anyone who has a clue knows that.
only thing that matters is the size of the check..........
only thing that matters is the size of the check..........
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This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!
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Meaningfulness of ratios is directly proportional to how much you pay for bandwidth.
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Ratios are important. All numbers are important. Thats why God invented spreadsheets.Comment
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it always amazes me how CLUELESS some idiots are.Originally posted by MetaMan
ratios mean everything when u understand your traffic.
do you have any IDEA or even a fucking clue how many ways the same number can be manulipated to look favorable to someone and unfavorable to another.This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!
Now read without the word dog.Comment
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Ratios could be very sexy!
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depends, if you're sending the same kind of traffic from the same kind of ad to the same sponsor and your ratio turns from 1:300 to 1:5000 then it's useful as a wake up call.
Then again in general i agree, i prefer to make 10k at 1:1000 than $100 at 1:50Comment
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Sleazy is right. Show me the bottom line profit after you take out all your costs. That's the only number that counts. Everything else can be twisted and played with.
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dude dont call me an idiot when u cant fucking understand how to read a msg,Originally posted by SleazyDream
it always amazes me how CLUELESS some idiots are.
do you have any IDEA or even a fucking clue how many ways the same number can be manulipated to look favorable to someone and unfavorable to another.
wat i was saying if u r 0:10000 and $0 are u going to stick with someone? wat i was saying is i look at them hand in hand.
and if u filter traffic u want to know conversions based on wat country can convert on wat site.Comment
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Assuming your using the same sponsor, same payout rate, etc... then ratios matter.. if im converting 1:500 with one of there sites, then i will try a different site, and if im converting 1:100.. then im making more money.. ratios are just a reference to go by when working woth your own traffic.. but in the end, yes you are right..
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but its soo entertaining to compare ratios from prior weeks...
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I worry about my ratio of work to the amount of the check.
So what if it's 1 billion clicks for a signup if it was 10 minutes of work.
Sucks when it's a week's work for shit signups.Comment
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you're right, I shouldn't call you an idiot.Originally posted by MetaMan
dude dont call me an idiot when u cant fucking understand how to read a msg,
wat i was saying if u r 0:10000 and $0 are u going to stick with someone? wat i was saying is i look at them hand in hand.
and if u filter traffic u want to know conversions based on wat country can convert on wat site.
you're a CLUELESS IDIOT.This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!
Now read without the word dog.Comment
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funny i started a similar thread like this on another board few months ago .
But i don't get Phat Cheques like Sleazy
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i think that manitoba air is getting to your head, go hunt some polar bars for dinner.Originally posted by SleazyDream
you're right, I shouldn't call you an idiot.
you're a CLUELESS IDIOT.Comment
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who the fuck cares about Sleazys fat checks?Originally posted by webgurl
funny i started a similar thread like this on another board few months ago .
But i don't get Phat Cheques like Sleazy
I think I know it?
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It might be?
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Idiots!
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trueOriginally posted by SleazyDream
anyone who has a clue knows that.
only thing that matters is the size of the check..........
the only people that care about ratios are people sending 60 clicks a day
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The ratio on clicks you track to sponsors I think means something
However ratios of sponsors who track 2nd page, join page unique ips in 24 hours etc etc MEAN SHIT.
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Relax ,Originally posted by maxjohan
who the fuck cares about Sleazys fat checks?
I think I know it?
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It might be?
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Idiots!
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Jealous
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I think so ....
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This is true!Originally posted by wargames
true the only people that care about ratios are people sending 60 clicks a day
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My best ratios are for sites where the traffic has been filtered down to the smallest niche possible. My biggest $$ are for the mass appeal sites that get the most clicks (and relatively low ratios).
Truth be told, there are very few instances where one can accurately compare ratios in any meaningful manner, other than comparing different reporting periods for the same sponsor.
If you are trying to optimize your traffic for high ratios instead of high dollars, you are hurting yourself.!Comment
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I wouldn't say ratios are useless. Of course, the bottom line is what matters most, but let's say you're promoting a particular sponsor.
Say you send them 50 thousand uniques, and convert at 1 in 1000 at 30 bucks per. That's $1500. Now.. You figure you might wanna change things up. Improve those ratios and maximise your profit on your traffic. So you change your banner/ad/whatever, and this time around you send 100 thousand uniques. Now you make $2300 bucks. Wow, you've made more money. Good stuff. But by using ratios, you'll see that your previous ad was more effective.
