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10-29-2003, 07:26 PM

Before i even start im going to state right now I am extremly upset and i have no fucking idea what to do right now and I DO NOT SUPPORT ABORTION !

I just found out the lady that was carrying MY CHILD got an abortion today.

I have no clue what to do. What the hell kind of shit is this ? She went and got an abortion without asking me ? Her and I got into a fight about a week ago and she has been extremly hateful ever sence then and today i found out she had a doctors apointment and so i got in touch with her to find out what happend with the docotrs because she is almost 4 months along so i thought she was going in to find out some info about the baby but instead i find out she got an abortion without even asking me ....... should these clinic's ask BOTH party's before doing this ?

im going to get flammed i know it so in advance

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10-29-2003, 07:29 PM

Damn...

Sucks man...

Also, i didnt know you could get an abortion that late in a pregnacy...

Shit man..

This sucks.
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10-29-2003, 07:29 PM

On a lighter side.........

i fucked her.

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10-29-2003, 07:30 PM

Originally posted by boneprone
Damn...

Sucks man...

Also, i didnt know you could get an abortion that late in a pregnacy...

Shit man..

This sucks.
You have a right to be mad.

I don't know shit about this stuff but i was reading and i saw something about up to 6 months and the 6th month makes it a partial birth abortion or something

im so fucking out of it right now

it went from a great day to the wrost day of my life.

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10-29-2003, 07:30 PM

I'm pro-choice, but very sorry about your pain. Sounds like you are lucky to be rid of this woman.

If this story is real.

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10-29-2003, 07:30 PM

who gives a shit what you think?
if you arent the one carying the baby for 9 months no one even going to give a flying fuck about you...
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10-29-2003, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
I'm pro-choice, but very sorry about your pain. Sounds like you are lucky to be rid of this woman.

If this story is real.

Yes it is very real , there are a few people on here who know me in real life and the girl aswell

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10-29-2003, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by Oracle Porn
who gives a shit what you think?
if you arent the one carying the baby for 9 months no one even going to give a flying fuck about you...

That's more or less the way it is. Women are free to murder babies all day long and you as the father can't do shit about it.
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10-29-2003, 07:34 PM

Originally posted by twistyneck

That's more or less the way it is. Women are free to murder babies all day long and you as the father can't do shit about it.

... Sigh ... That is what it is looking like.

90% of the time women win custody cases

and they can get an abortion with out asking the father.

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10-29-2003, 07:35 PM

Damn that suck . My girl got abortion last week and we still can't fuck . She was getting injection but looks like contraception failed.

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10-29-2003, 07:35 PM

Originally posted by boneprone
On a lighter side.........

i fucked her.

See it might have been Boneprone's baby so she might have done the right thing!
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10-29-2003, 07:35 PM

Originally posted by twistyneck

That's more or less the way it is. Women are free to murder babies all day long and you as the father can't do shit about it.

unless the "thing" didn't come out of her stinkin pussy it is not a baby!
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10-29-2003, 07:35 PM

Sorry to hear about that. I had something like that happen to me once. It really sucks.

There's nothing you can do about unfortunately, because of how the laws are in this fucked up country.

A man can have his unborn child legally murdered by the woman without his consent or knowledge.

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10-29-2003, 07:35 PM

Please dont get any girls pregnant. I think you already stated you're making under $1k/month? I dont want to have to support your child through my taxes. Thanks

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10-29-2003, 07:35 PM

Originally posted by JupZChris

... Sigh ... That is what it is looking like.

90% of the time women win custody cases

and they can get an abortion with out asking the father.

What is this world coming to

I don't know man but it is sad.
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10-29-2003, 07:36 PM

Originally posted by Oracle Porn

unless the "thing" didn't come out of her stinkin pussy it is not a baby!

Fuck that argument is so damn lame.

Its a fucking living being the moment conception occurs and the cells start creating a human.

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10-29-2003, 07:37 PM

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Please dont get any girls pregnant. I think you already stated you're making under $1k/month? I dont want to have to support your child through my taxes. Thanks

Sorry i make more than a month and i have already been supporting her and gave her anything she asked for

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10-29-2003, 07:38 PM

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Fuck that argument is so damn lame.

