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So how many atheists and/or non-Jesus believers celebrate Christmas?

11-30-2003, 07:18 PM

Without me being labeled a religious freak, it's pretty well known that Christmas is to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ, son of God. So how many non-believers are hypocrites and celebrate this anyway?

Christmas has become completely commercialized, but even the Santa Claus myth was created by St. Nick, yet another Christian founded thing. But when push comes to shove, Christmas is still meant to be about Jesus... and it boggles my mind how so many evolutionists/agnostics will say how God doesn't exist etc, yet turn around and celebrate Christmas and Easter.

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11-30-2003, 07:23 PM

mom is a believer
I am not

I dont celebrate Xmas as a religious holiday
I celebrate it as a FAMILY holiday

truly the best holiday for the family to get together
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11-30-2003, 07:24 PM

It's a fucking holiday, who gives a shit what the original intent is.

Not like you have to give Bibles as presents.
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11-30-2003, 07:25 PM

Like 99% of all of the "christian" holidays, it was a pagan feast holiday, and the missionalries attributed the day to something in Christianity. They did this so that the local people they were trying to convert would not "loose" a holiday.

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11-30-2003, 07:25 PM

Originally posted by Furious_Female
and it boggles my mind how so many evolutionists/agnostics will say how God doesn't exist etc, yet turn around and celebrate Christmas and Easter.

wait a fucking minute . . . . you are saying that if you believe in evolution you can't believe in God?
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11-30-2003, 07:27 PM

At the very heart it is hypocritical, yes... however society has turned christmas into everything but jesus's birthday.

It just dont count no more =)

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11-30-2003, 07:28 PM

Originally posted by bdjuf
mom is a believer
I am not

I dont celebrate Xmas as a religious holiday
I celebrate it as a FAMILY holiday

truly the best holiday for the family to get together

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11-30-2003, 07:30 PM

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11-30-2003, 07:31 PM

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11-30-2003, 07:31 PM

When I look in the scanner I see many life times celebrating xmas. I will continue to do so.

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11-30-2003, 07:33 PM

I don't celebrate Christmas, I endure it.

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11-30-2003, 07:33 PM

Read Christmas' pagan origins

I celebrate Christmas by exchanging gifts with my family and enjoying the time being with them. Thank goodness it only comes once a year
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11-30-2003, 07:34 PM

Originally posted by baddog

wait a fucking minute . . . . you are saying that if you believe in evolution you can't believe in God?

No not at all. I believe in evolution and I also believe in God or a superior being myself.

But many evolutionists believe in that solely like many creationists believe in only God.

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11-30-2003, 07:35 PM

Originally posted by Furious_Male
When I look in the scanner I see many life times celebrating xmas. I will continue to do so.

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11-30-2003, 07:37 PM

I do not believe in god
yet I believe in religion

without religion, what would happen to our society?
religion, to me, is a way of life, a guide, a path of "right" and "good"

I am very greatful religion exists in society, I praise it!

one of my biggest morals in life is friendship and family
christmas brings both of those closer to me, I am greatful for it

in conclusion
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but CHRISTMAS ROCKS!
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11-30-2003, 07:39 PM

I am wiccan so christmas really isn't a part of my belief system. However, it's fun for the kids and so I get them stuff for christmas and all that.

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11-30-2003, 07:40 PM

christmas is an end of year sales push, nothing more, nothing less

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11-30-2003, 07:45 PM

I prefer to celebrate Festivus

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11-30-2003, 07:49 PM

Baptism anyone?

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11-30-2003, 07:51 PM

Originally posted by bdjuf
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I dont celebrate Xmas as a religious holiday
I celebrate it as a FAMILY holiday

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most people I know that celebrate it, do it for the same reasons, not a religious one...

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11-30-2003, 07:54 PM

Originally posted by cluck

Baptism anyone?

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11-30-2003, 07:58 PM

I believe in god on good days, but I despise organized religion
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11-30-2003, 08:02 PM

Originally posted by MetaformX
I believe in god on good days, but I despise organized religion

Yeah I can't say I agree with any organized religion 100%, so I like to form my own beliefs with bits and pieces from each and from what evolution dictates

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11-30-2003, 08:06 PM

I think if god gave a crap about what we think about him he'd just tell us himself, not test us to see if we win the heaven lotto.

