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  • Ic3m4nZ
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    • Aug 2003
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    #51
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    • eroswebmaster
      March 1st, 2003
      • Jul 2001
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      #52
      Originally posted by doober
      last i checked i wasnt on your cock, but it was clearly written...
      could see how you wanted to be 100% sure it was hand delivered, i just thought her statement implied it.

      can we be friends again??


      Sure we can be friends.




      It just blows my mind that they're going after someone clear across the country...unless their intention is creating some sort of financial hardship in fighting the case.
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      • Jon
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        • Jun 2002
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        #53
        Oh wow, Acacia drama and webmaster dueling drama, all in one thread..

        SCORE!

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        • Mr.Fiction
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          #54
          Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
          Oh wow, Acacia drama and webmaster dueling drama, all in one thread..

          SCORE!

          Is this the first time you have heard from Acacia?

          You might not want to answer that question on the forum if you haven't talked to your lawyer, but I thought I'd ask.
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          • eroswebmaster
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            • Jul 2001
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            #55
            damn like 54 posts on this thread but all could have been answered in one...like pulling fucking teeth...LOL
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            • doober
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              #56
              lol


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              • Jon
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                #57
                Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


                Is this the first time you have heard from Acacia?

                You might not want to answer that question on the forum if you haven't talked to your lawyer, but I thought I'd ask.
                I got something a few days ago that seemed more like a promotional letter from them. But like I said earlier, this is definitely not one of those letters. I've already spoken to my lawyer, and am confident it was a mistake on their end, and hope to resolve it asap.
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                • eroswebmaster
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                  • Jul 2001
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV


                  I got something a few days ago that seemed more like a promotional letter from them. But like I said earlier, this is definitely not one of those letters. I've already spoken to my lawyer, and am confident it was a mistake on their end, and hope to resolve it asap.
                  Well good luck..hope it gets resolved for you.
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                  • Splash
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                    • Aug 2003
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV


                    I got something a few days ago that seemed more like a promotional letter from them. But like I said earlier, this is definitely not one of those letters. I've already spoken to my lawyer, and am confident it was a mistake on their end, and hope to resolve it asap.
                    So... what's in the legal papers? I'm curious to hear their logic for suing you. Of course, a scan of the document would help, but even the opening synopsis would help.

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                    • doober
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                      • Jul 2003
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                      #60
                      did they disclose domains in the process of serving you?
                      how can you be infringing anything if they dont show you exactly where it is your doing it?

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                      • FightThisPatent
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                        • Aug 2003
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                        #61
                        Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV

                        I got something a few days ago that seemed more like a promotional letter from them.

                        I hope you understand mine and anyone's skeptism on actually being served with a lawsuit from acacia...

                        Since you had received the 'promotional letter' as stated, you have until Nov. 30th to make a decision to take advantage of the introductory rates.

                        After Nov. 30th is when they can start filing lawsuits.

                        If this is indeed a real summons from Acacia, then be sure to show your lawyer the promotional letter.

                        It seems to me, it's too early to be seeing legal action from Acacia.


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                        • FightThisPatent
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                          #62
                          Originally posted by Splash

                          Of course, a scan of the document would help, but even the opening synopsis would help.

                          Since court documents are public records, it's not against any laws to publish a scan of the pages.



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                          • HS-Trixxxia
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                            #63
                            NiteChatDotTV - My question is simple.....and you can answer me in private if you wish (myname)[a]hotmail.com - I want to know if you are linking to these sites as clients (part of your portfolio) or as sponsors - if you are linking as your portfolio it's a different ballgame and you can probably see your lawyer about what you mentioned earlier - they can't prevent you from promoting your profession with samples - I could be wrong but I'd be interested to see this in court.

                            Also - if you were served I think they'd need a bailiff or whatever may be used in the US. I don't think a registered letter delivered by US Postal Service is enough - I may be wrong or unless it is what we refer to as a 'Letter of Demand' (you must respond or it's your first registered correspondance)

                            Also, who is signing the letter? Is it a lawyer or Tweetie Birdman? :-)

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                            • Kingfish
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                              • Sep 2002
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                              #64
                              Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV


                              Registered letter handed to me in person.
                              A clarification is this simply a registered letter that says final notice or is it an actual summons saying you have been sued and have so many days to respond to the complaint?

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                              • hyper
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                                • Mar 2002
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                                #65
                                Originally posted by icedemon


                                I have a feeling that a judge would just throw it out of court if the judge had any understanding of the internet. But that just a feeling, not what the law says (if the law says anything about it).
                                i think its just another tactic hoping to get default judgements for more press release publicity and to boost their stock shares

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                                • mardigras
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                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by icedemon



                                  I have a feeling that a judge would just throw it out of court if the judge had any understanding of the internet. But that just a feeling, not what the law says (if the law says anything about it).
                                  Cases involving the internet notoriously end up before judges without a clue about the internet.
                                  .

