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  • SykkBoy
    Jesus loves bacon
    • Feb 2001
    • 19969

    #1

    Have affiliate demands gone too far?

    Are affiliates going too far with what they demand from sponsors these days?

    I'm constantly getting hit up for more content (then we already provide), free hosting, free banner hosting, free assword to our members area ("to grab content for galleries"), etc.

    I really don't mind it. Hell,we'll do anything to get your traffic: free hosting? got it free domain egistration or use oe of ours? not a problem more or specialized content/banners/galleries? sure thing. The problem is, after bending over backwards for people, they often seem to "forget" to send the traffic.

    My favorite thing is giving someone free space and content to promote our sites and they "forget" to promote our sites but "remember" to promote the sites of other programs with their bandwidth/space they've been given.

    moral of the stroy: most sponsors wll bend over backwards for their affiliates, but it seems affiliates just remain fickle.

    on that note: if you an send traffic and are serious about building a mutually profitable relationship, hit me up and let's discuss what it will take to EARN your traffic. We value our affiliates highly and know the more money they make, the more moneywe make. If you need content, hosting, banners, custom adverts, traffic tips and tricks, etc. I'll bend over backwards to ensure you get it, and all you simply have to do to make more money is...USE THE TOOLS.

    If you want free hosting, free hosted banners, exclusive content, domains registered for you, etc. and don't feel like putting forth any building efforts or have any intentions of even using the tools provided, then please go sign up with another sponsor and let's not waste each others' time.

    I can only give you the tools to make more money, but you're still going to have to provide the labor and effort.

    Let's make some money together.
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  • eroswebmaster
    March 1st, 2003
    • Jul 2001
    • 20295

    #2
    I'm still waiting on the hookers man...the hookers.
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    • SykkBoy2
      Jesus loves bacon
      • Feb 2001
      • 19969

      #3
      Originally posted by eroswebmaster
      I'm still waiting on the hookers man...the hookers.
      Send 500 signups and we'll take a little trip to TJ with Georgio in tow and you'll be in the land of hookers-a-plenty ;-)
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      • Pornkings
        Confirmed User
        • Oct 2002
        • 5334

        #4
        there is no Loyalty

        and things are getting very competitive
        Pornkings.com

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        • eroswebmaster
          March 1st, 2003
          • Jul 2001
          • 20295

          #5
          Originally posted by SykkBoy2
          Send 500 signups and we'll take a little trip to TJ with Georgio in tow and you'll be in the land of hookers-a-plenty ;-)
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          • SykkBoy2
            Jesus loves bacon
            • Feb 2001
            • 19969

            #6
            Originally posted by Pornkings
            there is no Loyalty

            and things are getting very competitive
            It's not even so much about loyalty as it is about making a ton of demands and then nothing happens.
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            • pornstar2pac
              Omaha Hi/Lo
              • Nov 2003
              • 17380

              #7
              Originally posted by Pornkings
              there is no Loyalty

              and things are getting very competitive
              so true, soon you will see players like me getting paid to be exculsive with one program....you 'll see
              Trump haters gonna hate. that's all they can do

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              • Pornkings
                Confirmed User
                • Oct 2002
                • 5334

                #8
                Originally posted by SykkBoy2
                It's not even so much about loyalty as it is about making a ton of demands and then nothing happens.

                Yea people who ask for the sky are the ones that don't have anything.

                it happens to us all the time. look at everything we have and give yet they still will complain about what we don't have instead of trying what we do.

                I've learned to say show me something before we do anything extra
                Pornkings.com

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                • Paul Markham
                  Too old to care
                  • Jun 2001
                  • 52942

                  #9
                  What else is there left to give to them?

                  Trust me if a sponsor can think of it they will hand it over.



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                  • SykkBoy2
                    Jesus loves bacon
                    • Feb 2001
                    • 19969

                    #10
                    Originally posted by charly
                    What else is there left to give to them?

                    Trust me if a sponsor can think of it they will hand it over.
                    yup
                    I guess most except me to just hit up TheDoc to just go ahead and write them a check...skip all that "traffic sending bullshit"
                    ;-)
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                    • Shannon G
                      Confirmed User
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 735

                      #11
                      I really don't mind creating custom promo materials for affiliates... since I need to be doing that anyhow and the new materials eventually get added to the regular arsenal. And I'm always glad to help out affiliates that have already started sending traffic.

