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    • evilregis
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      • Oct 2003
      • 163

      #52
      Good luck man... I'm needing to quit soon myself. Gotta get the balls to set a quit date.

      The gf is a smoker too so I'd like us to set a date together... otherwise I question the chances of it being successful and I'm sick of TRYING to quit.

      Time to shit or get off the pot, I guess.
      eR
      :: beauty is in the eye of the beer-holder ::

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      • shermo

        #53
        Good luck! Your're kicking a bad habbit that fucks with your body as much as it fucks with others. I know it's hard to quit, but it'll be worth it in the long run!

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        • silent moan
          Confirmed User
          • Nov 2003
          • 1908

          #54
          "Cigarette smoking (try other stuff, yeah know!) is dangerous to your health" well, what more can i say!

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          • BrentD
            ZothNET.com
            • May 2003
            • 1426

            #55
            I WANT A CIGARETTE


            1d 8:35 smoke-free, 32 cigs not smoked, $4.48 saved, 2:40 life saved
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            • msg
              Confirmed User
              • Mar 2002
              • 293

              #56
              just keep rubbing that patch! The craving will pass.

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              • doober
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                • Jul 2003
                • 6984

                #57
                haha!
                Day 2 no smoking and 40 minutes of cardio at the gym, had a rough time sleeping last nite and woke up sweating a few times but I am feeling much better than yesterday!

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                • TaraD
                  Confirmed User
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 171

                  #58
                  I am very proud of him I have been smoke free for 6 months I know he can do this. He is at the point today though that when he says to me he wants one and i say know he returns and says
                  This is my life I can do what i want your not my boss LOL I know this soon will pass as well he has made it more than 24 hours and i know he can do this

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                  • doober
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 6984

                    #59
                    Day 3 of No smoking!
                    had a very rough time sleeping last nite, slept maybe 4hrs total.

                    Went to the gym and did 40 minutes of cardio...this shit aint getting any easier.

                    Still going...


                    Brent how you holding up?

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                    • BrentD
                      ZothNET.com
                      • May 2003
                      • 1426

                      #60
                      2d 12:01 smoke-free, 69 cigs not smoked, $9.66 saved, 5:45 life saved
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                      • BrentD
                        ZothNET.com
                        • May 2003
                        • 1426

                        #61
                        Originally posted by doober
                        Day 3 of No smoking!
                        had a very rough time sleeping last nite, slept maybe 4hrs total.

                        Went to the gym and did 40 minutes of cardio...this shit aint getting any easier.

                        Still going...


                        Brent how you holding up?
                        1st day was easy, 2nd day was hard and today so far I want to fucking punch something and I am eating like a fucking horse.

                        I have attempted to go to the mini mart a couple times now for a pack of cigs but the wife whines and cries when I attempt to so fuck it, guess I got more then 1 mom in this life telling me what to do, anyway yes I am cranky, are you cranky as hell too? LOL
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                        • doober
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                          • Jul 2003
                          • 6984

                          #62
                          well im not cranky but im acting fucking weird...lol...stress i guess and the witdrawal of it all.

                          I find it gets hard late at night when i enjoy smoking the most I guess.
                          Went to a concert last nite, thank god it was no smoking in that place cause I would have been so DONE!
                          I cant even be near the smell as it provokes all kinds of whackiness at this point...Guess it gona be like this for the next short while.
                          I also started the gym again after few mnths of not going...Only doing cardio for now just to kinda cleanse myself and eating better too....I also feel like I need to break stuff and punch shit thank god for the lil excersice in the morning or I would be very fucked!

                          Ill keep bumping this thread everyday with a lil update as long as I dont crack...Which I shouldnt.

                          Pretty much at this point your 3 days ahead of where you were n sunday so having a smoke now would just set you back another 3 days of pain & frustration!

                          Fuck it, keep strong and you will make it!

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                          • BrentD
                            ZothNET.com
                            • May 2003
                            • 1426

                            #63
                            3d 9:40 smoke-free, 94 cigs not smoked, $13.16 saved, 7:50 life saved

                            I NEED A DAMN CIGARETTE!!!!!

