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United TGP Cheaters Database

11-21-2003, 07:22 PM

Alright it is not much to look at right now, but we (a friend and I) have put a united TGP cheaters database to help all legitimate TGP owners out.

The URL is www.xxxcheaters.com, and this is what our aim/goal is. The current list is relatively small, and it although we will update it almost daily, we can obviously not catch every cheater. As such, we are looking to get respected TGP owners to join with us and help us do so.

To do this, we will give these webmasters a pass code to submit cheater domains (the script handles any double submissions, etc - still some work is needed though) and whenever they have the time to do such; they can submit their latest cheater list for all to view.

What do they have to gain from this? Well, the aim is to create a site that makes it much harder for cheaters to earn a lot of money. With time we hope to make the process more automated, so that you don't even have to visit our site and instead your cheater list is updated automatically (if you should choose this).

If when a cheater submits his domains he is blacklisted on most medium-big TGP's within one day (or eventually one hour ;)) he will earn much less money, and hopefully lead him away from cheating in the future.

To do this though, we need your TGP owner?s support. So if you?re a TGP webmaster who would like to submit cheater domains (keep in mind you will have to prove yourself sufficiently to get a pass) feel free to contact me on ICQ (344709237) and we will talk it over.

To other TGP owners I invite you to visit our site and extract the current list. It is not yet a complete list, but it is getting better by the day (as will the site - this is just organising really - ignore the design). Also, visit back daily and also feel free to bump this thread ;)
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11-21-2003, 07:24 PM

I get a 404 or maybe it is because I am behind a firewall

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11-21-2003, 07:26 PM

nice idea

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11-21-2003, 07:27 PM

If you weren't a nazi I'd help you promote it.

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11-21-2003, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by kenny
I get a 404 or maybe it is because I am behind a firewall

There was a "," at the end of the URL. He fixed it.

Nice idea. I like the simple text format for Copy and Pasting.

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11-21-2003, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by kenny
I get a 404 or maybe it is because I am behind a firewall

Yeah, it should be working, it works for me. I threw the script together, its not much, but it works alright.
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11-21-2003, 07:29 PM

If you weren't a nazi I'd help you promote it.

hehe, I am not a nazi ;). I have strong political views, but that shall not effect business.
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11-21-2003, 07:29 PM

Thats a good idea, but once those domains get dropped then legit people buy them and wonder why they cant submit anywhere .

START USING WHOIS TO BAN

You will find that more than half that list is owned by the same person.

and they arent very clever yet. If you ban by NAMESERVERS you wont have to ban by domains

They use the same sets of DNS and emails in most of the domains.

i.e. HIHOST4ALL

i.e. XVALUEHOST

i.e. NASTYSEXY

you add those 3 to a whois checker and BAM you have 99% of your problem solved
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11-21-2003, 07:32 PM

Thats a good idea, but once those domains get dropped then legit people buy them and wonder why they cant submit anywhere .

Thats why we have a search function. If anyone is looking to sell lots of domains you can check if they are cheater domains. And if you shall buy a domain, and than realise it is on our cheater list we ofcourse would be willing to remove you from that list (by checking the date you registered it).
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11-21-2003, 07:32 PM

Yea it works now. I like that idea.

Only thing is if somebody bans a domain for no reason it really fucks that person up.

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11-21-2003, 07:33 PM

Thats a good idea, but once those domains get dropped then legit people buy them and wonder why they cant submit anywhere .

Thats why we have a search function. If anyone is looking to sell lots of domains to you, you can check if they are cheater domains or if they are safe.

And if you shall buy a domain, and than realise it is on our cheater list we ofcourse would be willing to remove you from that list (by checking the date you registered it).
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11-21-2003, 07:35 PM

Only thing is if somebody bans a domain for no reason it really fucks that person up.

