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  • StuartD
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    • Jul 2002
    • 29903
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    Science people, can you answer this question?

    Punker Barbie's energy thread reminded me of this.... back in school, our science teacher taught us that all molecules in everything is in constant motion. Gases move further apart than solids... which move very little.

    Well, my question was... what if they stop?

    Let's say your computer desk... sitting right in front of you... what would happen if you could zap it with a ray or something and suddenly every single molecule in it would stop where it is.

    What would happen to the desk??

    My science teacher couldn't answer it.
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    • lilj
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      • Dec 2003
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        • Phoenix
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          • Nov 2002
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          #3
          it would still be frozen

          moelcules slow down as they reach ultimate zero..i cant hink it would be any different

          not like they would suddenly open up and you could pass your hand through them
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            • KRosh
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              • Nov 2001
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              #4
              Originally posted by MaskedMan
              Punker Barbie's energy thread reminded me of this.... back in school, our science teacher taught us that all molecules in everything is in constant motion. Gases move further apart than solids... which move very little.

              Well, my question was... what if they stop?

              Let's say your computer desk... sitting right in front of you... what would happen if you could zap it with a ray or something and suddenly every single molecule in it would stop where it is.

              What would happen to the desk??

              My science teacher couldn't answer it.

              If molecules stop..they can no longer stay bonded..so I would say that your desk would dissapear

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                • KRL
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                  • Oct 2002
                  • 31429
                  #5
                  Your reality of it would be altered. That is all.

                  Everything is just sensations upon your senses. What you are reading now are just molecules on a display screen in motion on your desk.

                  There is really nothing in life except atoms, molecules, electrons, etc.

                  All we are is dust in the wind as Fletch would say.
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                    • Phoenix
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                      • Nov 2002
                      • 35475
                      #6
                      Originally posted by KRosh
                      If molecules stop..they can no longer stay bonded..so I would say that your desk would dissapear
                      that was my other thought..that the movement was what gives it substance

                      this is a great thread


                      im going to grab my physics books down...lol
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                        • kush
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                          • Feb 2001
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                          #7
                          Originally posted by KRosh
                          If molecules stop..they can no longer stay bonded..so I would say that your desk would dissapear
                          Yup.

                          The desk would fall apart into atomic waste

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                            • StuartD
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                              • Jul 2002
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                              #8
                              Originally posted by KRosh
                              If molecules stop..they can no longer stay bonded..so I would say that your desk would dissapear
                              Exactly what I thought... but then, the mass can't just cease to exist... so logically it would fall to the ground in a pile, but then... that would involve motion once again and what ever it becomes at that point, would mean the molecules must be in motion.... but, they can't be.
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                                • MrIzzz
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                                  • Sep 2003
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                                  #9
                                  i think you should ask beaker



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                                    • Jakke PNG
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                                      • Nov 2001
                                      • 20306
                                      #10
                                      As far as I remember the slower the molecules move the harder the matter is.
                                      So basically it would be solid. Dunno about how fragile it would be.. could be that it would just shatter to millions of pieces.. or disappear.. or turn into a duck and fly away.. fuck if I know.

                                      ..and I'm off.

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                                        • Phoenix
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                                          • Nov 2002
                                          • 35475
                                          #11
                                          things dont just disappear

                                          granted there is a large amount of space between the molecules, but that is relative not like you could see the oepn space with your eye even if all motion was stopped.



                                          it would become frozen, as i said before


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                                            • StuartD
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                                              • Jul 2002
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                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by Phoenix
                                              things dont just disappear

                                              granted there is a large amount of space between the molecules, but that is relative not like you could see the oepn space with your eye even if all motion was stopped.



                                              it would become frozen, as i said before


                                              final answer
                                              but how could it hold it's shape and mass together without the friction of motion?
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                                                • KRosh
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                                                  • Nov 2001
                                                  • 5114
                                                  #13
                                                  this is a difficult one to answer for sure....


                                                  The molecules "within" the desk (the solid) if they stop...this is known as Diffusin. It can not stay a solid .. the molecules in the air would still be moving ....


                                                  But the confusing part is .. are you stopping the travel of the electrons within the atom ??

                                                  This is giving me a headache.. I will get back to you !!!