                            Man I am going insane here I think hahaha
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                            • avion
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 1403

                              #64
                              dude, what are you talking about - to quit smoking is really an easy and simple thing to do...
                              I mean most smokers had done it thousands times, right

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                              • msg
                                Confirmed User
                                • Mar 2002
                                • 293

                                #65
                                good job guys, keep it up. Fight the power!

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                                • nobull
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Oct 2002
                                  • 1256

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by va2k
                                  I got one last pack of smokes im smoking today tomorrow I will quit I have wellburtin the patches and tons of candy good luck brent. I know im going to need it
                                  TOM
                                  Good luck Tom. I quit 2 months ago. I woke up and said, im not going to smoke anymore and stopped. I smoked 2 packs a day and have smoked for 12 years. THE ONLY WAY YOU WILL QUIT IS WHEN YOU WANT TO. Do not quit just becuase everyone else is doing it or asking you too, you have to want to quit yourself. It is not hard when you really want to quit. The only thing that helped me take the edge off the first couple days was gum. I worked out alot (lost 20 lbs.) drank alot of caffine and banged the shit out of the wife to get all my extra engery out ;)

                                  Good luck to all here, you can do it!

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                                  • TaraD
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                                    • Nov 2003
                                    • 171

                                    #67
                                    well he just left probably off to get a pack of cigs this is so sad because he has made it for almost 5 days now Oh well

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                                    • NoCarrier
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                                      • Mar 2002
                                      • 16356

                                      #68
                                      The morons making jokes in this thread should think about the fact that nicotine is a legal drug addiction that will will 5 million people a year. Next time you light one. Think about the millions of families that suffered from tobacco last year..

                                      <br />

                                      On the day of Bryan's death, June 3, wife Bobbie and son Bryan keep a bedside vigil. The recent photo of father and son is on the bed.<br />
                                      <br />
                                      Bryan Curtis started smoking at 13, never thinking that 20 years later it would kill him and leave a wife and children alone. In his last weeks, <font color="red">he</font> set out with a message for young people.<br />
                                      <br />
                                      <img src="http://www.sptimes.com/News/61599/photos/flo-well.jpg" border="0" alt=""><br />
                                      <br />
                                      Bryan Lee Curtis, then 33, holds son Bryan Jr., 2, in this March 29 photo. Curtis would die about two months later. <br />
                                      <br />
                                      When I first read this article, I decided to quit smoking.<br />

                                      <br />
                                      <font color="red">He</font> <font color="red">wanted</font> you to know..<br />
                                      <br />
                                      <a href="http://www.sptimes.com/News/61599/Floridian/He_wanted_you_to_know.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.sptimes.com/News/61599/Fl..._to_know.shtml</a><br />
                                      <br />
                                      Then I used <a href="http://www.whyquit.com" target="_blank">http://www.whyquit.com</a><br />
                                      <br />
                                      <img src="http://www.sptimes.com/News/61599/photos/flo-cig.jpg" border="0" alt=""><br />
                                      <br />

                                      After the graveside service June 8, this friend and a handful of relatives light up.</font></p>
                                      Last edited by NoCarrier; 11-20-2003, 12:17 PM.

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                                      • wizz
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                                        • Jun 2003
                                        • 634

                                        #69
                                        Good Luck
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                                        • TaraD
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                                          • Nov 2003
                                          • 171

                                          #70
                                          What is sad is that is exactly what my 70 year old grandmother who just died of emphazima in august

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                                          • doober
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jul 2003
                                            • 6984

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by TaraD
                                            well he just left probably off to get a pack of cigs this is so sad because he has made it for almost 5 days now Oh well
                                            get a 2x4 and smash it over his head!!!!

                                            fuck hes half way there....no sense it going back!
                                            Shit im on day 5 with less than 45 minutes of sleep last nite and 45 minutes of cardio at the gym this morNing!

                                            ps tell him its cause of him that I quit!

                                            Support!!!!!!




                                            ps.. those pix are disturbing....

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                                            • TaraD
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Nov 2003
                                              • 171

                                              #72
                                              He hasn't opened them yet thank god so for that I am proud of him That old looking guy in the bed looks like what my grandma did right before she died Hard to bieleve he is only 33 I have been a non smoker for 6 months. I feel so much better and can breath better as well

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                                              • BrentD
                                                ZothNET.com
                                                • May 2003
                                                • 1426

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by doober


                                                get a 2x4 and smash it over his head!!!!

