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  • goBigtime
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    • Nov 2002
    • 7761

    #1

    HEADS UP - New major IE exploit.

    http://www.computerworld.com.au/inde...16298&eid=-255



    Internet Explorer carved up by zero-day hole

    Kieren McCarthy, Techworld.com

    09/06/2004 08:28:25

    Two new vulnerabilities have been discovered in Internet Explorer which allow a complete bypass of security and provide system access to a computer, including the installation of files on someone's hard disk without their knowledge, through a single click.

    Worse, the holes have been discovered from analysis of an existing link on the Internet and a fully functional demonstration of the exploit have been produced and been shown to affect even fully patched versions of Explorer.

    It has been rated "extremely critical" by security company Secunia, and the only advice is to disable Active Scripting support for all but trusted websites.

    The discovery stems from Dutch researcher Jelmer who was sent an Internet link which he was warned used unknown Explorer vulnerabilities to install adware on his computer. He found it did and embarked on a detailed analysis of the link, which demonstrates an extremely sophisticated use of encrypted code to bypass the Web browser's security.

    In simple terms, the link uses an unknown vulnerability to open up a local Explorer help file -- ms-its:C:\WINDOWS\Help\iexplore.chm::/iegetsrt.htm. It delays executing anything immediately but instead uses another unknown vulnerability to run another file which in turn runs some script. This script is then used to run more script. And finally that script is used to run an exploit that Microsoft Corp. has been aware of since August 2003 but hasn't patched.

    That exploit -- Adodb.stream -- has not been viewed as particularly dangerous, since it only works when the file containing the code is present on the user's hard disk. The problem comes in the fact that the Help file initially opened is assumed to be safe since it is a local file and so has minimal security restrictions.

    By using the unknown exploits, code is installed within the help file window, all security efforts are bypassed, and the Adodb.stream exploit is then used to download files on the Internet direct to the hard disk.

    What this means in reality is that if you click on a malicious link in an email or on the Internet, a malicious user can very quickly have complete control of your PC. And there is no patch available. You can see it happen by click here.

    With the code already available on the Net, this is effectively a security nightmare ... unless you're a Mozilla or Opera user that is.
  • loverboy
    When it rains, it pours
    • May 2003
    • 20609

    #2
    nothing beats Netscape

    IE sucks

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    • AMADude
      Confirmed User
      • Apr 2004
      • 3875

      #3
      Fuck IE.
      I use Mozilla.
      No sig, just here to fuck around.

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      • AvanteGuard
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        • Jan 2004
        • 451

        #4
        Originally posted by loverboy
        nothing beats Netscape

        IE sucks
        Except FireFox
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        • juicylinks
          So Fucking Banned
          • Apr 2001
          • 122992

          #5
          With the code already available on the Net, this is effectively a security nightmare ... unless you're a Mozilla or Opera user that is

          great

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          • Veterans Day
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            • Jul 2003
            • 8403

            #6
            auto windows update, really simple.......NEXT
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            • Dirty F
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Jul 2001
              • 59204

              #7
              Theres a new exploit like this every month...use IE and you are never safe.

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              • M_M
                Confirmed User
                • May 2004
                • 1167

                #8
                Microsoft supports spyware

                I dont see other logical explanation to them not fixing known security holes for months
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                • Jace
                  FBOP Class Of 2013
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 35562

                  #9
                  windows update...why the fuck do people have a problem with updating? every time there is a new update, a little icon appears in my task tray and I get the update...how hard is that?

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                  • TheSwed
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                    • Feb 2004
                    • 3483

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Veterans Day
                    auto windows update, really simple.......NEXT

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                    • skillfull
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                      • Apr 2003
                      • 4716

                      #11
                      use firefox or opera
                      still using IE is just being idiot
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                      • Veterans Day
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                        • Jul 2003
                        • 8403

                        #12
                        Originally posted by skillfull
                        use firefox or opera
                        still using IE is just being idiot
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                        • strobi
                          Confirmed User
                          • Nov 2002
                          • 7383

                          #13
                          exploiters are making tons of money again! hurray!!

