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  • MattO
    The O is for Oohhh
    • Feb 2003
    • 10861
    #201
    The domain that's listed in my letter is one that I don't even own. A friend of mine still owns the domain. He hasn't gotten a letter.

    Obviously they didn't get the info from WHOIS.

    And as I have stated in another thread, there's a typo consistent with my Matrix info on the letter.

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      • oldnewbie
        Confirmed User
        • Jul 2003
        • 394
        #202
        Originally posted by JFPdude
        ...and he had to evacuate where he was due to the fire in his neighborhood.
        Ah. It helps to know that.

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          • rayzor
            Confirmed User
            • Dec 2002
            • 245
            #203
            i just got my letter today (postmarked 10/21) and want to throw my 2 cents in... i don't think it was matrix because of the way the name on the letter was formatted... i used my company name, xyz co, Llc... now i never purchased from maxtrix but i have signed up to view their content. i checked the account info when i logged into matrix and my company name was formatted correctly... xyz co, LLC (llc in all caps).... now the ONLY company i know that formats my company name with Llc is ccbill.. i know everyone must have signed up with ccbill before in their life.. can anyone verify their name formatting with ccbill?
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              • KRL
                Entrepreneur
                • Oct 2002
                • 31429
                #204
                Why is everyone still saying they "think" its Matrix?

                We've got at least 100+ webmasters easy with a unique address that the letters were addressed to that were only on file in Matrix's database.

                It WAS Matrix.
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                  • oracle
                    Registered User
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 9
                    #205
                    Originally posted by JFPdude
                    Actually in Normans defense he was contacting people via the phone and ICQ today (late today) and he had to evacuate where he was due to the fire in his neighborhood.
                    ironic... lier lier your pants on fire...

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                      • JSA Matt
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 5464
                        #206
                        Originally posted by rayzor
                        i just got my letter today (postmarked 10/21) and want to throw my 2 cents in... i don't think it was matrix because of the way the name on the letter was formatted... i used my company name, xyz co, Llc... now i never purchased from maxtrix but i have signed up to view their content. i checked the account info when i logged into matrix and my company name was formatted correctly... xyz co, LLC (llc in all caps).... now the ONLY company i know that formats my company name with Llc is ccbill.. i know everyone must have signed up with ccbill before in their life.. can anyone verify their name formatting with ccbill?
                        They automatically changed the case of the company name.. well in my case anyways. The company name I have on file with Matrix is JSA (all caps), the letter came as Jsa. Also note that I never use a company name when I signup for anything. This was a work related account and it's one of a kind.

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                          • JFPdude
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jan 2002
                            • 4027
                            #207
                            Originally posted by oracle


                            ironic... lier lier your pants on fire...

                            NB@Matrix 10/27/20 8:19 PM We had to evacuate our office because of the
                            fire. Can you please call me tomorrow. I
                            just hope our office is still there

                            JFPDude 10/27/20 8:20 PM absolutely

                            NB@Matrix 10/27/20 8:20 PM cool! I'm really pissed about this!

                            JFPDude 10/27/20 8:20 PM I hope everything goes good for you ... and I
                            hope we get resolution to this because your
                            content works best for some of my design
                            clients

                            NB@Matrix 10/27/20 8:22 PM If it is our list we will cut their balls off.
                            Their ball are in their wallet!

                            JFPDude 10/27/20 8:22 PM :-D

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                              • DickShoke
                                Confirmed User
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 1236
                                #208
                                Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                here's my 2 cents

                                you know what. since matrix SOLD EVERYONE OUT and settled, this would probally be the ONE AND ONLY thing I could possibly see on their favor to prove they have ANY integirity left.

                                SUE ACACIA.
                                I would like to see proof of the lawsuit.

                                we seem to have several people posting that they have proof that matrix leaked their name, and matrix wants us to believe the list was stolen. If that's true then Acacia is involved in some illegial copportate spying and theft. Thus a lawsuit against acacia - without this then everything matrix has said is bullshit and we can pretty much believe and be GUARENTEED that matrix gave acacia the list.

