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10-21-2003, 10:59 PM

the oracle died making the last one, so they will replace her with some other lady ... not such a big deal i guess, but i was beginning to understand her, or so i thought ....

how is it possible to conclude this movie?

It has been built in such a way, it can go on for another 30 movies if they wanted to. And every one of them would be hits!!

I am expecting to be disapointed in the ending of this trilogy, i cant see how they can possibly leave this off on a closing note.

and if i had to predict anything, id go with the "matrix within a matrix" theory.

any other possible endings?

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10-21-2003, 11:03 PM

2nd matrix was alot like the empire strikes back....middle movies suck.
as far as endings go.....they will either leave it semi ended....or just have an ending to disappoint ya. if it ends remotely close to the way the 2nd one did it will just say "the end"
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10-21-2003, 11:07 PM

Originally posted by zombie
2nd matrix was alot like the empire strikes back....middle movies suck.
as far as endings go.....they will either leave it semi ended....or just have an ending to disappoint ya. if it ends remotely close to the way the 2nd one did it will just say "the end"

well i just read an article in TVGuide, everyone is swearing it will answer all questions, and tie it all together.

They have done such a nice job thus far, i dont doubt they know how to conclude a movie.

the only thing is, i dont see HOW they will be able to close this book in just 2 or 3 hours.

As i said, i am anticipating a serious disapointment

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10-21-2003, 11:12 PM

half the draw of the series is the unknown....finding out all will most likely be different than your speculations and imagination therefore leading to the disappointment we both speak of
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10-21-2003, 11:12 PM

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

As i said, i am anticipating a serious disapointment

I had my disapointment when I watched the piece of shit part 2 for the first time last week. I want my $15 back.

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10-21-2003, 11:21 PM

Originally posted by stocktrader23

I had my disapointment when I watched the piece of shit part 2 for the first time last week. I want my $15 back.

watch both of them a few times bro ... there is more than meets the eye in there.

They have done an amazing job of building a story, within a story, within a story.

The obvious movie is just enough to catch the eye of the random movie goers, yet the deeper, less obvious story within the movie is enough to attract all computer geeks, hackers, sys admins, drama addicts, and just about anyone else who has a mind for looking into things.

someone hit the nail on the head some time ago here on GFY, they explained it exactly right, i wish i can find that post. It basically explained pretty much everything.

trust me ... there is more than meets the eye in there, go watch it again (both of them)

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10-21-2003, 11:37 PM

Watch the animatrix, THAT ROCKS! The story is very deep, but it will all make sense in the end

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10-21-2003, 11:39 PM

the first one was the best by far, many other movies copied its style of action.

I dont think any of the newer ones will be better more hype and more questions than an actual story,

But hey Jaws went to 4 titles, whos to say this wont go farther.
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10-21-2003, 11:39 PM

I just checked the theatrical trailer today, there's an interesting shot just at the end of the trailer, for about half a second. It's one of the hovercraft vehicles with the background of a blue sky and a crescent moon.
It's just before the green "Matrix Revolutions" text is displayed at the end.

It's possible that the ship just busted out of the dark clouds of death, but perhaps the sky finally clears in the end?

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10-21-2003, 11:40 PM

yes the first part was original, the second more action, just like the fast and furious and to fast to furious
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10-21-2003, 11:43 PM

Originally posted by zombie
2nd matrix was alot like the empire strikes back....middle movies suck.

Dude wtf are you smoking ? ESB was the BEST movie from the trilogy. So the Empire kicked some rebel ass - but the movie ROCKED.
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10-21-2003, 11:52 PM

Originally posted by DarkJedi

Dude wtf are you smoking ? ESB was the BEST movie from the trilogy. So the Empire kicked some rebel ass - but the movie ROCKED.

im smokin a healthy dose of reality....as in they suck because of no beginning and no end....has nothing to do with the quality of the flick.
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10-22-2003, 12:26 AM

There wont be any movies after revolutions, before they sold out and started marketing the shit out of matrix they always planned for it to be a trilogy, so this one will be the conclusion that will answer all questions, or answer them as far as they wanted them to be answered.

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10-22-2003, 04:42 AM

While I was in Berlin I has insomnia one night, so watched Matrix Reloaded.

