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  • ThunderBalls
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    • Oct 2002
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    #1

    Once again Bush/Halliburton screws the country

    http://www.msnbc.com/news/989803.asp?0cv=CA01


    Nov. 5 ? There is controversy over importing gasoline into Iraq - a subject that seems pretty surprising since Iraq is sitting on one of the world?s largest oil reserves. But Iraq needs large amounts of gas to be brought in, and that has led to accusations that the contractor selected to do the job, Halliburton, is charging way too much.

    ON THE STREETS of Baghdad a desperate search for a precious commodity ? gasoline. One man says he waited in line five hours but the pump ran dry forcing him and countless others to rely on the roadside black market.

    The job of solving Iraq?s gasoline shortage and fixing its shattered oil infrastructure was awarded, without competitive bidding to Halliburton, the company once headed by Vice President Dick Cheney.
    Until Iraq can meet its own fuel needs, Halliburton is trucking in gasoline from Iraq?s neighbors, including Kuwait.

    ?Halliburton has been given a blank check.? But, there?s a big problem, according to Democratic Congressman Henry Waxman. He says the price Halliburton is paying Kuwait for gas is ?grossly excessive.?

    According to the Army Corps of Engineers Halliburton is paying Kuwait $2.65 a gallon while an Iraqi oil agency is paying only about a dollar a gallon.

    ?They don?t care about cost containment or holding down expenses because they know the U.S. taxpayers will pick up the cost,? said Waxman.

    And, at Baghdad gas stations the price is just 15 cents a gallon or less. Mohammed al-Jibouri, an Iraqi oil official, says he can get a lower price, in part, because of experience. ?We know the people and we know the companies so we can get a better deal.? Whatever the reason, Waxman claims Halliburton has wasted at least a $100 million of U.S. taxpayer money.

    Halliburton turned down an NBC News request for an interview, but in a written statement says any allegation that it is intentionally overpaying Kuwait is ?untrue, unfair and unwarranted.? And, defending its pricing, Halliburton adds: ?It is expensive to purchase, ship, and deliver fuel into a wartime situation especially when you are limited by short duration contracting? as the government requires.

    But oil analyst Philip Verleger, who agrees with Waxman that Halliburton has a conflict of interest with Kuwait says $2.65 a gallon for Kuwaiti gasoline is ?outrageous.? ?It?s as if they put the gasoline on the Queen Mary and taken it around the globe before they deliver it.?

    Late Wednesday, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers told NBC News it is considering taking away from Halliburton the job of importing Iraq?s gasoline and giving it to the Defense Department. But officials insist the reason is the long-term duration of the project and does not indicate any dissatisfaction with Halliburton?s performance.
  • XxXotic
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    • Jun 2002
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    #2
    gas in kuwait is only .15 per gallon... halliburton has other interests in the middle east, hence their overpaying for gas to secure other contracts
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    • directfiesta
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      • Oct 2002
      • 30234

      #3
      Tipical question:

      Why do you hate the US so much...LOL

      Let's hope Haliburton has no contract in the North Pole: imagine the price of ice...
      I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

      But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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      • genomega
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        • Feb 2002
        • 1190

        #4
        Originally posted by ThunderBalls
        http://www.msnbc.com/news/989803.asp?0cv=CA01


        Nov. 5 ? There is controversy over importing gasoline into Iraq - a subject that seems pretty surprising since Iraq is sitting on one of the world?s largest oil reserves. But Iraq needs large amounts of gas to be brought in, and that has led to accusations that the contractor selected to do the job, Halliburton, is charging way too much.

        ON THE STREETS of Baghdad a desperate search for a precious commodity ? gasoline. One man says he waited in line five hours but the pump ran dry forcing him and countless others to rely on the roadside black market.

        The job of solving Iraq?s gasoline shortage and fixing its shattered oil infrastructure was awarded, without competitive bidding to Halliburton, the company once headed by Vice President Dick Cheney.
        Until Iraq can meet its own fuel needs, Halliburton is trucking in gasoline from Iraq?s neighbors, including Kuwait.