Thats why we are looking for serious TGP webmasters only. Not to be harsh, but we won't be giving anyone who is not well known/trusted a pass to submit urls.
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11-21-2003, 07:37 PM

Originally posted by Odin88

Thats why we have a search function. If anyone is looking to sell lots of domains you can check if they are cheater domains. And if you shall buy a domain, and than realise it is on our cheater list we ofcourse would be willing to remove you from that list (by checking the date you registered it).

As long as you keep up on it. But if you use WHOIS you wont need that list.

Trust me. I help run a tgp that cut its submits down so much we thought it was broken. After looking into it it turns out its one group of scammers with a whole shitload of domains. And a very swift person who gets around the scripts fast as flies on shit. But he cant get around the whois ban's without re-registering and changing every domain info. And when they do i will be on that shit.
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11-21-2003, 07:40 PM

As long as you keep up on it. But if you use WHOIS you wont need that list.

Don't worry the process of checking the domain registration date when a complaint comes in can also be automated with time. So we will keep up on it.
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11-21-2003, 07:47 PM

Originally posted by Smokey The Bear

As long as you keep up on it. But if you use WHOIS you wont need that list.

Trust me. I help run a tgp that cut its submits down so much we thought it was broken. After looking into it it turns out its one group of scammers with a whole shitload of domains. And a very swift person who gets around the scripts fast as flies on shit. But he cant get around the whois ban's without re-registering and changing every domain info. And when they do i will be on that shit.

all he has to do is use a real host that everybody else is using, like an isprime or jupiter, etc... people can put anything they want in the whois info. One cheater domain can be under mickey mouse and the other could be under donald duck. They can register plenty of domains through a bulk register account, which can register domains simply through email.

Banning C-blocks or even by IPs isn't the answer either, can cut out too many good sites easiliy if they are on a packed virtual account host.
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11-21-2003, 07:50 PM

I would never use this...
why?

they can be like a mafia...
they can bully small tgp submitters to pay them a "fee" not to get blacklisted
If they don't pay they get blacklisted on all tgps and say bye bye to the industry.

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11-21-2003, 07:53 PM

ummmm, i think we'd be exposed pretty fast by complaining people on message boards if we tried to do something like that.
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11-21-2003, 07:53 PM

they can be like a mafia...
they can bully small tgp submitters to pay them a "fee" not to get blacklisted
If they don't pay they get blacklisted on all tgps and say bye bye to the industry.

You don't think that if we were to do something like this it would become quickly apparent on the forums? We will be doing everything we can to help legitimate submitters out, and with time hopefully 100% of submissions will be coming from other TGP webmasters.
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11-21-2003, 07:56 PM

Originally posted by ZakAttack

all he has to do is use a real host that everybody else is using, like an isprime or jupiter, etc... people can put anything they want in the whois info. One cheater domain can be under mickey mouse and the other could be under donald duck. They can register plenty of domains through a bulk register account, which can register domains simply through email.

Banning C-blocks or even by IPs isn't the answer either, can cut out too many good sites easiliy if they are on a packed virtual account host.

No they cant do that because they would get shutdown, and it doesnt matter they arent doing that . I know i have done the checking.

Its working fine on tgp's right now using whois in the script before it gets submitted , by the time you blacklist a site its alreay to late your surfers have been hacked and popped all to hell.

When they start being trickier i will find a way to stop it. You can do wildcard whois checking and cut the submits . Im telling you its a good idea but your wasting your time.
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11-21-2003, 07:58 PM

One of my 4 domains is on there and I've never cheated a day in my life.

Explain yourself fucker!!!

The domain was used to hand submit hand-built galleries for 3 months and they were all kept live for almost a year.

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11-21-2003, 08:02 PM

Nice service, thanks
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11-21-2003, 08:02 PM

and they would get shutodwn how? The whois info doesn't have to match up the name that the hosting bills to. Most hosts won't kick a paying customer just for TGP cheating, its not even against the law. I have yet to even see a TGP with an acceptible use policy at all. You would have trouble for even sueing somebody for something like that.
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11-21-2003, 08:05 PM

Originally posted by MuleScrote
One of my 4 domains is on there and I've never cheated a day in my life.

