Isn't it a breach of contract if they did give out any personal information? Wouldn't it be more productive to file a class action against them?
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Isn't it a breach of contract if they did give out any personal information? Wouldn't it be more productive to file a class action against them?
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Originally posted by klik
wow.. nice thread lil2rich
(first and last time i will ever say that)
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Originally posted by Kimmykim
Just out of curiousity, and while I am not doubting your proof, how'd the mailman get it to the right address?
I asked the same thing in the past to mail carriers when my address has been written wrong on a piece of mail, but yet it still somehow gets to me. Usually if the zipcode is correct, you'll get the mail...given that the address line is somewhat correct as well.
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so then unless i'm incorrect,
it can basically be said that if you buy content from Matrix that Acacia will come after you.
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I'm figuring that Montreal webmaster's should be receiving the acacia package by friday.Originally posted by iwantchixx
Everyone already knows it's them, I'm waiting for my packet any day now. I had to sign up to browse sets once upon a time. Time to bust heads folks.Social profile assassination for hireComment
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That fucking rat Neo. I never trust guys that wear sunglass indoors.
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Man that is fucked up.
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Originally posted by KRL
That fucking rat Neo. I never trust guys that wear sunglass indoors.
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thank you lil2rich4u2 - and you, too, jaYManGot Gay and For Women Traffic?
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that is so motherfucking FUCKED UP! You sign up to browse - not buy - but browse and look what happens.
FUCK YOU MATRIX.Comment
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post offices can figure out obvious errors, like if they know there is a Candlewood but no Candlestick . . . would be easy enough for them to figure outOriginally posted by Kimmykim
Just out of curiousity, and while I am not doubting your proof, how'd the mailman get it to the right address?Comment
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read the other thread. Matrix released a statement.Comment
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Yeh, wonderful now people who got their personal data devulged are being threatened with slander lawsuits for posting about it here.Originally posted by Equinox
read the other thread. Matrix released a statement.
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I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
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FUCK MATRIX!
Now I will never buy thier content. Shit i never would have anyways. A little to airbrush'y for me.Comment
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Originally posted by KRL
Yeh, wonderful now people who got their personal data devulged are being threatened with slander lawsuits for posting about it here.
Nice!
That is really fucked up. All these people are being threatened to be sued for slander on a public board for accusing Matrix of having handed over their customer infos... the folks are just trying to bring light into the dark...
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You mean boycott against those companies who handed your information to Acacia or companies that actually settled (ie: TCG, CECash, Platinum, etc...).Originally posted by Hooper
i've been unsure, but i'm beginning to lean towards a full boycott of those who have settled.
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i had a friend who wanted to get started into selling adult content, he shoots porn movies on video tapes for movie rental shops.. told him about matrix content and to sign up and check how they have shit setup, because he was looking to sell some of his stuff online but didn't understand how it all worked. he got his letter today and was all pissed off at me because he didn't know what this shit was, after i explained it to him, he said has the money to protect himself and sue for what they did, we will see..Comment
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statement from matrixcontent ...
quality quote from equinox ...Originally posted by NLB
First of all I would like to apologize for not being available. We were forced to evacuate our office due to the fires in California. First of all lil2rich4u2, I'll let your reputation back your accusations. We track all actions by user on the site. Why did you change info? I remember talking to you before. Oh yeah, it was because I caught you infringing my content! I could have shut you down, but instead gave you a warning. This will be my final post and statement on this board. We were not hacked. We did not give our list over. We have gone over every line of our logs. We have never sold our data and never will. The only other entity that has access to our database is our DMCA department. It will come out in discovery, and I truly believe that the people slandering my company will do so no matter how I try to convince them of the truth. At that time, and it will come, I have several cases of slander and defamation to file on all you people with "100%" proof. Payback is a bitch on wheels! The funny thing is the few people have called to prove themselves could not do so. Not one of my accusers on this board called. I don't believe Acaicia would use a list not obtained through proper channels, they would have too much to loose. Just like we would have to much to loose if we gave it over. So everyone who has supported us thank you very much, which includes the people fighting the fight and the IMPA. To my accusers GO FUCK YOURSELF. Again if you think you have real proof that can stand up in court I'm always available via the phone.
my response ...Originally posted by Equinox
lil2rich yet got another kick in the balls. nice one. once scam artist, alway... ya know the drill.
Whatever, let's face it. Matrix has the best content around, and therefore I will keep on buying from them.
Acacia can lick ma balls.
Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
what the fuck?
post proof or shut your fucking trap asshole ... making up shit lies about me or anyone else will not save your dumbass now.
my rep? how about the hundreds of others posting about you?
i didnt post an accusation, i posted PROOF ... and i NEVER changed my information ... EVER
show proof like i have, or shut the fuck up
i have NEVER violated you or your content, you are making shit up.
1. if this WAS the case, why the FUCK would i come on here and make this thread, knowing that i had infringed on whatever?
2. what difference would changing my information on your site make if i was infact cought for something?
3. all the matrix threads, and this is your only response?? FUCK YOU!!
post some fucking proof like i did, or shut your fucking trap ...
and thanks Equinox for that comment .. real fucking classy
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dude, what do you expect? do you really expect me to cover your back after all what you pulled in the past? p-lease.
gimme a break here. classy or not.Comment
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sign up to matrix content under microsoft's address
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Equinox, I have no hidden aagenda for the proof that I posted.
Before this, I could've cared 2 shits about Matrix or Acacia.
Don't have any sites that are in my name that have video, and I don't buy content.
I come home from a nice long weekend trip and see a lawsuit threat in the mail???
Fuck that.peace&profit,
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cover my back? fuck no.Originally posted by Equinox
dude, what do you expect? do you really expect me to cover your back after all what you pulled in the past? p-lease.
gimme a break here. classy or not.
but by you saying you will by from them regardless, is a stab in the back to everyone being fucked over, and has PROOF.
You are taking his few words and beleiving them, because of what?
What reason do i have to make anything up? Would i photoshop an acacia letter to match my matrix info ... just to tie them into it?
and would i do this, knowing that i have had legal issues with this company, and id hate for these issues to come public??
I have never, EVER had any dealings with them in my life ... legal or illigal.
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Shit on it, fold it up, put it in front of your neighbor's door and light it on fire.Originally posted by jaYMan
Equinox, I have no hidden aagenda for the proof that I posted.
Before this, I could've cared 2 shits about Matrix or Acacia.
Don't have any sites that are in my name that have video, and I don't buy content.
I come home from a nice long weekend trip and see a lawsuit threat in the mail???
Fuck that.Comment
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exactly the same situation here.Originally posted by jaYMan
Equinox, I have no hidden aagenda for the proof that I posted.
Before this, I could've cared 2 shits about Matrix or Acacia.
Don't have any sites that are in my name that have video, and I don't buy content.
I come home from a nice long weekend trip and see a lawsuit threat in the mail???
Fuck that.HEY!!
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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
i really dont care.
neither do I.Comment
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by zipcode & a mail man who knows his route & common (or no so common) typos?Originally posted by Kimmykim
Just out of curiousity, and while I am not doubting your proof, how'd the mailman get it to the right address?
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I think matrix content is doomed
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Chrétien said it best when questioned about matrix.
"A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven."
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Originally posted by Kimmykim
Just out of curiousity, and while I am not doubting your proof, how'd the mailman get it to the right address?
The mail sorter's job is so repetitious that after awhile they have lot of the names memorized.
My brother got a letter from my grandparents last year that just had his name ,city and zip code on ithttp://nakedlunchnews.comWhat's up ? Naked Lunch News !Comment
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I smell fire.
could be the hills and canyons outside.
either way, shits burning.
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Jayman is not the type of person to make something like this up and Rich is even smart enough to know that if he came here posting false info he could get sued so why would he do that. Fuck you Matrix and fuck your partners in crime Acacia.
And yes I just said something about matrix, you gonna sue me for my opinion, go right ahead, now I see why your working so closely with Acacia, because your both law suit happy. I will dance in the streets the day Matrix content goes out of business for making the stupidest business decision ever.
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No! Not again!!Originally posted by WicKed NinJas
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Hmm that statement wasnt too good. Why use terms like Go Fuck Youself and Payback is a bitch on wheels? Are those legal terms that would look good in court?
BTW wouldnt it be libel if its whats written down on here?
As someone else suggested in another thread I think that a cease & desist letter from Matrix would *seriously* help them save some face, whereas if they dont......
Irrespective of whether Matrix gave them access to their database or not, mud sticks and people can draw their own conclusions.Comment
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Now Im not sure who danced in the streets before but this will be a first for me. I reserve dancing for special occasions...lolOriginally posted by mrthumbs
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Hi Everyone,
Wow this is really interesting stuff and I must say it does look rather clear cut to be honest. From what Jay posted on NP I would have to believe you 100%, with this other proof that's up here on GFY well in my opinion that's just the icing on the cake. I doubt that any webmaster will ever consider purchasing content again from Matrix now or in the future. It's a shame that this has to happen in a way as their content is of the highest quality but....again we are a community and all value the help we give each other. Shopping fellow webmasters has got to be one of the worst offences known to this industry. Matrix have a share of the market where contents concerned but......not for long, looks like these will be another content company to bite the dust, it's totally unexpected but well deserved if true and I am sure your all agree it does certainly look that way.
