Iraq invaded a sovereign country and then signed a cease-fire agreement that they did not live up to...
That cease-fire was suspended.
Some of the dumbasses here would try to make you believe that Muslims are are trying to take over the world via 'some radical Islam sect', but that is not the case...
it's being done via immigration.
More than half of Europe will be Islamic within 50 years based on immigration stats and declining birth rates...
Iraq invaded a sovereign country and then signed a cease-fire agreement that they did not live up to...
That cease-fire was suspended.
And I guess if Mexico started exploiting oil wells in the US without US authorization and despite warnings, I'm sure Mexico won't be invaded
Saddam was no threat to the US, enough said.
First the Jews, now the Muslims. Gotta love the nazi-like kind of thinking.
And I guess if Mexico started exploiting oil wells in the US without US authorization and despite warnings, I'm sure Mexico won't be invaded
Saddam was no threat to the US, enough said.
First the Jews, now the Muslims. Gotta love the nazi-like kind of thinking.
If you are not going to respond to the points made...
I am sick and tired of hearing all this twisted shit about freaking oil. Just once think of it like this, FRANCE GERMANY AND RUSSIA didn't want to stop Saddam from fucking torturing people, cutting off there ears, raping women in front of their husbands, throwing people off building with their hands tied behind their backs, putting people in fucking plastic shredders feet first all because they didn't follow Saddam sick fuck head way of being.
What does this have to do with anything? the reason for invasion was that WMD's and that saddam was a threat to the world. Dictators murdering their own people is happening in many countries, just face it.. the only thing you can say to justify an invasion of iraq is that saddam is a bad bad evildoer.
What does this have to do with anything? the reason for invasion was that WMD's and that saddam was a threat to the world. Dictators murdering their own people is happening in many countries, just face it.. the only thing you can say to justify an invasion of iraq is that saddam is a bad bad evildoer.
I wonder why there is only 13M jewish??
in 5000 years they only reach 13 Millions?
Their population didn't grow rapidly through the years because a certain percentage of the tribe always intermarried with natives of the host nation. In the US, more than 55% of Jews marry gentiles. More often than not, the kids are raised as gentiles (even though they could be still be considered Jews if the mother is Jewish).
I believe you are 'a sheep' for thinking the reasons that an administration sold to the fucking sheep for going to war are the true reasons.
Apparently -- it worked like a charm.
What were the approval ratings? How close was the vote in the Congress and the Senate to authorize military action?
Yeah -- the admin is stupid and crazy like a fox.
WMD's were the reason bush and blair justified an invasion of Iraq with. I never said thats what I think the reasons are, not sure where you got that from?
but I guess in your head its ok to lie to the "sheep" as long as the "elite" such as yourself figure out the true reasons by reading internet articles...
Iraq invaded a sovereign country and then signed a cease-fire agreement that they did not live up to...
US invaded a sovereign country also ten years ago: Grenada.
For the issue of "Torturing his own people", the US has and is still supporting dictatorship:
- Haiti ( Duvalier "Papa Doc" )
- Chile: Pinochet
- Nicaraga: Somoza
and the list could go on.
The topic of this thread was " The US is a bigger threat...".
And this time, the US is the only country using unilateral pre-emptive military actions against other soverign country, or threatning them ( North Korea, Syria, Iran, Cuba).
Now, good could come out of this bad situation if properly handled.
Last edited by directfiesta; 11-01-2003, 04:02 PM.
I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....
Originally posted by directfiesta US invaded a sovereign country also ten years ago: Grenada.
That is correct, but not pertinent.
Originally posted by directfiesta The topic of this thread was " The US is a bigger threat...".
And this time, the US is the only country using unilateral pre-emptive military actions against other soverign country, or threatning them ( North Korea, Syria, Iran, Cuba).
This strike is neither 'pre-emptive' or 'unilateral'. Saying it doesn't make it true.
Threatening?
Are you kidding?
Cuba?
hahaha.
Originally posted by directfiesta Now, good could come out of this bad situation if properly handled.
While fighting is growing in intensity in southern Afghanistan, as US forces engage resurgent Taliban forces in the Pashtun heartlands two years after they were supposed to have been defeated, the jockeying for power in the north is between three main groups, all of which are financed and supported by the Americans.
Originally posted by theking What world peace are you referring to? Since the beginning of life it has been "survival of the fittest". There has never been a time of "peace".
Ugly thruth.
I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....
THERE WILL NEVER BE WORLD PEACE SO GET OVER THAT RIGHT NOW!!! There will always be some asshole somewhere. It's called human nature.
It is sad that most of Europe thinks George Bush and Mr. Sharon are more of a threat to world peace than Saddam Hussein and Bin Laden.
I am sick and tired of hearing all this twisted shit about freaking oil. Just once think of it like this, FRANCE GERMANY AND RUSSIA didn't want to stop Saddam from fucking torturing people, cutting off there ears, raping women in front of their husbands, throwing people off building with their hands tied behind their backs, putting people in fucking plastic shredders feet first all because they didn't follow Saddam sick fuck head way of being. You know why France, Germany and Russia didn't want the US to stop him, they wanted their freaking OIL from IRAQ and they knew if the US went in they would loose their OIL!!! That is disgusting.
