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Originally posted by Webby
[B]PleasurePays:
Mmm.. I can't really be bothered wasting time on this.. but
(a) Are you saying the US did not invade?
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The "spark" the was used for the "invasion" was a CIA "tool" which involved them loading up a boat with "marked arms" to "proove" they were "evil" then bringing this boat into port with the world's press corp waiting. This is known to be a setup and has been acknowledged by the CIA officers involved.
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there was no "invasion". the US was helping South Vietnamese for many years and only gradually sent US toops and hardware after about 15 years. No stretch of logic can lead to the conslusion that there was an invasion of any kind.
[QUOTE](b) "I thought a Communist North Vietnam was trying to impose their beliefs on people."
So what someone else does, is the "excuse" why you should do the same??? Was this the "war against Communism" then? :-)[Q/QUOTE]
The war against Communism has nothing to do with the fact that the South wanted nothing to do with Commusim. They recieved support. They were not "invaded", nor did they have any political ideology forced on them as the North in fact did.
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(c) "does it annoy you that much that violence is dying down and Iraq now has it's own government?"
First.. what gives you the idea "violence is dying down" - based on a few days of "sovereignty"?? Sure hope it does die down, but am not holding my breath. There is a denial of the basic facts of life and the "cause" of the violence - "terrorists" may be one source - there are more....
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Violence IS dying down. It has been from the end of the conflict. That's a fact. The situation went from complete chaos and insanity, looting, wide spread revenge killings and terrorist bombings to the occasional terrorist act. Not much different from Berlin at the end of WWll where there was just as much resistence to allied occupation and by Nazi party members/supporters.
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The only time Iraq will have it's own government is the day elections are held there and *all* US forces removed along with "advisors" and all US "agencies - including the US Ambassador and his staff in the "biggest US Emabassy in the world". (Mmmm.. that's the next target for a bombing?)
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Ohhhh.... you mean to say that Iraq will never be a sovereign nation or have it's own government much in the same exact way that Germany does not have its own Government? South Korea? Japan? or anywhere else that a US base remained after WWll. Won't they be very pissed to know after 50 years that they are just slaves of an occupation?
uh.
ok.