                      HOWEVER, when affiliates constantly ask for TITLES for their promotions and basic subject lines for their emails/newsletters that's getting a bit lazy Of course, it's different when they are asking if something is compliant with the changing laws... but to ask someone to come up w/ your sales slogan is pushing it. lol


                      But then, maybe I'm just feeling stingy right now... 'cas I know I wouldn't buy hookers for an affiliate... lap dances, drinks, no problem... if you're sending traffic!

                      Cheers!

                      Shannon G
                      SendingPros.com - Affordable Email Marketing Platform. Automation at Your Fingertips!

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                      • WarChild
                        Let slip the dogs of war.
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 17263

                        #12
                        I'm probably one of those fickle affiliates you're speaking of.

                        I do demand access to members area for content ... There's reasons for it though:

                        1) Content that is available to all webmasters, is often heavily over used. It makes it difficult to get good listings for galleries with heavily used content

                        3) I think sites sell better, if after clicking through from the gallery the surfer can see the exact same sorts of content that have them already interested. Tease them with what we now know they're interested in.

                        2) Member retention is just better with your content. People are signing up for your sites, based on the free samples I am providing. If they don't find the same sort of content, and in many times the rest of the specific movie they're looking for, they aren't going to stay. This doesn't matter to me on PPS, but should matter to you always.

                        As far as free hosting goes .. I think it's silly, for the most part, to demand this. Just get a good pay out, and handle your own hosting. This is what I always do. I get my own 404 traffic, and most importantly, control over all my domains.

                        All of this being said .. if you have some high converting reality sites, I'll try them out. Let's chat on ICQ (97374780).
                        .

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                        • Phoenix
                          BACON BACON BACON
                          • Nov 2002
                          • 35475

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Pornkings

                          I've learned to say show me something before we do anything extra

                          that is a wise move..i have started to do the same, it works
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                          • SykkBoy2
                            Jesus loves bacon
                            • Feb 2001
                            • 19969

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Pornkings
                            Yea people who ask for the sky are the ones that don't have anything.

                            it happens to us all the time. look at everything we have and give yet they still will complain about what we don't have instead of trying what we do.

                            I've learned to say show me something before we do anything extra
                            exactly
                            I really do appreciate our affiliates and understand loyalties are fickle and I truly love nothing more than going that extra step for our affiliates, but I've gotten a little grouchier about showing the love to those who can't even so much as submit a couple galleries or send a couple token hits.

                            the worst is getting to be the begging for free passwords to "get content to make galleries" which I don't mind at all, but if you're going to pilfer our member's area, at least put SOME effort into it. We feel we provide more than enough content in our affiliate area and new sets are being added all the time.

                            On a positive note, I'm seeing a lot of eager gogetters who are new to the game and just need a couple traffic tips or gallery critiques.....
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                            • eroswebmaster
                              March 1st, 2003
                              • Jul 2001
                              • 20295

                              #15
                              Originally posted by WarChild

                              All of this being said .. if you have some high converting reality sites, I'll try them out. Let's chat on ICQ (97374780).
                              I'm not into busty chicks...but I have seen the back end on EGC's big tit site and I tell you man they are really going after this fetish and hard...the site converts and retains...if you have big tit traffic send it to them.
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                              • SykkBoy2
                                Jesus loves bacon
                                • Feb 2001
                                • 19969

                                #16
                                Originally posted by WarChild
                                I'm probably one of those fickle affiliates you're speaking of.

                                I do demand access to members area for content ... There's reasons for it though:

                                1) Content that is available to all webmasters, is often heavily over used. It makes it difficult to get good listings for galleries with heavily used content

                                3) I think sites sell better, if after clicking through from the gallery the surfer can see the exact same sorts of content that have them already interested. Tease them with what we now know they're interested in.

                                2) Member retention is just better with your content. People are signing up for your sites, based on the free samples I am providing. If they don't find the same sort of content, and in many times the rest of the specific movie they're looking for, they aren't going to stay. This doesn't matter to me on PPS, but should matter to you always.