                                                fuck hes half way there....no sense it going back!
                                                Shit im on day 5 with less than 45 minutes of sleep last nite and 45 minutes of cardio at the gym this morNing!

                                                ps tell him its cause of him that I quit!

                                                Support!!!!!!




                                                ps.. those pix are disturbing....

                                                Yes I bought a pack, haven't had one yet, they are sitting here on my desk unopened.

                                                At least this way when I am ready to give up, if I do, I will have them right here and won't have to run out at 3am and get some.

                                                It's a proven fact that the average smoker tries to quit 12 times before succeeding.
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                                                • doober
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                  • 6984

                                                  #74
                                                  well, i can see you will be lighting up soon enough since you bought the pack, so I guess you already made a choice.

                                                  seiously consider not lighting up tho man.
                                                  its an endless battle, you need to try and keep so fucking busy that you dont even have a chnace to light up..hell i havent smoked anything in 4 days and I usually smoke a pack and a couple spliffs a day. Do some exercise while your at it....in 5 more days you will feel alot better and i mean a hell of alot better!

                                                  It will still hurt but it will dimish a little...it will always be a struggle tho, best to keep that in mind.
                                                  The only time i have been craving a smoke is late a t night cause i cant fuckign sleep anymore..waking up in cold sweats and shit...
                                                  o god what a nightmare, fuck i cant even relax anymore and its only been a few days.

                                                  btw i have quit 3-4 times before but never for more than 6 mnths... i think im done tho, my mind wants it - so it will get it -


                                                  btw

                                                  Fight The Cravings and good luck!

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                                                  • Dwreck
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                                                    • Nov 2002
                                                    • 7362

                                                    #75
                                                    Good read! I gotta quit.
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                                                    • american pervert
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                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                      • 6840

                                                      #76
                                                      www.10packs.com
                                                      I can resist everything except temptation

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                                                      • TaraD
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Nov 2003
                                                        • 171

                                                        #77
                                                        if he wouldnt sit infront of the computer 24/7 he wouldnt feel so tempted I would go walk with him if he wanted to

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                                                        • mryellow
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                                                          • May 2001
                                                          • 934

                                                          #78
                                                          Valerian and St Johns Wort are a good natural help to relax your
                                                          jaw and get rid of the constant tension of the crave. Once this
                                                          has past the rest is fairly easy, just gotta never smoke ever
                                                          again... ever again... ever again.

                                                          Make sure you get quality extracts tho, most pills are just a scam
                                                          with nothing much really in them. Thursday Plantation here in
                                                          Australia has great quality stuff.

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                                                          • mryellow
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                                                            • May 2001
                                                            • 934

                                                            #79
                                                            p.s. Don't take St Johns Wort with party drugs. It's kinda like an
                                                            MAOI.

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                                                            • doober
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                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                              • 6984

                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by TaraD
                                                              if he wouldnt sit infront of the computer 24/7 he wouldnt feel so tempted I would go walk with him if he wanted to
                                                              make him MOVE!!!!
                                                              Hell go places you cant smoke and keep busy, im telling you when your busy and dont have time it helps ease the situation and the time passes.
                                                              Try going to the movies twice a day if you have to lol...( cant smoke there)

                                                              It doesnt make it easier but it does make time lapse faster and hours turn into days...next thing you know its been a week...
                                                              Ive been craving like mad, but i just wont give in!!!!

                                                              i saved 40$ already in 4 days!
                                                              hell that like 4k a year!
                                                              tobacco companies dont really need my money to make money, but they sure are lining it their pockets well with everyone elses little daily contribution...



                                                              ps i still have half a pack of smokes at home, so having them doesnt mean you need to smoke em...keep that pack closed and your hands and minds BUSY!

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                                                              • BrentD
                                                                ZothNET.com
                                                                • May 2003
                                                                • 1426

                                                                #81
                                                                I did over the past 4 days of not smoking figure out the perfect honest quit smoking slogan there is:


                                                                "Stop smoking today so you can eat yourself to death instead"

                                                                What fucking good is it if you quit smoking only to eat yourself up to 500-600lbs and then die of a heart attack?

