Jettis - No VISA for EU clients

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Petr
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2002
    • 502

    #1

    Jettis - No VISA for EU clients

    Important Notice for Jettis EU Clients
    November 25, 2003
    Dear Jettis EU Client,

    As we are sure you are aware, we have witnessed significant changes in the High Risk processing Industry over the past year, but none quite as dramatic as the past six months. Due to the increased scrutiny of this industry by the credit card associations, our EU bank just notified us that it has decided to close this portion of their portfolio as of Friday, November 28, 2003. As a result, we will no longer be able to process your Visa EU transactions after that date. For clarification purposes, Jettis' accounts were in good standing. The bank notified us that their decision to no longer support the processing activities of adult IPSP's was widespread and was not aimed solely at Jettis. It is important to note that this notice has no effect whatsoever on Jettis clients based in the US.

    Obviously, this short notice has not left much time to make preparations for Visa processing for our EU clients. We will still continue to process your MasterCard, Discover and ACH transactions without any interruption. We sincerely regret that we were unable to give you greater notice and we realize that this short notice can create a hardship. While we are searching for alternative EU solutions for our clients, we are unable to ensure that we will have them in place by the date referenced above. If you have questions about these changes, we encourage you to contact our Client Services department by telephone at 818-597-4705 or via email at [email protected].

    Sincerely,

    Team Jettis
  • BRISK
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Feb 2003
    • 12240

    #2
    wow
    I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
    I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

    Comment

    • Darkystar
      Confirmed User
      • Jan 2002
      • 273

      #3
      damn...did Jettis use the same EU bank as CCBILL does now?

      Comment

      • Theo
        HAL 9000
        • May 2001
        • 34515

        #4
        well now this are big news

        Comment

        • angelsofporn
          Confirmed User
          • Mar 2002
          • 3218

          #5
          what bank is it

          Comment

          • doober
            Confirmed User
            • Jul 2003
            • 6984

            #6
            is this because jettis is in California and is US based corp?
            Does ccbill & ibill have actual offices in the EU?

            Comment

            • Petr
              Confirmed User
              • Mar 2002
              • 502

              #7
              Originally posted by doober
              is this because jettis is in California and is US based corp?
              Does ccbill & ibill have actual offices in the EU?
              AFAIK Jettis has/had a company in UK

              Comment

              • BRISK
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Feb 2003
                • 12240

                #8
                Hopefully they're not just starting their search for an alternate bank now. I would have thought they would have a backup (assuming one was available) waiting and available to take over should things go down the shitter with their current bank.
                I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
                I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

                Comment

                • Theo
                  HAL 9000
                  • May 2001
                  • 34515

                  #9
                  let's hope they wont pick the same bank with porncash

                  Comment

                  • Eman - PG
                    PG Co-Boss
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 524

                    #10
                    wow so who's left? Ibill, CCBill and Verotel?

                    Comment

                    • polish_aristocrat
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 40377

                      #11
                      Is it the end od the world?
                      I don't use ICQ anymore.

                      Comment

                      • directfiesta
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 30210

                        #12
                        Bad news.

                        But a simple conclusion is this:

                        US originating IPS , even if they opened a EU corp. will eventually loose their processing in Europe., even for EU clients.

                        They will be fine to process US corp in the US.

                        EU clients will have to find/go with real EU processor.
                        I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                        But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

                        Comment

                        • Daymare
                          Confirmed User
                          • Feb 2002
                          • 2674

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Eman - PG
                          wow so who's left? Ibill, CCBill and Verotel?
                          and probilling

                          Comment

                          • Bansheelinks
                            Confirmed User
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 6023

                            #14
                            Daymare quote:
                            --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                            Originally posted by Eman - PG
                            wow so who's left? Ibill, CCBill and Verotel?
                            --------------------------------------------------------------------------------



                            and probilling


                            *********************

                            LOL, and you say Probilling? Get real. If Jettis has their VISA Europe privileges stripped away, what do you think will happen to Probilling in the end?

                            They will be nuked like all the others, or globilled, or whatever you want to call it.

                            Comment

                            • abdab_1
                              Confirmed User
                              • May 2003
                              • 425

                              #15
                              Folks I keep telling you all there is a UK CC Processor. Less than 10% for Processing :-)

                              They are happy to work with adult, the only reason I dont post their name is that I am working on a referal basis :-)

                              With regard to the above post we can (Nochex) offer you a solution for the UK card holders.

