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  • B_Maverick
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    • Dec 2002
    • 447

    #1

    Please help...I just don't understand this..

    At a conversion ratio of 1:1500 with a ctr of 1% (submitting galleries)...this means I need to have 150,000 page views in order to make one sale.

    150,000 page views = 60gb of bandwidth (1/3 of my monthly bandwidth)...so...roughly $25 in bandwidth per sale...

    plus...

    To get listed at the big sites...I have to pay for the privlege of giving them content to show thier surfers...

    plus...

    I must have a squeaky clean gallery with unbeleivably good content that I had to pay a fortune to get...

    plus...

    I can't do anything to entice their surfers to actually click on my sponsor links, in order to generate sales so I may make enough money to pay for the privlege of giving them free content for their surfers?

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  • NaughtyJenn
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    • Apr 2003
    • 7355

    #2
    i dont do other sites so i cant really comment but if i was you i would find something then with a better ratio, or revshare so ur hard earned signup atleast gives u $ over a period of time

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    • jimmyf
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      • Feb 2001
      • 12651

      #3
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      • Eve
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        • Dec 2002
        • 805

        #4
        Stop posting to the hun.
        I'm waiting for the Mr Fushion Fleshlight so I can wank my way back to the future!

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        • B_Maverick
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          • Dec 2002
          • 447

          #5
          Originally posted by jimmyf
          I don't really know what this means, but I'd be happy to hear your input if you have something to say.
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          • jimmyf
            OU812
            • Feb 2001
            • 12651

            #6
            Originally posted by Eve
            Stop posting to the hun.
            He/She summed it up for most TGP's

            And I might add they will send you 1k hits
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            • johnny_ricebone
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              • Nov 2003
              • 83

              #7
              Find a new industry to work in.

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              • B_Maverick
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                • Dec 2002
                • 447

                #8
                It simply does not make sense. How are ANY of you guys making money?
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                • jimmyf
                  OU812
                  • Feb 2001
                  • 12651

                  #9
                  Originally posted by B_Maverick


                  I don't really know what this means, but I'd be happy to hear your input if you have something to say.
                  I have not submitted 2 a TGP in over 3 years, that tell you any thing
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                  • B_Maverick
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                    • Dec 2002
                    • 447

                    #10
                    Originally posted by jimmyf


                    I have not submitted 2 a TGP in over 3 years, that tell you any thing
                    I just don't get it though...there cannot be thousands of fools going into debt every month building and submitting galleries. They MUST be making money doing it, or the industry would simply collapse because there would be no gallery submitters.
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                    • jimmyf
                      OU812
                      • Feb 2001
                      • 12651

                      #11
                      Originally posted by B_Maverick


                      I just don't get it though...there cannot be thousands of fools going into debt every month building and submitting galleries. They MUST be making money doing it, or the industry would simply collapse because there would be no gallery submitters.
                      the only TGP I made *good* money on was thehun and jjj.

                      And you better know what you are doing if thehun approves one of your galleries, B/W will eat your lunch. I know happened to me once. On his Thumbs Up though

                      I don't know if jjj's is still good or not
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                      • B_Maverick
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                        • Dec 2002
                        • 447

                        #12
                        I'm really starting to feel that the honest guy who is trying to make a decent living has no place in this industry.

                        I have never cheated...redirected...or any of that shit. I make nice galleries and follow the rules.

                        Yet...it seems like the rules are created to stop cheaters who seem to slip through the cracks anyhow.

                        The cheaters make sales by sending overwhelming traffic to sponsors...leaving no room for the honest guy to make a buck.
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                        • fun2cboys
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                          • Jul 2003
                          • 643

                          #13
                          Originally posted by B_Maverick
                          I'm really starting to feel that the honest guy who is trying to make a decent living has no place in this industry.

                          CLICK HERE DUDE MAYBE THIS IS MORE YOUR SPEED
                          Every exit is an entrance to somewhere else.....

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                          • B_Maverick
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                            • Dec 2002
                            • 447

                            #14
                            Thanks...been there...done that...spent 5 cents a click to make 3 cents a click.
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                            • Tofu
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                              • Jul 2003
                              • 5615

                              #15
                              A little birdie told me; this business founded by scammers and cheaters. I understand your rant, but you have to re-evaluate your buisness. Gallery building is a trial and error process, and you have to be willing to spend money as well.....I have much to say on this topic, but I'll save it for ICQ....
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                              • B_Maverick
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                                • Dec 2002
                                • 447

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Tofu-Adult.com
                                A little birdie told me; this business founded by scammers and cheaters. I understand your rant, but you have to re-evaluate your buisness. Gallery building is a trial and error process, and you have to be willing to spend money as well.....I have much to say on this topic, but I'll save it for ICQ....
                                I think you are right, tofu...but I refuse to be a cheater and scammer.

