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  • johnny_ricebone
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    • Nov 2003
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    #1

    Do you believe in the death penalty?

    I know this is like beating a dead horse but given the circumstances (Muhammad/Malvo). The morning show that I listen to this morning brought the point that it would be worse for Muhammad to rot in jail the rest of his life instead of sending him to his maker. So what do you think?
  • xdcdave
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    • Feb 2003
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    #2
    death penalty gives people the peace of mind that he is never getting back out into society. for that, i'm all for it.

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    • keyDet79
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      #3
      Death is not really a punishment.. Would you care if you're dead? Maybe only during the time you wait for it.

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      • johnny_ricebone
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        • Nov 2003
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        #4
        Someone else said, "How dare he turn me into a murderer. Now we have to deal with this on our conscious."

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        • Spunky
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          #5
          I wish our country had the balls to have the death penalty.

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          • Candice
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            • Oct 2003
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            #6
            I'm all for the death penalty, I just wish more people would think about that when they are murdering other human beings. Besides, I'm from Texas, of course I support it!!!

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            • cluck
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              #7
              I'm a hardcore lefty and I'm all for street justice, death included
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              • rooster
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                • Jan 2003
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                #8
                I agree with it, but im sure a bunch of europeans will chime in and say otherwise.

                I found a article http://washingtontimes.com/world/200...0833-1781r.htm

                Pretty much what I say alot, the european mindset is dangerous imo and sad that our neighbors to the north want to be like that.
                Last edited by rooster; 11-25-2003, 05:40 AM.
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                • SlutFinder
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                  #9
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                  • Goatse
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                    • Sep 2003
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                    #10
                    I'm all for it. In fact, I wish we could put people to death for merely being blithering idiots.

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                    • chodadog
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                      • Apr 2002
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                      #11
                      Take a look at someone like Richard Ramirez. Oh yes, i am all for the death penalty.
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                      • kmanrox
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                        • Oct 2001
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by xdcdave
                        death penalty gives people the peace of mind that he is never getting back out into society. for that, i'm all for it.
                        i agree, wholeheartedly =)
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                        • johnny_ricebone
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                          • Nov 2003
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                          #13
                          So no one believes that it would be worse for this guy to get gang banged in the clink for the rest of his life?

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                          • Antic
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                            • Jun 2002
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                            #14
                            When you can prove that someone is guilty to 100%, yes.
                            If its only 99.9%, no.

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                            • myjah
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                              • Sep 2003
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                              #15
                              definitely believe in it. i don't want to have to pay to feed, clothe, shelter, and provide medical attention to a murderer.
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                              • SR
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                                #16
                                No.

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                                • johnny_ricebone
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by SR
                                  No.
                                  So you wouldn't put Malvo or Muhammad to death for what they did? What if it was onr of your loved ones that were a victim?

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                                  • Goatse
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by johnny_ricebone
                                    So no one believes that it would be worse for this guy to get gang banged in the clink for the rest of his life?
                                    Who knows, maybe he would enjoy it.

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                                    • Lane
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                                      • Apr 2001
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by johnny_ricebone


                                      So you wouldn't put Malvo or Muhammad to death for what they did? What if it was onr of your loved ones that were a victim?
                                      revenge vs. punishment

                                      apples and oranges

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                                      • Lane
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                                        #20
                                        have you seen "life of david gale"?

                                        even if one innocent person ever was executed with this justice system, it is an unacceptable tolerance for the death penalty to exist. try not to be so narrowminded and don't look at this situation on a case by case basis.

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                                        • ThunderBalls
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by rooster
                                          I agree with it, but im sure a bunch of europeans will chime in and say otherwise.

                                          I found a article http://washingtontimes.com/world/200...0833-1781r.htm

                                          Pretty much what I say alot, the european mindset is dangerous imo and sad that our neighbors to the north want to be like that.
                                          Christ you're a fucking idiot.

                                          People like you would use lethal injection on a convicted rapist but wouldn't let the woman he raped have an abortion.

                                          Fuck off.
                                          Last edited by ThunderBalls; 11-25-2003, 06:56 AM.

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                                          • Rochard
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                                            #22
                                            Many, many years ago I was attacked by three people and nearly beat to death. I was in the hospital for three months.

                                            Every year I get a nice letter reminding me that these three people are up for parole. And every year I write back and remind the legal system exactly what these people did to me.

                                            Putting these three to death would have been too good for them. Instead, I'd rather have them rot in jail where every day when they get their salad tossed they are reminded of what they did to me.
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                                            • sperbonzo
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by ThunderBalls


                                              Christ you're a fucking idiot.

                                              People like you would use lethal injection on a convicted rapist but wouldn't let the woman he raped have an abortion.

