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  • NiTe-HaWk
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    • Jul 2003
    • 1196

    #51
    please tell me that google isn't done
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    • gornyhuy
      Chafed.
      • May 2002
      • 18041

      #52
      I can't tell yet, but I think I am screwed... well, neutral which is the same as screwed.

      I have MANY high quality crosslinked sites with high relavency etc and I know they have been super spidered, but they are just not showing up in the index AT ALL. So I do think that google has gone back to an older archive for the time being. WTF?

      I find it hard to believe that anchor text can be penalized... that is one of the only ways to actually determine link relevancy/accuracy...

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      • Adultnet
        Confirmed User
        • Sep 2003
        • 8713

        #53
        It will be nice if google remove all the cheaters from the key spots...

        They use a really cool engine right now that is hard to cheat or control but seems they need to improve it a bit.


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        • - Jesus Christ -
          Confirmed User
          • Mar 2003
          • 7197

          #54
          Some of my shit droped from positon 60 to position 540
          and its not spam.

          Some ofther stuff that IS spammy went up from 300 to 87.

          Oh well.

          Amen

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          • Troels
            Confirmed User
            • May 2002
            • 1035

            #55
            Originally posted by Shoplifter
            It looks like they are penalizing for anchor text spamming. Still looking to see what is up.
            Damn you're so wrong.


            On another note, why isn't this thread more popular?
            Tells you a bit about the people on GFY...
            If this was a thread about TGP's requiring 120 height thumbnails instead of 125 height thumbnails you'd be seeing a 16 page thread....

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            • Troels
              Confirmed User
              • May 2002
              • 1035

              #56
              Originally posted by Odin88
              Spammers still own the terms I am after. Even more so now. Some legitimate sites that were on the frontpage have dropped back 100-150 results.
              Odin give me an icq and I'll share some tips.

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              • titmowse
                Confirmed User
                • Jan 2001
                • 5320

                #57
                Originally posted by Troels


                Damn you're so wrong.


                On another note, why isn't this thread more popular?
                Tells you a bit about the people on GFY...
                If this was a thread about TGP's requiring 120 height thumbnails instead of 125 height thumbnails you'd be seeing a 16 page thread....

                Serge is, and has always been, right.
                i've noticed. i had a site that was #1 for it's keyword on google since i put the darned thing up. then one day, blammo. it fell off google search results completely. i looked at every "o".

                so i messed with the keywords in my meta tags and it went up to third place. then it fell off again so i reworked my keywords again and it came back to the top, and then it dissappeared but it's back at #1 tonight.

                what's this about different servers? am i merely connecting to a different google server when i go there each time?
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                • Theo
                  HAL 9000
                  • May 2001
                  • 34515

                  #58
                  all good here.

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                  • Troels
                    Confirmed User
                    • May 2002
                    • 1035

                    #59
                    If your site is new that might explain it.
                    New sites seem to wander around abit.

                    Is your site new? Changes new?
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                    • titmowse
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jan 2001
                      • 5320

                      #60
                      oh, and i don't think that i'm being penalized by google for spamminess. maybe i am but golly. my domain is a one-word typo. the site name is the same as the domain. i have actual readable content on it.

                      the sites that get listed above me are freeking spam-o-rific cerkle jerks, and one non-adult page.
                      I still love everybody

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                      • chowda
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 9527

                        #61
                        Originally posted by Troels


                        Odin give me an icq and I'll share some tips.

                        4 4 9 5 7 5 5 1
                        damn, can i get some tips too?
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                        • Odin88
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 3267

                          #62
                          Odin give me an icq and I'll share some tips.

                          4 4 9 5 7 5 5 1.
                          Just added you. Thanks.

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                          • titmowse
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jan 2001
                            • 5320

                            #63
                            Originally posted by Troels
                            If your site is new that might explain it.
                            New sites seem to wander around abit.

                            Is your site new? Changes new?
                            who? me?

                            my site will have been up a year this january. it was #1 for all this time and then. about two weeks ago, nuthin. it completely fell off.
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                            • - Jesus Christ -
                              Confirmed User
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 7197

                              #64
                              What ive found crazy is I had a long term listing at the 78 spot for a nice adult tearm..... THen I chanegd a few lines of the site and moved some stuff around. BOOM 600 google is crazy if you get a good spot DONT CHNAGE A DAMN THING.