                                As far as free hosting goes .. I think it's silly, for the most part, to demand this. Just get a good pay out, and handle your own hosting. This is what I always do. I get my own 404 traffic, and most importantly, control over all my domains.

                                All of this being said .. if you have some high converting reality sites, I'll try them out. Let's chat on ICQ (97374780).
                                no, not fickle at all
                                I understand the need for passwords, etc. my complaint is with those who demand them and then "forget' to promote the sites after they've been through the sites.

                                I'll hit you up. let's talk traffic. Again, any affiliate who is serious about promotion, I'll bend over backwards. Who knows, maybe our sites won't do well with your traffic, but all we can do is provide the tools and ask affiliates to give it a chance.
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                                • Sly_RJ
                                  Live Hard - Die Hard
                                  • Feb 2002
                                  • 17042

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by SykkBoy2
                                  the worst is getting to be the begging for free passwords to "get content to make galleries" which I don't mind at all, but if you're going to pilfer our member's area, at least put SOME effort into it. We feel we provide more than enough content in our affiliate area and new sets are being added all the time.
                                  I'm adopting this policy from now on. Running into too many people asking for passwords that never end up sending traffic.
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                                  • angeleyes
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Feb 2003
                                    • 3584

                                    #18
                                    I think the strangest request I ever received was a person new to the business that asked us to design all original sites for him, submit for him, host for him, purchase a stats tracking membership and meet with him from 7-9 every night online teaching him about the biz. (Oh, wait, I'm sorry---he said he could give me Sundays off, so only 6 days a week).




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                                    • SykkBoy2
                                      Jesus loves bacon
                                      • Feb 2001
                                      • 19969

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Shannon G
                                      I really don't mind creating custom promo materials for affiliates... since I need to be doing that anyhow and the new materials eventually get added to the regular arsenal. And I'm always glad to help out affiliates that have already started sending traffic.

                                      HOWEVER, when affiliates constantly ask for TITLES for their promotions and basic subject lines for their emails/newsletters that's getting a bit lazy Of course, it's different when they are asking if something is compliant with the changing laws... but to ask someone to come up w/ your sales slogan is pushing it. lol


                                      But then, maybe I'm just feeling stingy right now... 'cas I know I wouldn't buy hookers for an affiliate... lap dances, drinks, no problem... if you're sending traffic!

                                      Cheers!

                                      Shannon G
                                      psst, hookers in Tijuanna are almost cheaper than lapdances ;-))
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                                      • Sly_RJ
                                        Live Hard - Die Hard
                                        • Feb 2002
                                        • 17042

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by angeleyes
                                        I think the strangest request I ever received was a person new to the business that asked us to design all original sites for him, submit for him, host for him, purchase a stats tracking membership and meet with him from 7-9 every night online teaching him about the biz. (Oh, wait, I'm sorry---he said he could give me Sundays off, so only 6 days a week).




                                        I didn't think that would be an issue since I carry your purse for you. Now you're whining about it? Damn women!
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                                        • eroswebmaster
                                          March 1st, 2003
                                          • Jul 2001
                                          • 20295

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by angeleyes
                                          I think the strangest request I ever received was a person new to the business that asked us to design all original sites for him, submit for him, host for him, purchase a stats tracking membership and meet with him from 7-9 every night online teaching him about the biz. (Oh, wait, I'm sorry---he said he could give me Sundays off, so only 6 days a week).




                                          LOL you mean you didn't have to go to his house and wipe his ass? You got off easy.
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                                          • SykkBoy2
                                            Jesus loves bacon
                                            • Feb 2001
                                            • 19969

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by angeleyes
                                            I think the strangest request I ever received was a person new to the business that asked us to design all original sites for him, submit for him, host for him, purchase a stats tracking membership and meet with him from 7-9 every night online teaching him about the biz. (Oh, wait, I'm sorry---he said he could give me Sundays off, so only 6 days a week).