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                          • AnalProbe
                            pain in the Ass
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 3727

                            #14
                            IE 3.0 works fine for me.

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                            • Helix
                              Confirmed User
                              • Feb 2002
                              • 6021

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Veterans Day
                              auto windows update, really simple.......NEXT
                              And finally that script is used to run an exploit that Microsoft Corp. has been aware of since August 2003 but hasn't patched.

                              so much for update

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                              • goBigtime
                                Confirmed User
                                • Nov 2002
                                • 7761

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Veterans Day
                                auto windows update, really simple.......NEXT



                                Originally posted by goBigtime
                                http://www.computerworld.com.au/inde...16298&eid=-255



                                "......And finally that script is used to run an exploit that Microsoft Corp. has been aware of since August 2003 but hasn't patched."
                                ^ (regarding MSFT's timeliness on patching vulnerabilities)

                                "... And there is no patch available."
                                ^ (regarding this NEW exploit)

                                With the (malicious) code already available on the Net, this is effectively a security nightmare

                                ... unless you're a Mozilla or Opera user that is.
                                Wtf are you NEXT'ing about? Can't you read?
                                Last edited by goBigtime; 06-09-2004, 09:04 AM.

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                                • Sambo
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Mar 2004
                                  • 1187

                                  #17
                                  Went to firefox a couple of weeks ago......

                                  Will never use IE again!!

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                                  • goBigtime
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Nov 2002
                                    • 7761

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Sambo
                                    Went to firefox a couple of weeks ago......

                                    Will never use IE again!!

                                    Be sure to get the googlebar at http://googlebar.mozdev.org & tweak it how you like it.

                                    The mozilla googlebar has a ton of cool one-click goodies on it like image searching, google groups, google news, dictionary & thesaurus lookups, page translation, backlinks etc.

                                    You have to play with it a little to get it setup nice though.

                                    I have 3 toolbar strips total on mine...





                                    Notice the instant useragent switcher .... so you can make yourself look like a search engine spider & look at peoples pages how they want them to appear for the SE's :graucho
                                    Last edited by goBigtime; 06-09-2004, 09:10 AM.

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                                    • Sambo
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Mar 2004
                                      • 1187

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by goBigtime
                                      Be sure to get the googlebar at http://googlebar.mozdev.org & tweak it how you like it.

                                      The mozilla googlebar has a ton of cool one-click goodies on it like image searching, google groups, google news, dictionary & thesaurus lookups, page translation, backlinks etc.
                                      Thanks.... I was looking for one of those!!

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                                      • goBigtime
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Nov 2002
                                        • 7761

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by goBigtime

                                        Notice the instant useragent switcher .... so you can make yourself look like a search engine spider & look at peoples pages how they want them to appear for the SE's :graucho


                                        I don't use that UA switcher all the time though... I can't stand more than 3 toolbars and I use that precious little space for my quick site links / bookmarks.

                                        To get it down to 3 functional strips like that I moved all the bookmarks to that toolbar and then disabled the bookmark toolbar. (in... view | toolbars )




                                        Btw... middle-click on any link to open a new tab!
                                        (and middle click on the tab to close it)
                                        Last edited by goBigtime; 06-09-2004, 09:14 AM.

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                                        • Sambo
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Mar 2004
                                          • 1187

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by goBigtime

                                          Btw... middle-click on any link to open a new tab!
                                          (and middle click on the tab to close it)
                                          Great tip.....

                                          Thanks again!!

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                                          • submitter
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • May 2004
                                            • 570

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by JaceXXX
                                            windows update...why the fuck do people have a problem with updating? every time there is a new update, a little icon appears in my task tray and I get the update...how hard is that?
                                            how many of you have buyed windows?
                                            i, no.
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                                            • jwerd
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                                              • Jun 2003
                                              • 1953

                                              #23
                                              I am so happy I switched my mail client and browser to Firebird and Firefox So much better.
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                                              • nofx
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Nov 2002
                                                • 16826

                                                #24
                                                and this is why i love and use Opera, www.opera.com

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                                                • HarryHo
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                                                  • Sep 2001
                                                  • 100

                                                  #25
                                                  jESUS CHRIST all the idiots respond again

                                                  HELLO MORONS .

