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Shaving Experiment #2

11-05-2003, 04:54 AM

Tried to search for Chokers test mentioned on a recent thread, but could not find it.
Anyway, few weeks ago I tried my own. This is what I did and how it turned out.
I took one of my paysites that had good traffic and linked the Join button to a page that had 3 affiliate banners and text links to each.
The top of the page read
" Our join page is under reconstruction while we change our processors. Meanwhile if you still wish to join this site follow instructions below. These 3 great sites below are affiliates of ours. If you click the banners below and decide to join, simply copy and email us the confirmation email recieved and we will send you the codes you need to enter our site"

I recieved 54 emails confirmed and backed up with Sub# User/passes/ emails,etc.
Only 12 showed up on my stats.
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11-05-2003, 04:55 AM

Sponsor names please?

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11-05-2003, 04:55 AM

Holey shit... that's interesting.
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11-05-2003, 04:56 AM

if true... among other things, very very ugly. Your own paysite whether it be small or big is the only way to go IMHO Others feel different

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11-05-2003, 04:57 AM

and the scamming sponsors were.... ?
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11-05-2003, 04:57 AM

That's fucked up

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11-05-2003, 04:59 AM
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11-05-2003, 05:00 AM

wtf! which processor is that site using?

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11-05-2003, 05:09 AM

c'mon
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11-05-2003, 05:13 AM

Wow, nearly 80% of signups shaved, I always though that most sponsors shave in one or another way, but only ~5-10%, not 80%
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11-05-2003, 05:15 AM

Originally posted by DeadFidel
Tried to search for Chokers test mentioned on a recent thread, but could not find it.
Anyway, few weeks ago I tried my own. This is what I did and how it turned out.
I took one of my paysites that had good traffic and linked the Join button to a page that had 3 affiliate banners and text links to each.
The top of the page read
" Our join page is under reconstruction while we change our processors. Meanwhile if you still wish to join this site follow instructions below. These 3 great sites below are affiliates of ours. If you click the banners below and decide to join, simply copy and email us the confirmation email recieved and we will send you the codes you need to enter our site"

I recieved 54 emails confirmed and backed up with Sub# User/passes/ emails,etc.
Only 12 showed up on my stats.

Yep, that's the best way to catch them.

I'm surprised more webmasters don't do things like this. All you need to do is a simple pitch that if they sign up with any of your affiliate programs they'll get a bonus of some kind, be it access to a special download site, or whatever. You'll gather enough people that will do that to catch the thieving process red handed.

We should really stop calling it shaving. Its theft and fraud pure and simple.

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11-05-2003, 05:18 AM

omg, now that´s some serious shaving
you should post the sponsor..
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11-05-2003, 05:30 AM

That is truly fucked up!
Name them, they are stealing from you, and probably evry one else as well, and deserve no better!

And I hate when peple say shit like, "I`d rather push sites that make me XXX $ and shave, than a sites that makes me a little less and don`t shave". The bottom line is that they say they will give you your share of every single signup, and make people think that they do, by shaving! That is blatant theft, and nothing else!!

Even if they were to lower theyr payouts to a more realistic price, they would deffinately make you more if they ony payed 10$ per signup, instead of 40$, if they are shaving 80%!!!!!
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11-05-2003, 05:37 AM

Sponsor names please? I doubt you want to post them on a board.

w ( AT ) hioctane.com
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11-05-2003, 05:40 AM

Originally posted by Steve
Sponsor names please? I doubt you want to post them on a board.

w ( AT ) hioctane.com

jup please give us the names, also if you have a site with ccbil or another processor do they shave then too?
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11-05-2003, 05:41 AM

Originally posted by Hindsight
and the scamming sponsors were.... ?

It would be stupid of me to burn any bridges by mentioning specific sponcers etc.
As KRL said, do some home work.
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11-05-2003, 05:43 AM

This thread is fucking interesting.

