Adams is nice but I also like Edward Weston, Paul Strand, and Alfred Stieglitz.
For modern B&W photographers I like Ralph Gibson, Jeanloup Sieff, Helmut Newton, Rob Debenport, Patrick Demarchelier, and Herb Ritts (RIP).
Did anyone read Collectors Photography magazine in the late 80's? Was devoted to B&W most of it's run. I have about 20 issues. They go for about $30-$50 each and are a bitch to find in good condition.
Originally posted by jaYMan I'd love to be able to sell black and white nature pics like he does, some of his shit is really awesome ;)
Here's my first try, flame away...
Not bad.. definitely needs a punch on the contrast.. Did you use any filters? I find a good generic yellow filter is handy.. or a red filter depending on your situation.
Not bad.. definitely needs a punch on the contrast.. Did you use any filters? I find a good generic yellow filter is handy.. or a red filter depending on your situation.
If you are really serious about getting better at BW art shots, there are tons of books in virtually every bookstore on it. Focus on the Zone System for exposures, composition, and persective.
The reason art photographers shoot film is that the tonal range from film ot paper seems wider than what they can get from digital to paper. I don't believe it myslef, but that is one big factor.
I've always been a fan of black and white.....and Ansel Adams has some very cool shots....I own a few.
I've got one by an anonymous photographer of a train falling out of a train station window...I believe it is called Accident!..but I've never been able to find it online. It was photographed in France...don't know what year.
The entire front end of the train is depicted crashing threw the train station window and falling 'head' first onto the pavement below. It's one of my faves.
If you are really serious about getting better at BW art shots, there are tons of books in virtually every bookstore on it. Focus on the Zone System for exposures, composition, and persective.
The reason art photographers shoot film is that the tonal range from film ot paper seems wider than what they can get from digital to paper. I don't believe it myslef, but that is one big factor.
Thanks! I'm really serious about learning this stuff ;)
Originally posted by jaYMan Phootshop filters or actually things you buy and put on the camera lens???
/me has a long way to go lol....
Actually to be perfectly honest, I know for myself that I really prefer to get the best product I can right from the camera.. I try not to touch anything up unless I absolutely have to. My pics as I've posted elsewhere are unedited, came that way off film. I do my color/contrast work with filters. And yes, I mean filters that go on the lens. I generally prefer Cokin or Tiffen filters (www.cokin.com or www.tiffen.com).
For black and white, red/yellow, etc filters can pop up the contrast in your image depending on what the lighting/color conditions are like, and what parts of your final product you are trying to highlight. If you look around on the net, there's all kinds of nice simple tutorials that you can read to familiarize yourself with different filters and their affects, so you can better apply that to your own photography.
I'm cliche...I have an Ansel Adams photo in my living room. I had a girl over once and she said "You must be just out of college. Everyone who just graduated gets an Ansel Adams photo." So I told her "Fuck you, I dropped out."
A good example of the use of filters would be this image.
Most people would think that I photoshopped the star effects in, and darkened the sky by bringing up the contrast. In fact, this is EXACTLY how this image looks on film. How did I do it? A polarizing filter combined with a star filter, with a cokin vignette to give it that fish-eye appearance. Anything is possible with the right filter. They dramatically increase the versatility of your camera as an artistic medium.
Originally posted by Zebra Man, I miss the days of spending hours in the darkroom.
It almost became a form of meditation (although it could sometimes be hell too).
Digital is nice but I preferred the results you got with film.
Yes. You can't achieve the same kind of depth with digital black and white as developing it yourself. I never could I'm allergic to the chemicals, but I had another guy do it for me and he had the same "vision". One shot can come out 100 different ways, depending on how you develop it.
Raven - They used to sell that train pic at Ikea. Can you imagine being the guy who snapped that one? If it were me, my batteries would have just died or I'd be out of film. lol
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Did you know that Ansel Adams nose was crooked because he lived in San Fransico during the Great Quake of 1906 and fell and broke his nose on a rock.
Just one of those funky facts that stick in the back of your head.
Originally posted by KCat Raven - They used to sell that train pic at Ikea. Can you imagine being the guy who snapped that one? If it were me, my batteries would have just died or I'd be out of film. lol
Hey, KCat....how's it goin?
The person who gave it to me bought it from IKEA. I've always wanted a better print, since that one is not great....but, I've not been able to find it....
LOL on your batteries dying or running out of film.
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