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  • Mr. Mojo Risin
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2003
    • 1886

    #1

    what's the most "practical" programming language to know for the web?

    What language(s) should I know to land a job telecommunting on the web? What's the most widely used? PHP, Perl, ASP, etc.


    thanks....
  • mrthumbs
    salad tossing sig guy
    • Apr 2002
    • 11702

    #2
    php + mysql.. all you need.

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    • BRISK
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Feb 2003
      • 12240

      #3
      php + mysql
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      • goBigtime
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        • Nov 2002
        • 7761

        #4
        php + mysql.


        But corporate america proably would like you to know .NET and ASP shit... not that they know wtf they really want or need in the first place.

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        • Mr.Fiction
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          • Feb 2002
          • 9484

          #5
          Originally posted by BRISK
          php + mysql
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          • BRISK
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Feb 2003
            • 12240

            #6
            Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


            I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
            I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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            • BlueDesignStudios
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              • Feb 2003
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              #7
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              • Mr. Mojo Risin
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2003
                • 1886

                #8
                Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


                I guess I will have to learn both

                thanks

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                • Libertine
                  sex dwarf
                  • May 2002
                  • 17860

                  #9
                  For a web programming-related job, php+mysql is most important. However, you need perl as well, since chances are you'll be encountering that pretty often also. Besides that, some basic C/C++ knowledge is extremely helpful. Oh, and ofcourse, xml is something you have to know, as are jav<b></b>ascript, css and obviously html (xhtml).
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                  • hvidlogspusher
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                    • Jul 2003
                    • 315

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BlueDesignStudios
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                    • AssFairy
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                      • Jun 2003
                      • 674

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BlueDesignStudios
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                      • lil2rich4u2
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                        • Oct 2002
                        • 11046

                        #12
                        Originally posted by goBigtime
                        php + mysql.


                        But corporate america proably would like you to know .NET and ASP shit... not that they know wtf they really want or need in the first place.
                        spoken like an experienced programmer

                        those asshats never know wtf they want (neither do i though) heh
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                        • BlueDesignStudios
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                          • Feb 2003
                          • 9492

                          #13
                          Ada95 might also be useful, just incase you want a web based nuclear missile launcher...

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                          • BRISK
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 12240

                            #14
                            Originally posted by lil2rich4u2


                            spoken like an experienced programmer

                            those asshats never know wtf they want (neither do i though) heh
                            Did someone say asshat?

                            I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
                            I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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                            • Nightwork
                              Registered User
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 61

                              #15
                              Programming isn't about knowing a language, programming is all about being able to think with a certain logic and within certain structures.

                              For a good programmer it's peanuts to learn a new language, as it's just getting familiair with a new language's syntax (which usually already looks familiair if the language itself looks any good, hehe.) and finding out language relative common pitfalls.

                              Problem with most "programmers" is that they just jump into a language and learn themselves a few tricks. 8 out of 10 times I see some webscript (also professional scripts, sold at outragious prices) I simply start crying. Most of the time it works but the amount of ductape needed to keep it together is normally more than the lines of code used.

                              So before even starting to program or learning it, read some stuff about database architecture, software architecture (multitier environments, objectorientation), security and go through some old mathbooks from back in school.

                              Being a programmer it doesn't matter which language is hot or easy, if a client requests, you can do the tricks.
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                              • Libertine
                                sex dwarf
                                • May 2002
                                • 17860

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Nightwork
                                Programming isn't about knowing a language, programming is all about being able to think with a certain logic and within certain structures.

                                For a good programmer it's peanuts to learn a new language, as it's just getting familiair with a new language's syntax (which usually already looks familiair if the language itself looks any good, hehe.) and finding out language relative common pitfalls.

                                Problem with most "programmers" is that they just jump into a language and learn themselves a few tricks. 8 out of 10 times I see some webscript (also professional scripts, sold at outragious prices) I simply start crying. Most of the time it works but the amount of ductape needed to keep it together is normally more than the lines of code used.

                                So before even starting to program or learning it, read some stuff about database architecture, software architecture (multitier environments, objectorientation), security and go through some old mathbooks from back in school.

                                Being a programmer it doesn't matter which language is hot or easy, if a client requests, you can do the tricks.
                                Although you're partly right, knowing specific languages is more important than you make it seem. It saves loads of time in trying to find standard functions that do what you want.
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                                • blazin
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Aug 2002
                                  • 2781

                                  #17
                                  perl + mysql

                                  For those that need the speed - mod_perl
                                  I don't endorse a god damn thing......

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                                  • Nightwork
                                    Registered User
                                    • Oct 2003
                                    • 61

                                    #18
                                    Punkworld,

                                    Ofcourse if it comes to speed, it's pretty handy to know the most common function syntaxes by heart. I probably picture it a little bit too much black/white.

                                    But knowing all functions by heart, doesn't make you a good programmer. Knowing in which patterns to think, etc, does. If you're new to a language, it might cause you to be a bit slower, but the qualitylevel is what matters (to me at least).

                                    I've expierenced it dozens of times. Fast and sloppy code catches up to you in the long term, as you have to rewrite all to implement new features. A decent structure and logic, takes more time to write, but saves time in the long run.
                                    God may have created the world in 6 days, but you can bet your ass that while he rested on the 7th, a programmer coded it all.<br>ICQ:48322442

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                                    • Cyborg69
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Apr 2002
                                      • 932

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Nightwork
                                      Punkworld,

                                      I've expierenced it dozens of times. Fast and sloppy code catches up to you in the long term, as you have to rewrite all to implement new features. A decent structure and logic, takes more time to write, but saves time in the long run.
                                      have to use OOP... as much as hated when our profs was telling that at the begining of learnign programing he is right....

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                                      • Mr. Mojo Risin
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jul 2003
                                        • 1886

                                        #20
                                        what about logo?

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                                        • Mr. Mojo Risin
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jul 2003
                                          • 1886

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Mr. Mojo Risin
                                          what about logo?
                                          I vaguely remember fooling with it in elementary school... it was a drawing language, right?

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                                          • iwantchixx
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Oct 2002
                                            • 12860

                                            #22
                                            html

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                                            • Nightwork
                                              Registered User
                                              • Oct 2003
                                              • 61

                                              #23
                                              iwantchixx, n00bs shouldn't try to make nerdjokes, the only funny thing about it is that it makes you look pretty stupid o_O
                                              God may have created the world in 6 days, but you can bet your ass that while he rested on the 7th, a programmer coded it all.<br>ICQ:48322442

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                                              • sweet7
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                                                • May 2003
                                                • 1792

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by BlueDesignStudios
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                                                • Baal
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                  • 696

                                                  #25
                                                  I reccomend that any programming novice start learning to program in the Brainfuck programming language.
                                                  The language only has 8 commands (and is Turing-complete), so it's easy to learn. Here is the Brainfuck code for a Hello World program (and YES, that is the actual code, not some screwed up link); you can see how easy it is write a program with just 8 commands to learn!

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