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    Would you pay for a service that features most if not all sponsor hosted galleries and gives you short text descriptions for each? How about an added feature where you get small thumbs from the galleries to your specifications? Please post your opinions here.
  • juicylinks
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    • Apr 2001
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    #2
    Originally posted by $5 submissions
    Would you pay for a service that features most if not all sponsor hosted galleries and gives you short text descriptions for each? How about an added feature where you get small thumbs from the galleries to your specifications? Please post your opinions here.

    i wouldnt need it for my setup but I am sure some people might find it usefull

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      #3
      Originally posted by juicylinks



      i wouldnt need it for my setup but I am sure some people might find it usefull
      Your setup looks like you use small thumbnail samples from SHGs. Would such a service interest you?

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      • xdcdave
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        • Feb 2003
        • 1911

        #4
        the thumbnails are easy.. ImageMagick and proper scripting

        but it depends on the price I suppose, it could prove useful under certain circumstances. As long as it can be downloaded in a flat-text file daily or easily pulled in a standard format to update the tgp automatically.

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        • chemicaleyes
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          • Aug 2003
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          #5
          Originally posted by $5 submissions
          Would you pay for a service that features most if not all sponsor hosted galleries and gives you short text descriptions for each? How about an added feature where you get small thumbs from the galleries to your specifications? Please post your opinions here.
          Good idea but the only problem I have when thinking about this is everybody ends up with same descriptions or do you mean to supply everybody with custom descriptions..?
          No way as way, No limitation as limitation. AmeriNOC formally PhatServers

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            #6
            Originally posted by xdcdave
            the thumbnails are easy.. ImageMagick and proper scripting

            but it depends on the price I suppose, it could prove useful under certain circumstances. As long as it can be downloaded in a flat-text file daily or easily pulled in a standard format to update the tgp automatically.
            Basically, it will look like this format (number of pics)(short description -- you decide length)(link with your ref code)

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              #7
              Originally posted by chemicaleyes
              Good idea but the only problem I have when thinking about this is everybody ends up with same descriptions or do you mean to supply everybody with custom descriptions..?
              Basically, I'd treat it like content. Custom jobs vs. "off the shelf" stuff. I do have some ideas in mind in order to prevent 'description saturation'

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              • Adult Site Traffic
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                • Mar 2003
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                #8
                Originally posted by $5 submissions
                I do have some ideas in mind in order to prevent 'description saturation'
                Or a random description pool maybe? But the drawback to that would be that the more descriptions were in the pool, the more generic they'd be.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic


                  Or a random description pool maybe? But the drawback to that would be that the more descriptions were in the pool, the more generic they'd be.
                  Exactly. The value proposition here is 1) accuracy of descriptions 2) preventive measures re saturation 3) written to entice the user to click

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                  • pamphage
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                    • Jan 2003
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                    #10
                    gotta love $5 submissions. his noggin is always workin overtime on how to make more dough :-)
                    SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR.
                    Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.
                    Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

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                    • chemicaleyes
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                      • Aug 2003
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic


                      Or a random description pool maybe? But the drawback to that would be that the more descriptions were in the pool, the more generic they'd be.
                      that's what I was thinking, but maybe a number of random description pools, so each description pool is only used by a certain number of webmasters..
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by chemicaleyes
                        that's what I was thinking, but maybe a number of random description pools, so each description pool is only used by a certain number of webmasters..
                        Maybe there's a more passive but effective way to prevent saturation. Either way, it would be like shopping for clothes... different styles but all fit. All have to be well written though.

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                        • mryellow
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                          • May 2001
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                          #13
                          I've just finished writting descriptions for 3500 hosted galleries, not much fun... Don't think I'd want to do it 5 more times just for a rotation.

                          btw I'm doing this for a script that does hosted gallery submissions with your sponsor codes for free...

                          [email protected]

                          -Ben
                          Cyberwurx Hosting
                          After trying 5 different hosts, I found the best.
                          Since 1997 I've had 2 hours of downtime.
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                          • xdcdave
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                            • Feb 2003
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by pamphage
                            gotta love $5 submissions. his noggin is always workin overtime on how to make more dough :-)
                            Indeed.. for $16 a day I should just hire him full time to make money for me. it's like sponsoring one of those Sally Struthers kids.

