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Does someone really convert at like 1:50?

11-02-2003, 04:48 AM

I always see you guys mention crazy conversion ratios like 1:50, 1:30 and even less. Do you really do that steadily? what kind of traffic?
I'm not doing nearly as good as that. Hell, I'm doing 0:250 with Free Ezine Bucks.
I had times when I converted better with paid signups, but lately it all sucks

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11-02-2003, 04:53 AM

you make money doing this?
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11-02-2003, 04:54 AM

I do 1:12 with freezinebucks, but for paysites about 1:350-450 steadily. people who claim to convert 1:50 on regular sponsor sites are liars
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11-02-2003, 04:54 AM

I converted 1:150 steadily with teen kelly before all you n00bz started promoting her...
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11-02-2003, 04:55 AM

Originally posted by reynold
I do 1:12 with freezinebucks, but for paysites about 1:350-450 steadily. people who claim to convert 1:50 on regular sponsor sites are liars

the industry isn't all about tgps....
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11-02-2003, 04:56 AM

Originally posted by Oracle Porn

the industry isn't all about tgps....

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11-02-2003, 04:57 AM

Originally posted by Oracle Porn

the industry isn't all about tgps....

haha I know that. But TGP traffix is representative
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11-02-2003, 05:06 AM

I never liked using sponsor stats. Other than the actual sales figure, there is not enough consistentcy with what the conversion ratio is being based on when people throw out numbers around here.

The figure I calculate to see how well a site is doing is more of the traditional business analysis method. Average combined revenue generated per unique visitor. So if a million visitors hit a site and when all is said and done you derive a total of about $70,000 (long term) from that traffic, your figure would be .07 cents per visitor.

With that figure you can do much more intelligent advertising budgeting, because now you know for every X dollar spent to acquire a visitor you will average a Y dollar sales return on your investment.

So in the above example you could safely invest up to .06 cents per visitor and be in the green on your money long term. Though obviously the idea is to achieve the lowest acquisition cost per visitor possible to maximize your return.

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11-02-2003, 05:10 AM

Originally posted by KRL
I never liked using sponsor stats. Other than the actual sales figure, there is not enough consistentcy with what the conversion ratio is being based on when people throw out numbers around here.

The figure I calculate to see how well a site is doing is more of the traditional business analysis method. Average combined revenue generated per unique visitor. So if a million visitors hit a site and when all is said and done you derive a total of about $70,000 (long term) from that traffic, your figure would be .07 cents per visitor.

With that figure you can do much more intelligent advertising budgeting, because now you know for every X dollar spent to acquire a visitor you will average a Y dollar sales return on your investment.

So in the above example you could safely invest up to .06 cents per visitor and be in the green on your money long term. Though obviously the idea is to achieve the lowest acquisition cost per visitor possible to maximize your return.

Took the words out my mouth,lol

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11-02-2003, 05:18 AM

It is easy to get low conversions if you have a very tight niche and you have filtered your traffic for it. For example I have a very tight niche and the traffic to it is specific to that niche and it converts 1:7

On my teen sites the best I've done is 1:80 and with TGP's the worst I've done is 1:512

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11-02-2003, 05:23 AM

I frequently get members area traffic in that converts at 1:11.5 or so. With closely related and qualified traffic anything is possable.

Kevin2: The worst you've done when promoting a teen site has been 1:512? Off TGP traffic? Sounds a little too good if you ask me. What's the niche that you're claiming 1:7 on?
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11-02-2003, 05:28 AM

Originally posted by xdcdave
I frequently get members area traffic in that converts at 1:11.5 or so. With closely related and qualified traffic anything is possable.

Kevin2: The worst you've done when promoting a teen site has been 1:512? Off TGP traffic? Sounds a little too good if you ask me. What's the niche that you're claiming 1:7 on?

Dave the niche one is Diaper Girls

The 1:512 is on the join page but as KRL has rightfully pointed out the best way is to put a cost to your traffic.

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11-02-2003, 05:35 AM

Yep, there is such a thing. If something new comes out, and it's pretty exclusive - we'll do 1:50 or less on our exits. We have some member's area trades that do quite a few sales a day at 1:5 to 1:10. It's all about the traffic source and how "qualified" the surfer is.

 
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11-02-2003, 05:46 AM

Originally posted by Oracle Porn
I converted 1:150 steadily with teen kelly before all you n00bz started promoting her...

You mean before you were stupid enough to brag about having the #1 spot in Google for "teen kelly" and everyone who knew anything about SEO just set out to knock your arrogant ass down?