Right now Bush wants to ?Grant? the money to rebuild Iraq. He is not asking for the US to be paid back with oil. Certain Democrats in congress are saying we should not pay to have this country rebuilt and they think we should be paid back with the Iraqi oil. Guess what happens if those Democrats get their way? Liberals will turn around and say, "See we went there to get their oil." MY GOD MAN WHEN IS IT GOING TO END. He was a threat to everyone. He is a terrorist himself. Look what he did to his own people. If you are going to believe and trust that that man was no threat you have problems. THEY FUCKING LIE ALL THE TIME.) We were in the center of Baghdad and they were telling people that we weren't. And you believe them when they say they have no weapons. We haven't even been there a year. There are so many freaking caves and hideout and God knows what all over that place. It takes time. If we knew exactly where they were the UN would have found them. We have no idea were Saddam or Bin Laden are so I guess they don?t exist either.
You watch, just like Japan, we will help build them up and help them become a great fucking country so THEY can capitalize on their number one resource oil and they do not have to live in fear. With that freedom and liberty they will be able to produce more resources and live happier lives. Their kids can ride their bikes in the streets and go to school. It took 5 years for Japan to get back on their feet and Iraq is way more fucked up that Japan was.
The bottom line is it is about oil. You guys are viewing it in the wrong context. We want oil to better everyone?s lives, to make more products, to have growth in the world. Saddam wants it for power and to suppress people.
Amen.
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Isaelis have been busted doing terrorist activities pretending to be Arabs, even wearing disguises and broadcasting fake arabic terrorist messages which lead to Reagan bombing Libya, as well as planting bombs trying to make it look like islamic extremists and having one explode prematurely.
Any people caught doing such things can surely be capable of doing it over and over.
Yes Israel is a threeat.
More multiple reasons. Its connections to our federal Reserve, and others.
While this may not represent my thoughts on it, there are clearly people who believe them to be a definite problem.
Lest we forget, it was Israeli intelligence operatives, dressed as Arabs who blew up American buildings in Egypt, done for the purpose of blaming the Arabs in an event known as the Lavon Affair.
Lest we forget, it was Israel who sent a team of covert operatives into Libya, rented an apartment near Khaddafi?s headquarters, and broadcast radio messages in Arabic to make it sound like terrorist cell planning in what was known as Operation Trojan Horse. As a result of this, air strikes were launched against the Libyans under completely false pretenses for Israel?s benefit.
Lest we forget, it was Israeli intelligence who was handling the Monica Lewinsky affair for the purposes of blackmailing then president Bill Clinton. Having, as Clinton admitted, tapped his phone, ?America?s only ally? in the Middle East held a gun to the head of her leader and blackmailed him into dropping his support for a peace plan between Israel and the Palestinians.
Lest we forget, in a theme similar to that which involved Monica Lewinsky, the whole business involving Chandra Levy and Congressman Gary Condit was managed by Israeli Intelligence. It is now postulated by investigators that their affair and her subsequent disappearance were an attempt to blackmail him into revealing what information his Intelligence Committee had on the 9/11 attacks.
Originally posted by Maru "According to El Pais, a massive 59 percent of Europeans said they believed that Israel is the biggest obstacle to world peace."
Its kind of tough to stop fighting when most Arab countries rather see the Jews wiped off the face of the earth. So excuse them for fighting back and the US for helping them survive.
Originally posted by EZRhino
Its kind of tough to stop fighting when most Arab countries rather see the Jews wiped off the face of the earth. So excuse them for fighting back and the US for helping them survive.
Fighting back?? They have the most powerful military in the region. They can walk into any of the neighbouring countries at will. Fighting back?? Get a clue man.
One of the few things that I remember from the 60's is the news talking about them fighting constantly. I think I gave up in the 80's of ever believing that they would EVER stop. At least in my lifetime.
I don't think Bush is helping things either. He was just here in town and we had tolisten to his speech or turn the tv off so we listned. Curious if he had any serious changes of his policies. Sheesh is all I can say. All he had to say is we are 'winning' on everything that is messed up. lol And hey, the economy is the best ever (ahem layoffs in the news again that day)
Wonder how many gfy'rs are going to be talking him up THIS time around. lol
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Being involved in wars, doesn't mean a threat to world peace.
A threat to world peace is more like when nuclear weapons fall into the hands of insane dictators like Sadam Hussein
There's that insane propaganda again!
Why don't we worry about REAL INSANE people that have nuclear weapons like in North Korea?
You watch, just like Japan, we will help build them up and help them become a great fucking country so THEY can capitalize on their number one resource oil and they do not have to live in fear. With that freedom and liberty they will be able to produce more resources and live happier lives. Their kids can ride their bikes in the streets and go to school. It took 5 years for Japan to get back on their feet and Iraq is way more fucked up that Japan was.
Amazing that over 50 years later, people keep using Japan as a role model in fixing up Iraq.