        ?Halliburton has been given a blank check.? But, there?s a big problem, according to Democratic Congressman Henry Waxman. He says the price Halliburton is paying Kuwait for gas is ?grossly excessive.?

        According to the Army Corps of Engineers Halliburton is paying Kuwait $2.65 a gallon while an Iraqi oil agency is paying only about a dollar a gallon.

        ?They don?t care about cost containment or holding down expenses because they know the U.S. taxpayers will pick up the cost,? said Waxman.

        And, at Baghdad gas stations the price is just 15 cents a gallon or less. Mohammed al-Jibouri, an Iraqi oil official, says he can get a lower price, in part, because of experience. ?We know the people and we know the companies so we can get a better deal.? Whatever the reason, Waxman claims Halliburton has wasted at least a $100 million of U.S. taxpayer money.

        Halliburton turned down an NBC News request for an interview, but in a written statement says any allegation that it is intentionally overpaying Kuwait is ?untrue, unfair and unwarranted.? And, defending its pricing, Halliburton adds: ?It is expensive to purchase, ship, and deliver fuel into a wartime situation especially when you are limited by short duration contracting? as the government requires.

        But oil analyst Philip Verleger, who agrees with Waxman that Halliburton has a conflict of interest with Kuwait says $2.65 a gallon for Kuwaiti gasoline is ?outrageous.? ?It?s as if they put the gasoline on the Queen Mary and taken it around the globe before they deliver it.?

        Late Wednesday, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers told NBC News it is considering taking away from Halliburton the job of importing Iraq?s gasoline and giving it to the Defense Department. But officials insist the reason is the long-term duration of the project and does not indicate any dissatisfaction with Halliburton?s performance.
        I love it when the clueless comment on events that they have zero knowledge of.

        Waxman is just another no good cocksucker that loves it when the body bags come home, he just whishes there were more of them.


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        • BigFish
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          • Jan 2003
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          #5
          What does this have to do with Bush?

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          • directfiesta
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            • Oct 2002
            • 30234

            #6
            Originally posted by BigFish
            What does this have to do with Bush?

            I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

            But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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            • XxXotic
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              #7
              Originally posted by BigFish
              What does this have to do with Bush?
              aside from halliburton (and enron) footing the bill for the fla recount, and the fact that halliburton has contributed over 13 million to bush and cheney among a horde of other things tying bush's administration (as far back as bush senior) to halliburton, this has nothing to do with bush
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              • BigFish
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                • Jan 2003
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                #8
                Originally posted by directfiesta



                Why is that you anti-U.S. fags always never post worded responses, but always post pictures. Are you limited in your thinking or something?

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                • XxXotic
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                  • Jun 2002
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by BigFish


                  Why is that you anti-U.S. fags always never post worded responses, but always post pictures. Are you limited in your thinking or something?
                  "The job of solving Iraq?s gasoline shortage and fixing its shattered oil infrastructure was awarded, without competitive bidding to Halliburton, the company once headed by Vice President Dick Cheney"


                  did you miss that part?
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                  • BigFish
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                    • Jan 2003
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by XxXotic
                    aside from halliburton (and enron) footing the bill for the fla recount, and the fact that halliburton has contributed over 13 million to bush and cheney among a horde of other things tying bush's administration (as far back as bush senior) to halliburton, this has nothing to do with bush

                    I take it that you read that from the front page of cnn.com and concluded what they reported right then and there, am I correct? I mean, you didn't bother to actually go beyond the CNN reported numbers yourself did you?

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                    • ThunderBalls
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                      • Oct 2002
                      • 2926

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BigFish


                      Why is that you anti-U.S. fags always never post worded responses, but always post pictures. Are you limited in your thinking or something?

                      He who supports a corrupt govt is a traitor. So it appears YOU are the anti-U.S. fag.