                              Get in touch, for CC Processing [email protected]

                              for non CC Processing [email protected]

                              I hope to hear from you :-)
                              <p><a href="http://support.nochex.com/adult/" target="_blank">
                              <img height="60" src="http://support.nochex.com/web/gfx/adult_anim_cards.gif"width="120
                              " border="0"></a></p>
                              Convert All Your Traffic!

                              Comment

                              • Madball
                                Confirmed User
                                • May 2002
                                • 748

                                #16
                                This is one hell of a big annoucement.

                                Remains to be seen if CCBILL and IBILL EU are hit by this as well.
                                <a href="http://www.homepageofthedead.com"><img src="http://board.gofuckyourself.com/images/globill_88x31.gif"></a>

                                Comment

                                • doober
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jul 2003
                                  • 6984

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by abdab_1
                                  Folks I keep telling you all there is a UK CC Processor. Less than 10% for Processing :-)

                                  They are happy to work with adult, the only reason I dont post their name is that I am working on a referal basis :-)

                                  With regard to the above post we can (Nochex) offer you a solution for the UK card holders.

                                  Get in touch, for CC Processing [email protected]

                                  for non CC Processing [email protected]

                                  I hope to hear from you :-)

                                  hmmm so we should contact you for a solid processor using your hotmail addy....sounds very tempting...

                                  Comment

                                  • abdab_1
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • May 2003
                                    • 425

                                    #18
                                    No I get your point thing is I worlk for Nochex Mon Fri

                                    so what I try and do on the weekend and evenings is resell billing solutions, after all its all I know about in this adult world.

                                    The company I promote on an evening have the added bonus of being able to offer Nochex within their product.

                                    I have to use my hotmail account as I dont want this mail coming to my work account.
                                    <p><a href="http://support.nochex.com/adult/" target="_blank">
                                    <img height="60" src="http://support.nochex.com/web/gfx/adult_anim_cards.gif"width="120
                                    " border="0"></a></p>
                                    Convert All Your Traffic!

                                    Comment

                                    • doober
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jul 2003
                                      • 6984

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by abdab_1
                                      No I get your point thing is I worlk for Nochex Mon Fri

                                      so what I try and do on the weekend and evenings is resell billing solutions, after all its all I know about in this adult world.

                                      The company I promote on an evening have the added bonus of being able to offer Nochex within their product.

                                      I have to use my hotmail account as I dont want this mail coming to my work account.
                                      post the name and if its real Im positive people would still signup under you for telling them about it or else you loose all credibility

                                      Comment

                                      • Yakuza
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Sep 2003
                                        • 275

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by doober


                                        post the name and if its real Im positive people would still signup under you for telling them about it or else you loose all credibility

                                        actually.. it's good idea..

                                        Comment

                                        • Jizar II
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • May 2001
                                          • 1425

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Yakuza


                                          actually.. it's good idea..
                                          yep

                                          Comment

                                          • abdab_1
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • May 2003
                                            • 425

                                            #22
                                            Thanks

                                            But at the moment I would rather loose the credibility. I think there is enough people who post here who know me well enough to trust me.

                                            I cant post on this board from home as my ISP is blocked so I have to do it cloak and dagger style.

                                            Dont get me wrong I want every possible lead I can get, by the current issue surrounding processors means my contacts are well sort after.

                                            I have had three mails today from this post, if I post the company name I am not going to get any business and that doober is a fact.

                                            :-)
                                            <p><a href="http://support.nochex.com/adult/" target="_blank">
                                            <img height="60" src="http://support.nochex.com/web/gfx/adult_anim_cards.gif"width="120
                                            " border="0"></a></p>
                                            Convert All Your Traffic!

                                            Comment

                                            • Yakuza
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Sep 2003
                                              • 275

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by abdab_1
                                              Thanks

                                              But at the moment I would rather loose the credibility. I think there is enough people who post here who know me well enough to trust me.

                                              I cant post on this board from home as my ISP is blocked so I have to do it cloak and dagger style.

                                              Dont get me wrong I want every possible lead I can get, by the current issue surrounding processors means my contacts are well sort after.

                                              I have had three mails today from this post, if I post the company name I am not going to get any business and that doober is a fact.

                                              :-)
                                              how can I trust u if ur behaviour is absurd ;-(

                                              Comment

                                              • Kimmykim
                                                bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                • Jun 2001
                                                • 16015

                                                #24
                                                So classy to spam in someone else's announcement thread.