                                              Fuck off.
                                              How do you figure that? I totally agree with that article (I've seen it first hand), and what the hell does it have to do with what you're talking about?
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                                              • johnny_ricebone
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                                                • Nov 2003
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Lane
                                                have you seen "life of david gale"?

                                                even if one innocent person ever was executed with this justice system, it is an unacceptable tolerance for the death penalty to exist. try not to be so narrowminded and don't look at this situation on a case by case basis.
                                                Its kind of tough not to be narrowminded about this topic. Especially if it was someone close to you. I wasn't affected by the shootings but passion is running high with this case.

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                                                • Theo
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                                                  #25
                                                  I'm against death penalty.

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                                                  • loverboy
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                                                    • May 2003
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                                                    #26
                                                    if it's a mean of putting down the crime rate why not
                                                    impose it to the highest degree?

                                                    crime incidents in our place is high even the cops are
                                                    involved in drug trafficking and bank robberies. death
                                                    penalty is temporarily put to hold coz of some religious
                                                    sector not in favor of death penalty? if Christ was put
                                                    to death without any crime commited, how about those
                                                    bastards who are convicted of henious crimes?

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                                                    • Rocky
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                                                      • Jul 2001
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                                                      #27
                                                      so many people over the years on death row were found innocent

                                                      i am totally against the death penalty
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                                                      • bill555
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                                                        #28
                                                        We need bring back the electric chair, hanging and firing squad.

                                                        The only pushishment with injection, is the time you have to wait till its done.

                                                        I mean do these murderers really care there getting to get pricked by a needle and and go to sleep? Its like putting a kitty to sleep.


                                                        Its easy to be against the death penalty. All i can say is . What would you think if your mother got raped and killed? you would want to kill the man yourself,but would settle for the government to do it.

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                                                        • NBDesign
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                                                          #29
                                                          Hell no... life in prison is far worse than death... hey, once you die, your suffering is over... life in prison and being ass rapped on a daily basis is far worse than death.

                                                          Let these fuckers rot...

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                                                          • loverboy
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Antic
                                                            When you can prove that someone is guilty to 100%, yes.
                                                            If its only 99.9%, no.
                                                            you really cannot determine nor the prosecution
                                                            can come up with a solid evidence that can convict
                                                            a suspect to a crime 100% unless he voluntarily admits.

                                                            come on, wake up in the real world where the jury
                                                            answers only Guilty or Not Guilty.

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                                                            • johnny_ricebone
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by NBDesign
                                                              Hell no... life in prison is far worse than death... hey, once you die, your suffering is over... life in prison and being ass rapped on a daily basis is far worse than death.

                                                              Let these fuckers rot...
                                                              Some people were saying that killing these people was like "saving" them. they believe that they were put on the earth do what they did and by killing them it is a way of "freeing them". That is the only way I think I would let one of these bastards rot in jail.

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                                                              • Furious_Female
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                                                                #32
                                                                I'm for the death penalty. Eye for an eye. However, I hope they are convicted beyond a reasonable doubt... it would be horrible for someone innocent to be put to death, but it would be even worse to do a life sentence, knowing you are innocent.

                                                                If someone kills someone or more than one person, they should pay with their own life. It may not make up for them taking the life of someone else, but why should we all be forced to pay taxes to keep them alive in prison? Rehabilitation is a fuckin joke. Maybe for thieves, drug dealers etc... murder? No that's in your blood.

                                                                They get way too many years to appeal shit too. 10 years extra to rot in jail while the victim's families linger with grief.
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                                                                • fuzebox
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  I don't think anyone should have the ability to choose if someone else lives or dies... But that makes handling convicted murderers/rapists/etc difficult, so instead I would propose to make prisons harsh. Stop wasting money on inmate's comfort. Throw convicted murderers into a dark hole where they can sit and eat slime and shit for the next 50 years, and not cost taxpayers too much.

                                                                  Up here in Canada inmates are happy when they make it into Club Fed... You get go study in the prison library, earn a degree, golf, watch TV, etc, all on the taxpayer's bill. Fucking bullshit.

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                                                                  • TheJimmy
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    I only believe in the death penalty for murderers, rapists and politicians...


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                                                                    • NBDesign
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Furious_Female
                                                                      I'm for the death penalty. Eye for an eye.
                                                                      Eye for an eye would be great... If you are going to put someone to death... fuck these sissy methods... I say that the person should die in the same fashion that they killed their victim.... let them experience what they put that person through.

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                                                                      • NBDesign
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by TheJimmy
                                                                        I only believe in the death penalty for murderers, rapists and politicians...


                                                                        Don't forget lawyers lol

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                                                                        • Theo
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Furious_Female
                                                                          I'm for the death penalty. Eye for an eye.
                                                                          would you kill someone yourself instead having the legal system done it for you?

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                                                                          • eroswebmaster
                                                                            March 1st, 2003
                                                                            • Jul 2001
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            The way things are now I am against the death penalty.