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                      • BigFish
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                        • Jan 2003
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by XxXotic
                        "The job of solving Iraq?s gasoline shortage and fixing its shattered oil infrastructure was awarded, without competitive bidding to Halliburton, the company once headed by Vice President Dick Cheney"


                        did you miss that part?
                        No, I did not. But like I said over and over again: The main OBJECTIVE of the news media is to create HYPE.

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                        • MetaformX
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                          • Mar 2002
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by BigFish
                          What does this have to do with Bush?
                          OMG...I hope you were joking. Get a clue please. Thanx

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                          • BigFish
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                            • Jan 2003
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by ThunderBalls



                            He who supports a corrupt govt is a traitor. So it appears YOU are the anti-U.S. fag.
                            How are they corrupt? What are your credentials? The only facts that you know are the ones spewing out of reporter's mouths, PERIOD. You don't have the capability to process any information beyond news reports, do you?

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                            • genomega
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                              • Feb 2002
                              • 1190

                              #15
                              Originally posted by BigFish


                              Why is that you anti-U.S. fags always never post worded responses, but always post pictures. Are you limited in your thinking or something?
                              You got it, mindless marxists...


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                              • BigFish
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by MetaformX


                                OMG...I hope you were joking. Get a clue please. Thanx
                                Mind telling me what the clue is then since you seem to know it? How is Bush related to that story?

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                                • XxXotic
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                                  • Jun 2002
                                  • 8500

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by BigFish



                                  I take it that you read that from the front page of cnn.com and concluded what they reported right then and there, am I correct? I mean, you didn't bother to actually go beyond the CNN reported numbers yourself did you?
                                  I don't read CNN, nor do i watch it... i havent concluded anything but lets run through some facts

                                  1. cheney = vice president
                                  2. cheney = used to HEAD halliburton
                                  3. halliburton - paid for the fla recount
                                  4. halliburton - contributed over 13.8 million to bush/cheneys campaigns
                                  5. halliburton - was the leading company handling the oil after the 1st gulph war

                                  you know, if you're one of those "can't believe everything you hear/read or see" people then i really feel sorry for you, cuz you'll go through life never knowing anything and the only answers you'll ever come up with for anything will be jaded. If you REALLY need to have someone explain to you how halliburton and bush are connected then you really need to start keeping up with current events

                                  the bush family is nothing more then a glorified crime syndicate with power.
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                                  • directfiesta
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                                    • Oct 2002
                                    • 30234

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by BigFish


                                    Why is that you anti-U.S. fags always never post worded responses, but always post pictures. Are you limited in your thinking or something?
                                    Can you read???? It could be long...lol

                                    PS: I knew the "anti-US"shit would come out, but not that soon. That is why I had posted it earlier in this thread...lol

                                    Read:

                                    In a scathing expose of Halliburton's military contracts, for example, the New York Times revealed that the vice president's old company had been the main beneficiary of the Pentagon's rush to build anti-terrorism military bases around the world. This new work will cost taxpayers many billions, and, according to Pentagon investigators' estimates, without any cost controls the final bill will be considerably higher than if the military's own construction units do the work.

                                    Cheney denies having a role in securing those recent contracts, as he does knowledge of Halliburton's alleged accounting improprieties.

                                    Unfortunately for Halliburton's stockholders and employees, parlaying his Pentagon contacts into profit has proved to be Cheney's only major business success.

                                    ...

                                    Halliburton failed to disclose its accounting shenanigans to the SEC or the company's investors for more than a year afterward, leading to more than a dozen lawsuits alleging fraud, including one by Judicial Watch.

                                    And why are we not surprised that Halliburton's accounting firm was Arthur Andersen, earlier this year convicted of obstruction of justice for shredding documents in connection with Enron?

                                    Andersen's dubious methods have become the disgrace of American accounting. Cheney, however, was sufficiently enamored with it that in 1996 he glowingly endorsed the accounting firm in a video, thanking it for going "over and above the just-sort-of-normal, by-the-books audit arrangement."

