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Little girl drowns but survives

11-07-2003, 09:05 PM

Little girl drowns in fullerton the cops find her after one hour rush her to the hospital and was pronounced dead but then she moved her chest and they realized that she was alive she survived because the water was less then 50 degreez.

What a miracle
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11-07-2003, 09:07 PM

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11-07-2003, 09:10 PM

How did the water being 50 have a factor in this? Slows down your heart rate or something?
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11-07-2003, 09:17 PM

I just heard this on the news its a true story.

cold water factors in somehow.
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11-07-2003, 09:28 PM

Originally posted by KMR Stitch
How did the water being 50 have a factor in this? Slows down your heart rate or something?

When water is uber cold, it slows down almost all of your organs, and this, somehow, gives people who drown in really cold water a much higher recovery rate than those who drown in relativly warm water.

I've no idea how it works, maybe its kind of like cryogenic freezing?

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11-07-2003, 09:51 PM

Cold reduces a tissue's need for oxygen. But it can also shut down internal organs. Maybe the paramedics mistook hypthermic shock for drowning...found her in water, couldn't find a pulse or detect breath, assumed she drowned. Tried CPR it didn't change things. But she was still alive, just cold as fuck, breathing shallowly, pulse weak, and needed warmth. Or maybe she drowned *and* was suffering from hypothermia. Either way, I don't believe she was fully submerged in 50 degree water for an hour. Details of the story have to be missing...probably intentionally, to make for good radio.
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11-07-2003, 10:01 PM

It's called the Mammalian Diving Reflex. When your face hits cold water you body automatically hold a small amount of oxygen deep within your lungs and uses if sparingly to sustain life, sort of like hibernation. . Unfortunately people usually lose this reflex sometime during middle childhood, so that is why you rarely hear of adults being saved after hours of submersion in cold water . I also wanted to mention that you lose it after childhood, so that 250 gfyers don't go jumping into the nearest icey lake or river tonight to kill some time.

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11-07-2003, 10:02 PM

Anything over 10 minutes is really bad. Lack of oxygen that long will probably turn her into a veggie salad.

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11-07-2003, 10:04 PM

put a fly in the freezer, wait a bit, open the freezer and the fly will look like it's dead ... put the fly somewhere warm (like on your hand) and after a while it will fly away like nothing happened

old-school magician trick

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11-07-2003, 10:10 PM

Originally posted by Viper2K1
put a fly in the freezer, wait a bit, open the freezer and the fly will look like it's dead ... put the fly somewhere warm (like on your hand) and after a while it will fly away like nothing happened

old-school magician trick

put a fly in abottle of water
shake it like fuck
take out 'dead' fly

put salt on fly

watch it fly away very angry style

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11-07-2003, 10:22 PM

Originally posted by billie
It's called the Mammalian Diving Reflex. When your face hits cold water you body automatically hold a small amount of oxygen deep within your lungs and uses if sparingly to sustain life, sort of like hibernation. . Unfortunately people usually lose this reflex sometime during middle childhood, so that is why you rarely hear of adults being saved after hours of submersion in cold water . I also wanted to mention that you lose it after childhood, so that 250 gfyers don't go jumping into the nearest icey lake or river tonight to kill some time.

Interesting, just read up on this...people have survived even two hours of cold water immersion. Quite amazing. Clip from a web site on dealing with cold water emergencies:

Do not give up. Cold water victims look dead. Their skin is blue and cold to the touch. There may not be a detectable heart beat or breathing. The eyes are fixed and dilated and there is no other sign of life. However, if the water is cold, there is still a good chance of survival. People have been under cold water for long periods of time and have made complete recoveries.

Children and young people are the most frequent victims involved in cold water emergencies. They are however, the best candidates for resuscitation since their "mammalian diving reflex" is more pronounced. The colder the water and the younger the victim, the better chance they have of survival.
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11-07-2003, 10:37 PM

they should put that on the news, instead of all the crack heads and rapists

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11-08-2003, 06:32 AM

Originally posted by Viper2K1
put a fly in the freezer, wait a bit, open the freezer and the fly will look like it's dead ... put the fly somewhere warm (like on your hand) and after a while it will fly away like nothing happened

old-school magician trick

The same with ants.. but ya just need to put them in the refrigerator for a few minutes..

That's how you get them into an ant farm with no trouble..
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11-08-2003, 06:56 AM

Originally posted by Scootermuze

The same with ants.. but ya just need to put them in the refrigerator for a few minutes..

That's how you get them into an ant farm with no trouble..

well thank god...i was wondering how i was gonna fill up my ant farm

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11-08-2003, 01:30 PM

A toddler who was revived nearly two hours after she was believed to have drowned and 40 minutes after doctors had declared her dead was responding to touch and sound Saturday, hospital officials said.

Mackayala's mother found her floating face down in the backyard pool Friday morning, police Sgt. Sean Fares said. Police and paramedics tried to revive her and rushed her to Anaheim Memorial Medical Center, where doctors pronounced her dead.

Forty minutes later, police Detective Mike Kendrick was conducting a routine investigation into the death when he noticed Mackayala's chest was moving. He summoned doctors, who were able to revive her.

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11-08-2003, 01:53 PM

Wouldn?t want to be sent to that hospital!

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11-08-2003, 11:41 PM

apparently really young kids are the most likely to survive something like this. I saw one where the kid had been in freezing water for 3 hours and they revived him once his body warmed up!
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