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Johnnyv · 06-14-2004, 01:19 PM

Clicktruth

I'm Johnny V.

A lot of you know who I am, some of you do not. You will almost never see me on the boards, as I find it is not always the best place to engage in positive and business forward discussions. Having said that I do realize the value of it's ability to approach the mass members of our Industry / community, and for that I am impressed and thankful. We as a group should be proud of ourselves for pushing the envelope of technology, and communication, and it would be my strongest recommendation that we use opportunities like this to strengthen our position, and our place in the Internet community.

It was great to see everyone at the San Diego show.

A little bit on Clicktruth.

Clicktruth was developed by The Porn Posse, to assist Webmasters to be sure that they are getting credit for every sign up they send. It has a secondary purpose, yet no less important, for sponsorship programs to be able to "prove" that they do not shave. As a lot of you know, the simple accusation that you shave can have drastic effects on your credibility, and therefore on the number of webmasters sending to your program, and then therefore to your bottom line. Clicktruth was developed to bring a certain level of honesty and integrity to a very lucrative and important element of our Industry / Community.

How it works: Obviously I am not going to give away the secrect sauce here, but the truth is the recepie is quite simple. We use the combination of the post back data from the processors, the referring webmasters hit count, and the number of sign-ups that are credited, and by interpreting that data, make a determination as to whether the sponsorship program paid the webmaster for each sign up. We also preform random audits of each program that we work with, and send test joins through the system to be sure that the sponsorship program counts every hit. That's it. It really means nothing if I own a program and tell you I do not shave. Everyone will tell you they do not shave. It means nothing if I tell you my program is great and converts well; everyone will tell you that their program is great and converts well. The Porn Posse, and Clicktruth, was developed to act as a true third party, without positive or negative impact on any program. We charge everyone the same amount. We do not have a program. We do not critique others intentions. We are here to say what our conclusions are, what we have seen over time to be true, and nothing else.

Without telling you every element of our system, that is how we work.

We are not in the business of slamming anyone. We have a list of webmasters that we keep that have proven to us over time that their systems are clean, and it is these webmasters that we recommend. If your sponsorship program is not on that list, or the place you send your traffic to is not on that list, it does not mean that they shave. I will repeat, we recommend programs that we "know" do not shave, and encourage referring webmasters to send their traffic there.

We do not make money from the sign ups. We have a flat rate that we are paid by every sponsorship program in our network. We do not have favorites, and we charge everyone the same amount of money. It takes a very short amount of time, usually about 1 day to implement our scripts, and we have found, that with the assistance of the sponsorship program, we can be extremely accurate as to who does and does not shave.

(Please disregard what is posted up on our sites, at both Clicktruth.com, and Pornposse.com We are creating new sites now, updating our lists, and adding the several new members that have been added since March / April. I am horrible about updating that site, I realize it is a neccesity, but i simply have several very positive programs to bring you all shortly that have taken all my time Bear with me).

I will leave you with this.

I am not going to sit on the board and defend this program, debate it, scream and yell, or be called a good guy, or an asshole, which ever you prefer. I will not do that, because to be perfectly candid, I have no patience or tolerance for it. Those of you who think I'm an ass, I doubt if you knew me you would think that way, or if you met me would say it to my face. Having said that, I am more than happy to meet with any of you, or speak to any of you on the phone or in an e-mail. I will leave you my information at the end of this post.

I would like to take a minute and assume a defensive position for just a moment however.

Oystein is a friend of mine. He has proven himself to be a good friend to me over time, and there is nothing more valuable to me than that. I am unfamiliar with MPA 2. I was asked to add my software to the offering of MPA 3 and I was, (and am) happy to do it. Say what you will about anyone in this space....Oystein is a good friend, and a good Man.

There are several good people in this space, I am proud to say that several of them are my friends. We should stick together, all of us as an Industry / Community. There is a saying, (I forget who said it) " though dogs may quarrel amongst themselves, they are one against the wolf". We as an Industry / Community should be "one against the wolf". There are more people that do like us out there than do, that is no secrect, but shaving, back-stabbing, yelling at each other on these boards, and the general shit-ass non-business stuff that goes on publicly, should be taken off line.

You may call me a asshole for saying so, but that is exactly why you will not get a reply from me on this board, or on this post.

If you would like to speak to me, please send me an e-mail, at [email protected] You may also call me at 1-213-484-4224

Don't call me to rant, as you will not get the response you are looking for. I am here to assist you all, both Webmaster and Sponsor program alike. My years in this space have been good to me, and I am happy to do something that would assist us all going forward for a very long time; making money in a space that is liberal, forgiving, and free to express it self as genuinely as you all express your own thoughts and interests. An Industry by the way, that is not going anywhere for a very very long time.