Processors?
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11-05-2003, 05:53 AM

Originally posted by DeadFidel

It would be stupid of me to burn any bridges by mentioning specific sponcers etc.
As KRL said, do some home work.

Sounds like your maintaining your faith in & perputating the use of some pretty rickety bridges.

They must lead to some pretty big companies.

Luckily there is the "search" button next to your name so that your posting history can be reviewed.....

let the witch hunt begin!
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11-05-2003, 05:56 AM

Originally posted by DeadFidel

It would be stupid of me to burn any bridges by mentioning specific sponcers etc.
As KRL said, do some home work.

Pretty sad when you have to go through extensive tests of each and every sponsor you use just to see who shaves the least so you can use them.
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11-05-2003, 06:02 AM

Hey DF... let's start here...

Are they a GFY advertiser?
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11-05-2003, 06:05 AM

That's some serious shaving. Good idea to catch them.
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11-05-2003, 06:24 AM

GoBigtime,
I would rather make a few C-notes a week from these sponcers. Better than zero, EVEN is they shave.
Do you understand that it is part of the industry?
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11-05-2003, 06:25 AM

now you've got me wondering too. i hate shaving. i would pull all my traffic immediately and send it to someone i can trust

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11-05-2003, 06:34 AM

Originally posted by goBigtime
Hey DF... let's start here...

Are they a GFY advertiser?

Not sure why I would power your engine after your last post?
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11-05-2003, 06:36 AM

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11-05-2003, 06:44 AM

Originally posted by BT_trafficcashgold
post your shaving experience here..... www.baldworld.com

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11-05-2003, 06:44 AM

Originally posted by DeadFidel

It would be stupid of me to burn any bridges by mentioning specific sponcers etc.
As KRL said, do some home work.

burn bridges to a sponsor that shave 80% of your signups ?
huh?

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11-05-2003, 06:48 AM

You don't want to burn bridges? So you're not worthy? I mean, if they shaved you, and you're a 100% possitive, then it is THEM who burned a bridge, not you.

I can't stand people who come in and complain, or share such experience without backing shit up. Speak up man, you're just as bad as them if you tell us someone is shaving, yet dont bother to inform us who it is so we can be ware, or atleast test it so we can see for ourselves.
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11-05-2003, 06:50 AM

Maybe googleking has the right idea after all:

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11-05-2003, 06:56 AM

Originally posted by Veterans Day
.... Your own paysite whether it be small or big is the only way to go IMHO Others feel different

Exactly
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11-05-2003, 07:01 AM

Originally posted by GoLiaT

burn bridges to a sponsor that shave 80% of your signups ?
huh?

What ever little amount it is, It still goes into my bank account while I am eating, fucking or sleeping.

The Thread was ABOUT SHAVING, why the fuck would anyone with a half a brain do a second grade tattle tale.

Do the test yourself.

Funny how you people want to prove me wrong, when you know I am right.
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11-05-2003, 07:02 AM

Originally posted by DeadFidel
GoBigtime,
I would rather make a few C-notes a week from these sponcers. Better than zero, EVEN is they shave.
Do you understand that it is part of the industry?

I can understand somewhat where you are coming from. Obviously this is your bread and butter right now and the bills and fun has to be paid for. BUT 80%!

You did a great test. Now take the time to add in the revenue from the shaved sales. Now multiply that by how long you have been with that sponsor. If you are still ok with the amount you SHOULD HAVE made and still don't want to shed any more light on this then all I can say is thanks for the information and good luck.

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11-05-2003, 07:14 AM

Originally posted by DeadFidel
GoBigtime,
I would rather make a few C-notes a week from these sponcers. Better than zero, EVEN is they shave.
Do you understand that it is part of the industry?

Fraud / thievery AKA "shaving" is as much a part of the industry as high dollar payouts. I understand that, as do most people reading this thread..