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11-30-2003, 08:08 PM

Originally posted by Jamdin
Read Christmas' pagan origins

I celebrate Christmas by exchanging gifts with my family and enjoying the time being with them. Thank goodness it only comes once a year

Good post, its amazing how many brainwashed idiots celebrate Christmas like its some holy day. Same thing with Easter Sunday its the Pagan celebration of Fertility for the God of Fertility "Ester" She symbols of fertility "Eggs and Rabbits".

Half the world is brainwashed with this bullshit from some pope in Roman ages changing the rules for the pagans its a joke.

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11-30-2003, 08:12 PM

Religion is a disease
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11-30-2003, 08:14 PM

Im deistic. (mostly)

I celebrate the holiday season as a time of the year that I can be with my friends and family.

they have placed the birth of jesus more in march, why do yall insist on having it in december? It was taken from the pagan holiday Yule.
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11-30-2003, 08:14 PM

your all idiots ;-))))))) everyone is anti god because tv makes you think thats cool.......but you cant deny god exists, how did you get here? how did the world come to be? baaaaaaaa
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11-30-2003, 08:21 PM

Originally posted by Serge_0prano
your all idiots ;-))))))) everyone is anti god because tv makes you think thats cool.......but you cant deny god exists, how did you get here? how did the world come to be? baaaaaaaa

I believe in God or a higher being. I believe in evolution too... I really don't care what TV or anyone says. I'm not into being trendy

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11-30-2003, 08:22 PM

To some, its more of a cultural celebration.

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11-30-2003, 08:30 PM

I celebrate holloween, but I dont worship the great pumpkin.

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11-30-2003, 08:33 PM

I prefer to celebrate Festivus

Happy Festivus everyone!

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11-30-2003, 08:38 PM

Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
I celebrate holloween, but I dont worship the great pumpkin.

Wasn't Halloween originally to scare away the "evil spirits"?

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11-30-2003, 08:44 PM

Originally posted by Furious_Female

I believe in God or a higher being. I believe in evolution too... I really don't care what TV or anyone says. I'm not into being trendy

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11-30-2003, 08:47 PM

Originally posted by Furious_Female
...it boggles my mind how so many evolutionists/agnostics will say how God doesn't exist etc, yet turn around and celebrate Christmas and Easter.

You are being silly. Just because I don't believe in your imaginary friend doesn't mean I don't enjoy being with my extended family a couple of times a year.

As for Serge's assertion that a Creator must exist because the world exists... well the non-sensical circular logic speaks for itself. By the same logic then there must be some supreme being who created our God. God+1? And then a God+2 who created our God's God...
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11-30-2003, 08:53 PM

I'm Catholic, but not very practicing. I haven't been to a church in years but I do believe in a higher power. I do like xmas though!

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11-30-2003, 09:02 PM

people celebrate valentines day and it was made up by the card companies wasn't it?

also just because you don't believe in god the way christians do , doesnt mean you can't learn about their beliefs and take something they celebrated and celebrate it in your own way.

am i making sense?

people started giving each other gifts to honor the birth of jesus and people that came bearing gifts right? ok so why can i say since so many people are honoring that hell, i just think of it as a good day to make sure im sharing and doing something nice for people. it feels good to have a specific day to relax and where everyone can be happy and nice every single year.
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11-30-2003, 09:04 PM

I celebrate Christmas and Easter because my great great grandparents were religious. My great grandparents were not but continued celebrating... and so on.

Now we just do it like every other athiest. Presents, eating food and getting together with family.

Christmas to me is a gathering of family and passing of gifts that just happens to be on Dec. 25th.

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11-30-2003, 09:21 PM

We human beings have incredible imaginations. People will believe just about anything. And the more people around us who tell us something is true the more likely we are to believe it, even if there are NO real facts or data to back it up.

For example 67% of people in a recent poll believe that Bigfoot exists and is either a rare ape, prehistoric man, or the missing link. Only 20% see through the bullshit and believe Bigfoot is a myth.

94% believe in ESP.

24% believe we will be reincarnated when we die, but 36% disagree and believe we will be transported instead to "another dimension" (not heaven or hell, but someplace else).

(Source: http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa083099.htm )

The moral of the story: people will believe ANYTHING, even with no evidence whatsoever. We are natural born suckers, it's in our DNA, that's how we were so audacious as to think we could fly, or go to the moon.