Its a fucking living being the moment conception occurs and the cells start creating a human.

a fly is a living being too!
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10-29-2003, 07:38 PM

Originally posted by JupZChris
Before i even start im going to state right now I am extremly upset and i have no fucking idea what to do right now and I DO NOT SUPPORT ABORTION !

I just found out the lady that was carrying MY CHILD got an abortion today.

I have no clue what to do. What the hell kind of shit is this ? She went and got an abortion without asking me ? Her and I got into a fight about a week ago and she has been extremly hateful ever sence then and today i found out she had a doctors apointment and so i got in touch with her to find out what happend with the docotrs because she is almost 4 months along so i thought she was going in to find out some info about the baby but instead i find out she got an abortion without even asking me ....... should these clinic's ask BOTH party's before doing this ?

im going to get flammed i know it so in advance

FUCK YOU GUYS im extrely upset right now and i honestly dont give a FUCK what you flamers are going to say so go ahead and post here to get your fucking 25 cents to post.

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10-29-2003, 07:39 PM

Originally posted by JupZChris

Sorry i make more than a month and i have already been supporting her and gave her anything she asked for

Unless she asked for a good stiffy in her pussy you don't have to give her shit now
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10-29-2003, 07:45 PM

Personally, I am pro-choice, BUT there are many fucked up things about it both ways.

Pro-choice bads - this case exactly. The father should have some say. And don't hand me this crap about a woman having to carry the baby. She has complete control of her body! If she can't handle the consequences of sex, she should keep her fucking legs closed!

Pro-life bads - Babies are kept and raised, abused, and neglected by fucktards! (This is my main reason for being pro-choice) Plus the fact that women are raped, and should not be forced to carry a child from such a tramatic event.

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10-29-2003, 07:57 PM

I am also Pro Choice so please keep that in mind when you read my answer to you.

I am sorry this happend to you. However it is her choice, it is her body, it is ultimatly her who will raise that child (you said girlfriend, not wife)

I don't know how old you are, what state of mind your girlfriend is in, maybe she thought you guys where to young, maybe she was afraid that you wouldn't stick around. etc etc

There are many reasons why a woman chooses abortion without telling the soon to be father.

If I would be a guy, I would be bumed out also, however I am a women and I know first hand what it means to get it up the hoo hoo from a guy.

I was pregnant with 17, geez I was in love, I thought he loved me, I was pregnant and I thought we would be together all our lives. To late I learned that he was a womanizer, he was always around young girls, had his affairs etc etc

I was on my own with 19 and a baby boy. Alone with no Job, he didn't have a lot of income so child support was not existing. Abortion was not an obtion in 1978 in Germany Paragraph 218 its illegal to have one.

In your girlfriends case its different. Maybe she saw something you don't see in yourself.

Youre a porn peddler, youre on GFY, you are around women and maybe she thought it would never work and she be stuck with the baby and wasn't ready for it. However she didn't tell you because maybe she knew that you would tell her, its ok hunny we manage somehow

Maybe she wanted better for the baby and she wasn't ready yet to give the child that. Youre not married to her, so its her decision.

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10-29-2003, 07:59 PM

Originally posted by steffie
I am also Pro Choice so please keep that in mind when you read my answer to you.

I am sorry this happend to you. However it is her choice, it is her body, it is ultimatly her who will raise that child (you said lady?, not wife)

I don't know how old you are, what state of mind your girlfriend is in, maybe she thought you guys where to young, maybe she was afraid that you wouldn't stick around. etc etc

There are many reasons why a woman chooses abortion without telling the soon to be father.

If I would be a guy, I would be bumed out also, however I am a women and I know first hand what it means to get it up the hoo hoo from a guy.

I was pregnant with 17, geez I was in love, I thought he loved me, I was pregnant and I thought we would be together all our lives. To late I learned that he was a womanizer, he was always around young girls, had his affairs etc etc

I was on my own with 19 and a baby boy. Alone with no Job, he didn't have a lot of income so child support was not existing. Abortion was not an obtion in 1978 in Germany Paragraph 218 its illegal to have one.