Will someone tell me how it ended because I fell asleep in the middle.

It has to rate as the worse movie I've seen for years, take out the special effects, which were pretty naff and done before, and what was left?

Bad acting, directing and dialogue, I left out script writing because I do not hold 12 year olds responsible.

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10-22-2003, 05:00 AM

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

watch both of them a few times bro ... there is more than meets the eye in there.

They have done an amazing job of building a story, within a story, within a story.

The obvious movie is just enough to catch the eye of the random movie goers, yet the deeper, less obvious story within the movie is enough to attract all computer geeks, hackers, sys admins, drama addicts, and just about anyone else who has a mind for looking into things.

someone hit the nail on the head some time ago here on GFY, they explained it exactly right, i wish i can find that post. It basically explained pretty much everything.

trust me ... there is more than meets the eye in there, go watch it again (both of them)

I remember that post the guy made the movie make sense.
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10-22-2003, 05:20 AM

i like the "matrix within a matrix" theory, that sounds pretty solid

im not sure where this one is going to go, but no matter what they do, it wont be the way we all want it to end

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10-22-2003, 05:25 AM

The Oracle actress died???

Even if she did, they filmed 2 and 3 simultaneously so that shouldn't have effected Revolutions.

I gotta go rent animatrix to fill in the gaps. I thought Reloaded was awesome. Check out the 'making of' in the DVD, I can't believe how much of the freeway scene was real!

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10-22-2003, 07:56 AM

seems like they are coming out back to back...like maybe they made this movie too fast for it to be any good

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10-22-2003, 08:04 AM

whats animatrix?

cartoon?

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10-22-2003, 08:04 AM

Originally posted by charly
While I was in Berlin I has insomnia one night, so watched Matrix Reloaded.

Will someone tell me how it ended because I fell asleep in the middle.

It has to rate as the worse movie I've seen for years, take out the special effects, which were pretty naff and done before, and what was left?

Bad acting, directing and dialogue, I left out script writing because I do not hold 12 year olds responsible.

Sure it was "done before"... in the original Matrix. Some of the FX you saw were actually invented for the original movie... all the movies since the original just copied and expoited those techniques...

Ouch.
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10-22-2003, 08:05 AM

Originally posted by gornyhuy
The Oracle actress died???

Even if she did, they filmed 2 and 3 simultaneously so that shouldn't have effected Revolutions.

I gotta go rent animatrix to fill in the gaps. I thought Reloaded was awesome. Check out the 'making of' in the DVD, I can't believe how much of the freeway scene was real!

yes she died from diabetes

she was unable to make the 3rd movie

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10-22-2003, 08:11 AM

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I am not sure if too many people truly understand what this movie is
actually saying, so I will try to explain it for those that don't get what
they just saw. The first thing I recommend is that you try to remove your
ego, people all have them - so they believe that the movie must be about
people. But actually it is about software and mainframe code. The main
computer has been caught in a loop cycle for 5 iterations, and it is trying
to find a variance that will break this cycle by utilizing a random bit
anomaly piece of software (Neo), to allow it to fully complete its cycle.
It has tried this before, but has always failed and in its attempts. It is
trying to factor in all variables of its program to make absolute sure of
complete success before it attempts to actually implement the complete
procedure, like an good piece of software (debugging iteself - "it is the
why that is important"). Beta software waiting to go gold. The only factor
that was not counted on was an anomaly of two programs intersecting and one
becoming a self-replicating virus bent on absolute destruction (Smith), and
the anomoly (Neo) complementing his program with protectorate software.
This is a brilliant movie, that once you wrap your head around, is really
just an ultimate version of Tron with no human watchers (Jeff Bridges), of
a computer SuperNoc running through a simulation with all possible factors
being worked first, before it initializes the program for real. If Neo
completes his role and meets his ultimate purpose as software, then our
hero allows the computer to see all variances that it will need to contend
with, so that it can fully implement the real program on our world. Matrix
- main base operating system. Zion - secondary operating system for
software that can no longer can function in main sytem - but can be
utilized to build new a matrix system. Neo - Random bit anomaly software
for breaking loop cycle ñ utilized by the Oracle and Architect software to
be a random variable to upgrade itself ñ upgraded with protectorate code
from Smith (Anti-Virus). Trinity - complement software to aid in Neo's
completion of purpose. Morpheus and crew - collector programs for mainframe
to try to enable the end of the loop cycle. Architect - Mainframe operating
system. Oracle - old Macro Software that has been part of all 5 iterations
of the loop and can see all variances. Oracle's Protector - Mainframe hard
code software. Merovingian - old Neo that did not fully implement objective
in beta 5.0. Merovingian's wife - old trinity code. Twins, and
Merovingian's guards - old base black ice protector code. Head Counselor in
Zion - Advisor for Mainframe that advises Neo along his upgrade to not
touch the main bios (engineering) systems. Key Maker - come on now, to
easy, a simple keygen. Smith - self-replicating virus - now capable of
moving to either system infused with anomaly code from Neo. I truly loved
this movie and it is so amazingly deep compared to the first if you know
what it really happening. I hope this helps anyone who walked out of the
theater like 95% of the crowd I saw it with, scratching their heads
thinking, "What the fucK, that was stupid I don't get it." I am stating
that what I am saying is absolute, but if you watch the movie and listen to
what they all truly are saying it seems pretty obvious. Be wary all, your hero is our destruction, enjoy