                                            hahah, that's funny
                                            did you tell him just to sit back and you'll deliver the check in person and leave it blank so he doesn't have to make an immediate decision what he wants the amount to be?
                                            ;-)
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                                            • KCat
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Sep 2002
                                              • 2204

                                              #23
                                              Can you drop by my place with some free content on DVD? Oh & pick up some Thai take-out while you're at it.

                                              What do you mean my $50 check isn't here yet?????







                                              *sorry...couldn't resist!*

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                                              • Shannon G
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Aug 2003
                                                • 735

                                                #24
                                                TJs too far from Florida Of course, I could also chip in airfare, a hotel, and free tequila if it's for the right traffic!! hahahaha

                                                Cheers!

                                                Shannon G
                                                SendingPros.com - Affordable Email Marketing Platform. Automation at Your Fingertips!

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                                                • WarChild
                                                  Let slip the dogs of war.
                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                  • 17263

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by eroswebmaster
                                                  I'm not into busty chicks...but I have seen the back end on EGC's big tit site and I tell you man they are really going after this fetish and hard...the site converts and retains...if you have big tit traffic send it to them.
                                                  I get regular listings on many, many MGPs .. I'm sure I've got big tit traffic, in fact I know I do.

                                                  The hardest thing for me to get done right now, is new templates. I hate being told "Oh yes, this site converts well" .. making a new template, and finding out it was all a lie.

                                                  If any sponsor wants to pay Eroswebmaster to make movie gallery templates, for my use only .. I'll send their program traffic for sure. If it converts piss poor, I won't stay .. But I will send a few thousand well filtered clicks. If the conversion rate is even bearable, I'll keep sending.
                                                  .

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                                                  • SykkBoy2
                                                    Jesus loves bacon
                                                    • Feb 2001
                                                    • 19969

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by KCat
                                                    Can you drop by my place with some free content on DVD? Oh & pick up some Thai take-out while you're at it.

                                                    What do you mean my $50 check isn't here yet?????







                                                    *sorry...couldn't resist!*
                                                    hey, I'll do that for you and you won;'t even have to send any traffic (as long as I get to stay behind and share in the thai food) ;-)))
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                                                    • Sosa
                                                      In Tushy Land
                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                      • 40149

                                                      #27
                                                      not all afflilates rip you off like that. I've been doing very well with most of the programs that I've been pushing that offer hosting/content etc.

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                                                      • Sly_RJ
                                                        Live Hard - Die Hard
                                                        • Feb 2002
                                                        • 17042

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by WarChild
                                                        I get regular listings on many, many MGPs .. I'm sure I've got big tit traffic, in fact I know I do.

                                                        The hardest thing for me to get done right now, is new templates. I hate being told "Oh yes, this site converts well" .. making a new template, and finding out it was all a lie.

                                                        If any sponsor wants to pay Eroswebmaster to make movie gallery templates, for my use only .. I'll send their program traffic for sure. If it converts piss poor, I won't stay .. But I will send a few thousand well filtered clicks. If the conversion rate is even bearable, I'll keep sending.
                                                        eros owes me a couple templates. If he's up to it, you just made yourself a deal.
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                                                        • WarChild
                                                          Let slip the dogs of war.
                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                          • 17263

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Sly_RJ
                                                          eros owes me a couple templates. If he's up to it, you just made yourself a deal.
                                                          Let's finanilze on ICQ ... But it sounds good to me. Eros makes kick ass galleries .. And I have room in submission rotation immediately.
                                                          .

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                                                          • Ironhorse
                                                            Pixel Pusher
                                                            • Nov 2002
                                                            • 7094

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by eroswebmaster
                                                            I'm still waiting on the hookers man...the hookers.
                                                            Yeah boyyyiiyyyy
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                                                            • eroswebmaster
                                                              March 1st, 2003
                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                              • 20295

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by WarChild
                                                              I get regular listings on many, many MGPs .. I'm sure I've got big tit traffic, in fact I know I do.

                                                              The hardest thing for me to get done right now, is new templates. I hate being told "Oh yes, this site converts well" .. making a new template, and finding out it was all a lie.