Best of luck

Johnny V.

06-14-2004, 01:19 PM
Johnnyv Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 75	Clicktruth I'm Johnny V. A lot of you know who I am, some of you do not. You will almost never see me on the boards, as I find it is not always the best place to engage in positive and business forward discussions. Having said that I do realize the value of it's ability to approach the mass members of our Industry / community, and for that I am impressed and thankful. We as a group should be proud of ourselves for pushing the envelope of technology, and communication, and it would be my strongest recommendation that we use opportunities like this to strengthen our position, and our place in the Internet community. It was great to see everyone at the San Diego show. A little bit on Clicktruth. Clicktruth was developed by The Porn Posse, to assist Webmasters to be sure that they are getting credit for every sign up they send. It has a secondary purpose, yet no less important, for sponsorship programs to be able to "prove" that they do not shave. As a lot of you know, the simple accusation that you shave can have drastic effects on your credibility, and therefore on the number of webmasters sending to your program, and then therefore to your bottom line. Clicktruth was developed to bring a certain level of honesty and integrity to a very lucrative and important element of our Industry / Community. How it works: Obviously I am not going to give away the secrect sauce here, but the truth is the recepie is quite simple. We use the combination of the post back data from the processors, the referring webmasters hit count, and the number of sign-ups that are credited, and by interpreting that data, make a determination as to whether the sponsorship program paid the webmaster for each sign up. We also preform random audits of each program that we work with, and send test joins through the system to be sure that the sponsorship program counts every hit. That's it. It really means nothing if I own a program and tell you I do not shave. Everyone will tell you they do not shave. It means nothing if I tell you my program is great and converts well; everyone will tell you that their program is great and converts well. The Porn Posse, and Clicktruth, was developed to act as a true third party, without positive or negative impact on any program. We charge everyone the same amount. We do not have a program. We do not critique others intentions. We are here to say what our conclusions are, what we have seen over time to be true, and nothing else. Without telling you every element of our system, that is how we work. We are not in the business of slamming anyone. We have a list of webmasters that we keep that have proven to us over time that their systems are clean, and it is these webmasters that we recommend. If your sponsorship program is not on that list, or the place you send your traffic to is not on that list, it does not mean that they shave. I will repeat, we recommend programs that we "know" do not shave, and encourage referring webmasters to send their traffic there. We do not make money from the sign ups. We have a flat rate that we are paid by every sponsorship program in our network. We do not have favorites, and we charge everyone the same amount of money. It takes a very short amount of time, usually about 1 day to implement our scripts, and we have found, that with the assistance of the sponsorship program, we can be extremely accurate as to who does and does not shave. (Please disregard what is posted up on our sites, at both Clicktruth.com, and Pornposse.com We are creating new sites now, updating our lists, and adding the several new members that have been added since March / April. I am horrible about updating that site, I realize it is a neccesity, but i simply have several very positive programs to bring you all shortly that have taken all my time Bear with me). I will leave you with this. I am not going to sit on the board and defend this program, debate it, scream and yell, or be called a good guy, or an asshole, which ever you prefer. I will not do that, because to be perfectly candid, I have no patience or tolerance for it. Those of you who think I'm an ass, I doubt if you knew me you would think that way, or if you met me would say it to my face. Having said that, I am more than happy to meet with any of you, or speak to any of you on the phone or in an e-mail. I will leave you my information at the end of this post. I would like to take a minute and assume a defensive position for just a moment however. Oystein is a friend of mine. He has proven himself to be a good friend to me over time, and there is nothing more valuable to me than that. I am unfamiliar with MPA 2. I was asked to add my software to the offering of MPA 3 and I was, (and am) happy to do it. Say what you will about anyone in this space....Oystein is a good friend, and a good Man. There are several good people in this space, I am proud to say that several of them are my friends. We should stick together, all of us as an Industry / Community. There is a saying, (I forget who said it) " though dogs may quarrel amongst themselves, they are one against the wolf". We as an Industry / Community should be "one against the wolf". There are more people that do like us out there than do, that is no secrect, but shaving, back-stabbing, yelling at each other on these boards, and the general shit-ass non-business stuff that goes on publicly, should be taken off line. You may call me a asshole for saying so, but that is exactly why you will not get a reply from me on this board, or on this post. If you would like to speak to me, please send me an e-mail, at [email protected] You may also call me at 1-213-484-4224 Don't call me to rant, as you will not get the response you are looking for. I am here to assist you all, both Webmaster and Sponsor program alike. My years in this space have been good to me, and I am happy to do something that would assist us all going forward for a very long time; making money in a space that is liberal, forgiving, and free to express it self as genuinely as you all express your own thoughts and interests. An Industry by the way, that is not going anywhere for a very very long time. Best of luck Johnny V.