But the amount of shaving you are talking about up there is ABSURD.
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11-05-2003, 07:16 AM

I guess if we don't like us getting shaved, we better stick to ATK Natural and Hairy site

(maybe it's a really bad time for me to go kiddin)

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11-05-2003, 07:17 AM

Originally posted by DeadFidel

Not sure why I would power your engine after your last post?

This post?

Luckily there is the "search" button next to your name so that your posting history can be reviewed.....

Oh.. all I meant there was that it would be easy for someone to review your posts and try to find out which sponsors you pushed -- I wasn't insinuating that you made this thing up or anything.

Unfortunately I believe it
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11-05-2003, 07:23 AM

Originally posted by DeadFidel
GoBigtime,
I would rather make a few C-notes a week from these sponcers. Better than zero, EVEN is they shave.
Do you understand that it is part of the industry?

Anyway the bottom line here is MOST people don't shave that bad. If I was forced to guess, I would guess ~20% is probably average...

Then again, SOME PEOPLE OUT THERE PROBABLY DON'T SHAVE AT ALL!! Wtf are THEY thinking huh? Those fools... trying to do honest business and shit.

So as far as you making a few C-notes from these sponsors.. it sounds like you would be making $2000+ a week instead of $400+ a week if you found a good honest sponsor.

Shaving (stealing & committing fraud) is bad enough as it is... but If you shave over 25% you deserve to be exposed.
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11-05-2003, 07:31 AM

Interesting read.

KRL is right that ists fraud in simple words.

But look at the industry you are in, it a given that you will get shaved or whateevr you want to call it.

But 80 percent wow
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11-05-2003, 07:32 AM

Shaving (stealing & committing fraud) is bad enough as it is... but If you shave over 25% you deserve to be exposed.

huh? So shaving 25% is OK then?

As someone mentioned earlier.. its a matter of integrity of program and reputation....
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11-05-2003, 07:36 AM

cough up the names already this is bs!
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11-05-2003, 07:39 AM

damn 80%..that is steep

try us out..no shave

that is why we got our own program..tired of seeing too many signups walking away

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11-05-2003, 07:44 AM

Originally posted by fatbaby

huh? So shaving 25% is OK then?

Of course It's not OK. But it's to be expected bad a sadly high percent of the industry.

On the other hand, in some cases, you are probably asking to get shaved. For example, if you think you are going to get $80 a signup or something.

But still... 80% shaves? lol forget about it.
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11-05-2003, 07:54 AM

post the motherfucking name

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11-05-2003, 08:02 AM

this guy is a faggot he should post the name

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11-05-2003, 08:30 AM

OK folks, let's put a little theory behind this 80% shit concept. I realize some people booked marked the site or wrote the DN on a fucking napkin, whatever...
That may change the #'s a little but not even close to what we already know.
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11-05-2003, 08:32 AM

Everyone that posts a thread and does not reveal names should not post any threads!

If you dont have the balls dont start stupid threads bitches.
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11-05-2003, 08:33 AM

Originally posted by DeadFidel
OK folks, let's put a little theory behind this 80% shit concept. I realize some people booked marked the site or wrote the DN on a fucking napkin, whatever...
That may change the #'s a little but not even close to what we already know.

tell who it was or STFU

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11-05-2003, 08:38 AM

Name names.
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11-05-2003, 08:39 AM

This thread is fucking worthless without the names.
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11-05-2003, 08:40 AM

Hes obviously happy with the amount of money he is making regardless of the shave. I think his point was to reiterate that shaving is alive (some people are in denial) and to show how he discovered it.

I would love for him to throw a name out there but I can see why he doesn't. Bottom line is try his method with your sponsors. Check your results and then if you feel comfortable. Post the name.

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11-05-2003, 08:42 AM

Think about this for a minute....

This industry is evolving rapidly. Everyday it becomes harder and harder for any newbie to come in and make coin so they drop like flies. What does this mean down the road? Thats right, a limited pool of webmasters to feed from.

That puts quite a bit of pressure on shaving sponsors right there. Sure they can get away with it right now since no one will blow the whistle.
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