In your girlfriends case its different. Maybe she saw something you don't see in yourself.

Youre a porn peddler, youre on GFY, you are around women and maybe she thought it would never work and she be stuck with the baby and wasn't ready for it. However she didn't tell you because maybe she knew that you would tell her, its ok hunny we manage somehow

Maybe she wanted better for the baby and she wasn't ready yet to give the child that. Youre not married to her, so its her decision.

Sorry dude -- Wear a condom next time than you won't have to worry about that.

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10-29-2003, 08:00 PM

abortion = responsibility

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10-29-2003, 08:04 PM

was she on the pill and take it correctly?

Sorry to hear that man, its a hard thing to decide. I think both should agree to it.. Why did it take so long to get one? usually best to do it within the 1st 3 months.

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10-29-2003, 08:09 PM

Originally posted by steffie
I am also Pro Choice so please keep that in mind when you read my answer to you.

I am sorry this happend to you. However it is her choice, it is her body, it is ultimatly her who will raise that child (you said girlfriend, not wife)

I don't know how old you are, what state of mind your girlfriend is in, maybe she thought you guys where to young, maybe she was afraid that you wouldn't stick around. etc etc

There are many reasons why a woman chooses abortion without telling the soon to be father.

If I would be a guy, I would be bumed out also, however I am a women and I know first hand what it means to get it up the hoo hoo from a guy.

I was pregnant with 17, geez I was in love, I thought he loved me, I was pregnant and I thought we would be together all our lives. To late I learned that he was a womanizer, he was always around young girls, had his affairs etc etc

I was on my own with 19 and a baby boy. Alone with no Job, he didn't have a lot of income so child support was not existing. Abortion was not an obtion in 1978 in Germany Paragraph 218 its illegal to have one.

In your girlfriends case its different. Maybe she saw something you don't see in yourself.

Youre a porn peddler, youre on GFY, you are around women and maybe she thought it would never work and she be stuck with the baby and wasn't ready for it. However she didn't tell you because maybe she knew that you would tell her, its ok hunny we manage somehow

Maybe she wanted better for the baby and she wasn't ready yet to give the child that. Youre not married to her, so its her decision.

Sorry dude -- Wear a condom next time than you won't have to worry about that.

I respect your option as a women and as prochoice .... I wanted to hear a womens view on this and thank you tow the two females who have answered. I can see some points on where she would have to carry it for 9 months but before she went ahead and spread her legs for me why didnt she think of that? This is the most fucked up things to happen to me.

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10-29-2003, 08:10 PM

Originally posted by IntenseCash
was she on the pill and take it correctly?

Sorry to hear that man, its a hard thing to decide. I think both should agree to it.. Why did it take so long to get one? usually best to do it within the 1st 3 months.

She said she was on the depo shot but i think she got it every three months i guess she was late on the shot

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10-29-2003, 08:10 PM

Originally posted by JupZChris

I respect your option as a women and as prochoice .... I wanted to hear a womens view on this and thank you tow the two females who have answered. I can see some points on where she would have to carry it for 9 months but before she went ahead and spread her legs for me why didnt she think of that? This is the most fucked up things to happen to me.

she spread her legs for you!!?

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10-29-2003, 08:14 PM

Originally posted by IntenseCash

she spread her legs for you!!?

You are the one who put your dick in.... sorry you are just as responsible

True, but he is not the one that ended the pregnancy. Sounds like he was willing to take responsibility for his actions....she wasn't.
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10-29-2003, 08:22 PM

Originally posted by jennym

True, but he is not the one that ended the pregnancy. Sounds like he was willing to take responsibility for his actions....she wasn't.

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10-29-2003, 08:36 PM

Originally posted by KRL

Fuck that argument is so damn lame.

