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  • Ic3m4nZ
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2003
    • 6285

    #51
    50 sites hijacked

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    • chemicaleyes
      UNSTOPPABLE
      • Aug 2003
      • 11569

      #52
      Originally posted by Ic3m4nZ
      50 sites hijacked
      or being redirected?
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      • Rich
        So Fucking Banned
        • Jan 2003
        • 11486

        #53
        You guys seem to surprised that a sponsor is stealing traffic. Why, because they run a message board?

        If you're going to be an affiliate of almost any adult program get used to being fucked over on a daily basis.

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        • Peterson
          Confirmed User
          • Jan 2003
          • 189

          #54
          Originally posted by chemicaleyes
          where are you?
          im from Brazil and redirected 4 dialers

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          • Brad-Wishing
            Confirmed User
            • Oct 2003
            • 2415

            #55
            Links here are still wonky as hell.
            SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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            • Tipsy
              Confirmed User
              • Jul 2001
              • 6989

              #56
              Always amazes me that anyone is stupid enough to redirect UK traffic. The dialler payouts for UK may be high but UK surfers also have credit cards and use them far more than they'll dial into a £2 a min service.
              Ignorance is never bliss.

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              • chemicaleyes
                UNSTOPPABLE
                • Aug 2003
                • 11569

                #57
                Originally posted by Rich
                You guys seem to surprised that a sponsor is stealing traffic. Why, because they run a message board?

                If you're going to be an affiliate of almost any adult program get used to being fucked over on a daily basis.
                not exactly surprised but want, them to admit it if they are and sort it out
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                • JDog
                  Confirmed User
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 7453

                  #58
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                  • integrated
                    Confirmed User
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 3826

                    #59
                    interesting

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                    • chemicaleyes
                      UNSTOPPABLE
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 11569

                      #60
                      Originally posted by Tipsy
                      Always amazes me that anyone is stupid enough to redirect UK traffic. The dialler payouts for UK may be high but UK surfers also have credit cards and use them far more than they'll dial into a £2 a min service.
                      Exactly, If the UK were as big as the US we would make far more income online People stop fucking with UK traffic
                      No way as way, No limitation as limitation. AmeriNOC formally PhatServers

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                      • J B
                        Confirmed User
                        • May 2002
                        • 1804

                        #61
                        Originally posted by feN


                        t-online
                        I'm using t-online (dsl) as well and I don't get redirected...


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                        • SR
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jul 2001
                          • 2239

                          #62
                          Originally posted by Tipsy
                          Always amazes me that anyone is stupid enough to redirect UK traffic. The dialler payouts for UK may be high but UK surfers also have credit cards and use them far more than they'll dial into a £2 a min service.
                          Yeps UK traffic is great for most sites/products.
                          Lets hope it won't get ruined by slapping them with 10 dialer windows everytime they click an ad.

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                          • chemicaleyes
                            UNSTOPPABLE
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 11569

                            #63
                            Originally posted by J B


                            I'm using t-online (dsl) as well and I don't get redirected...
                            it all depends on I don't know? but sometimes I can click a link 20 or so x and not get redirected, click another one and get no redirecting and then click the first one again and get redirected first time..
                            No way as way, No limitation as limitation. AmeriNOC formally PhatServers

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                            • swedguy
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jan 2002
                              • 7981

                              #64
                              I just tried with en-us, en-gb, sv, de and couple of other languages and no problems.

                              I tried through a Chinese, Dutch, UK, Brazil and Swedish proxy and no problems.

                              $2 that you got hit by the new Internet Explorer vulnerability and a new spyware got installed that Ad-Aware on those haven't found out about yet.

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                              • chemicaleyes
                                UNSTOPPABLE
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 11569

                                #65
                                Originally posted by swedguy
                                I just tried with en-us, en-gb, sv, de and couple of other languages and no problems.

                                I tried through a Chinese, Dutch, UK, Brazil and Swedish proxy and no problems.