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                            • xdcdave
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                              • Feb 2003
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by mryellow
                              I've just finished writting descriptions for 3500 hosted galleries, not much fun... Don't think I'd want to do it 5 more times just for a rotation.

                              btw I'm doing this for a script that does hosted gallery submissions with your sponsor codes for free...

                              [email protected]

                              -Ben
                              did someone say free? how do you intend on making money off this venture?

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                              • Adult Site Traffic
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                                • Mar 2003
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by chemicaleyes
                                that's what I was thinking, but maybe a number of random description pools, so each description pool is only used by a certain number of webmasters..
                                Yea, that'd be easy. Once the scripting is in place, just build on that.

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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by xdcdave


                                  Indeed.. for $16 a day I should just hire him full time to make money for me. it's like sponsoring one of those Sally Struthers kids.
                                  Except this Sally Struthers kid has a higher IQ and has an advanced degree!

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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic


                                    Yea, that'd be easy. Once the scripting is in place, just build on that.
                                    Whenever someon mentions "scripting" my skin crawls. Just as Charlie don't surf...bots can't write!

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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by pamphage
                                      gotta love $5 submissions. his noggin is always workin overtime on how to make more dough :-)
                                      I work a shitload of hours every day and it's not enough. I love this biz!

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                                      • juicylinks
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                                        • Apr 2001
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by $5 submissions


                                        Your setup looks like you use small thumbnail samples from SHGs. Would such a service interest you?
                                        I load up a list of SPH galleries into a DB and then the db updates the sites hourly and rotates shit arouns

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                                        • chemicaleyes
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                                          • Aug 2003
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by juicylinks


                                          I load up a list of SPH galleries into a DB and then the db updates the sites hourly and rotates shit arouns
                                          still wouldn't you like something that you have to do next to no updating to apart from (copy&paste) input/uploading etc...?
                                          No way as way, No limitation as limitation. AmeriNOC formally PhatServers

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                                          • mryellow
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                                            • May 2001
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                                            #22
                                            To better answer your question $5.

                                            I'm found interest in this kind of thing to be modest. Probably not
                                            enough demand for a paid service. Especially considering there
                                            are free services popping up.

                                            Free = 5% of galleries with my sponsor code, 95% with yours.

                                            -Ben
                                            Cyberwurx Hosting
                                            After trying 5 different hosts, I found the best.
                                            Since 1997 I've had 2 hours of downtime.
                                            Fast support, great techs, no hype, no gimmicks.

                                            <- I in no way endorse whatever just got stuck on the left of my post.

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                                            • juicylinks
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                                              • Apr 2001
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by chemicaleyes
                                              still wouldn't you like something that you have to do next to no updating to apart from (copy&paste) input/uploading etc...?
                                              They update by themselves hourly via cron i dont touch em at all

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                                                #24
                                                Please post url of free services that follow the 5/95 split biz model.

                                                Originally posted by mryellow
                                                To better answer your question $5.

                                                I'm found interest in this kind of thing to be modest. Probably not
                                                enough demand for a paid service. Especially considering there
                                                are free services popping up.

                                                Free = 5% of galleries with my sponsor code, 95% with yours.

                                                -Ben

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                                                • chemicaleyes
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by juicylinks


                                                  They update by themselves hourly via cron i dont touch em at all
                                                  okay..
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                                                    #26
                                                    And for the bigger TGPs or those that are using lots of blog/journal/messageboard traffic as add ons, custom text is key to making this work. There's definitely two markets for this.

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                                                    • shermo

                                                      #27
                                                      It's a great idea, but just like Juicy, I have mine update hourly via a cron job. I'd be interested in the final product though for some other TGP sites I'm looking to start up.

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                                                      • mryellow
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                                                        • May 2001
                                                        • 934

                                                        #28
                                                        $5 No URL but just email me if you're interested [email protected] .... Maybe we can work something cool out.

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                                                        Since 1997 I've had 2 hours of downtime.
                                                        Fast support, great techs, no hype, no gimmicks.

                                                        <- I in no way endorse whatever just got stuck on the left of my post.