Explain yourself fucker!!!

The domain was used to hand submit hand-built galleries for 3 months and they were all kept live for almost a year.

And now everyone is adding your list to theirs...this is a true example of an honest guy getting fucked over.

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11-21-2003, 08:06 PM

Originally posted by ZakAttack
and they would get shutodwn how? The whois info doesn't have to match up the name that the hosting bills to. Most hosts won't kick a paying customer just for TGP cheating, its not even against the law. I have yet to even see a TGP with an acceptible use policy at all. You would have trouble for even sueing somebody for something like that.

Valid whois information is required or domain gets ganked . Tell me a domain that has invalid info and ill have it ganked in a week.

With the exception of a few registrars that will soon have troubles with icann.

In the last few months i have had more domains shutdown than you have on that list almost. Its all about who you call and what you say.
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11-21-2003, 08:09 PM

The domain was used to hand submit hand-built galleries for 3 months and they were all kept live for almost a year.

Whats your domain? I pulled 90% of these from an old Hun thread. Contact me on ICQ and we will sort it out.
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11-21-2003, 08:15 PM

Anyone ever thought of doing a master TRUSTED list? It seems that would be easier to control. TGP's owners could vote in trusted domains and when enough different TGP owners vote for a domain the submitter is contacted, verified and added to the list. Then TGP owners could have a set of good webmasters they didn't have to worry about.

I'm not sure how well it would work of if it would be of any value but sometimes I just like to pull ideas out of my butt
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11-21-2003, 08:15 PM

Originally posted by Oracle Porn
I would never use this...
why?

they can be like a mafia...
they can bully small tgp submitters to pay them a "fee" not to get blacklisted
If they don't pay they get blacklisted on all tgps and say bye bye to the industry.

next!

He's a nazi, not a mafia man. I'll bet his real name is Hans.

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11-21-2003, 08:19 PM

Originally posted by Smokey The Bear

Valid whois information is required or domain gets ganked . Tell me a domain that has invalid info and ill have it ganked in a week.

With the exception of a few registrars that will soon have troubles with icann.

In the last few months i have had more domains shutdown than you have on that list almost. Its all about who you call and what you say.

how do they know its valid. He could just put a bunch of his friend's stuff down and then say he's hosting their websites. I believe this stuff you're saying about as much as I believe your posts earlier about magically chasing after those "spammers" and getting them shut down.
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11-21-2003, 08:20 PM

He's a nazi, not a mafia man. I'll bet his real name is Hans.

Would of been closer if you said Steve ;)
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11-21-2003, 08:21 PM

Originally posted by MuleScrote

And now everyone is adding your list to theirs...this is a true example of an honest guy getting fucked over.

Your not alone, one of mine is on there.
I got dicked around during the cologroup fiasco so I am on the list with ya, lol
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11-21-2003, 08:21 PM

None of mine are there but one of my domains use to be hosted on lsfreehost.... no wonder nobody would accept anything from that site! Glad I move off of that server and got my own!

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11-21-2003, 08:21 PM

Valid whois information is required or domain gets ganked . Tell me a domain that has invalid info and ill have it ganked in a week.

With the exception of a few registrars that will soon have troubles with icann.

Please, I have had invalid info on many domains with godaddy for ages (as I am sure many other GFY members have).
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11-21-2003, 08:25 PM

Your not alone, one of mine is on there.
I got dicked around during the cologroup fiasco so I am on the list with ya, lol

Like I explained to Mule, the current list is just a start up list I pulled (alot - not entirly) from a hun thread. I helped show Mule were I got his domain from, and I than talked to him and pulled it from the list.

In future though the system will be much more accurate as it is updated daily, and if you EVER believe your domain is wrongly on there you can contact me on ICQ anytime.
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11-21-2003, 08:25 PM

Originally posted by Odin88

Whats your domain? I pulled 90% of these from an old Hun thread. Contact me on ICQ and we will sort it out.