                                                  NETSCAPE HAS NO SECURITY
                                                  FIRECHEESE/OPERA HAS NO SECURITY and isn't even functional

                                                  I will tell you the difference between your cheesy fucked up browsers and i.e.

                                                  Internet explorer runs updates regularly to patch holes.

                                                  This hole isnt new , i have been using it for months.

                                                  Firefox and netscape are the swiss cheese of the browser industry.

                                                  I.e. is the whipping post for the browser industry.

                                                  Anyone who is a webmaster and tells you they dont use i.e. is full of shit or very very poor. They may not use it very often , but if they dont use it they don't know what everyone else is seeing..

                                                  Suprise Suprise nobody like i.e. , but its better than your browser

                                                  BTW the same holes exist as the holes explained in the article in both opera and netscape, they just don't report them because they don't plan on patching them.
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                                                  • Theo
                                                    HAL 9000
                                                    • May 2001
                                                    • 34515

                                                    #26
                                                    someone send this thread to Hooper

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                                                    • HarryHo
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Sep 2001
                                                      • 100

                                                      #27
                                                      btw if anyone wants to see a sample of this security hole i would be glad to show you how it works..
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                                                      • DamageX
                                                        Marketing & Strategy
                                                        • Jun 2001
                                                        • 14293

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Veterans Day
                                                        auto windows update, really simple.......NEXT
                                                        Don't tell me that you're so stupid that after reading that text you still think windows update will fix that hole?
                                                        Whitehat is for chumps

                                                        If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                                        • Sambo
                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                          • 1187

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by HarryHo
                                                          jESUS CHRIST all the idiots respond again

                                                          HELLO MORONS .

                                                          NETSCAPE HAS NO SECURITY
                                                          FIRECHEESE/OPERA HAS NO SECURITY and isn't even functional

                                                          I will tell you the difference between your cheesy fucked up browsers and i.e.

                                                          Internet explorer runs updates regularly to patch holes.

                                                          This hole isnt new , i have been using it for months.

                                                          Firefox and netscape are the swiss cheese of the browser industry.

                                                          I.e. is the whipping post for the browser industry.

                                                          Anyone who is a webmaster and tells you they dont use i.e. is full of shit or very very poor. They may not use it very often , but if they dont use it they don't know what everyone else is seeing..

                                                          Suprise Suprise nobody like i.e. , but its better than your browser

                                                          BTW the same holes exist as the holes explained in the article in both opera and netscape, they just don't report them because they don't plan on patching them.
                                                          I updated IE every day.... if an update was available

                                                          Every day IE was rendered useless by some crap spyware etc.....

                                                          I have been using FireFox for 2 weeks without a single problem

                                                          A simple fact

                                                          If I am building sites I always veiw them in IE..... but so far I have never seen a difference between IE and FireFox rendering of my pages.... again a simple fact
                                                          Last edited by Sambo; 06-09-2004, 09:47 AM.

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                                                          • DamageX
                                                            Marketing & Strategy
                                                            • Jun 2001
                                                            • 14293

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Sambo
                                                            I updated IE every day.... if an update was available

                                                            Every day IE was renedered useless by some crap spyware etc.....

                                                            I have been using FireFox for 2 weeks without a single problem

                                                            A simple fact
                                                            Why do you think that is, Einstein? Nobody bothers creating exploits for Mozilla and Opera, because they have so small market shares. It's not like everybody's out to fuck it up for MS. It's all business. Moron.
                                                            Whitehat is for chumps

                                                            If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                                            • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                              best designer on GFY
                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                              • 30307

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                                              someone send this thread to Hooper
                                                              Fuck that, delete the thread already just incase.