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                                  • Splash
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                                    • Aug 2003
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                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by FightThisPatent



                                    I hope you understand mine and anyone's skeptism on actually being served with a lawsuit from acacia...

                                    Since you had received the 'promotional letter' as stated, you have until Nov. 30th to make a decision to take advantage of the introductory rates.

                                    After Nov. 30th is when they can start filing lawsuits.

                                    If this is indeed a real summons from Acacia, then be sure to show your lawyer the promotional letter.

                                    It seems to me, it's too early to be seeing legal action from Acacia.


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                                    My thoughts too FightThisPatent. I can understand Acacia attempting to make a point with some decenters who might be pressing the issue or a return letter of "Fuck your patents and the horse they rode in on!", but I have a hard time believing this without some proof.

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                                    • Dravyk
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                                      • Jan 2001
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                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by Splash
                                      My thoughts too FightThisPatent. I can understand Acacia attempting to make a point with some decenters who might be pressing the issue or a return letter of "Fuck your patents and the horse they rode in on!", but I have a hard time believing this without some proof.
                                      On the other hand ... Acacia might have expected tons of money coming into them right now by a few thousand scared webmasters. And that hasn't happened. ... so they figured a few lawsuits here and there to stir up the pot and put on more pressure.
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                                      • FightThisPatent
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                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by Dravyk
                                        so they figured a few lawsuits here and there to stir up the pot and put on more pressure.


                                        They have to wait until after Nov. 30th... with all this build up and tension, there is no excuse for pre-mature litigation....




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                                        • Mr. Porno King
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                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by Splash


                                          My thoughts too FightThisPatent. I can understand Acacia attempting to make a point with some decenters who might be pressing the issue or a return letter of "Fuck your patents and the horse they rode in on!", but I have a hard time believing this without some proof.
                                          Meh.. I sent them a big :Fuck You: letter in hopes of being served. A haven't been so lucky yet, and I'm really, really, bored.
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                                          • hyper
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                                            • Mar 2002
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                                            #71
                                            when its time to go to court..
                                            you and your lawyer need to get ahold of me

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                                            • Honeyslut
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                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
                                              Oh wow, Acacia drama and webmaster dueling drama, all in one thread..

                                              SCORE!

                                              This post makes one think you are just stirring the pot
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                                              • Trax
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                                                #73
                                                and there is more to come for sure!

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                                                • LiveDose
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                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by eroswebmaster


                                                  Thx for answering...as someone else asked what courts?

                                                  I think it's strange going after someone in NY unless they are filing it in Cali and hoping you won't ever show up.

                                                  If he has no biz registered in Cali then they would have to file in NY.

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                                                  • FightThisPatent
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                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by LiveDose

                                                    If he has no biz registered in Cali then they would have to file in NY.


                                                    Acacia can claim jurisdiction to be in California if atleast 1 customer/visitor of a website was in California.

                                                    Not hard to prove, especially since they could be that one customer/visitor by visiting the website....

                                                    Therefore, lawsuits don't have to be filed in the same state as the website owner.....

                                                    They have home court advantage.


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                                                    • basschick
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                                                      #76
                                                      i can't believe the misconceptions i'm seeing in this thread!

                                                      does it have to be a process server? i delivered a judgement to a woman for a friend and it was totally legal.
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                                                      • Xenophage
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                                                        • Oct 2001
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                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
                                                        Furthermore.. Does this mean that the TGP and MGP guys that LINK to sites that do streaming will be subject to getting their asses sued as well?
                                                        YES

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                                                        • Tipsy
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                                                          #78
                                                          Has to be said - so far really does smell like total bullshit. Although Acacia seem to be far less switched on than they believe themselves to be the details so far make it smell like BS.
                                                          Ignorance is never bliss.

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                                                          • icedemon
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                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by mardigras


                                                            Cases involving the internet notoriously end up before judges without a clue about the internet.
                                                            That's always been my fear with this whole Acacia thing. A judge that doesn't know or hardly knows anything about the internet taking some of these cases. I've seen it happen before. Especially with Microsoft.
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                                                            • MikeFold
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                                                              • Nov 2001
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                                                              #80
                                                              Looks like On Command didn't get til the 30th


                                                              http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/031113/135598_1.html

                                                              Oh, and basschick is correct
                                                              ANY PERSON can deliver/serve as long as the service
                                                              is legal and notarized...
                                                              nothing to promote

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                                                              • FightThisPatent
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                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by MikeFold
                                                                Looks like On Command didn't get til the 30th


                                                                http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/031113/135598_1.html

                                                                Negotiations must have broken down....mainstream companies probably didn't get a 'Final Notice' type letter......getting some answers on this shortly.

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                                                                • Gemini
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                                                                  #82
                                                                  I've been wondering all afternoon if the judge will allow this differentiation between mainstream and adult or whether the judge will order some sort of halt on that case and hold them to the November date. lol
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