                                                Comment

                                                • Paul Markham
                                                  Too old to care
                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                  • 52942

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by doober



                                                  hmmm so we should contact you for a solid processor using your hotmail addy....sounds very tempting...
                                                  Paul is genuine, he has said he is doing this on a referal basis.



                                                  Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500.
                                                  PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

                                                  Comment

                                                  • Paul Markham
                                                    Too old to care
                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                    • 52942

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                                    So classy to spam in someone else's announcement thread.
                                                    He was trying to offer an alternative to not having a CC processor. The original post was an anouncement, Paul was trying to help.



                                                    Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500.
                                                    PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

                                                    Comment

                                                    • doober
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                      • 6984

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by charly
                                                      Paul is genuine, he has said he is doing this on a referal basis.
                                                      Originally posted by doober


                                                      post the name and if its real Im positive people would still signup under you for telling them about it or else you loose all credibility


                                                      Youy may know him, but do I know him?
                                                      Do i know you?
                                                      Who am i trusting here and what is the basis of that trust?


                                                      My above statement still stands and gurantee he will loose 0 referrals if he does just that.

                                                      Comment

                                                      • doober
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                        • 6984

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by charly
                                                        He was trying to offer an alternative to not having a CC processor. The original post was an anouncement, Paul was trying to help.
                                                        Originally posted by abdab_1
                                                        Folks I keep telling you all there is a UK CC Processor. Less than 10% for Processing :-)

                                                        They are happy to work with adult, the only reason I dont post their name is that I am working on a referal basis :-)

                                                        Get in touch, for CC Processing [email protected]

                                                        Comment

                                                        • Thee Johnclave
                                                          The Billz Collectaz
                                                          • Nov 2001
                                                          • 632

                                                          #29
                                                          We've never been one to keep all our eggs in one basket and have been, and continue, to work on an alternate option for our EU clients.

                                                          The lack of notice of this event was unfortunate and unexpected as our accounts were in good standing with our EU bank, however we are exhausting all resources to provide another option for our EU clients, ASAP, and will be in communication on the options available moving forward.


                                                          John
                                                          Jettis, Inc.



                                                          Seeking large traffic deals.

                                                          john at pptme dot com

                                                          Comment

                                                          • DatingGold
                                                            $6 PER EMAIL JOiN
                                                            • Feb 2003
                                                            • 13185

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Petr
                                                            Important Notice for Jettis EU Clients
                                                            November 25, 2003
                                                            Dear Jettis EU Client,

                                                            As we are sure you are aware, we have witnessed significant changes in the High Risk processing Industry over the past year, but none quite as dramatic as the past six months. Due to the increased scrutiny of this industry by the credit card associations, our EU bank just notified us that it has decided to close this portion of their portfolio as of Friday, November 28, 2003. As a result, we will no longer be able to process your Visa EU transactions after that date. For clarification purposes, Jettis' accounts were in good standing. The bank notified us that their decision to no longer support the processing activities of adult IPSP's was widespread and was not aimed solely at Jettis. It is important to note that this notice has no effect whatsoever on Jettis clients based in the US.

                                                            Obviously, this short notice has not left much time to make preparations for Visa processing for our EU clients. We will still continue to process your MasterCard, Discover and ACH transactions without any interruption. We sincerely regret that we were unable to give you greater notice and we realize that this short notice can create a hardship. While we are searching for alternative EU solutions for our clients, we are unable to ensure that we will have them in place by the date referenced above. If you have questions about these changes, we encourage you to contact our Client Services department by telephone at 818-597-4705 or via email at [email protected].

                                                            Sincerely,

                                                            Team Jettis
                                                            Happy Thanksgiving..
                                                            9 Years of SOLID payouts and conversions!



                                                            ADULT DATING - $100 PPS

                                                            LIVE CAMS - $214 PPS

                                                            WWW.DATINGGOLD.COM

                                                            ICQ: 27442303

                                                            Comment

                                                            • makefuckingmoney
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                              • 3277

                                                              #31
                                                              Dont blame Jettis..

                                                              I dont think I have seen too many outfits that are run better than that one!

                                                              I know.. shit one time I got into their office..of course..they threw me out shortly thereafter!

                                                              Comment

                                                              • HunkyLuke
                                                                Virgin by request ;)
                                                                • Feb 2002
                                                                • 1924

                                                                #32
                                                                It would be REALLY REALLY nice if CCBill and IBill posted a "don't worry we are still here for our EU clients" announcement in this thread!!!!