I wouldn't give a damn about my fellow citizens' belief in God except for all the fucking wars it causes.

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11-30-2003, 09:37 PM

Originally posted by Furious_Female
Without me being labeled a religious freak, it's pretty well known that Christmas is to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ, son of God.

Wait. WHAT ?

Christmas is a pagan holiday. It falls in line with the winter solstice, when the days begin getting longer, hence, the celebration.

It's origin has nothing to do with the birth of the man Jesus. Jesus was born about the time the crops were coming in, and since their weather patterns are much the same as ours... that would make it .. probably September. Not December, the middle of winter.

Christians "gave" pagans the holiday to try to help them make the change to christianity easier. The star as well as the lights on the tree are from the pagans. The star is a pagan symbol and the lights represent the spirits. The tree represents the earth based religion.

Yea. We celebrate Christmas, I like candy and food.

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11-30-2003, 09:54 PM

are christians hypocrites for celebrating christmas when originally it was a pagan celebration?

It's a stupid question, much like yours.

Christmas has almost nothing to do with christ these days, primarily it's about consumerism but most importantly it's about family. There is nothing hypocritical in an atheist spending the pagan festive season with their family and celebrating the ability to gather together and enjoy each other's company, not some bible fairytale.
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11-30-2003, 09:56 PM

christmas is a federal holliday to honor the birth of the historical figure jesus. Whether you belive hes the son of god, or just a philosopher that had good ideas (love your neighbor and so forth).

The extreme left aclu has a hissy fit with any display of christmas that has to do with the birth of this historical figure.

If they have such a problem with it, why dont they work to get christmas to stop being a federal holliday. Im sure the kids will just love it when you tell them theres no christmas next year.

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11-30-2003, 10:15 PM

Originally posted by Jamdin
Read Christmas' pagan origins

Nice, I hadn't seen that.

Originally posted by bhutocracy
are christians hypocrites for celebrating christmas when originally it was a pagan celebration?

Not in my opinion. They adopted it, and for all of it's commercialization, that's still the root of what it stands for in their eyes.

Originally posted by CoolE
I wouldn't give a damn about my fellow citizens' belief in God except for all the fucking wars it causes.

I agree. Why are they worried about my belief system?

Here's a question:
Does it make you an Athiest if you believe in god(s) and goddesses instead of a single god? Hmm ?

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11-30-2003, 10:24 PM

Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic

Not in my opinion. They adopted it, and for all of it's commercialization, that's still the root of what it stands for in their eyes.

of course not.. it was a stupid question to show how shallow the original question was.

Here's a question:
Does it make you an Athiest if you believe in god(s) and goddesses instead of a single god? Hmm ?

no. no it definately does not. it makes you a polytheist.

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11-30-2003, 10:27 PM

Originally posted by bhutocracy
no. no it definately does not. it makes you a polytheist.

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11-30-2003, 10:32 PM

Originally posted by Furious_Female
Without me being labeled a religious freak, it's pretty well known that Christmas is to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ, son of God. So how many non-believers are hypocrites and celebrate this anyway?

Christmas has become completely commercialized, but even the Santa Claus myth was created by St. Nick, yet another Christian founded thing. But when push comes to shove, Christmas is still meant to be about Jesus... and it boggles my mind how so many evolutionists/agnostics will say how God doesn't exist etc, yet turn around and celebrate Christmas and Easter.

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11-30-2003, 11:30 PM

Originally posted by SleazyDream

goto church and preach your bullshitwith the rest of your 'i know best' bullshit friends.

What are you talking about hon? I didn't state what my beliefs are any further than I believe in God AND evolution.

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Main Entry: Christ·mas
Pronunciation: 'kris-m&s
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Usage: often attributive
Etymology: Middle English Christemasse, from Old English Cristes mæsse, literally, Christ's mass
Date: before 12th century
1 : a Christian feast on December 25 or among some Eastern Orthodox on January 7 that commemorates the birth of Christ and is usually observed as a legal holiday
2 : CHRISTMASTIDE
- Christ·mas·sy or Christ·masy /-m&-sE/ adjective

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11-30-2003, 11:33 PM

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11-30-2003, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by Furious_Female
Christmas is still meant to be about Jesus...

No it Isnt, do deeper research.
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11-30-2003, 11:55 PM

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What are you talking about hon?

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