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Originally posted by Webby
The similarities are not "exact", but the overall scenario is.
(a) Invaded a country for some "excuse" (that may be different today from yesterday). It is now clear the CIA lit the fuse that justified the Vietnam invasion "excuse" in the first place.
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The USA invaded Vietnam?
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(b) With nada clue about anything, hoping to "impose" beliefs on people.
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Really, I thought a Communist North Vietnam was trying to impose their beliefs on people.
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(d) When the time comes to "actually" leave - it will be the usual Vietnam departure - forced out, - by public opinion, body bags and the fact that there is simply no point in staying.
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does it annoy you that much that violence is dying down and Iraq now has it's own government?
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Mmm.. I can't really be bothered wasting time on this.. but
(a) Are you saying the US did not invade? The "spark" the was used for the "invasion" was a CIA "tool" which involved them loading up a boat with "marked arms" to "proove" they were "evil" then bringing this boat into port with the world's press corp waiting. This is known to be a setup and has been acknowledged by the CIA officers involved.
(b) "I thought a Communist North Vietnam was trying to impose their beliefs on people."
So what someone else does, is the "excuse" why you should do the same??? Was this the "war against Communism" then? :-)
(c) "does it annoy you that much that violence is dying down and Iraq now has it's own government?"
First.. what gives you the idea "violence is dying down" - based on a few days of "sovereignty"?? Sure hope it does die down, but am not holding my breath. There is a denial of the basic facts of life and the "cause" of the violence - "terrorists" may be one source - there are more....
On the contrary.. no, - if Iraq had it's own government, that is a good thing. The problem is it does not since the US "intervened" at the 11th hour and appointed it's own "contacts" to the irritation of many who had been negotiating this. What is there is another reincarnation of the "Iraqi Governing Council". The use of the word "sovereignty" in Iraq is a sham... another misuse of words and the reason other nations/Nato are not interested in embedding themselves in this scenario with aid and support in rebuilding.
The only time Iraq will have it's own government is the day elections are held there and *all* US forces removed along with "advisors" and all US "agencies - including the US Ambassador and his staff in the "biggest US Emabassy in the world". (Mmmm.. that's the next target for a bombing?)