                                $2 that you got hit by the new Internet Explorer vulnerability and a new spyware got installed that Ad-Aware on those haven't found out about yet.
                                may be?
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                                • roly
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Aug 2002
                                  • 1844

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by swedguy
                                  I just tried with en-us, en-gb, sv, de and couple of other languages and no problems.

                                  I tried through a Chinese, Dutch, UK, Brazil and Swedish proxy and no problems.

                                  $2 that you got hit by the new Internet Explorer vulnerability and a new spyware got installed that Ad-Aware on those haven't found out about yet.
                                  it's nothing to do with vunerability's, it's the sponsor redirecting to a dialer, that's obvious.

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                                  • Kick Ass Chat
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Dec 2002
                                    • 2057

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by Rich
                                    You guys seem to surprised that a sponsor is stealing traffic. Why, because they run a message board?

                                    If you're going to be an affiliate of almost any adult program get used to being fucked over on a daily basis.
                                    BINGO........sad, but true
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                                    • Lensman
                                      GFY Chaperone
                                      • Jan 2001
                                      • 9846

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by pantymaniac
                                      i clicked 10 times not redirected TURKEY
                                      We don't redirect. Just look at all the int'l guys who are not redirected. You guys have spyware.

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                                      • Mr.Fiction
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Feb 2002
                                        • 9484

                                        #69
                                        Someone should contact the dialers or do some research and try to find out who's getting paid on the redirected traffic.

                                        I'm sure that won't be easy.
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                                        • chemicaleyes
                                          UNSTOPPABLE
                                          • Aug 2003
                                          • 11569

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by Lensman


                                          We don't redirect. Just look at all the int'l guys who are not redirected. You guys have spyware.
                                          Lens can you icq me or email me office-AT-eadultbiz.co.uk so I can reply to something that will not get stuck in a spam filter
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                                          • Peterson
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jan 2003
                                            • 189

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by swedguy
                                            I just tried with en-us, en-gb, sv, de and couple of other languages and no problems.

                                            I tried through a Chinese, Dutch, UK, Brazil and Swedish proxy and no problems.

                                            $2 that you got hit by the new Internet Explorer vulnerability and a new spyware got installed that Ad-Aware on those haven't found out about yet.
                                            use an anonymous proxy

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                                            • richard
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Feb 2001
                                              • 543

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by Lensman


                                              We don't redirect. Just look at all the int'l guys who are not redirected. You guys have spyware.
                                              Theory:

                                              I installed a Deltino (The netpond dialer / run by Meat/Aga) dialer to examine how it interacts with the surfer. (its a nasty bitch that disables ctrl+alt+del ).

                                              I have had some other UK friends test the links, and they do not get redirected. Friends who did not install a Deltino/Netpond dialer.

                                              I propose that those people getting redirected, have at one time installed a Netpond dialer. Netpond dialer is now redirecting Lensman's traffic for him.

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                                              • chemicaleyes
                                                UNSTOPPABLE
                                                • Aug 2003
                                                • 11569

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by richard


                                                Theory:

                                                I installed a Deltino (The netpond dialer / run by Meat/Aga) dialer to examine how it interacts with the surfer. (its a nasty bitch that disables ctrl+alt+del ).

                                                I have had some other UK friends test the links, and they do not get redirected. Friends who did not install a Deltino/Netpond dialer.

                                                I propose that those people getting redirected, have at one time installed a Netpond dialer. Netpond dialer is now redirecting Lensman's traffic for him.

                                                I have NEVER installed a Netpond dialer on any system of mine.
                                                No way as way, No limitation as limitation. AmeriNOC formally PhatServers

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                                                • richard
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                  • 543

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by chemicaleyes
                                                  I have NEVER installed a Netpond dialer on any system of mine.
                                                  Holistyc dialer?

                                                  i didn't say i was right, just giving a suggestion as to why we are being redirected.

                                                  I'm installing opera now...

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                                                  • chemicaleyes
                                                    UNSTOPPABLE
                                                    • Aug 2003
                                                    • 11569

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by richard


                                                    Holistyc dialer?

                                                    i didn't say i was right, just giving a suggestion as to why we are being redirected.