                                                                cheers,

                                                                Luke

                                                                Comment

                                                                • Petr
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                                  • 502

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                                                  So classy to spam in someone else's announcement thread.
                                                                  just for the record - I don't work for Jettis...

                                                                  Comment

                                                                  • AngEl 3
                                                                    Registered User
                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                    • 47

                                                                    #34
                                                                    jettis are very good company pity they have this problem.

                                                                    the one way out is to use alternative cc processor for eu visa or to re-register account for us company.

                                                                    i hope soon they'll found a way out..

                                                                    anyway VISA sucks - they fuck adult biz so fucking hard that even best porn star can't do such a fucking around
                                                                    Last edited by AngEl 3; 11-26-2003, 01:36 PM.
                                                                    SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

                                                                    Comment

                                                                    • Kimmykim
                                                                      bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                      • 16015

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Petr


                                                                      just for the record - I don't work for Jettis...
                                                                      LOL, I didnt mean you, you should know that.

                                                                      And I dont particularly think that CCBill or IBill would be so tacky as to spam themselves in a thread about issues Jettis is having, chilihost.

                                                                      Comment

                                                                      • Cirrus
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Feb 2002
                                                                        • 1145

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Yakuza


                                                                        how can I trust u if ur behaviour is absurd ;-(
                                                                        Paul is real, no problem here....
                                                                        Reyko.com - exclusive glamour production icq:35570298

                                                                        Comment

                                                                        • Kimmykim
                                                                          bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                                          • 16015

                                                                          #37
                                                                          At the end of the day I would figure that Jettis will find a way to take care of their clients as quickly as possible. After all if the clients don't make any money, nor do they.

                                                                          Comment

                                                                          • Groove
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Jan 2003
                                                                            • 3852

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Bump.

                                                                            Comment

                                                                            • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                              best designer on GFY
                                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                                              • 30307

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Happy Holidays!!!

                                                                              Comment

                                                                              • strobi
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Nov 2002
                                                                                • 7383

                                                                                #40
                                                                                woooww!!

                                                                                Comment

                                                                                • mryellow
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                                  • 934

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  We were in the middle of applying for EU based merchant
                                                                                  accounts a few months ago when Netbilling, oxbill, glo-bill and a
                                                                                  few others had trouble with accounts. ECB was setting us up
                                                                                  with a major bank which then dropped their "high risk" clients.
                                                                                  This seems to be the same thing that's happening to CCBillEU
                                                                                  (can't find the email just now) and PSWBilling with holdbacks.

                                                                                  I said at the time that if this kind of thing carries on it could be a
                                                                                  worry for non-US webmasters as the only way forward would be
                                                                                  to incorporate in the US and report to the IRS and US gov.

                                                                                  It's a conspiricy threoy still at this time but it could be that this is
                                                                                  part of a larger plan to force all webmasters to process in the US
                                                                                  which then makes them an easy target for the DOJ.

                                                                                  -Ben
                                                                                  Cyberwurx Hosting
                                                                                  After trying 5 different hosts, I found the best.
                                                                                  Since 1997 I've had 2 hours of downtime.
                                                                                  Fast support, great techs, no hype, no gimmicks.

                                                                                  <- I in no way endorse whatever just got stuck on the left of my post.

                                                                                  Comment

                                                                                  • Groove
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Jan 2003
                                                                                    • 3852

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by mryellow
                                                                                    We were in the middle of applying for EU based merchant
                                                                                    accounts a few months ago when Netbilling, oxbill, glo-bill and a
                                                                                    few others had trouble with accounts. ECB was setting us up
                                                                                    with a major bank which then dropped their "high risk" clients.
                                                                                    This seems to be the same thing that's happening to CCBillEU
                                                                                    (can't find the email just now) and PSWBilling with holdbacks.
                                                                                    What's happening with CCBillEU?

                                                                                    Comment

                                                                                    • VirtuMike
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • May 2002
                                                                                      • 2483

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Yeah this is pretty big. I hope this isn't the beginning of a bigger problem.
                                                                                      Host it in AMSTERDAM at EUROTIVITY! - We also offer BACKUP SERVICES!

                                                                                      XYZZY4L

                                                                                      Comment

                                                                                      • mryellow
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • May 2001
                                                                                        • 934

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Sorry it was a recent iBill email which I got confused.

                                                                                        -Ben


                                                                                        October 31, 2003





                                                                                        Dear Client,



                                                                                        We notified you in a previous notice dated October 20, 2003 that our European processor and acquiring bank held our credit card reserves resulting in a suspension of your reserve payouts scheduled for October 21. As communicated in that correspondence, we have worked with the processor and bank to release the held funds for payout. These suspended reserve funds represent reserves held in March 2003 for February 2003 transactions.