                                                                No plans on opening the pack of cigs I bought unless the wife pisses me off good then I will smoke one;)
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                                                                • TaraD
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                                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                                  • 171

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Hey you have to admit I have been doing pretty damn good considering some of the shit you have said / called me over the past 5 days ROFLMAO Normally I would have killed you by now but today you just pissed me off and both our tempers together clash big time which sux ass. I am Italian/Irish/Polish and he is italian/Irish/Indiana

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                                                                  • Greg B
                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                    • 7014

                                                                    #83
                                                                    COLD FUCKING TURKEY...


                                                                    Nicotine is the most addictive substance known to man.

                                                                    I've seen junkies quit smack and crack and do okay but you try to make them stop smoking and you've got a fight on your hands!

                                                                    Smoking should be outlawed. Plain and simple. But because he tobacco companies funnel so much money and dumbass trailer locals say stupid shit like,

                                                                    " Tobacco put food on the table! "

                                                                    Fuck that.

                                                                    I had to go through a 3 step plan to not stop smoking but to CONTOL it.

                                                                    I can start and stop and that's the big first step. I can do without them and don't chain smoke. Controlling your habit is the first big step to stopping without going nuts.

                                                                    Take a notepad with you and jot down WHEN you smoke. Time etc. Then jot down WHY you just smoked ( i.e. had a great meal, got pissed off etc. ). If the answer is emotional like anger, stress then it's compulsive. That's the dangerous cycle. That gets you because you do it on reflex instead of choice. It's your body craving it to the point that it's beyond your concious control, the most dangerous of habits.

                                                                    So you have to first CONTROL when and why you light up and then gradually wean the body to enjoy NOT smoking so that the body will then reject everytime YOU do.

                                                                    Once control is established you're on your way to either cutting back greatly or stopping cold turkey.

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                                                                    • aimar78
                                                                      Registered User
                                                                      • Sep 2003
                                                                      • 69

                                                                      #84
                                                                      I quit smoking 2 months ago.

                                                                      Its very simple.

                                                                      To be able to quit you have to stop saying "That wont happen to me" or "I wont get cancer till im 70" etc. You have to take the threat to your health very seriously and realize that if you dont quit your lifes going to be cut short and you're going to die a very slow and agonising death in your 30's or 40's.

                                                                      After you've taken that threat seriously enough, quitting is easy.

                                                                      I used the nicotine gums to help me quit.

                                                                      Also I stopped drinking coffee indefinately, and alcahol temporatily.
                                                                      If you want to quit you really want to stay away from alcahol & coffee.
                                                                      Last edited by aimar78; 11-20-2003, 06:14 PM.

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                                                                      • partytime
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                                                                        • Sep 2003
                                                                        • 258

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Good job. Post again when it is 1 month.

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                                                                        • Odin88
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                                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                                          • 3267

                                                                          #86
                                                                          Goodluck, it's hard but I know a few people who have managed it. Worse part is though that 90% of them start it up again.

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                                                                          • doober
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                                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                                            • 6984

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Day 5 im not sure but i may be starting to feel somewhat normal again, cravings still there but they are diminishing i think...

                                                                            Brent is that pack still closed????

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                                                                            • BrentD
                                                                              ZothNET.com
                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                              • 1426

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by aimar78
                                                                              I quit smoking 2 months ago.

                                                                              Its very simple.

                                                                              To be able to quit you have to stop saying "That wont happen to me" or "I wont get cancer till im 70" etc. You have to take the threat to your health very seriously and realize that if you dont quit your lifes going to be cut short and you're going to die a very slow and agonising death in your 30's or 40's.

                                                                              After you've taken that threat seriously enough, quitting is easy.

                                                                              I used the nicotine gums to help me quit.

                                                                              Also I stopped drinking coffee indefinately, and alcahol temporatily.
                                                                              If you want to quit you really want to stay away from alcahol & coffee.

                                                                              I am already 36 and I have smoked for 25 years now. Coffee is my substitute right now for a cigarette, I only drink 2 cups of coffee when I egt up and then sometimes 2 cups in the evening, but not always.
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                                                                              • BrentD
                                                                                ZothNET.com
                                                                                • May 2003
                                                                                • 1426

                                                                                #89
                                                                                4d 11:52 smoke-free, 128 cigs not smoked, $17.92 saved, 10:40 life saved


                                                                                Pack still closed


                                                                                I am not getting better myself, the cravings seem to increase not decrease, my body feels as if its hot and sweating but I am not sweating.

