only she and Kobe really know...but posting pics of her showing some leg on the front of a magazine doesn't mean shes a lying whore. why do people get soo sucked in by the media - it's exactly what they want u to do.
Originally posted by myjah only she and Kobe really know...but posting pics of her showing some leg on the front of a magazine doesn't mean shes a lying whore. why do people get soo sucked in by the media - it's exactly what they want u to do.
Do you think the Globe should publish her name and a full color picture on the cover?
They publish Kobe's name and picture on the cover.
Dude, every body knows her name now. What difference does it make? And why the fuck did they blur out her face? I haven't really seen what she looks like!
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Originally posted by genomega I think it sends a clear message to women that if they get raped
they might as well enjoy it because if they file charges they will get fucked again.
NJ last month repealed their rape shield laws.
Well, I don't think she got raped, so it is a different story! What if she said yes! I think she is after the money, that is probably all that bitch cares about!
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Well, I don't think she got raped, so it is a different story! What if she said yes! I think she is after the money, that is probably all that bitch cares about!
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And you just proved my point you just know she asked for it
based on nothing.
Do you think the Globe should publish her name and a full color picture on the cover?
They publish Kobe's name and picture on the cover.
what the fuck does that have to do with what i said? Publish her name and picture - it's plastered on T.V. already. But they don't have to depict her as some slut - you don't see them showing Kobe taking off his shirt.
Originally posted by JDog Dude, every body knows her name now. What difference does it make? And why the fuck did they blur out her face? I haven't really seen what she looks like!
jDoG
The Globe didn't blur her face, it's shown without blur on the real cover. The site I linked the image from blurred it.
What I'd like to know is if anyone heard her yelling, kicking and screaming? My personal opinion is that on a professional level, you do not go into the guest's room unless you are 1) room service (which normally the guest is not around) 2) room service (don't close the door - drop off the food, get a signature and outta there)
I think if I was a rape victim, I would have run down the hallway screaming until I reach the front desk - not silently leave and go to the hospital a little later. I guess people react differently depending on the trauma.
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Originally posted by genomega I think it sends a clear message to women that if they get raped
they might as well enjoy it because if they file charges they will get fucked again.
NJ last month repealed their rape shield laws.
How do YOU know she got raped? That's the problem...If woman charges a man with rape, her name should be announced unless she's a minor...There are too many ways a woman can fuck a man where she cries rape, the MAN gets arrested, the MAN has to pay thousands for bail and lawyers, the MAN gets his name dragged through the mud in the media, while the WOMAN gets to sit on her ass in in hiding...If the man is proven to be innocent, the woman gets to walk off scott free while the man has his reputation to save...Fuck that...
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How do YOU know she got raped? That's the problem...If woman charges a man with rape, her name should be announced unless she's a minor...There are too many ways a woman can fuck a man where she cries rape, the MAN gets arrested, the MAN has to pay thousands for bail and lawyers, the MAN gets his name dragged through the mud in the media, while the WOMAN gets to sit on her ass in in hiding...If the man is proven to be innocent, the woman gets to walk off scott free while the man has his reputation to save...Fuck that...
Actually, although I'm a woman - I think its sad but see it the same way. If you've been raped why should you be hiding? You haven't done anything wrong...and you shouldn't be ashamed.
Any man that will leave you or not date you because of it is just a loser anyway. If it's to protect your kids...silence and pretending nothing is happening is not doing your family any better - more so since people & media are scrambling to find you and blow it out of proportion.
I just think that if she wasn't looking to get something out of him, she shouldn't have gone in his room with the door closed. She should have been yelling and screaming for dear life.
That's just my
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How do YOU know she got raped? That's the problem...If woman charges a man with rape, her name should be announced unless she's a minor...There are too many ways a woman can fuck a man where she cries rape, the MAN gets arrested, the MAN has to pay thousands for bail and lawyers, the MAN gets his name dragged through the mud in the media, while the WOMAN gets to sit on her ass in in hiding...If the man is proven to be innocent, the woman gets to walk off scott free while the man has his reputation to save...Fuck that...
How do YOU know she got raped? That's the problem...If woman charges a man with rape, her name should be announced unless she's a minor...There are too many ways a woman can fuck a man where she cries rape, the MAN gets arrested, the MAN has to pay thousands for bail and lawyers, the MAN gets his name dragged through the mud in the media, while the WOMAN gets to sit on her ass in in hiding...If the man is proven to be innocent, the woman gets to walk off scott free while the man has his reputation to save...Fuck that...
Actually, although I'm a woman - I think its sad but see it the same way. If you've been raped why should you be hiding? You haven't done anything wrong...and you shouldn't be ashamed.
Any man that will leave you or not date you because of it is just a loser anyway. If it's to protect your kids...silence and pretending nothing is happening is not doing your family any better - more so since people & media are scrambling to find you and blow it out of proportion.
I just think that if she wasn't looking to get something out of him, she shouldn't have gone in his room with the door closed. She should have been yelling and screaming for dear life.
That's just my
That's a really stupid way to look at it. Not trying to be rude or anything, but it is.