                                                                                        We're pleased to notify you that we were successful in securing the release of the reserve funds and you will receive your suspended reserve payment on your next scheduled payout of November 5, 2003.



                                                                                        Please remember that all reserve payouts will be made to eligible clients unless held by our processor or acquiring bank. Please feel free to contact us with any questions you have at [email protected] or 954.363.4949.

                                                                                        Thank you for your business.





                                                                                        iBill
                                                                                        Cyberwurx Hosting
                                                                                        After trying 5 different hosts, I found the best.
                                                                                        Since 1997 I've had 2 hours of downtime.
                                                                                        Fast support, great techs, no hype, no gimmicks.

                                                                                        <- I in no way endorse whatever just got stuck on the left of my post.

                                                                                        Comment

                                                                                        • X37375787

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          thank God for Jesus Dialer.

                                                                                          Comment

                                                                                          • Groove
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Jan 2003
                                                                                            • 3852

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by mryellow
                                                                                            Sorry it was a recent iBill email which I got confused.

                                                                                            -Ben


                                                                                            Do you know if IBill ever offered an explanation regarding
                                                                                            why the funds were frozen by their bank?

                                                                                            Comment

                                                                                            • Shoplifter
                                                                                              Richest man in Babylon
                                                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                                                              • 5882

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Groove


                                                                                              Do you know if IBill ever offered an explanation regarding
                                                                                              why the funds were frozen by their bank?

                                                                                              The Ibill holdback thing is nothing new. I heard it is because their previous bank is withholding their funds, not their current bank.

                                                                                              Would be nice to have some reassuring posts from Ibill nonetheless.
                                                                                              I Like Blondes

                                                                                              Comment

                                                                                              • directfiesta
                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                                                • 30210

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by mryellow
                                                                                                We were in the middle of applying for EU based merchant
                                                                                                accounts a few months ago when Netbilling, oxbill, glo-bill and a
                                                                                                few others had trouble with accounts. ECB was setting us up
                                                                                                with a major bank which then dropped their "high risk" clients.
                                                                                                This seems to be the same thing that's happening to CCBillEU
                                                                                                (can't find the email just now) and PSWBilling with holdbacks.

                                                                                                I said at the time that if this kind of thing carries on it could be a
                                                                                                worry for non-US webmasters as the only way forward would be
                                                                                                to incorporate in the US and report to the IRS and US gov.

                                                                                                It's a conspiricy threoy still at this time but it could be that this is
                                                                                                part of a larger plan to force all webmasters to process in the US
                                                                                                which then makes them an easy target for the DOJ.

                                                                                                -Ben
                                                                                                Pretty good summary of the big picture:

                                                                                                Like sheep dogs that keep the pact together ... ready for slaughter.
                                                                                                I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                                                But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

                                                                                                Comment

                                                                                                • NETbilling
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                                  • 8599

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by mryellow
                                                                                                  We were in the middle of applying for EU based merchant
                                                                                                  accounts a few months ago when Netbilling, oxbill, glo-bill and a
                                                                                                  few others had trouble with accounts. ECB was setting us up
                                                                                                  with a major bank which then dropped their "high risk" clients.
                                                                                                  This seems to be the same thing that's happening to CCBillEU
                                                                                                  (can't find the email just now) and PSWBilling with holdbacks.

                                                                                                  I said at the time that if this kind of thing carries on it could be a
                                                                                                  worry for non-US webmasters as the only way forward would be
                                                                                                  to incorporate in the US and report to the IRS and US gov.

                                                                                                  It's a conspiricy threoy still at this time but it could be that this is
                                                                                                  part of a larger plan to force all webmasters to process in the US
                                                                                                  which then makes them an easy target for the DOJ.

                                                                                                  -Ben

                                                                                                  Ben,

                                                                                                  We have some nice solutions now that you may be interested in.
                                                                                                  Please contact our sales department or myself directly.

                                                                                                  Thanks, Mitch


                                                                                                  Mitch Farber
                                                                                                  CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                                                                                                  Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
                                                                                                  Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

                                                                                                  Comment

                                                                                                  • quiet
                                                                                                    we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                                                                                    • Sep 2001
                                                                                                    • 25115

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    damn. getting more and more ugly for EU...
                                                                                                    we'll miss you our friend. RIP

                                                                                                    Comment

                                                                                                    Working...