                                                              If any sponsor wants to pay Eroswebmaster to make movie gallery templates, for my use only .. I'll send their program traffic for sure. If it converts piss poor, I won't stay .. But I will send a few thousand well filtered clicks. If the conversion rate is even bearable, I'll keep sending.
                                                              Thx man for the vote of confidence

                                                              I've known TheDoc for a few years now and he's one of the most honest guys I know in this biz and out of it...very helpful as well and always willing to teach you something about this biz...Chris when he puts out a product he makes sure it's quality and the numbers I've seen that he's been so kind to share they retain above average.

                                                              He and Kristin and now Lance are tops in my book.
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                                                              • eroswebmaster
                                                                March 1st, 2003
                                                                • Jul 2001
                                                                • 20295

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Sly_RJ
                                                                eros owes me a couple templates. If he's up to it, you just made yourself a deal.
                                                                For rent - ICQ 127-027-910
                                                                Click here for more details

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                                                                • WarChild
                                                                  Let slip the dogs of war.
                                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                                  • 17263

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Holy crap!

                                                                  Does this mean that actual business has been done on GFY .. And nobody got called any names or got called out?

                                                                  It must be cold in Hell today.
                                                                  .

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                                                                  • KCat
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                                    • 2204

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by SykkBoy2
                                                                    hey, I'll do that for you and you won;'t even have to send any traffic (as long as I get to stay behind and share in the thai food) ;-)))
                                                                    Deal!


                                                                    BTW, have you noticed that same sort of behavior with surfers/members? The ones who email a lot before they join or make constant demands are hardly worth the time. I can have 500 members content just logging in & downloading the updates, but there's always a handful that will email just about every day with some kind of question/request/complaint.

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                                                                    • SykkBoy2
                                                                      Jesus loves bacon
                                                                      • Feb 2001
                                                                      • 19969

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Sosa
                                                                      not all afflilates rip you off like that. I've been doing very well with most of the programs that I've been pushing that offer hosting/content etc.
                                                                      I totally agree
                                                                      we have some amazing affiliates who are using the tools we provide and making good money.
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                                                                      • SykkBoy2
                                                                        Jesus loves bacon
                                                                        • Feb 2001
                                                                        • 19969

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by WarChild
                                                                        I get regular listings on many, many MGPs .. I'm sure I've got big tit traffic, in fact I know I do.

                                                                        The hardest thing for me to get done right now, is new templates. I hate being told "Oh yes, this site converts well" .. making a new template, and finding out it was all a lie.

                                                                        If any sponsor wants to pay Eroswebmaster to make movie gallery templates, for my use only .. I'll send their program traffic for sure. If it converts piss poor, I won't stay .. But I will send a few thousand well filtered clicks. If the conversion rate is even bearable, I'll keep sending.
                                                                        deal

                                                                        I'll even go a step further
                                                                        link to the tour page of the girl featured in the gallery, don't offer things we don't have (our trial is really a trial membership, not a FULL TRIAL membership) and if it converts worse than 1:600 over 3-4 listings, I'll throw in a surprise bonus.
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                                                                        • angeleyes
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                                          • 3584

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by KCat
                                                                          Deal!


                                                                          BTW, have you noticed that same sort of behavior with surfers/members? The ones who email a lot before they join or make constant demands are hardly worth the time. I can have 500 members content just logging in & downloading the updates, but there's always a handful that will email just about every day with some kind of question/request/complaint.
                                                                          The only ones that email us on a daily basis are the ones that send about 10 hits every 4 months.
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                                                                          • FreeHugeMovies
                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                            • Dec 2001
                                                                            • 14141

                                                                            #38
                                                                            I have been asked a few times by some bigger sites if I would submit one of our sponsor hosted galleries with their link code. I know that it isn't a big deal but their demands are getting more and more. I simply do not have time to do submissions.

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                                                                            • SykkBoy2
                                                                              Jesus loves bacon
                                                                              • Feb 2001
                                                                              • 19969

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by KCat
                                                                              Deal!


                                                                              BTW, have you noticed that same sort of behavior with surfers/members? The ones who email a lot before they join or make constant demands are hardly worth the time. I can have 500 members content just logging in & downloading the updates, but there's always a handful that will email just about every day with some kind of question/request/complaint.
                                                                              exactly

                                                                              the ones who complain about shaving have usually only sent 2-3 joins as it is (even if a sponsor were shaving, it's not going to be someone only sending 2-3 joins per month), the ones who complain most about missing checks generally haven't made the minimum payout in the first place...
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                                                                              • SykkBoy2
                                                                                Jesus loves bacon
                                                                                • Feb 2001
                                                                                • 19969

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by WarChild
                                                                                Holy crap!