Most victims of these types of crimes find it an extremely degrading experience, and just for that reason don't want the whole world to know.
It's most often not because of a man leaving them or dating them that they want to remain anonymous (most victims eventually tell their loved ones about such things happening), it's about complete strangers hearing about it.
Now, some people have no problem with everyone they meet knowing about what they themselves consider the most de-humanizing, degrading and gruesome experience they've ever had, but many do.
Not only that, if the victim isn't kept anonymous, there are a few things you can be sure of.
The first is that some people will not believe them, and consider them sluts and such. Ofcourse, those people are losers... losers who happen to be colleaques, customers, family, etc, in other words, losers who are rather hard to avoid. Many of these losers have no problem whatsoever confronting the victim with their dumb-ass opinions at completely random times.
The second is that some people will believe them, and try to support them. Now, support from close friends, relatives, etc. can be very helpful for some. However, "support" from a vague acquiantance in the grocery store most often does NOT help.
Now, exposing the victim ensures that their life will be changed forever, probably in a very negative way. Since it's a crime that has been committed *against* them, that hardly seems fair, now does it?
As for the comment about her being in the room with him with the door closed: it happens quite often to me that I'm in a room with a woman, with the door closed. Does that mean I have the right to rape them if they don't scream hard enough? (for instance because I've threatened them, punched them out, or they're just too shocked by what's happening to respond adequately)
Rape is a terrible crime, unfortunately we live in a day and age where the word is thrown around too easily. Alot of times now its buyers remorse, a couple of months ago there was a story in the news. This girl online is looking to fuck three guys at once ,she finds them on line, has sex with them. She tells a friend who tells her parents(she was 18) in a panick she says she was raped. The three guys are arrested and sitting in jail waiting trial luckily one of the guys hid a video camera to record the fun. On the video there she was saying what she was going to do to each guy and doing it. They were released immediately, if that guy didnt hide that camera they would all be in jail. I worked with this model who was 19 and told me she had been raped four different times by four different men on four different ocassions. Now you have a better chance of getting hit by lightining. I think the word is thrown around way too easy, to me rape is some poor lady in a alley attacked walking home from work. Rape is not a sexual act, alot of what we hear about are highly sexual acts. They should come up with a new charge for it "Sex that didnt go the way I planned"
That would be a very good idea, although I think the victim shouldn't be named in any case unless they agree to it themself.
That is how it is suppose to work in the UK and more often then not it does. We had a couple cases lately where the suspects were famous men and in the end the men came out and said their names because the press was pressuring them. One trial hasn't happened yet and the other the guy was found not guilty.
Originally posted by hyatla She is a slut. She is after money. Kobe is innocent.
Any sane people can see that, but they just want to play along, like flies enjoying dead body.
Are you basing the fact that he is innocent on your extensive knowledge of the facts of the case or Kobe's attornys and the media's portayal of this girl as a cock loving money hungry slut?
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This playing victim shit has got to stop. The William Smith Kennedy case, I watched the whole trial. That woman was out to party that night. At a club dressed sexy, lookin for love, which is A-OKAY, finds a Kennedy says yea yo. Fucks him, and then cries rape. After the whole damn drawn out trial the drunken ass women was scorned because William called out another women?s name while they were screwing. He was found not guilty. SHE SHOULD HAVE GONE TO JAIL!!!
A little different story but Mike Tyson, which I believe is a true beast, accused of rape. I am a women and okay on the eyes, when I am dressed very very sexy and provocative I am causations of my actions. If I hook up with a man and its 3 am we are both loaded, and he invites me to his hotel room I know what the hell he wants. What did she think he wanted to do, have milk and freaking cookies? Come on. I think what happen there is they played and the freaking animal in Tyson got way to rough which that is what he should have been accused of. If I have sex with a man and then he starts beating the shit out of me I am going to the cops and saying look we were having sex and he started hitting me.
I take responsibility for my actions. Sorry women but we are the more attractive human and the physically weaker one too. So we need to use are heads a little more. There is nothing wrong with dressing like a Playboy Playmate and going out and having fun, but be responsible for you. Rape is horrible. I am NOT IN ANYWAY SAYING THAT A MAN HAS A RIGHT TO RAPE A GIRL IF SHE DOESN?T THINK AND IS DRESSED SEXY!!! Any descent man would do nothing but treat her like a lady. But there are assholes out there and that is a fact.
This little girl was running around with 2 guys sperm in her underwear, is known for being a partier, has tried to commit suicide, she's an attention whore. What a great way to get attention. Well she has got it now. If he had really raped her I think she would be the type of girl to go running down the hall like a Hollywood drama queen to get the attention she is craving. She is apparently not a shy girl. She wants attention. Someone who ATTEMPTS suicide doesn't really want to die, they just want attention. If they wanted to die they would! If he is found not guilty, which I believe he is not guilty, SHE SHOULD GO TO JAIL!!
I think all these women who were not raped crying that they were raped and then the man getting off because it was a lie, is aiding in the fear of the women who are really raped to come forward. That is why I believe the liars SHOULD GO TO JAIL!!