I am happy that I have always picked content from http://www.focusadult.com over Matrix the only reason was value for money. At least anyone looking for content of this high quality now has a much better reason to go elsewhere focus has got to be the new Matrix on the block now.
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Am I missing something, or did Matrix's comment disappear from this thread, except as quoted by Rich?
Anyway, it seems to me that Matrix is suggesting Rich changed his Matrix account info to match the address to which Acacia mailed the letter. If that's true, then apparently Matrix has access to their database, and it seems to me they could avoid damage to their own reputation, and trash Rich's reputation, by showing the log of the changes Rich made. I'm suspicious of Matrix just from this posting:First of all I would like to apologize for not being available. We were forced to evacuate our office due to the fires in California. First of all lil2rich4u2, I'll let your reputation back your accusations. We track all actions by user on the site. Why did you change info? I remember talking to you before. Oh yeah, it was because I caught you infringing my content! I could have shut you down, but instead gave you a warning. This will be my final post and statement on this board. We were not hacked. We did not give our list over. We have gone over every line of our logs. We have never sold our data and never will. The only other entity that has access to our database is our DMCA department. It will come out in discovery, and I truly believe that the people slandering my company will do so no matter how I try to convince them of the truth. At that time, and it will come, I have several cases of slander and defamation to file on all you people with "100%" proof. Payback is a bitch on wheels! The funny thing is the few people have called to prove themselves could not do so. Not one of my accusers on this board called. I don't believe Acaicia would use a list not obtained through proper channels, they would have too much to loose. Just like we would have to much to loose if we gave it over. So everyone who has supported us thank you very much, which includes the people fighting the fight and the IMPA. To my accusers GO FUCK YOURSELF. Again if you think you have real proof that can stand up in court I'm always available via the phone.
1) They aren't refuting this in a convincing manner by posting their logs, when it would be pretty easy, and to their great benefit...in my opinion.
2) Their "This will be my final post and statement on this board" seems like the sort of thing that a person would do if they were in serious denial or were tied up in a lie...in my opinion.
3) Their insistance for proof that will stand up in court, ignoring the preponderance of evidence already offered. They just seem too defensive about this...in my opinion. It could be weird coincidences and forged documents from liars that are being posted, but taking the body of evidence as a whole, and assuming most people are being honest, I think a compelling case could be made in court. Matrix seems to want some smoking gun, like a notarized letter from Acacia asserting "We stole Matrix's contact database. Warm regards, Acacia." It isn't going to happen. The best proof webmasters can offer is what they've already offered - peculiar/unique contact info that matches both Acacia's and Matrix's database.
One more trivial thing, in another thread someone thought Matrix's database wasn't used, because they spelled their company name with an "LLC", but Acacia's letter used "Llc." Based on Rich's posting, it looks like Acacia is running addresses through a "capitalize each first letter and lowercase the others," filter among other things. Maybe more Acacia letter recipients could confirm that.Comment
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is this the most interesting thread ever started by lil2rich?
id say so
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Originally posted by KRL
Yeh, wonderful now people who got their personal data devulged are being threatened with slander lawsuits for posting about it here.
Nice!
I thought its slander if its not the truth.Comment
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I think this is key here. They can accuse LilRich of changing details but what about all the other webmasters/webmistresses. And from what jaYMan says here this is not an old list it would appear from his situation that Acacia is getting frequent updates from the Matrix database. A few test sign ups may easily confirm this. Of course unless they were 100% clueless they may pull the plug on this little scheme now as the evidence builds up.Originally posted by jaYMan
I got the same proof too, but still getting settled in and havent scanned it.
Here's the kicker though... I got the account a few days before I left for Vancouver, and my Acacia letter was waiting for me when I got home.
This isn't an old db list folks... Acacia is getting CC'd on new Matrix accounts.
SUCK ME MATRIX!!!!
Either way its a bad situation. The Matrix response was nothing short of a cornered rats desparate attempt to survive. All the threats. Seriously ignorant.Living in Virtual Reality
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Damn what a bunch of stupid fucksOriginally posted by jaYMan
here's mine...
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It's not slander no matter what. Since it's in print, it's called libel.Originally posted by tony404
I thought its slander if its not the truth.Comment
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