Its a fucking living being the moment conception occurs and the cells start creating a human.

thats such a load of bullshit.. it's a potential human thats all, just like when i look across the room at my girl and get wood it's a potential human. just a strawberry jam smear.
after five or 6 months, yeah different story.

anyways, that aside I do have a very misty eyed paternal streak in me probably moreso at the moment given we're thinking about children and having your girl abort without your knowledge is fucked. still, we don't know all the details so it's a bit hard to judge.
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10-29-2003, 08:42 PM

The issue here is, that she didn't even tell him. It was half his child... the mother has rights but fathers don't? I think thats wrong. I don't support abortion and feel people should face the consequences of their actions, regardless of viewing it as a human or lump of cells. That's selfish and immature to make life altering decisions, without even telling him. I mean 4 months into it and he thought she was going to give birth in 5 more months, not up and kill it one day.

Sorry Chris... seems like you are better off without someone as self centered as she sounds.

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10-29-2003, 08:46 PM

Originally posted by Furious_Female
I don't support abortion and feel people should face the consequences of their actions, regardless of viewing it as a human or lump of cells.

The problem with this is....the parents don't suffer near as much as these unwanted children.
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10-29-2003, 08:46 PM

Originally posted by Furious_Female
I don't support abortion and feel people should face the consequences of their actions.

having an abortion *IS* facing the consequences of your actions, it's not a walk in the park.
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10-29-2003, 08:48 PM

Originally posted by jennym

The problem with this is....the parents don't suffer near as much as these unwanted children.

Definately. Fuck growing up with a mother that wanted to abort you and had you against her will.
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10-29-2003, 08:50 PM

anyways thats all seperate from the very low blow of having an abortion without telling dad.
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10-29-2003, 08:51 PM

You get insanely paternal and protective just KNOWING you're going to have a child, so it is a bad psychological loss.
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10-29-2003, 08:53 PM

Originally posted by bhutocracy

having an abortion *IS* facing the consequences of your actions, it's not a walk in the park.

I agree 100% teens having kids then "trying" to raise them with very little. I feel so bad for the kids.. its like oh mommy and daddy had to have sex and because of that you are our consequence.

WTF!!

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10-29-2003, 08:54 PM

Originally posted by bhutocracy
anyways thats all seperate from the very low blow of having an abortion without telling dad.

What good would it do to tell him? There is absolutely nothing he could have done to stop it.

But, I do agree that it was a totally shitty thing to do!
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10-29-2003, 08:55 PM

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The problem with this is....the parents don't suffer near as much as these unwanted children.

Oh I agree but consequences should include doing the best as possible for that child. Giving birth doesn't mean you did the right thing... its a lifetime of right things you have to do. I don't think abortion is the answer... I think people should stop having unsafe sex with people that don't plan on being with and/or when they can't agree on what to do if she gets pregnant. I personally feel, that if you aren't mature enough to know there's always a risk of pregnancy and raising a child, then you shouldn't even be having sex. Nothing is 100%.

And abortion is an easy way out of a mess, not a consequence.

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10-29-2003, 08:58 PM

Originally posted by jennym

What good would it do to tell him? There is absolutely nothing he could have done to stop it.

But, I do agree that it was a totally shitty thing to do!

because it would at least have involved him in the decision process and let him have a chance to talk her around whether it would have changed her mind or not. Even just to ease the blow, give him time to get used to the fact he's no longer going to be a dad etc. It's important.
Anyways we don't know any of the facts in their situation, what their fight was about, how their relationship was etc etc..
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10-29-2003, 09:01 PM

Originally posted by bhutocracy

having an abortion *IS* facing the consequences of your actions, it's not a walk in the park.

Again, I am pro-choice, BUT FUCKING PLEASE!!! Other than rape, women have complete control over their bodies. If they can't handle the consequences (getting pregnant), then they shouldn't spread their fucking legs. I don't feel sorry for them AT ALL for having to go through an abortion! "Aaawww, poor them, it's not a walk in the park!" Give me a fucking break!
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10-29-2003, 09:04 PM

Originally posted by JupZChris

I don't know shit about this stuff but i was reading and i saw something about up to 6 months and the 6th month makes it a partial birth abortion or something

im so fucking out of it right now

it went from a great day to the wrost day of my life.

Although i'm not really for or against it. Thats really fucked up to do it that far. I wonder if they give the baby any type of drug to make it not feel the pain? 6 months along.. you know they are thinking and feeling things.