                                So I will issue a challenge to whomever has the integrity to take me up on it. Show me the ropes....how to make money in this business with honesty and integrity...and I will share my profits. I work long hours and want to get something back for my work. Help me and you will be rewarded.
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                                • fun2cboys
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                                  • Jul 2003
                                  • 643

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by B_Maverick
                                  Thanks...been there...done that...spent 5 cents a click to make 3 cents a click.

                                  Well I have never thought that TGP's were a good way to make money......not for me anyway.....

                                  I have always been a firm believer in the fact that a surfer will not pay for porn if they can find it for free..... I think that the surfers that actually pay for porn are those that are too lazy to look for it for free......

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                                  • wyldblyss
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                                    • Nov 2003
                                    • 5779

                                    #18
                                    Have you considered sleeping with people to get things for free?

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                                    • B_Maverick
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                                      • Dec 2002
                                      • 447

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by wyldblyss
                                      Have you considered sleeping with people to get things for free?
                                      No...but okay...

                                      I will offer my body to any young, beautiful female webmistresses in exchange for free advice. Any takers?

                                      Don't worry...I am incredibly handsome.
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                                      • brizzad
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                                        • Jul 2003
                                        • 11769

                                        #20
                                        here's a tip, try doing some SEO on your galleries, once they get listed in some good TGPs, google will pick them up, and if you played your cards right, they'll get daily SE hits. might not be that much, but if you submit enough galleries daily, it'll all add up

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                                        • B_Maverick
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Dec 2002
                                          • 447

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by brizzad
                                          here's a tip, try doing some SEO on your galleries, once they get listed in some good TGPs, google will pick them up, and if you played your cards right, they'll get daily SE hits. might not be that much, but if you submit enough galleries daily, it'll all add up
                                          I think I am already doing that...I get a lot of SE hits...but it doesn't seem like enough to matter.

                                          SE's confuse the shit out of me anyhow. It seems like you need a Phd in cloaking to make SE's work for you.
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                                          • aaron
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                                            • Mar 2003
                                            • 4452

                                            #22
                                            ive found that you really have to keep trying different things and see what works for you

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                                            • B_Maverick
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                                              • Dec 2002
                                              • 447

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by aaron
                                              ive found that you really have to keep trying different things and see what works for you
                                              I know...I just get really friggin frustrated when things don't work like I want them to. I've been struggling a long time and just can't seem to figure this game out. Every time I think I have the answers, I find out I am wrong.

                                              This morning for example, I found out that to submit and get listed with enough galleries to make the money I want...I will spend twice as much in bandwidth as I would actually make in sales.
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                                              • wyldblyss
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                                                • Nov 2003
                                                • 5779

                                                #24
                                                I sent you an ICQ message

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                                                • aaron
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                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                  • 4452

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by B_Maverick


                                                  I know...I just get really friggin frustrated when things don't work like I want them to. I've been struggling a long time and just can't seem to figure this game out. Every time I think I have the answers, I find out I am wrong.

                                                  This morning for example, I found out that to submit and get listed with enough galleries to make the money I want...I will spend twice as much in bandwidth as I would actually make in sales.
                                                  i hear you man. keep trying. i am.

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                                                  • Hue G. Pness
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                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                    • 1237

                                                    #26
                                                    the gravy train already left. too late.

                                                    it went that way ------- >
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                                                    • B_Maverick
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                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                      • 447

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Hue G. Pness
                                                      the gravy train already left. too late.

                                                      it went that way ------- >
                                                      Not looking for the gravy train. Just looking to make a profit from a lot of hard work.
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                                                      • B_Maverick
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                                                        • Dec 2002
                                                        • 447

                                                        #28
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                                                        Originally posted by wyldblyss
                                                        Have you considered sleeping with people to get things for free?
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                                                        quote:
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                                                        No...but okay...

                                                        I will offer my body to any young, beautiful female webmistresses in exchange for free advice. Any takers?

                                                        Don't worry...I am incredibly handsome.
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                                                        What...no takers?
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