                                                                            Now don't get me wrong, I'm all for revenge...LOL

                                                                            It's been proven time and time again that our justice system is anything but infallible and in a lot of cases prejudicial as well as slanted in the government's favor.

                                                                            Too many people have been found to be innocent in recent years of many crimes and serving differnet forms of punishment up to and including being on death row that should make anyone question whether or not we as "evolved" beings should continue this practice.

                                                                            Even in cases where we think there is irrefutable evidence that the person is guilty there is always room for doubt. Maybe not in their innocence, but in the belief that we can judge with 100% certainty that we can make the ultimate decision to take their life.

                                                                            Science may be exact, but there is always a human behind that science. And with humans there will always be emotions and motives and with that there will always be room for errors whether they be in actions or judgements, accidental or on purpose.

                                                                            So no, I am not "for the death penalty."
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                                                                            • TheJimmy
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by NBDesign
                                                                              Don't forget lawyers lol

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                                                                              • TheJimmy
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Soul_Rebel


                                                                                would you kill someone yourself instead having the legal system done it for you?

                                                                                if someone killed anyone in my family I would...

                                                                                personally I like the Islamic tradition on that, give the family the 1st dibs on the head/chopping on Friday afternoon...

                                                                                I'm down with that...



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                                                                                • Goatse
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                                                                  would you kill someone yourself instead having the legal system done it for you?
                                                                                  If I could get away with it, sure.

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                                                                                  • TheEnforcer
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Nope. The government never should take away what it can't give back.
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                                                                                    • Furious_Female
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Soul_Rebel


                                                                                      would you kill someone yourself instead having the legal system done it for you?
                                                                                      If they killed someone I loved and it was legal for me to flick the switch or put the injections in them, yes. I have no pity for anyone that hurts people I love.

                                                                                      To the above question, I think they should be made to suffer the same miserable death that the victims did.

                                                                                      I also think drunk drivers that kill people are murderers and should be eligible for the death penalty. Sometimes I think that's the worst and most cruel types of way to kill an innocent person because it's just complete carelessness.
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                                                                                      • Theo
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by TheJimmy



                                                                                        if someone killed anyone in my family I would...

                                                                                        personally I like the Islamic tradition on that, give the family the 1st dibs on the head/chopping on Friday afternoon...

                                                                                        I'm down with that...


                                                                                        Would you do that if you didn't see it yourself, but you had enough evidences according to you about who's the killer?

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                                                                                        • TheJimmy
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Soul_Rebel



                                                                                          Would you do that if you didn't see it yourself, but you had enough evidences according to you about who's the killer?
                                                                                          if there was good evidence and 2 witnesses, you betcha...

                                                                                          if it was lacking in evidence or witnesses, I'd have to reconsider...

                                                                                          I believe in good 'breeding' and 'weeding'...

                                                                                          weed out of our gene-pool murderers and rapists...we are smart enough to do it with animals...why not in the human race?


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                                                                                          • eroswebmaster
                                                                                            March 1st, 2003
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Soul_Rebel


                                                                                            would you kill someone yourself instead having the legal system done it for you?
                                                                                            I said that I was against the death penalty but all for revenge

                                                                                            If the government executes an "innocent" person there really is no one to be held responsible.

                                                                                            If I kill an innocent or guilty person who I think is responsible for a loved ones death then I can and will be held responsible.

                                                                                            Now to really answer your question...if someone were to kill a loved one I honestly don't know how I would handle it unless it was one of my nieces.

                                                                                            If someone were to take their life I would not kill them...however I would probably let them live but would instead kill as many people they cared about that I could before I got caught.

                                                                                            They would know 10x's the pain me or my family would be suffering before it's all over with.
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                                                                                            • MeatAxe
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Soul_Rebel



                                                                                              Would you do that if you didn't see it yourself, but you had enough evidences according to you about who's the killer?
                                                                                              Yep i would certainly....
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                                                                                              • Theo
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                So according to the history of legal systems you could have killed an innocent as well.

                                                                                                Would you handle the truth after some time if you find out you killed an innocent? What would you tell to his/her parents after that? I'm sorry,it was a mistake?

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                                                                                                • NBDesign
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                                                                                  So according to the history of legal systems you could have killed an innocent as well.

                                                                                                  Would you handle the truth after some time if you find out you killed an innocent? What would you tell to his/her parents after that? I'm sorry,it was a mistake?
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                                                                                                  • eroswebmaster
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                                                                                    So according to the history of legal systems you could have killed an innocent as well.

                                                                                                    Would you handle the truth after some time if you find out you killed an innocent? What would you tell to his/her parents after that? I'm sorry,it was a mistake?
                                                                                                    The difference is if I killed for revenge regardless of whether or not I found out the person was not the killer I would have admitted my guilt...so either way I would be punished for my crimes.
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