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                                                              • Sambo
                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                • Mar 2004
                                                                • 1187

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by DamageX
                                                                Why do you think that is, Einstein? Nobody bothers creating exploits for Mozilla and Opera, because they have so small market shares. It's not like everybody's out to fuck it up for MS. It's all business. Moron.
                                                                I know the reason for it......

                                                                But it dosnt change the fact that I dont have problems!!!!

                                                                And thats the important thing..... moron

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                                                                • jimmyf
                                                                  OU812
                                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                                  • 12651

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Sambo
                                                                  Thanks.... I was looking for one of those!!

                                                                  I was also

                                                                  thanks
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                                                                  • jimmyf
                                                                    OU812
                                                                    • Feb 2001
                                                                    • 12651

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by submitter
                                                                    how many of you have buyed windows?
                                                                    i, no.
                                                                    go buy it then.
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                                                                    • goBigtime
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                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                      • 7761

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by HarryHo

                                                                      NETSCAPE HAS NO SECURITY
                                                                      FIRECHEESE/OPERA HAS NO SECURITY and isn't even functional
                                                                      Actually, FireFox & Mozilla are open-source community based projects contributed to by people all over the world. If a vulnerability is discovered, they get fixed pronto.


                                                                      Originally posted by HarryHo
                                                                      BTW the same holes exist as the holes explained in the article in both opera and netscape, they just don't report them because they don't plan on patching them.
                                                                      Note that he's not talking about open source Mozilla / FireFox.

                                                                      Otherwise it would be even more clear that he doesn't understand how open source communities work. "They just don't report them..." there are no big bug-suppression conspiracies like that in open source. It sort of defeats the purpose.


                                                                      Anyway you can test various browsers here and see how they compare http://bcheck.scanit.be/bcheck

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                                                                      • Manowar
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                                                                        • Dec 2003
                                                                        • 71528

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Firefox, its whats for breakfast

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                                                                        • HarryHo
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Sep 2001
                                                                          • 100

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Sambo
                                                                          I know the reason for it......

                                                                          But it dosnt change the fact that I dont have problems!!!!

                                                                          And thats the important thing..... moron
                                                                          Guess what the farmer sad when the cow died...?

                                                                          " gee thats the first time she has ever done that "
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                                                                          • jimmyf
                                                                            OU812
                                                                            • Feb 2001
                                                                            • 12651

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Sambo
                                                                            I know the reason for it......

                                                                            But it dosnt change the fact that I dont have problems!!!!

                                                                            And thats the important thing..... moron
                                                                            this correct.
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                                                                            • DamageX
                                                                              Marketing & Strategy
                                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                                              • 14293

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by HarryHo
                                                                              Guess what the farmer sad when the cow died...?

                                                                              " gee thats the first time she has ever done that "
                                                                              Whitehat is for chumps

                                                                              If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                                                              • jimmyf
                                                                                OU812
                                                                                • Feb 2001
                                                                                • 12651

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by goBigtime
                                                                                Actually, FireFox & Mozilla are open-source community based projects contributed to by people all over the world. If a vulnerability is discovered, they get fixed pronto.




                                                                                Note that he's not talking about open source Mozilla / FireFox.

                                                                                Otherwise it would be even more clear that he doesn't understand how open source communities work. "They just don't report them..." there are no big bug-suppression conspiracies like that in open source. It sort of defeats the purpose.


                                                                                Anyway you can test various browsers here and see how they compare http://bcheck.scanit.be/bcheck
                                                                                And i might add.

                                                                                this is correct.
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                                                                                • Sambo
                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                                                  • 1187

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by HarryHo
                                                                                  Guess what the farmer sad when the cow died...?

                                                                                  " gee thats the first time she has ever done that "
                                                                                  Well the cow is fit and well at the moment.....

                                                                                  Which is better than I can say for that lame duck I was using

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                                                                                  • goBigtime
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Nov 2002
                                                                                    • 7761

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Not that I rely on online browser based security tests to tell me if I'm "secure" or not,

                                                                                    ...but for shits & giggles, here are my results from:

                                                                                    http://bcheck.scanit.be/bcheck


                                                                                    Browser Security Test Results

                                                                                    Dear Customer,

                                                                                    The Browser Security Test is finished. Please find the results below:
                                                                                    High Risk Vulnerabilities 0
                                                                                    Medium Risk Vulnerabilities 0
                                                                                    Low Risk Vulnerabilities 0


                                                                                    FireFox here.
                                                                                    Last edited by goBigtime; 06-09-2004, 10:10 AM.