                              Amen

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                              • JulianSosa
                                Confirmed User
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 3042

                                #65
                                Does anyone know about blogs getting indexed so fast?
                                How can we exploit this

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                                • Hindsight
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Oct 2003
                                  • 815

                                  #66
                                  Google considers blogging a positive thing for batching/theming links as they have all been edited by humans. Essentially if its in a blog its a good link.... hmmm.. well apparently they are. Also blogs are regularly refreshed and this is considered positive aswell.

                                  Good new listings for me

                                  I fucking love it when I reclaim first spot after dropping to second before! mwhahahaa!

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                                  • JulianSosa
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Aug 2003
                                    • 3042

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by Hindsight
                                    Google considers blogging a positive thing for batching/theming links as they have all been edited by humans. Essentially if its in a blog its a good link.... hmmm.. well apparently they are. Also blogs are regularly refreshed and this is considered positive aswell.

                                    Good new listings for me

                                    I fucking love it when I reclaim first spot after dropping to second before! mwhahahaa!
                                    So care to tell me how to get my Blogs seen as Blogs by google?

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                                    • Tipsy
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jul 2001
                                      • 6989

                                      #68
                                      Interesting how many people assume it's all finished. It's far from finished yet but how quickly it will finish and how much it will continue to change is impossible to tell at this stage.

                                      Interesting if slightly scray stuff at the moment.
                                      Ignorance is never bliss.

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                                      • Dracula
                                        Registered User
                                        • Nov 2001
                                        • 62

                                        #69
                                        The thing with the anchor text and sites being penalized for that is a nonsense.

                                        And to be in the mood of the thread, yeah, I lost some damn good positions. Pretty weird stuff.

                                        My advice is to wait and see after a few days how are the results.
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                                        • extreme
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Oct 2002
                                          • 2120

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by Troels


                                          Damn you're so wrong.


                                          On another note, why isn't this thread more popular?
                                          Tells you a bit about the people on GFY...
                                          If this was a thread about TGP's requiring 120 height thumbnails instead of 125 height thumbnails you'd be seeing a 16 page thread....

                                          Serge is, and has always been, right.
                                          .. define "anchor text spamming" since you seem to think its wrong when ppl think they've been punished for it.

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                                          • Smokey The Bear
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Oct 2003
                                            • 786

                                            #71
                                            anchor text is not being penalized very much as i can tell.

                                            Inbound anchor text means alot

                                            Go to google and search for the word "hits"


                                            The #2 slot is a page without any words in the entire page that contains the words hits its all to do with inbound anchor text

                                            and has for quite awhile

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                                            • BluntMatch
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Nov 2003
                                              • 380

                                              #72
                                              Let the stronger spammers survive!

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                                              • dd2
                                                Registered User
                                                • Mar 2002
                                                • 419

                                                #73
                                                I've gone from a number 7 position on a very popular keyword to non existant, however I am listed number 1 on some of my lower traffic keywords.

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                                                • Shoplifter
                                                  Richest man in Babylon
                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                  • 5867

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by Troels


                                                  Damn you're so wrong.


                                                  On another note, why isn't this thread more popular?
                                                  Tells you a bit about the people on GFY...
                                                  If this was a thread about TGP's requiring 120 height thumbnails instead of 125 height thumbnails you'd be seeing a 16 page thread....

                                                  Serge is, and has always been, right.
                                                  In my favored results I am seeing plain PR and titles up a little bit over anchor text emphasis. Some of my biggest competitors who were all about anchor text are just not there. There is a big thread on Webmasterworld.com about this.

                                                  Things look different right now from yesterday so they may be back by the end of the day and the results will be different.

                                                  I absolutely agree with your second point. A year ago this thread would have been 5 pages already. When Verotel raised their rates it barely got 5 posts the other day. We are drowning in crap here these days.
                                                  Last edited by Shoplifter; 11-16-2003, 09:17 AM.
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                                                  • Trax
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                                                    • Aug 2001
                                                    • 14486

                                                    #75
                                                    there are new rumors about that coming up every hour
                                                    but quite interesing ones
                                                    i will wait till wednesday before i reconsider everything and start to make changes

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                                                    • HS-Trixxxia
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Mar 2002
                                                      • 2946

                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by titmowse


                                                      i've noticed. i had a site that was #1 for it's keyword on google since i put the darned thing up. then one day, blammo. it fell off google search results completely. i looked at every "o".

                                                      so i messed with the keywords in my meta tags and it went up to third place. then it fell off again so i reworked my keywords again and it came back to the top, and then it dissappeared but it's back at #1 tonight.