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11-02-2003, 05:48 AM

Originally posted by KRL
I never liked using sponsor stats. Other than the actual sales figure, there is not enough consistentcy with what the conversion ratio is being based on when people throw out numbers around here.

The figure I calculate to see how well a site is doing is more of the traditional business analysis method. Average combined revenue generated per unique visitor. So if a million visitors hit a site and when all is said and done you derive a total of about $70,000 (long term) from that traffic, your figure would be .07 cents per visitor.

With that figure you can do much more intelligent advertising budgeting, because now you know for every X dollar spent to acquire a visitor you will average a Y dollar sales return on your investment.

So in the above example you could safely invest up to .06 cents per visitor and be in the green on your money long term. Though obviously the idea is to achieve the lowest acquisition cost per visitor possible to maximize your return.

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11-02-2003, 05:49 AM

Conversion ratios mean poo

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11-02-2003, 05:51 AM

Holy shit ! 0:250 on Free Ezine Bucks, I'm doing 1:25 to 1:30 with Free Pass Bucks These days. And for paysites sponsor between 1:200 & 1:600 depend wich sponsor/traffic but some of my favorites are: Flash Cash & Pimp Roll
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11-02-2003, 05:56 AM

Originally posted by Reak
Holy shit ! 0:250 on Free Ezine Bucks, I'm doing 1:25 to 1:30 with Free Pass Bucks These days. And for paysites sponsor between 1:200 & 1:600 depend wich sponsor/traffic but some of my favorites are: Flash Cash & Pimp Roll

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11-02-2003, 05:57 AM

Originally posted by reynold
I do 1:12 with freezinebucks, but for paysites about 1:350-450 steadily. people who claim to convert 1:50 on regular sponsor sites are liars

Hrm... I'm not too sure about that one

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11-02-2003, 05:59 AM

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11-02-2003, 06:00 AM

those figures are nothing unreal dude
if you know what you are doing you can easily do 1:50 and better
its all about targetting

then just managed to send more than 250 clicks a day and you have some representative number i would say hehe
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11-02-2003, 06:01 AM

186 joins at a 1:20 ratio for the period at one program / so yes its still possible just have to work harder these days !

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11-02-2003, 06:07 AM

I can tell you for a fact that many webmasters get those conversions and better... steadily.
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11-02-2003, 06:15 AM

Originally posted by Oracle Porn
the industry isn't all about tgps....

true but if you could convert tgp traffic you pretty much could own the industry ie. in the sense that converting quality traffic will be much easier for you.

Conversion ratio is just a number that depends on quality and type of your traffic. For example you'll convert better with traffic off tgp those don't trade traffic, little worse with those tgps that setup hardlinked trade even worse with those skim traffic from gallery lists to trade. Mind that your gallery has to be a good converting gallery itself otherwise, no matter how good or bad the quality of tgp traffic it won't convert. And search engine traffic is ofcourse the best yet, if the site is crap even SE traffic won't convert. Also, if you get SE traffic for keyword "mature" and try to promote "teen" with that traffic won't work out well. Assuming it's a quality site, with fine filtered traffic consistent 1:50 is nothing impossible

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11-02-2003, 06:15 AM

my gay diaper site does from 1;45 to 1.65 all the time
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11-02-2003, 07:04 AM

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You mean before you were stupid enough to brag about having the #1 spot in Google for "teen kelly" and everyone who knew anything about SEO just set out to knock your arrogant ass down?

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11-02-2003, 07:09 AM

it's easy to get those kind of ratios. just whip out on of your 6 credit cards everytime you send 50 people to the site. viola! you've got a 1/50 ratio. now see how easy that was!! :-)
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11-02-2003, 07:47 AM

rarely do I see our affiliates stats that are as high as 1:50, only when they send us blind traffic do they get that bad.

So, to answer your question, yes people do, but the most important stat is the size of the check you receive.
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11-02-2003, 08:10 AM

You mean before you were stupid enough to brag about having the #1 spot in Google for "teen kelly" and everyone who knew anything about SEO just set out to knock your arrogant ass down?

So fucking owned

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11-02-2003, 08:18 AM

Its all about the traffic. Fletcher mentioned it above, but its worth mentioning again.

We do a number of members area trades. If you want to really see some amazing ratios, do members area trades with like niche sites. We dont have sponsor inside our members that we are converting over 1:20 Likewise... we have a number of affiliates that send us traffic from inside there members area. We have one guy right now that is 1:9 to us with 10 sales in the last 2 full days.