                                                    I'm installing opera now...
                                                    I know it was a suggestion, I'm just saying that I've never installed a Netpond dialer
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                                                    • chemicaleyes
                                                      UNSTOPPABLE
                                                      • Aug 2003
                                                      • 11569

                                                      #76
                                                      ok so when whatever can't tell where I am from using an anonymous proxy with approx 50-70 clicks to different sites 1 redirect to a different page than either of the 2 that I have had come up so far
                                                      No way as way, No limitation as limitation. AmeriNOC formally PhatServers

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                                                      • richard
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Feb 2001
                                                        • 543

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by chemicaleyes
                                                        ok so when whatever can't tell where I am from using an anonymous proxy with approx 50-70 clicks to different sites 1 redirect to a different page than either of the 2 that I have had come up so far
                                                        English Motherfucker, DO YOU SPEAK IT?

                                                        I'm using a "fully patched" version of IE, with no adaware found spyware, and i get redirected.

                                                        In Opera, i don't get redirected.

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                                                        • MetaMan
                                                          I AM WEB 2.0
                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                          • 28682

                                                          #78
                                                          DIALER OWNZ UK

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                                                          • chemicaleyes
                                                            UNSTOPPABLE
                                                            • Aug 2003
                                                            • 11569

                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by richard


                                                            English Motherfucker, DO YOU SPEAK IT?

                                                            I'm using a "fully patched" version of IE, with no adaware found spyware, and i get redirected.

                                                            In Opera, i don't get redirected.
                                                            speak english sometimes ok then, richard you on icq?
                                                            No way as way, No limitation as limitation. AmeriNOC formally PhatServers

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                                                            • Lensman
                                                              GFY Chaperone
                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                              • 9846

                                                              #80
                                                              Post the url that you get redirected to.

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                                                              • Tipsy
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Jul 2001
                                                                • 6989

                                                                #81
                                                                As I said I don't get redirected and geo stuff usually redirects me with no trouble because the peopl running it don't appreciate the true value of uk traffic.

                                                                Has to be spyware crap. I presume you've checked your hosts file?
                                                                Ignorance is never bliss.

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                                                                • richard
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                                  • 543

                                                                  #82
                                                                  My icq is 41012160.

                                                                  Lensman - the url contains hex encoded chars that'll probaby fubar the link. So i put it in a text file:

                                                                  http://gibhar.com/richard/link4lens.txt

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                                                                  • chemicaleyes
                                                                    UNSTOPPABLE
                                                                    • Aug 2003
                                                                    • 11569

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by Lensman
                                                                    Post the url that you get redirected to.
                                                                    http:/ /ww w.premium rated content.c om/ars/sites/amateur/? affid=1011382%3A1585%3A339%3A1069275150%3A57709400
                                                                    %3A1345253299&lang=&a=1011382& adtrax=1585%3A339%3A1069275150%3A57709400%3A134525
                                                                    3299

                                                                    not had a problem with spyware before, but am still checking things and cleaning
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                                                                    • Lensman
                                                                      GFY Chaperone
                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                      • 9846

                                                                      #84
                                                                      OK, figured it out. We put up the ADS dialer a couple of days ago, and one of our guys put a language redirector for inbound traffic on one of the servers. It' supposed to only be on exits. The good news is that it was only on one of the three gateway servers, so most traffic was not effected.

                                                                      It's fixed. Great catch chemicaleyes. It had us fooled, because the one guy in our office who did it didn't synch the other servers to it.

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                                                                      • chemicaleyes
                                                                        UNSTOPPABLE
                                                                        • Aug 2003
                                                                        • 11569

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by Lensman
                                                                        OK, figured it out. We put up the ADS dialer a couple of days ago, and one of our guys put a language redirector for inbound traffic on one of the servers. It' supposed to only be on exits. The good news is that it was only on one of the three gateway servers, so most traffic was not effected.