Granted, you could compare 50 thousand to 100 thousand and say that you should have made about twice as much, but that's still using ratios to an extent, even if you're not actually whippin' out the old calculator.26 + 6 = 1Comment
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and paysite owners.Originally posted by wargames
true the only people that care about ratios are people sending 60 clicks a day
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Well said, not many seem to understand this either.Originally posted by SleazyDream
anyone who has a clue knows that.
only thing that matters is the size of the check..........Comment
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I think Sleazy is right, there are actually only a very very few numbers you really can compare to eachother, and sponsor stats are more or less useless ones. And more important than a 5% better conversion rate is that you'll get your money at the end of the period.Comment
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Mkay...Originally posted by SleazyDream
anyone who has a clue knows that.
only thing that matters is that you all give me some attention
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But what if you convert 1:5000 and with the same type and amount of traffic with another ponsor 1:1000 does it then means nothing too?Comment
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Sleazydream you're fucking DRUNK!
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don't give all the secrets away!Comment
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I'd have to agree with Sleazy ... Ratios Mean Shit
Its possible to get a shitload of shitty clickthrus.. guaranteed no signups. Then its possible to get quality clickthrus....Comment
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A Ratio of 1:1 would be something to care about ratios for.Comment
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HEY SLEAZY.
Do you have access to any other type of traffic than tgp traffic?
AVS ?
FREESITES ?
SE ?
PPC ?
I'm not talking about that chinese traffic you buy to keep your sextracker position.
I mean quality traffic where ratios are important?Comment
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Better not relaxOriginally posted by webgurl
Relax ,
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Jealous
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I think so ....
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make fat checks
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see new sig
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Actually $ per unique is a much better way to measure the success of a program.I like pie.Comment
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the key point being AFTER you account for costs.Originally posted by KRL
Show me the bottom line profit after you take out all your costs. That's the only number that counts.
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Sleazy you fucking right , ratios ain't meaning a shit ...cause I'm making my own ratio with credit cards anyday!!!! hahahaha
/me loveess fat sized chequesss...but still im having memories of high speed,when the cops crash, pushing a cock into my ass,while my tiny pecker blasts.Comment
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If you do not track the traffic that you send to sponsors FROM YOUR END then you have no clue what you are making. What one sponsor calls 2000 hits another may call 1500 and another may say 150. You have to be able to track the traffic you send to sponsors. Once you know what you are sending each one and you match that against what you are making off that traffic then you can obtain your per click earned amount. From there there are any number of variables that have to be considered: link/banner locations/wording/presentation, niche type vs. traffic likes, the phase of the moon, etc...
The fact is there is no one magic formula. Picking the right sponsor to send traffic to is as much art as it is science. Find what works for you and exploit it. And when you find something new that works great for you then keep it to yourself as long as possible (unless they have a good referral bonus ).
Rock on!
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Ratio's are shit especially when there is nothing comparative to build a relation to what is a good result or not.
So with that in mind...
Offer something "Free" one week then the Next week offer Instant Access and instead.
Use one add spot with a singular design.
Same girl.
No branding.
Same text to the exact letter except swap out
"Instant Access" with "Free".
1 Week run the ad that is offering "Free".
Next week run the "Instant Access" ad or an add that states the trial amount.
Be sure traffic is constant from the same sources and make a stop limit on the number of Clicks, and Impressions.
I can assure you that there will be a ratio difference.
For there not to be is statistically impossible.
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Just because most of you never took a statistics class does not mean they do not exhist
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Just to speak from experience I will say that adjustments in your advertising by analysis makes a huge difference.
I've designed plenty in my time and have been dumbfounded by the results of even simple text adjustments, often enough just swapping out a girl for another.
Sometimes 30% improvement other times 30% depreciation in results.
Use ratio's to not only project but also measure improvement and failure from operation to operation.
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Sponsor ratios mean nothing to me...
Size of the check is what matters but its important to know how many outbound hits were sent as well according to your own traffic measures, not the sponsors.
Maximize the amount on check, sponsors can lie right through their teeth to me about 1st page hits, raws, uniques, whatever... it's all about the check at the end of the pay period.
WGI play with Google.Comment
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