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                                                        • KCat
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                                                          • Sep 2002
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                                                          #29
                                                          Do the galleries have the TGP owner's code in them or yours?

                                                          I would pay to have new sponsor galleries mailed to me in a txt file with my codes already inserted (or info on where to sign up), broken down by niche. For starting up it would be a lot faster obviously but would take out the searching for new galleries too.

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                                                          • Mr Pheer
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                                                            • Dec 2002
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by juicylinks


                                                            I load up a list of SPH galleries into a DB and then the db updates the sites hourly and rotates shit arouns
                                                            I just add mine to a text file and let php dish it out randomly

                                                            control the niche with the filenames for the php file

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                                                            • chemicaleyes
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                                                              • Aug 2003
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by KCat
                                                              Do the galleries have the TGP owner's code in them or yours?

                                                              I would pay to have new sponsor galleries mailed to me in a txt file with my codes already inserted (or info on where to sign up), broken down by niche. For starting up it would be a lot faster obviously but would take out the searching for new galleries too.
                                                              The galleries would have to have the TGP owners code in them otherwise there would be no point to it. The idea here should be to supply webmasters with a txt file something like:
                                                              15|http://www.Gallery-URL.com|Gallery Description
                                                              So you have number of pics in gallery, gallery url with your ref-code & custom gallery descriptions or off the shelf gallery descriptions. Then just copy and paste into your TGP script.
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by chemicaleyes
                                                                The galleries would have to have the TGP owners code in them otherwise there would be no point to it. The idea here should be to supply webmasters with a txt file something like:
                                                                15|http://www.Gallery-URL.com|Gallery Description
                                                                So you have number of pics in gallery, gallery url with your ref-code & custom gallery descriptions or off the shelf gallery descriptions. Then just copy and paste into your TGP script.
                                                                This solution would save so much time for the tgp webmaster. Create better clickthroughs as well.

                                                                This benefits the surfer because they have a better idea of what to expect and will bookmark the site more than a site with "blind" ie., non described links.

                                                                Benefits of a text tgp as opposed to a picture thumb-based index tgp is that you are able to fit more material in the same space and you also filter your traffic better.

                                                                This also benefits all tgp webmasters because this puts the onus on sponsors to crank out SHGs at a faster pace with fresher content than the current trend

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                                                                • Reak
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                                                                  • Mar 2003
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by juicylinks



                                                                  i wouldnt need it for my setup but I am sure some people might find it usefull

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                                                                  • chemicaleyes
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by $5 submissions
                                                                    This also benefits all tgp webmasters because this puts the onus on sponsors to crank out SHGs at a faster pace with fresher content than the current trend
                                                                    No way as way, No limitation as limitation. AmeriNOC formally PhatServers

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                                                                    • chemicaleyes
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      lets see some more opinions on this...
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                                                                      • rjstar
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                                                                        • Jul 2002
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        I would consider using it, if you mamualy made all the thumbs to be high pulling... if you just used a script to make the thumbs I may as well do it myself.
                                                                        <a href='http://stats.ars4real.com/wmref/click.php?type=but&a=1017433'> <img border=1 src='http://stats.ars4real.com/wmref/load.php?type=but&a=1017433'>

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                                                                          #37
                                                                          From my experience, specific and accurate text links generate more click throughs than either generic descriptions (e.g. 19 toons) or those "face" shot thumbs. Face shot thumb galleries get really boring after a while and you better have your cron job up to speed cua burnout rate is high.
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                                                                          • boneprone
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by $5 submissions
                                                                            Would you pay for a service that features most if not all sponsor hosted galleries and gives you short text descriptions for each? How about an added feature where you get small thumbs from the galleries to your specifications? Please post your opinions here.
                                                                            already been done.
                                                                            many people using it.