                                                      what's this about different servers? am i merely connecting to a different google server when i go there each time?
                                                      Depending on the time of day or the traffic or whatever other reason possible, you may be getting results from other servers.
                                                      go to
                                                      http://www.google-dance.com
                                                      type in your keywords or phrase, on the arrow choose 'all 10 servers' and then check all the boxes on the other servers - you can choose to see the top 100 listings if you wish - but this will give you an idea of where you stand on all there servers at the moment and at times, they aren't the results google is giving you on a simple search.

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                                                      • SomeCreep
                                                        :glugglug
                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                        • 26118

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by Troels
                                                        Am I the only one to see a huge shakeup of Google results?
                                                        Some of the big spammers are totally gone?
                                                        Just checked a few phrases, but they all have totally different pages in the top10.
                                                        I definitely noticed it. Hopefully things will go back to the way they were.

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                                                        • titmowse
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                          • 5320

                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by Trixxxia


                                                          Depending on the time of day or the traffic or whatever other reason possible, you may be getting results from other servers.
                                                          go to
                                                          http://www.google-dance.com
                                                          type in your keywords or phrase, on the arrow choose 'all 10 servers' and then check all the boxes on the other servers - you can choose to see the top 100 listings if you wish - but this will give you an idea of where you stand on all there servers at the moment and at times, they aren't the results google is giving you on a simple search.
                                                          thanks!

                                                          interesting. my site is number one on eight servers and non-existent on two.
                                                          I still love everybody

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                                                          • Smokey The Bear
                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                            • Oct 2003
                                                            • 786

                                                            #79
                                                            The google bot is going mad now She's a shakin and movin.

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                                                            • brutus
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                              • 590

                                                              #80
                                                              ...learn how to live with Google... I'm living from it now... but I'm fucking scared about their ipo plans. Google came fast - it can vanish even faster. Corporate management team can kill Google with their "great" ideas.

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                                                              • xxxjay
                                                                Tube groupie.
                                                                • Aug 2002
                                                                • 13482

                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by Trax



                                                                horrible update.....
                                                                good and content rich pages with #1 spots on keywords bringing 3-4k searches a day are not to be found on the next 10 pages

                                                                how gay is that
                                                                and all the big spammers are still where they were before.
                                                                some even got way better results now

                                                                I'm going to have to agree with Trax. Maybe they haven't kicked on the spam filters yet.

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                                                                • xxxjay
                                                                  Tube groupie.
                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                  • 13482

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by Smokey The Bear
                                                                  anchor text is not being penalized very much as i can tell.

                                                                  Inbound anchor text means alot

                                                                  Go to google and search for the word "hits"


                                                                  The #2 slot is a page without any words in the entire page that contains the words hits its all to do with inbound anchor text

                                                                  and has for quite awhile
                                                                  It's widely theorized that there will be a small penelty to sites using spammy inbound text.
                                                                  http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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                                                                  • xxxjay
                                                                    Tube groupie.
                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                    • 13482

                                                                    #83
                                                                    these spammers are hanging in there:
                                                                    backseatbanger.backseatbangers.biz/ backseat-bangers/2321.html
                                                                    http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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                                                                    • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                      best designer on GFY
                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                      • 30307

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Maybe Google is going to an eternal dance.

                                                                      Meaning...

                                                                      The fucking thing is updating itself now.

                                                                      I do not think it will end.

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                                                                      • http
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Oct 2001
                                                                        • 1811

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by brutus
                                                                        ...learn how to live with Google... I'm living from it now... but I'm fucking scared about their ipo plans. Google came fast - it can vanish even faster. Corporate management team can kill Google with their "great" ideas.
                                                                        Yes the IPO is scary. I cannot imagine them NOT doing some severe, stupid changes along with the IPO such as putting much more paid links on the result pages or introducing a paid inclusion

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                                                                        • http
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                                          • 1811

                                                                          #86
                                                                          Originally posted by xxxjay
                                                                          these spammers are hanging in there:
                                                                          backseatbanger.backseatbangers.biz/ backseat-bangers/2321.html

                                                                          that guy is such a pathetic loser. Spamming each single term about 500 times, and then this fucktard doesn't even send people to the right sites. Hirsute goes to teen and so on.

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                                                                          • NiTe-HaWk
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                                            • 1196

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Anybody find anything else out yet?
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                                                                            • Tipsy
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                              • 6989

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by NiTe-HaWk
                                                                              Anybody find anything else out yet?
                                                                              Patience. Everything else is either hype, bullshit, conjecture or just plain wrong.

                                                                              Give it another 24-48 hours to settle. Certainly something major is happening and not stable yet.
                                                                              Ignorance is never bliss.

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                                                                              • Jon
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Jun 2002
                                                                                • 2578

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by Troels


                                                                                Damn you're so wrong.