                                                                                Does this mean that actual business has been done on GFY .. And nobody got called any names or got called out?

                                                                                It must be cold in Hell today.
                                                                                Satan is definitely reaching for a sweater and eyeing the big parka.....
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                                                                                • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                                  best designer on GFY
                                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                                  • 30307

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Affiliates are not key to success.

                                                                                  One should have a succesful business before allowing or having affiliates.

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                                                                                  • WarChild
                                                                                    Let slip the dogs of war.
                                                                                    • Jan 2003
                                                                                    • 17263

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by SykkBoy2
                                                                                    deal

                                                                                    I'll even go a step further
                                                                                    link to the tour page of the girl featured in the gallery, don't offer things we don't have (our trial is really a trial membership, not a FULL TRIAL membership) and if it converts worse than 1:600 over 3-4 listings, I'll throw in a surprise bonus.
                                                                                    Sounds good .. hit me up on ICQ.

                                                                                    I'm going for a bike ride right now, but I'll get back to anyone that ICQ's me.
                                                                                    .

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                                                                                    • SykkBoy2
                                                                                      Jesus loves bacon
                                                                                      • Feb 2001
                                                                                      • 19969

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by FreeHugeMovies
                                                                                      I have been asked a few times by some bigger sites if I would submit one of our sponsor hosted galleries with their link code. I know that it isn't a big deal but their demands are getting more and more. I simply do not have time to do submissions.
                                                                                      that's funny!
                                                                                      I barely have enough time in the day to submit my own sites, hehehe ;-)
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                                                                                      • SykkBoy2
                                                                                        Jesus loves bacon
                                                                                        • Feb 2001
                                                                                        • 19969

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                                        Affiliates are not key to success.

                                                                                        One should have a succesful business before allowing or having affiliates.
                                                                                        while we do actually generate a majority of our traffic in-house, affiliates are vital to getting fresh traffic from fresh sources
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                                                                                        • Sly_RJ
                                                                                          Live Hard - Die Hard
                                                                                          • Feb 2002
                                                                                          • 17042

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by FreeHugeMovies
                                                                                          I have been asked a few times by some bigger sites if I would submit one of our sponsor hosted galleries with their link code. I know that it isn't a big deal but their demands are getting more and more. I simply do not have time to do submissions.
                                                                                          Those people need to learn that it's time to hire on help. With my personal stuff I'm small time compared to a lot of people I know, and even *I* have 2 people working for me on a daily basis.
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                                                                                          • BlueQuartz
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • May 2004
                                                                                            • 1971

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Sykkboy I totally agree....


                                                                                            anychance of epassporte payments for webmasters?

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                                                                                            • FilthyRob
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Feb 2004
                                                                                              • 6741

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by angeleyes
                                                                                              I think the strangest request I ever received was a person new to the business that asked us to design all original sites for him, submit for him, host for him, purchase a stats tracking membership and meet with him from 7-9 every night online teaching him about the biz. (Oh, wait, I'm sorry---he said he could give me Sundays off, so only 6 days a week).




                                                                                              Now that's a little extreme there isn't it? I hope your not talking about me... lol
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                                                                                              • TheEnforcer
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • May 2001
                                                                                                • 2855

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Come on now!! You know you can't live without that 1 signup a month from the guy who demands 5 gallery templates and 2000 pics every week!!
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                                                                                                • SykkBoy2
                                                                                                  Jesus loves bacon
                                                                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                                                                  • 19969

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by BlueQuartz
                                                                                                  Sykkboy I totally agree....


                                                                                                  anychance of epassporte payments for webmasters?
                                                                                                  hit up TheDoc or Kristin about that
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                                                                                                  • Basic_man
                                                                                                    Programming King Pin
                                                                                                    • Oct 2003
                                                                                                    • 27360

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    All sponsors should have your mentality !
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