                                    Of course, ordinary investors did not know they were getting less than "by-the-books" auditing.

                                    It is especially ugly that the president and vice president, men in a position to know just how sketchy the accounting practices of public companies are, were so eager to make our Social Security system a vehicle for pouring individuals' retirement money into a stock market they knew to be a house of cards.

                                    http://www.victoria.indymedia.org/ne...15_comment.php
                                    If you manage to finish reading and mainly COMPREHENDING this, I can post you more...

                                    PS: I have no problem with gays, but it so happens I am hetero... ask my lawyer, he takes care of the checks to the exs ...

                                    I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                    But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                    • directfiesta
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Oct 2002
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                                      #19
                                      The Iraqi oil company SOMO is paying only 97 cents a gallon to import gasoline from Kuwait to Iraq, they said.

                                      http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...ne_cheney_dc_4
                                      Maybe the contract should be given to that company. Naturally, the friends would be shorthanded so maybe political contribution to re-elect Bush would be less....
                                      I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                      But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                      • BigFish
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                                        • Jan 2003
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by XxXotic


                                        you know, if you're one of those "can't believe everything you hear/read or see" people then i really feel sorry for you, cuz you'll go through life never knowing anything and the only answers you'll ever come up with for anything will be jaded. If you REALLY need to have someone explain to you how halliburton and bush are connected then you really need to start keeping up with current events


                                        You're kidding right? Keeping up with current events by feeding myself directly with straight "facts" from MSNBC, CNN, Fox News?? That's funny. How about you read an <b>in-depth analysis</b> about the halliburton/bush connection from a professor at University of Chicago:

                                        http://www.danieldrezner.com/blog/

                                        If you're too lazy to read, since it seems you are, the title of his last article was: "Fables of the Reconstruction
                                        Bush isn't really favoring Halliburton and Bechtel."

                                        Credentials for DANIEL W. DREZNER include: M.A.s in economics and political science and a Ph.D. from Stanford University. Fellowships from the Council on Foreign Relations and Harvard University.

                                        I take it you will think you're smarter than him since you see a bush/hallburton connection and he does not. If so, post your credentials kid.

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                                        • BigFish
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                                          • Jan 2003
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by directfiesta


                                          If you manage to finish reading and mainly COMPREHENDING this, I can post you more...

                                          PS: I have no problem with gays, but it so happens I am hetero... ask my lawyer, he takes care of the checks to the exs ...

                                          New York Times???? HAH!!!!!!!! They're quoting the New York Times!! Better off quoting the Globe or the Enquirer.

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                                          • ThunderBalls
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Oct 2002
                                            • 2926

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by XxXotic
                                            I don't read CNN, nor do i watch it... i havent concluded anything but lets run through some facts

                                            1. cheney = vice president
                                            2. cheney = used to HEAD halliburton
                                            3. halliburton - paid for the fla recount
                                            4. halliburton - contributed over 13.8 million to bush/cheneys campaigns
                                            5. halliburton - was the leading company handling the oil after the 1st gulph war
                                            6. Cheney continues to receive annual payments from Halliburton of about $150,000 per year through 2005.

                                            7. Cheney holds 433,333 Halliburton stock options worth about 10.4 million dollars.

                                            8. Halliburton was handed multi-million dollar contracts without any bidding from competitors whatsoever.

                                            Yea, nothing wrong with this picture

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                                            • 12clicks
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                                              • Jan 2001
                                              • 19816

                                              #23
                                              who'd a thought there was so much political thought going on at the Fry-0-Lator?
                                              I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                              • XxXotic
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                                                • Jun 2002
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by BigFish



                                                You're kidding right? Keeping up with current events by feeding myself directly with straight "facts" from MSNBC, CNN, Fox News?? That's funny. How about you read an <b>in-depth analysis</b> about the halliburton/bush connection from a professor at University of Chicago:

                                                http://www.danieldrezner.com/blog/

                                                If you're too lazy to read, since it seems you are, the title of his last article was: "Fables of the Reconstruction
                                                Bush isn't really favoring Halliburton and Bechtel."