                                                                                On another note, why isn't this thread more popular?
                                                                                Tells you a bit about the people on GFY...
                                                                                If this was a thread about TGP's requiring 120 height thumbnails instead of 125 height thumbnails you'd be seeing a 16 page thread....

                                                                                Serge is, and has always been, right.
                                                                                Patience my friend. Sometimes it's better to know there are less of us out there that aim for quality traffic. In 2-4 years when the TGP guys end up giving up on their shitty traffic and start migrating to SE traffic, you'll be light years ahead of them, as we all will be, and will end up on top no matter what.
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                                                                                • Jon
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jun 2002
                                                                                  • 2578

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  This update is definitely hardcore. Personally I think the dust will settle this week or the next. It may be their way of sifting through the spam, to catch, and ban them. You won't know for sure though until after the update is complete. No need to get upset just yet.
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                                                                                  • sexyclicks
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                                                                                    • Mar 2002
                                                                                    • 3240

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    content RICH page: http://www.bmcg.bg/search_engine_web...mization.shtml

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                                                                                    • Rorschach
                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                                      • 5579

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Originally posted by sexyclicks
                                                                                      content RICH page: http://www.bmcg.bg/search_engine_web...mization.shtml
                                                                                      haha that's classic.

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                                                                                      • Jay3
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                                                        • 246

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        LOL I hope google gets it's shit together soon....that page is really funny
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                                                                                        • Tytan
                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                          • Sep 2003
                                                                                          • 1391

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Every webmaster is talking about the Google shake up, go on any SE forum they will be posting like mad.
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                                                                                          • Nezster
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Feb 2003
                                                                                            • 2192

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            SE spammers will always find a way around getting to the top unfortunately...

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                                                                                            • Tipsy
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                                              • 6989

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
                                                                                              This update is definitely hardcore. Personally I think the dust will settle this week or the next. It may be their way of sifting through the spam, to catch, and ban them. You won't know for sure though until after the update is complete. No need to get upset just yet.
                                                                                              To be honest I think you could be right. Whatever it is is MAJOR and the 48 hours I said may be far too conservative. Amazing how many people panic too quickly. Bit of a bitch losing good placings for a week or so but not the end of the world providing they come back. If not just need to find out why and away you go again!
                                                                                              Ignorance is never bliss.

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                                                                                              • Shoplifter
                                                                                                Richest man in Babylon
                                                                                                • Jan 2002
                                                                                                • 5867

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Originally posted by Tytan
                                                                                                Every webmaster is talking about the Google shake up, go on any SE forum they will be posting like mad.

                                                                                                There are nearly 100 pages on webmasterworld.com about this now. There is a Google rep who posts cryptic statements and he is alluding to "...keyword-in-link are deader 'n disco..." etc.

                                                                                                Although I am taking heat for saying this at least in my result sets several big competitors who were pumping relevancy through anchors are totally gone.

                                                                                                Last night my missing site reappeared in the listings and today I am sitting pretty with a #6 result out of 3,600,000.
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                                                                                                • gornyhuy
                                                                                                  Chafed.
                                                                                                  • May 2002
                                                                                                  • 18041

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Shoplifter



                                                                                                  There are nearly 100 pages on webmasterworld.com about this now. There is a Google rep who posts cryptic statements and he is alluding to "...keyword-in-link are deader 'n disco..." etc.

                                                                                                  Although I am taking heat for saying this at least in my result sets several big competitors who were pumping relevancy through anchors are totally gone.

                                                                                                  Last night my missing site reappeared in the listings and today I am sitting pretty with a #6 result out of 3,600,000.

                                                                                                  Wow.... keywords in anchors are the lifeblood of many of the spammers, so that makes a lot of sense.... which means they will have to do tie in keyword density on linker page and linkee page and ignore the text content of the anchors themselves. This is actually a good thing for increasing the value of image based linking and for legitimate pages with high in-linking.
                                                                                                  Last edited by gornyhuy; 11-17-2003, 02:07 PM.

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                                                                                                  • fnet
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                                                                                                    • Jul 2002
                                                                                                    • 1721

                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    It's the index pages of allindomain sites that have been dropped from their corresponding serps.

                                                                                                    GG said there will be a patch; they will patch the algorithm and spin the wheel again. The index pages will return to the SERPS.

                                                                                                    G(oo)gle that.
                                                                                                    the sound of one hand googlewhacking

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                                                                                                    • brizzad
                                                                                                      holla
                                                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                                                      • 11769

                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      100 shakeups

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