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                                                    • Meta Ridley
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                                                      • Sep 2003
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                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Phoenix


                                                      it would become frozen, as i said before


                                                      final answer
                                                      Absolute zero is when molecular motion stops. Im going with him on this.


                                                      There is NO OTHER answer. It would be frozen.
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                                                        • Tom_PMs
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                                                          • Jun 2004
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                                                          #15
                                                          Hell if I know, lol

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                                                            • KRosh
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                                                              • Nov 2001
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                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Phoenix
                                                              things dont just disappear

                                                              granted there is a large amount of space between the molecules, but that is relative not like you could see the oepn space with your eye even if all motion was stopped.



                                                              it would become frozen, as i said before


                                                              final answer
                                                              well


                                                              the theory of a black hole.. one theory that i have come up with .. is absolute vaccum. In the presence of absolute vaccum atoms can not bond therefore objects would split in to their smallest form...the atom which we can not see with our eyes

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                                                                • StuartD
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                                                                  • Jul 2002
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                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by Meta Ridley
                                                                  Absolute zero is when molecular motion stops. Im going with him on this.


                                                                  There is NO OTHER answer. It would be frozen.
                                                                  Well, that's all well and good, but since absolute zero hasn't really been acheived yet... no one really knows what would happen to a substance when it hit that point.

                                                                  That's what I want to know... what would happen to water if you froze it to absolute zero? Would it still just be ice? or... something else?
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                                                                    • KRosh
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                                                                      • Nov 2001
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                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Meta Ridley
                                                                      Absolute zero is when molecular motion stops. Im going with him on this.


                                                                      There is NO OTHER answer. It would be frozen.

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                                                                      In all materials, a point is eventually reached at which all oscillations are the slowest they can possibly be. The temperature which corresponds to this point is called absolute zero. Oscillations never come to a complete stop, even at absolute zero.
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                                                                        • Phoenix
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                                                                          • Nov 2002
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                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by MaskedMan
                                                                          but how could it hold it's shape and mass together without the friction of motion?
                                                                          well motion is not what holds it together..it is the electric bonds between the moelcules and atoms etc.

                                                                          carbon bonds hold the desk together, i dontknow why they would just break apart if stopped, the electrical force which pushes the system would still be there...i think it would just be frozen

                                                                          http://chem.ufl.edu/~itl/4412_aa/ccbond.html

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                                                                            • sacX
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                                                                              #20
                                                                              by molecules you mean sub-atomic particles. Molecules by themselves don't really move it's the parts that do.
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                                                                                • Elli
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                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by MrIzzz
                                                                                  i think you should ask beaker
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                                                                                  Before I read the thread, I would say it would fall into molecules on the floor, but of course that would mean they were still in motion.

                                                                                  Soo... it must be frozen, but in such a state that the molecules are no longer bound together. They simply exist in their one spot, which happens to be where they were frozen.
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                                                                                    • NickPapageorgio
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                                                                                      • Apr 2004
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                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by MaskedMan
                                                                                      Exactly what I thought... but then, the mass can't just cease to exist... so logically it would fall to the ground in a pile, but then... that would involve motion once again and what ever it becomes at that point, would mean the molecules must be in motion.... but, they can't be.
                                                                                      I don't think by the molecules falling they are actually exerting any energy. They are falling on the borrowed energy of gravity. In a zero gravity environment however, I suppose the desk would appear to be solid until you touched it. And then it would move because you transfered the energy of the motion of your hand to the dead molecules. Not bringing them to life perse but instead bumping them into each other causing a wave like effect.

                                                                                      ...But then that's just a guess.

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                                                                                        • baddog
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                                                                                          • Apr 2001
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by MaskedMan

                                                                                          Well, my question was... what if they stop?

                                                                                          Let's say your computer desk... sitting right in front of you... what would happen if you could zap it with a ray or something and suddenly every single molecule in it would stop where it is.

                                                                                          What would happen to the desk??
                                                                                          9 out of 10 times it would turn into a horse.

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                                                                                            • StuartD
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                                                                                              • Jul 2002
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                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                              9 out of 10 times it would turn into a horse.
                                                                                              See, I never would have thought of that, but now that you mention it, that has to be it!
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                                                                                                • baddog
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                                                                                                  • Apr 2001
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                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by MaskedMan
                                                                                                  See, I never would have thought of that, but now that you mention it, that has to be it!
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