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10-22-2003, 08:18 AM

another good quote from gfy ..

Originally posted by Lane
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The matrix is in another matrix. This movie would not go as far as granting Neo supernatural powers in the real world. Haven't you seen how he could feel the machines coming and stop them in the 'real' world? This let him to realize the fact that there are layers of matrix and shocked him into a coma.

It is is possible that the architect was lying but there was a lot of truth behind it.
He mentioned that this is the 6th version of this whole thing and zion was rebuilt 5 times. I don't see this possible. I think zion is also a creation of these machines to give the illusion of freedom to that 1% of people who did not exactly accept the excistence of the matrix and were supposedly waken up.
One of my guesses is that there is a real zion outside of the bigger matrix, which the machines have tried to simulate inside to try to collect more statistical info so they would figure out how the destroy it. I don't think the real zion has been rebuilt 5 times, it was only the images that have.
Remember that Neo said how oracle wasn't actually telling all truth? The oracle doesn't exactly tell the future. She has just seen the previous versions and knows what's gonna happen next from experience. But at the end, this 6th version makes a choice beyond the expectations of the machines and goes through the left door and is able to save trinity. Because this time he did not follow his logic but his emotions.

anyway, this is just a movie, and it's just produced by a bunch of smart people. nevertheless , its a masterpiece. I think I'll just wait to see the next one whithout thinking much further than this, where i am maybe just wrong anyway.

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10-22-2003, 08:26 AM

It's been briefly mentioned, but you people should relax your criticism of Reloaded. The first movie was literally ground breaking. It takes years to come up with the kind of special effects advancements that created the wonder of the first Matrix. So its not realistic to expect your eyes and ears to blown away like the first time. Reloaded is simply an extremely well done use of the technology that was created.

As far as the story itself, I'm completely engrossed so far and I have confidence that the W Brothers will not leave the audience hanging. I don't expect a window for further sequels, I think there will be a solid conclusion.
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10-22-2003, 08:28 AM

anyone who said this movie sucked, or that it has no depth ....

after reading the above 2 quotes, if you dont change your mind, your an idiot lol

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10-22-2003, 08:37 AM

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
anyone who said this movie sucked, or that it has no depth ....

after reading the above 2 quotes, if you dont change your mind, your an idiot lol

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10-22-2003, 09:20 AM

Originally posted by Mogulman
It's been briefly mentioned, but you people should relax your criticism of Reloaded. The first movie was literally ground breaking. It takes years to come up with the kind of special effects advancements that created the wonder of the first Matrix. So its not realistic to expect your eyes and ears to blown away like the first time. Reloaded is simply an extremely well done use of the technology that was created.

As far as the story itself, I'm completely engrossed so far and I have confidence that the W Brothers will not leave the audience hanging. I don't expect a window for further sequels, I think there will be a solid conclusion.