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                                                                                    • jimmyf
                                                                                      OU812
                                                                                      • Feb 2001
                                                                                      • 12651

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by HarryHo
                                                                                      Guess what the farmer sad when the cow died...?

                                                                                      " gee thats the first time she has ever done that "
                                                                                      guess what?

                                                                                      you be hard headed, keep on using IE.
                                                                                      more power 2 you.

                                                                                      because I don't think it smart, but that's just me.

                                                                                      I never have and never will use Outlook, used and still check my pages with IE.
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                                                                                      • goBigtime
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Nov 2002
                                                                                        • 7761

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        bump

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                                                                                        • winter
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • May 2001
                                                                                          • 570

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          I.E. 6.0, Googlebar, and norton internet security. SUCK IT OPERA/NUTSCRAPE BITCHES



                                                                                          The Browser Security Test is finished. Please find the results below:

                                                                                          High Risk Vulnerabilities 0
                                                                                          Medium Risk Vulnerabilities 0
                                                                                          Low Risk Vulnerabilities 0

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                                                                                          • Holly
                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                                                            • 10017

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by winter
                                                                                            I.E. 6.0, Googlebar, and norton internet security. SUCK IT OPERA/NUTSCRAPE BITCHES



                                                                                            The Browser Security Test is finished. Please find the results below:

                                                                                            High Risk Vulnerabilities 0
                                                                                            Medium Risk Vulnerabilities 0
                                                                                            Low Risk Vulnerabilities 0
                                                                                            FWIW, I run IE 6, Norton, and Zonealarm, and I got the same results. I wonder if anyone with IE has had vulnerabilities to show up. And if so, does it actually tell you what to do to fix them or give you links to the patches? Or is it a "pay us/buy our software and we'll tell you the fix" deal?

                                                                                            My wmp opened, I got a download box, and a bunch of other crap, so I was surprised I passed.
                                                                                            Last edited by Holly; 06-09-2004, 12:19 PM.
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                                                                                            • AdultNex
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                                              • 8985

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by goBigtime
                                                                                              Be sure to get the googlebar at http://googlebar.mozdev.org & tweak it how you like it.

                                                                                              The mozilla googlebar has a ton of cool one-click goodies on it like image searching, google groups, google news, dictionary & thesaurus lookups, page translation, backlinks etc.

                                                                                              You have to play with it a little to get it setup nice though.

                                                                                              I have 3 toolbar strips total on mine...





                                                                                              Notice the instant useragent switcher .... so you can make yourself look like a search engine spider & look at peoples pages how they want them to appear for the SE's :graucho
                                                                                              That won't work for some cloaked pages.

                                                                                              Just changing the useragent will do nothing.

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                                                                                              • cluck
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Dec 2002
                                                                                                • 5248

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                It's not new. Sorry.
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                                                                                                • Elli
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                                                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                                                  • 17991

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Just for fun I turned off ZoneAlarm and ran only mozilla 1.6. And this is what I got:

                                                                                                  The Browser Security Test is finished. Please find the results below:
                                                                                                  High Risk Vulnerabilities 0
                                                                                                  Medium Risk Vulnerabilities 0
                                                                                                  Low Risk Vulnerabilities 0
                                                                                                  email: [email protected]

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                                                                                                  • Diligent
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Aug 2003
                                                                                                    • 1594

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    With Firefox, the only crap I may have to put up with is JS window-resizing..

                                                                                                    HarryHo seems quite familiar with the mentioned exploit... Makes You wonder
                                                                                                    if he isn't making coin on it

                                                                                                    Also.. he seems to be enough of a moron to believe he can convert us non-IE's
                                                                                                    back from the safer gear..
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