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10-29-2003, 09:06 PM

Originally posted by Furious_Female

I think people should stop having unsafe sex with people that don't plan on being with and/or when they can't agree on what to do if she gets pregnant. I personally feel, that if you aren't mature enough to know there's always a risk of pregnancy and raising a child, then you shouldn't even be having sex. Nothing is 100%.

keep on "personally feeling" in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up first.
It's the real world not some touchy feely candy land. Even safe sex can result in pregnancy, and there will NEVER be a time when only mature people have sex so we have to deal with the very real consequences of real every day life, and that involves aborting when neccessary. It's unpleasant and noone WANTS to be in the situation where they have to do it but many people eventually do.
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10-29-2003, 09:06 PM

Originally posted by Furious_Female
Oh I agree but consequences should include doing the best as possible for that child.

And who is going to enforce this if abortion becomes illegal?? The answer is: NOBODY! Then we end up with even more abused, neglected and murdered children in this world. Not the best option if you ask me.
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10-29-2003, 09:08 PM

Originally posted by jennym

Again, I am pro-choice, BUT FUCKING PLEASE!!! Other than rape, women have complete control over their bodies. If they can't handle the consequences (getting pregnant), then they shouldn't spread their fucking legs. I don't feel sorry for them AT ALL for having to go through an abortion! "Aaawww, poor them, it's not a walk in the park!" Give me a fucking break!

things don't always go to plan in relationships and neither do they in safe sex, it's obviously something you've never gone through yourself (and neither have I quite obviously) so i'll happily give you all the breaks you want.
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10-29-2003, 09:10 PM

Originally posted by bhutocracy

keep on "personally feeling" in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up first.
It's the real world not some touchy feely candy land. Even safe sex can result in pregnancy, and there will NEVER be a time when only mature people have sex so we have to deal with the very real consequences of real every day life, and that involves aborting when neccessary. It's unpleasant and noone WANTS to be in the situation where they have to do it but many people eventually do.

No excuse for it this day in age (rape cases excluded). Safe sex is drilled into people from day one these days. There's umpteen contraceptives and there's abstinence. There's awareness... there's all sorts of shit. People should know better. It's not about an ideal pipe dream, it's about being in the year 2003 and no room for dumb mistakes at the pace humanity and technology are evolving.

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10-29-2003, 09:11 PM

There are many cases where I would agree wholeheartedly and feel not an ounce of empathy, but it's just blind ignorance to think each situation can be painted with the same brush.
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10-29-2003, 09:13 PM

Originally posted by jennym

And who is going to enforce this if abortion becomes illegal?? The answer is: NOBODY! Then we end up with even more abused, neglected and murdered children in this world. Not the best option if you ask me.

It's called self discipline and time to grow the fuck up. Even though the system is fucked up and people abuse kids, there are still enforcements in the world. Not everyone looks the other way when they see a problem. Again, if you can't handle possibly being a parent, don't have sex. Yeah that's unrealistic, but to reiterate, you can't turn a talk show on TV today without seeing what happens when you do stupid shit and the many ways of preventing it. Fuck all the pills and shots women shoulda/coulda/woulda taken... its guys too. Use a fuckin condom. Trust nothing

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10-29-2003, 09:18 PM

Originally posted by Furious_Female

No excuse for it this day in age (rape cases excluded). Safe sex is drilled into people from day one these days. There's umpteen contraceptives and there's abstinence. There's awareness... there's all sorts of shit. People should know better. It's not about an ideal pipe dream, it's about being in the year 2003 and no room for dumb mistakes at the pace humanity and technology are evolving.

holy crap. Until now i've just found you vaugely amusing in a patronising way. Safe sex, contrary to what millions of teens around the world are being taught isn't actually THAT SAFE. how about we just forget about the fact that no contraceptive is 100% effective and most don't even crack 95% and then lets talk abstinence and just ignore human nature and needs that normally requires serious religious indoctrination to prop up and even then often doesn't work.
ha if you're talking error reduction having kids is often a dumber mistake than aborting, at least you're narrowing the chances of potential fuckups.
anyways this is fast degenerating into farce. back to work.
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