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10-22-2003, 10:28 AM

There was a site I saw a while ago that had screen shots from the movie that aren't on any of the trailers. It gives a pretty good explanation for the ending, as well as showing you pictures as well. I'll post it if I can find it. I honestly don't care much about that movie, so I don't mind spreading spoilers for it.

It should be on my favorites on another computer, and I will post it if I did not delete the link by now.
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10-23-2003, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by ZakAttack
There was a site I saw a while ago that had screen shots from the movie that aren't on any of the trailers. It gives a pretty good explanation for the ending, as well as showing you pictures as well. I'll post it if I can find it. I honestly don't care much about that movie, so I don't mind spreading spoilers for it.

It should be on my favorites on another computer, and I will post it if I did not delete the link by now.

wouldnt matter to me anyhow, id rather see it on big screen

even if i downloaded a hot copy, id still go see it

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10-23-2003, 11:56 AM

This s like our generations starwars... i love this trilogy
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11-01-2003, 09:51 PM

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

yes she died from diabetes

she was unable to make the 3rd movie

Little bit of a spoiler here... so don't read on if you want zero knowledge before going into the theatre.....

But I just read in Entertainment Weekly today -- the way they're writing the death of Gloria Foster (the original oracle) into Revolutions is that the Merovingian punishes her for aiding Neo by terminating her "shell".

So she's forced to alter her appearance -- in comes new actress (Mary Alice) to take her place. AND.... you also discover she has a past link to Agent Smith.

There are a couple other mini-spoilers in this Keanu article... but I won't go crazy here and get all the matrix junkies pissed

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11-02-2003, 01:50 AM

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

yes she died from diabetes

she was unable to make the 3rd movie

I was pretty surprised when I read this first time.. still shocks me...

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11-02-2003, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by Rinaldo
This s like our generations starwars... i love this trilogy

true, but its also so much more than that

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11-02-2003, 11:58 AM

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2

They have done an amazing job of building a story, within a story, within a story.

I'm think it will be a matrix within a matrix within a matrix... meaning no one ever really escaped and the machines own you

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11-02-2003, 12:18 PM

Couple things do not make sense unless NEO was awakened because Agent Smith was actually already bugged.

Recall the moment when Agent Smith is alone with Morpheous, and the other Agents said "What are you doing?" and interrupted Smiths private interrogation with Morpheous.

Thus NEO may be a Rewrite system to the simulation so that when the system begins to corrupt NEO is initiated to reboot the system.

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11-02-2003, 03:49 PM

im thinking it MUST be a matrix within a matrix, because of the powers that neo had in the real world, and also because smith was able to takeover someones body in the real world.

what i didnt catch was, who is that lil twirpy kid in Zion? neo saved his life or something?

I wonder how he plays into it all?

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11-02-2003, 04:16 PM

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
im thinking it MUST be a matrix within a matrix, because of the powers that neo had in the real world, and also because smith was able to takeover someones body in the real world.

what i didnt catch was, who is that lil twirpy kid in Zion? neo saved his life or something?

I wonder how he plays into it all?

He saved his own life in the Animatrix by effectively committing suicide. He is the first one to die in the Matrix and come out alive. I think he will have a MAJOR role in 3, but i could be mistaken.

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11-02-2003, 04:19 PM

What do I expect?

An entertaining evening of film. Don't get me wrong, I'm as interested in how they wrap up this story as the rest of the world but frankly I don't really care whether it is as complex as everyone wants it to be or just a nice simple 'The End'. I go to the movies to be entertained and forget about the outside world for 2 hours (oh and to eat more popcorn than should be allowed in one sitting). I could never be a critic 'cause as long as I'm entertained by a film, I'm happy.

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11-02-2003, 04:32 PM

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Sure it was "done before"... in the original Matrix. Some of the FX you saw were actually invented for the original movie... all the movies since the original just copied and expoited those techniques...

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11-02-2003, 04:35 PM

I seem to recall reading an article somewhere that
said there will be no more Matrix movies. I hope all
of our questions are answered with this one.
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11-02-2003, 05:05 PM

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
im thinking it MUST be a matrix within a matrix

I hope not. Then the story wouldn't be that much different than the 1999 movie "The Thirteenth Floor".
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12-02-2003, 10:00 AM

Oh, please.
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