You know, if you dont have a reason for blacklisting the domain on your own, you shouldn't be posting it as a resource.
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11-21-2003, 08:26 PM

Steve the Nazi.

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11-21-2003, 08:27 PM

Steve the Nazi.

Crocodile Nazi thanks
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11-21-2003, 08:30 PM

Originally posted by Odin88

Crocodile Nazi thanks

Still a Nazi.

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11-21-2003, 08:33 PM

ima nazi
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11-21-2003, 08:37 PM

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Wouldn't doubt it!

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11-21-2003, 08:42 PM

Originally posted by Odin88

Like I explained to Mule, the current list is just a start up list I pulled (alot - not entirly) from a hun thread. I helped show Mule were I got his domain from, and I than talked to him and pulled it from the list.

In future though the system will be much more accurate as it is updated daily, and if you EVER believe your domain is wrongly on there you can contact me on ICQ anytime.

Thanks for helping me to get that straightened out. I searched gfy for any mention of my domain and only found it the big list of tgp's to submit to posted by Amp and a couple other. Haven't found it on any of the huns lists either.

But this domain is also listed at porncheaters, cmwkings claims to have the ban reason for most of the domains he didn't pull from the hun list. I would be curious to find out what he had on me.

I've never redirected or had a pop-up or scripted shit on any website i've ever put up.

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11-21-2003, 08:49 PM

Just made it's debut and already has problems. Typical Nazis..

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11-21-2003, 08:58 PM

Just made it's debut and already has problems.

Believe me, we appreciate the feedback from legitimate people, and many suggestions have been thrown our way and we are working on improving the site. This launch was not meant to be a be all and end all, just to let webmasters have a look at the site, review the concept and tell us what we need to change and improve.

We do not want to dictate to anyone here, if you have ideas throw them at us (AWI has given us a number of them) and if they are good, and appear to be widely wanted, they will be implemented.Oh and your attempts to discredit me are very lame. Find yourself something more productive to do.
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11-21-2003, 09:00 PM

Its awesome I love it

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11-21-2003, 09:00 PM

No hard feelings here...I know you meant well by trying to save everyone some time.

But as was said earlier, if you don't know why a domain is on the list...maybe it shouldn't be offered in a list as part of a service. The effects could cripple somebody.

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11-21-2003, 09:04 PM

Vote No! for Nazi!

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11-21-2003, 09:06 PM

Its awesome I love it

Thanks! A lot more work is needed, but we believe that with time it will become a useful webmaster tool.

No hard feelings here...I know you meant well by trying to save everyone some time.

But as was said earlier, if you don't know why a domain is on the list...maybe it shouldn't be offered in a list as part of a service. The effects could cripple somebody.

Don't worry, after some suggestions on AWI we are already working on a better way to do this. We are currently working towards it showing a 'date added', 'added by' and 'reason for adding' option.

The reason for adding option will be harder to master accurately, but we will naturally do our very best to make it work. And no hard feelings from this side, I appreciate comments from those of you who constructively pick faults in the program.
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11-21-2003, 09:11 PM

Originally posted by Odin88

Don't worry, after some suggestions on AWI we are already working on a better way to do this. We are currently working towards it showing a 'date added', 'added by' and 'reason for adding' option.

The reason for adding option will be harder to master accurately, but we will naturally do our very best to make it work. And no hard feelings from this side, I appreciate comments from those of you who constructively pick faults in the program.

You're headed in the right direction.

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11-21-2003, 09:17 PM

Do you have any interest from the *legitimate* TGP's to join in or is this still a concept? Getting a concensous as to banning sites/webmasters seems hard to do with all the different rules.
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11-21-2003, 09:20 PM

You're headed in the right direction.

Thanks. Hopefully with enough webmaster support when can get there.

Do you have any interest from the *legitimate* TGP's to join in or is this still a concept? Getting a concensous as to banning sites/webmasters seems hard to do with all the different rules.

If you are interested hit me up and ICQ and we will talk (344709237).
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