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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by boneprone


                                                                              already been done.
                                                                              many people using it.
                                                                              Please post URLs. Are these free, by the way?
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                                                                              • 69pornlinks
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Damn it's about 390+ TGP owners here, or just nosy
                                                                                It IS what it IS

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                                                                                • - AFN -
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by 69pornlinks
                                                                                  Damn it's about 390+ TGP owners here, or just nosy
                                                                                  Out of 5 or 6,000 registered webmasters, that's a pretty low % actually.
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                                                                                  • Groove
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by chemicaleyes
                                                                                    Good idea but the only problem I have when thinking about this is everybody ends up with same descriptions or do you mean to supply everybody with custom descriptions..?
                                                                                    You could offer a free service that skims 5% of the sponsor codes and provides the same description to all. Plus a paid service which does not skim and guarantees that the specific description will only be used by a maximum of say 10 TGPs, ie if you had 100 paying clients you'd write 10 variations of the description.

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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Groove


                                                                                      You could offer a free service that skims 5% of the sponsor codes and provides the same description to all. Plus a paid service which does not skim and guarantees that the specific description will only be used by a maximum of say 10 TGPs, ie if you had 100 paying clients you'd write 10 variations of the description.
                                                                                      That's a good setup, gives webmasters choice and providing a good service.
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                                                                                      • Groove
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by $5 submissions
                                                                                        How about an added feature where you get small thumbs from the galleries to your specifications?
                                                                                        Most Thumb Preview software will create thumbs automatically, so this service would only be useful if you did carefully selected and composed hand-crops.

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                                                                                        • Steve
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                                                                                          • Feb 2001
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          sorry - a one time fee would be acceptable (and I have done this several times already)

                                                                                          but honestly, the best gallery descriptions I know of come from ME

                                                                                          so, I hope this service takes off like gangbusters

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                                                                                          • $5 submissions
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            The problem with the assertion of those guys who say that this has been done before is that to SKIM traffic, you have to control that traffic. How can you control SHG traffic when you're giving the link description (cut to the webmaster's specification) in data pipe format when you're not storing the URL on your server? All links will have the webmaster's ref codes.

                                                                                            What's preventing webmasters from running a Search and global replace of your ref code with theirs?

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                                                                                            • q00p
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by $5 submissions
                                                                                              The problem with the assertion of those guys who say that this has been done before is that to SKIM traffic, you have to control that traffic. How can you control SHG traffic when you're giving the link description (cut to the webmaster's specification) in data pipe format when you're not storing the URL on your server? All links will have the webmaster's ref codes.

                                                                                              What's preventing webmasters from running a Search and global replace of your ref code with theirs?
                                                                                              True, you just have to trust that webmasters will be honest and pay you back for using a useful service.. It's like a type of webmaster karma, what goes around comes around.. If they just use the links as provided they will be successful, while if they get greedy and cut your ref code, well it will come back to bite them in the ass hopefully..
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                                                                                              • chemicaleyes
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by boneprone


                                                                                                already been done.
                                                                                                many people using it.
                                                                                                url? to a site providing custom shg's descriptions... I have not seen one & I've been looking..
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                                                                                                • chemicaleyes
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by q00p


                                                                                                  True, you just have to trust that webmasters will be honest and pay you back for using a useful service.. It's like a type of webmaster karma, what goes around comes around.. If they just use the links as provided they will be successful, while if they get greedy and cut your ref code, well it will come back to bite them in the ass hopefully..
                                                                                                  There is no way for it to come back and bite webmasters in the ass, they would just endup with free shg's descriptions for a while.. but if you have all shg's listed & they pay for custom descriptions (custom to 1 or maybe to 10 max) they get a service that doesn't seem to be around? urls? - (to get shg's descriptions with your sponsor ref urls in a format ready to be pasted in to tgp scripts.)
                                                                                                  Last edited by chemicaleyes; 11-27-2003, 03:32 AM.
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                                                                                                  • - AFN -
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    I haven't seen any services that offer custom description galleries. And even if they exist, I'm sure they are expensive.

                                                                                                    Even the people who say there are generic services out there using a skimming business model are quite oblivious to the fact that many webmasters end up using the same descriptions over and over again.

                                                                                                    Originally posted by chemicaleyes
                                                                                                    There is no way for it to come back and bite webmasters in the ass, they would just endup with free shg's descriptions for a while.. but if you have all shg's listed & they pay for custom descriptions (custom to 1 or maybe to 10 max) they get a service that doesn't seem to be around? urls? - (to get shg's descriptions with your sponsor ref urls in a format ready to be pasted in to tgp scripts.)
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