We also do very well sending to solo or teen video sites of our exits. Most of our exit sponsors convert at under 1:150

Targeted traffic folks... targeted traffic. Keep in mind.. just because it says "TEEN" at the top of the/your tgp, does not mean its "teen" traffic. When your traffic comes from as many different sources as most tgp's do, its hard to say what niche is pushing through a tgp at any given time.

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11-02-2003, 08:29 AM

Originally posted by alexg
I always see you guys mention crazy conversion ratios like 1:50, 1:30 and even less. Do you really do that steadily? what kind of traffic?
I'm not doing nearly as good as that. Hell, I'm doing 0:250 with Free Ezine Bucks.
I had times when I converted better with paid signups, but lately it all sucks

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11-02-2003, 09:09 AM

Originally posted by KRL
So if a million visitors hit a site and when all is said and done you derive a total of about $70,000 (long term) from that traffic, your figure would be .07 cents per visitor.

Careful! Saying that you're shattering dozens of peoples firm belief that those $10 crap sites are the wave of the future! (yea right with 1.5 cents/unique hahahaha)

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11-02-2003, 12:20 PM

Originally posted by KRL
I never liked using sponsor stats. Other than the actual sales figure, there is not enough consistentcy with what the conversion ratio is being based on when people throw out numbers around here.

The figure I calculate to see how well a site is doing is more of the traditional business analysis method. Average combined revenue generated per unique visitor. So if a million visitors hit a site and when all is said and done you derive a total of about $70,000 (long term) from that traffic, your figure would be .07 cents per visitor.

With that figure you can do much more intelligent advertising budgeting, because now you know for every X dollar spent to acquire a visitor you will average a Y dollar sales return on your investment.

So in the above example you could safely invest up to .06 cents per visitor and be in the green on your money long term. Though obviously the idea is to achieve the lowest acquisition cost per visitor possible to maximize your return.

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11-02-2003, 12:40 PM

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11-02-2003, 01:56 PM

I've been doing 1:30-35 for the past 2 months with a certain Platinum Bucks site
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11-02-2003, 01:59 PM

yes if you use smart targeted traffic
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11-02-2003, 02:06 PM

like i said before my targeted niche traffic i have converted 1:10 before (no joke) even 1:5 doesn't happen often but once in a while ..... with who is a secret hehehe but to answer your question yep yepp
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11-02-2003, 02:07 PM

no, the real ppl who do dont tell u how, when, where, or who.
and anyone who says they do uses email sponsors which suck, or lies.
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11-02-2003, 02:12 PM

yep,
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11-02-2003, 02:21 PM

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11-02-2003, 02:53 PM

Originally posted by webgurl
like i said before my targeted niche traffic i have converted 1:10 before (no joke) even 1:5 doesn't happen often but once in a while ..... with who is a secret hehehe but to answer your question yep yepp

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11-03-2003, 02:19 AM

Why keep them a secret? tell us and we'll join using your ref code

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11-03-2003, 02:32 AM

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11-03-2003, 02:37 AM

It's totally possible to get 1/50.

I've been doing this for 5 years and have always been into AVS & Search Engine traffic. Over the past couple years I've been getting better and better at targeting and filtering traffic.

I usually do between 1/200 - 1/600 with most sponsors. There's a few spots lately where I've been able to get the "perfect" traffic and am converting under 1/50.

So yes it's possible but no it's not easy at first.
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11-03-2003, 02:42 AM

It's been said a few times in this thread but wtf. It always amazes me that anyone takes notice of sponsor ratios or the crap posted on boards. But then that's also usually the difference between those making money and those wetting their knickers in excitement if they've had a week where they make 2 sales.

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11-03-2003, 02:48 AM

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11-03-2003, 02:49 AM

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11-03-2003, 02:50 AM

I have a better conversion rate both for B O Y B U C K $

and for myself with Straight Boys than 1/50

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11-03-2003, 02:51 AM

Originally posted by KRL
I never liked using sponsor stats. Other than the actual sales figure, there is not enough consistentcy with what the conversion ratio is being based on when people throw out numbers around here.

The figure I calculate to see how well a site is doing is more of the traditional business analysis method. Average combined revenue generated per unique visitor. So if a million visitors hit a site and when all is said and done you derive a total of about $70,000 (long term) from that traffic, your figure would be .07 cents per visitor.

With that figure you can do much more intelligent advertising budgeting, because now you know for every X dollar spent to acquire a visitor you will average a Y dollar sales return on your investment.

So in the above example you could safely invest up to .06 cents per visitor and be in the green on your money long term. Though obviously the idea is to achieve the lowest acquisition cost per visitor possible to maximize your return.

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