                                                                        It's fixed. Great catch chemicaleyes. It had us fooled, because the one guy in our office who did it didn't synch the other servers to it.
                                                                        Great, made about 30-40 clicks and No redirecting anymore
                                                                        No way as way, No limitation as limitation. AmeriNOC formally PhatServers

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                                                                        • MicDoohan
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Apr 2003
                                                                          • 791

                                                                          #86
                                                                          Originally posted by Lensman
                                                                          OK, figured it out. We put up the ADS dialer a couple of days ago, and one of our guys put a language redirector for inbound traffic on one of the servers. It' supposed to only be on exits. The good news is that it was only on one of the three gateway servers, so most traffic was not effected.

                                                                          It's fixed. Great catch chemicaleyes. It had us fooled, because the one guy in our office who did it didn't synch the other servers to it.
                                                                          Hey Chief - better go get your man to sort out AP now - I'm in Australia and im getting redirected to your dialer as well.

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                                                                          • Smokey The Bear
                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                            • Oct 2003
                                                                            • 786

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Its a common trick i have noticed lately with dialers that do the geo redirecting themselves. They like to slip some past from normal areas and sludge the traffic. Then they sell off the dialer popup's to hijack the browser to a third party to boot.

                                                                            I noticed this on a bunch of other sponsors lately as well. I wouldnt let the dialers have control unless your monitoring them closely.

                                                                            Tip#1 dont let someone else control your traffic unless your in on the code.

                                                                            Tip#2 watch them like hawks.

                                                                            Im not dissing your sponsor lens , but i have noticed this problem with other sponsors. Suddenly canadians and brits and australians will be redirected for no reason.

                                                                            Its almost like they are doing it on purpose because they know the people checking will be doing it from the usa.

                                                                            Hell it could just be an honest mistake that i happened to notice on 3 seperate sponsors

                                                                            But it seems very suspicious. Like if i cut a deal with you to redirect your traffic that you cant process anyways thru cc card for a certain cut. Who is to say i dont add some ip ranges from good areas to boost my traffic/sales. How would you know ? You wouldnt . Until people started noticing it. With all the hijacking going on , most sponsors might just figure its a hijack or a fluke. And surfers wont know the difference , the only people who would complain is webmasters who are checking links. Again it doesnt affect everyone so just a small percentage of people get ripped and dont realise it, or write it off as an error , come back 2 days later and it works again so they dont bother complaining.

                                                                            Just my opinion though and no particular slant against ads

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                                                                            • Theo
                                                                              HAL 9000
                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                              • 34515

                                                                              #88
                                                                              all good here (greece)

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                                                                              • MicDoohan
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Apr 2003
                                                                                • 791

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Well said dude

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                                                                                • skillfull
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                                  • 4716

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by Smokey The Bear
                                                                                  Its a common trick i have noticed lately with dialers that do the geo redirecting themselves. They like to slip some past from normal areas and sludge the traffic. Then they sell off the dialer popup's to hijack the browser to a third party to boot.

                                                                                  I noticed this on a bunch of other sponsors lately as well. I wouldnt let the dialers have control unless your monitoring them closely.

                                                                                  Tip#1 dont let someone else control your traffic unless your in on the code.

                                                                                  Tip#2 watch them like hawks.

                                                                                  Im not dissing your sponsor lens , but i have noticed this problem with other sponsors. Suddenly canadians and brits and australians will be redirected for no reason.

                                                                                  Its almost like they are doing it on purpose because they know the people checking will be doing it from the usa.

                                                                                  Hell it could just be an honest mistake that i happened to notice on 3 seperate sponsors

                                                                                  But it seems very suspicious. Like if i cut a deal with you to redirect your traffic that you cant process anyways thru cc card for a certain cut. Who is to say i dont add some ip ranges from good areas to boost my traffic/sales. How would you know ? You wouldnt . Until people started noticing it. With all the hijacking going on , most sponsors might just figure its a hijack or a fluke. And surfers wont know the difference , the only people who would complain is webmasters who are checking links. Again it doesnt affect everyone so just a small percentage of people get ripped and dont realise it, or write it off as an error , come back 2 days later and it works again so they dont bother complaining.

                                                                                  Just my opinion though and no particular slant against ads
                                                                                  amen to that
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