                                                                                I am trying to hang in there but its not getting easier day by day like people say it does, it gets worse day by day, teh first day was so easy, the 2nd day was a little harder and now on the 5th day its fucking crazy ass hard.

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                                                                                • BrentD
                                                                                  ZothNET.com
                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                  • 1426

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  hmmmmm, was jsut adding it up....

                                                                                  I have smoked 25 years, I smoke an average of 30 cigs a day (1.5 packs) and at todays prices it would have worked otu like this:

                                                                                  $30.00 per carton x 4 cartons a month x 12 months a year x 25 years

                                                                                  $1440.00 a year x 25 years smoking = $36,000.00 spent on cigarettes

                                                                                  Not to mention the cost of lighters
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                                                                                  • rooster
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                                                                                    • Jan 2003
                                                                                    • 2384

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    ive heard the body is only physically addicted to nicotein like 3 days after quiting, and then the cravings are just mental.
                                                                                    Ever notice that pretty much everything added to the Constitution after the original was a mistake.

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                                                                                    • Krome
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                                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                                      • 2851

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      I like this quest to give up smoking I have joined the battle as well...no cigs for me all day today....

                                                                                      When I saw the picture of that guy dead that kinda shocked my bollocks off...plus the girl in the off license has put up a sign by the cigarettes "Why not try one of our novelty life threatening products - Give these a bash and maybe you will catch cancer" - I hate buying cigarettes off her...

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                                                                                      • Krome
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                                                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                                                        • 2851

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Originally posted by BrentD
                                                                                        hmmmmm, was jsut adding it up....

                                                                                        I have smoked 25 years, I smoke an average of 30 cigs a day (1.5 packs) and at todays prices it would have worked otu like this:

                                                                                        $30.00 per carton x 4 cartons a month x 12 months a year x 25 years

                                                                                        $1440.00 a year x 25 years smoking = $36,000.00 spent on cigarettes

                                                                                        Not to mention the cost of lighters
                                                                                        How much is it per pack? In the UK we pay $8 per pack.

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                                                                                        • doober
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                                                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                                                          • 6984

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Originally posted by Krome


                                                                                          How much is it per pack? In the UK we pay $8 per pack.
                                                                                          when i was in the states a month ago the packs where about $4.50-$5

                                                                                          according to his calculations tho they are 3$ cause theres 200 cigs in a cartoon and 10 packs per US carton.

                                                                                          In montreal right now they cost between $8.50 to $9.50 depending where you are. Fucking expensive if you ask me...

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                                                                                          • Krome
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                                                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                                                            • 2851

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Originally posted by doober

                                                                                            In montreal right now they cost between $8.50 to $9.50 depending where you are. Fucking expensive if you ask me...
                                                                                            Small price to pay to avoid being in America and surrounded by Americans...

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                                                                                            • msg
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                                                              • 293

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Pack still closed


                                                                                              I am not getting better myself, the cravings seem to increase not decrease, my body feels as if its hot and sweating but I am not sweating.

                                                                                              I am trying to hang in there but its not getting easier day by day like people say it does, it gets worse day by day, teh first day was so easy, the 2nd day was a little harder and now on the 5th day its fucking crazy ass hard.

                                                                                              [/B][/QUOTE]

                                                                                              well having a pack of cigarettes right in front of you would certainly make the cravings worse. You say well I dont want to freak out at 3am and have to drive, but that drive might just help you quit.. I know I couldnt quit until every last cigarette was smoked, and I couldnt be around them for atleast a month.

                                                                                              I think coffee is a bad thing to be drinking as well, I believe caffiene and alcohol make the cravings stronger

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                                                                                              • BrentD
                                                                                                ZothNET.com
                                                                                                • May 2003
                                                                                                • 1426

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Originally posted by Krome


                                                                                                How much is it per pack? In the UK we pay $8 per pack.
                                                                                                $2.89 to $3.49 per pack depending on what brand you smoke. I usually get Camel Lights Box for $2.99 to $3.29 per pack or $28.00 per carton.
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