                                                Credentials for DANIEL W. DREZNER include: M.A.s in economics and political science and a Ph.D. from Stanford University. Fellowships from the Council on Foreign Relations and Harvard University.

                                                I take it you will think you're smarter than him since you see a bush/hallburton connection and he does not. If so, post your credentials kid.
                                                i dont need a degree or "credentials" to know that halliburton, cheney and bush are connected in dozens of ways. Has nothing to do with being smart or reading CNN, or MSNBC has everything to do with seeing whats actually going on and what hard evidence is ALREADY public
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                                                • 12clicks
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by ThunderBalls


                                                  6. Cheney continues to receive annual payments from Halliburton of about $150,000 per year through 2005.
                                                  This is a lie, half wit. that money goes to charity.

                                                  Originally posted by ThunderBalls

                                                  7. Cheney holds 433,333 Halliburton stock options worth about 10.4 million dollars.
                                                  This is a lie, half wit. those options are under water.

                                                  Originally posted by ThunderBalls
                                                  8. Halliburton was handed multi-million dollar contracts without any bidding from competitors whatsoever.
                                                  and have been for over 20 years. Just like every other major governmental contractor.
                                                  I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                  • directfiesta
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                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                    • 30234

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by BigFish


                                                    New York Times???? HAH!!!!!!!! They're quoting the New York Times!! Better off quoting the Globe or the Enquirer.
                                                    Lousy paper controlled by evil doers al-quaeda palestinians arabs towel heads ....
                                                    I wish I would be as self taught as you... You would have a beam in the eye and wouldn't see it.

                                                    Now, for a bit of history on the "noble" Bush Family....

                                                    http://www.hereinreality.com/familyvalues.html
                                                    I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                    But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                    • directfiesta
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                      • 30234

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by 12clicks

                                                      This is a lie, half wit. that money goes to charity.
                                                      After the facts were exposed... What a generous soul:

                                                      Despite the fact that he will earn over $600,000 from his connection with Halliburton while he is in office and holds stock options worth millions, the gullible public may believe that he has severed all his ties to the company that is repairing the infrastructure destroyed under the Bush administration.

                                                      Now that his Halliburton ties have been exposed, Cheney is saying he'll donate some of his profits to charity. Believe it or not.

                                                      http://www.blogscanada.com/blog/Perm...8-bce135582ea0
                                                      I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                      But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                      • ThunderBalls
                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                        • 2926

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by 12clicks

                                                        This is a lie, half wit. that money goes to charity.
                                                        Sorry dickbreath, wrong. Cheney at one time said he 'promised' it would go to charity but it has yet to happen.

                                                        Originally posted by 12clicks

                                                        This is a lie, half wit. those options are under water.
                                                        Provide proof.

                                                        Originally posted by 12clicks

                                                        and have been for over 20 years. Just like every other major governmental contractor.
                                                        Okay nazi boy, please list ONE govt contractor that has received govt contracts without any bidding that has no ties to this admin.

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                                                        • cold_ice
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                                                          • Jun 2002
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                                                          #29
                                                          Bush is a fucking idiot.IMHO I didn't vote for his fucking ass and I won't next time around either. So for all of you Bush haters just make sure you vote next time around and hopefully his dumb ass won't get re-elected

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                                                          • BigFish
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by XxXotic
                                                            i dont need a degree or "credentials" to know that halliburton, cheney and bush are connected in dozens of ways. Has nothing to do with being smart or reading CNN, or MSNBC has everything to do with seeing whats actually going on and what hard evidence is ALREADY public

                                                            You're right, of course you don't need credentials to form your opinion. So you're telling us that you rather have all your opinions formed by reading summaries of an events from MSNBC rather than a detailed essay of an event from a PhD from Stanford?

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                                                            • Why
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                                                              • Mar 2003
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by directfiesta
                                                              Let's hope Haliburton has no contract in the North Pole: imagine the price of ice...

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