It just doesn't wash!
Iraq has no infrastructure to speak of..Japan did!
Japan had a very educated populace..Iraq doesn't!
The Japanese did not fight any sort of guerilla war against the U.S. as is happening now in Iraq.
It was more than the United States pouring money and goods into Japan..in Iraq..it's basically just the United States.
Japan was an INDUSTRIALZED society..Iraq was not and never will be!
Instead you condemn the US for enforcing a cease-fire agreement and fighting a was against a government that supported Bin Laden.
1)The U.S. avoided going through the U.N. because it couldn't get a majority on the security council to back the war! That sounds like the U.N. was begging us to "enforce" a "cease-fire agreement"? Gimme a break!
2)Even funnier: "supported Bin Laden"...Bin Laden HATED Saddam and vice versa. There was NO support either way.
Why don't we worry about REAL INSANE people that have nuclear weapons like in North Korea?
Hmm...if you would read a news paper occasionally you would learn that we do "worry about REAL INSANE people that have nuclear weapons like in North Korea". Oops...I forgot...you are the one that has a major comprehension problem...forget about reading a paper.
When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
More than half of Europe will be Islamic within 50 years based on immigration stats and declining birth rates.
True - and those who oppose Europe getting islamitized are getting slandered and insulted every day in the leading European media - which happen to be controlled by Jews.
1.3 billions Arabs on this planet
1.1 billions Arabs living in 60 or so Arab countries
13 millions Jews on this planet
6 millions Jews living in 1 Jewish country
From 2000 to 2002:
36,795 reported act of terrorism
36,346 commited by Muslims "extremists"
9 commited by Jewish "extremists"
362 commited by Christians "extremists"
44 commited by Indians "extremists"
34 commited by "animal rights/nature lovers"
5679 deaths (99% of those in Muslims acts of terrorism)
23,000+ wounded
They say a picture speaks a thousand words...
Numbers speak a millions word...
Yea?!?.....Well, there is 3.6 pink pussies walking this planet, and WOMEN control it all......hehe.......
Fuck the money.......fuck the oil......it is all about power and maintenence of control. The true motivator of those with the aristocratic nature. The money and the oil are only man induced neccessities of modern life. They are treated as a means to an end. ...control of money flow and oil resources equals power. It wouldnt matter what the means is, even if it was cheeseburgers. He who has the most cheeseburger stands, has the most influence on your kids...metaphorically speaking.
It is a very basic principle which happens to be now involving the entire world in preperation of another paradigm shift. ...
Get ready, because we aint seen shit yet........
No..I do not agree.
The biggest threats to world peace are militarized countries.
what if you lived in a small country surrounded by big countries that the only thing they would like to do is to push you into the sea. Wouldn't you want your country to have a strong army to DEFEND your ass?!
remember, IDF stand's for Israel Defence Force!!!
The IDF doesn't threat anyone who haven't threatened Israel and it's civilians
THERE was ruin and terror in Manhattan, but, over the Hudson River in New Jersey, a handful of men were dancing. As the World Trade Centre burned and crumpled, the five men celebrated and filmed the worst atrocity ever committed on American soil as it played out before their eyes.
Who do you think they were? Palestinians? Saudis? Iraqis, even? Al-Qaeda, surely? Wrong on all counts. They were Israelis ? and at least two of them were Israeli intelligence agents, working for Mossad, the equivalent of MI6 or the CIA.
Their discovery and arrest that morning is a matter of indisputable fact. To those who have investigated just what the Israelis were up to that day, the case raises one dreadful possibility: that Israeli intelligence had been shadowing the al-Qaeda hijackers as they moved from the Middle East through Europe and into America where they trained as pilots and prepared to suicide-bomb the symbolic heart of the United States. And the motive? To bind America in blood and mutual suffering to the Israeli cause.
After the attacks on New York and Washington, the former Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, was asked what the terrorist strikes would mean for US-Israeli relations. He said: ?It?s very good.? Then he corrected himself, adding: ?Well, it?s not good, but it will generate immediate sympathy [for Israel from Americans].?
'In the car was $4700 in cash, a couple of foreign passports and a pair of box cutters ? the concealed Stanley Knife-type blades used by the 19 hijackers who?d flown jetliners into the World Trade Centre and Pentagon just hours before. There were also fresh pictures of the men standing with the smouldering wreckage of the Twin Towers in the background. One image showed a hand flicking a lighter in front of the devastated buildings, like a fan at a pop concert. The driver of the van then told the arresting officers: ?We are Israeli. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are the problem.?'
Originally posted by Fletch XXX Isaelis have been busted doing terrorist activities pretending to be Arabs, even wearing disguises and broadcasting fake arabic terrorist messages which lead to Reagan bombing Libya, as well as planting bombs trying to make it look like islamic extremists and having one explode prematurely.
Any people caught doing such things can surely be capable of doing it over and over.
Yes Israel is a threeat.
More multiple reasons. Its connections to our federal Reserve, and others.
While this may not represent my thoughts on it, there are clearly people who believe them to be a definite problem.
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