Kobe Bryant is a dumb punk whose life should be in ruins!
He is a married man. He had no business fucking anyone, but he did. Couldn't keep his pecker in his pants. Poor Boy! Ha!
He was an example to young black kids growing up in the ghetto who wanted to be like him. No excuses. He fucked up! Like Baddog said, he is screwed whether he is convicted of rape or not.
It's so low class spending millions and millions of dollars on cars and jewelry. He could have spent that money on programs for poor young ghetto kids. He could have spent the money on his family and starving people in Africa.
How do YOU know she got raped? That's the problem...If woman charges a man with rape, her name should be announced unless she's a minor...There are too many ways a woman can fuck a man where she cries rape, the MAN gets arrested, the MAN has to pay thousands for bail and lawyers, the MAN gets his name dragged through the mud in the media, while the WOMAN gets to sit on her ass in in hiding...If the man is proven to be innocent, the woman gets to walk off scott free while the man has his reputation to save...Fuck that...
How do YOU know she got raped? That's the problem...If woman charges a man with rape, her name should be announced unless she's a minor...There are too many ways a woman can fuck a man where she cries rape, the MAN gets arrested, the MAN has to pay thousands for bail and lawyers, the MAN gets his name dragged through the mud in the media, while the WOMAN gets to sit on her ass in in hiding...If the man is proven to be innocent, the woman gets to walk off scott free while the man has his reputation to save...Fuck that...
If Kobe was accused of raping you would you want your name, picture, home address, telephone number, and mental history plasterd all over the place?
[QUOTE]Originally posted by MicroChick Kobe Bryant is a dumb punk whose life should be in ruins!
He is a married man. He had no business fucking anyone, but he did. Couldn't keep his pecker in his pants. Poor Boy! Ha!
He was an example to young black kids growing up in the ghetto who wanted to be like him. No excuses. He fucked up! Like Baddog said, he is screwed whether he is convicted of rape or not.
It's so low class spending millions and millions of dollars on cars and jewelry. He could have spent that money on programs for poor young ghetto kids. He could have spent the money on his family and starving people in Africa.
Rot in hell, Kobe![/QUOTE
People have to take responsiblity for their own actions. If he wasn't cheating on his wife none of this would be happening. He brought this on himself.
Originally posted by MicroChick Kobe Bryant is a dumb punk whose life should be in ruins!
He is a married man. He had no business fucking anyone, but he did. Couldn't keep his pecker in his pants. Poor Boy! Ha!
He was an example to young black kids growing up in the ghetto who wanted to be like him. No excuses. He fucked up! Like Baddog said, he is screwed whether he is convicted of rape or not.
It's so low class spending millions and millions of dollars on cars and jewelry. He could have spent that money on programs for poor young ghetto kids. He could have spent the money on his family and starving people in Africa.
Rot in hell, Kobe!
That is some of the dumbest shit I ever heard in my life!! Because someone cheats means they should be convicted of rape and face life in jail??
Maybe Kobe should spend money on programs for the poor, (and maybe he did...how do you know?) but it's his money, and he can spend it any damn way he wants. How many starving people do you feed? Maybe you should get rid of some of your nicer things, and feed starving people with the proceeds. If you don't, are you a rapist??
jennym, reread my post. I didn't say Kobe was guilty of rape...I'm saying he did something very dumb by fucking this young woman. He is married to a beautiful young woman and he has a young child. Whether he wants the position or not, he was looked up to by millions of young boys who dreamed of being a star in sports like him.
Sure, we all have some weak moments, and I don't care who Kobe fucks or doesn't fuck. The thing is, he acted like a dumb bastard. He spends millions buying one lousy ring to make up for his mistake. He drives around in his Bentleys and acts like an asshole.
It's his money to do with as he pleases, but if he wants to buy respect, he should give it to the underprivileged, not that money-grabbing bitch he married.
He deserves what he gets....guilty of rape or not.
I believe its all fair. Kobe's face is all over the media,
As a man i'd feel just as degraded for being accused of rape or getting raped. Especially a high profile case like this. It's gotta be a complete embarrasement, but he is partly to blame for starting it all
But i guess life is just a double standard, black or white, male or female
Originally posted by sarah_webinc or don't name either party until after the trial?
I agree.
If you're interested in reading a good book about how hard it is to report and get a conviction when there's a rape, read Lucky by Alice Sebold
Unfortunately, the more the press shows this girl's face, body, name, address, past sexual experiences, etc. the less likely women who have been raped will report it - especially if they've been raped by someone famous.
Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com This playing victim shit has got to stop. The William Smith Kennedy case, I watched the whole trial. That woman was out to party that night. At a club dressed sexy, lookin for love, which is A-OKAY, finds a Kennedy says yea yo. Fucks him, and then cries rape. After the whole damn drawn out trial the drunken ass women was scorned because William called out another women?s name while they were screwing. He was found not guilty. SHE SHOULD HAVE GONE TO JAIL!!!
Kind of like you were playing the victim during your brief camwhore stint?
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And what happened to Tyson? They had less evidence against him.
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