                                i think that's a MORE THAN FAIR way to let them clear their name.

                                without a lawsuit filed against acacia ASAP from matrix regarding THEFT of their list then I and pretty much noone else here with a brain will EVER believe a word matrix ever says again.
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                                  • Mr.Fiction
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Feb 2002
                                    • 9484
                                    #209
                                    Originally posted by KRL
                                    Why is everyone still saying they "think" its Matrix?

                                    We've got at least 100+ webmasters easy with a unique address that the letters were addressed to that were only on file in Matrix's database.

                                    It WAS Matrix.
                                    Don't be lazy, protect free speech: ACLU | Free Speech Coalition | EFF | IMPA

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                                      • funkmaster
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Sep 2001
                                        • 7938
                                        #210
                                        Originally posted by KRL
                                        Why is everyone still saying they "think" its Matrix?

                                        We've got at least 100+ webmasters easy with a unique address that the letters were addressed to that were only on file in Matrix's database.

                                        It WAS Matrix.
                                        ... reading all these pages I come to the same conclusion, desperate way to minimise the damage that has been done ... but hey, buy some more ACTG ... I have this feeling that more folks will settle soon !!

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                                          • SleazyDream
                                            I'm here for SPORT
                                            • Jul 2001
                                            • 41470
                                            #211
                                            Originally posted by funkmaster


                                            .....desperate way to minimise the damage that has been done ...
                                            what I love about GFY is damage controll here is like using gasoline to put out a forest fire.
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                                              • sexeducation
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • Jun 2003
                                                • 7315
                                                #212
                                                OH ...
                                                and did you hear that I am "murderer" ...
                                                This is just a witch hunt until NLB/Matrix replies ...

                                                The truth is (IMO) all those who have signed contracts and "deals" with Acacia have to submit information that can be cross referenced wtih other "licensees" ...

                                                I believe it's Schedule "B" that you have to fill out.

                                                Come on ... we all know how to cross reference dbases ...

                                                Why are you nailing matrix when it's ALL THOSE WHO HAVE SIGNED providing the information ...

                                                wake up ...

                                                Just like Acacia picked on the "adult industry" they picked on a particular companies "monthly report" ... Matrix just happens to be the first ... others will follow ...

                                                wake up and donate to IMPAI.org or FightThisPatent.com ...
                                                wake up ...

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                                                  • jason420
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Sep 2003
                                                    • 137
                                                    #213
                                                    Norman you opened your big fuking mouth, said you would repsond on Monday. FUCK THE FIRES. You could have said

                                                    Hey everyone, we're still tryng to get to the bottom of this. Please be patient with us and we'll have answers soon.


                                                    But no.


                                                    A simple little statement and you couldn't even do it. By not saying something, YOU'RE SAYING SOMETHNG.

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                                                      • scorpy
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Sep 2002
                                                        • 457
                                                        #214
                                                        Originally posted by KRL
                                                        Why is everyone still saying they "think" its Matrix?

                                                        We've got at least 100+ webmasters easy with a unique address that the letters were addressed to that were only on file in Matrix's database.

                                                        It WAS Matrix.
                                                        I agree.

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                                                          • Ken
                                                            Make more with us.
                                                            • Sep 2001
                                                            • 562
                                                            #215
                                                            Originally posted by sexeducation
                                                            OH ...
                                                            and did you hear that I am "murderer" ...
                                                            This is just a witch hunt until NLB/Matrix replies ...

                                                            The truth is (IMO) all those who have signed contracts and "deals" with Acacia have to submit information that can be cross referenced wtih other "licensees" ...

                                                            I believe it's Schedule "B" that you have to fill out.

                                                            Come on ... we all know how to cross reference dbases ...

                                                            Why are you nailing matrix when it's ALL THOSE WHO HAVE SIGNED providing the information ...

                                                            wake up ...

                                                            Just like Acacia picked on the "adult industry" they picked on a particular companies "monthly report" ... Matrix just happens to be the first ... others will follow ...

                                                            wake up and donate to IMPAI.org or FightThisPatent.com ...
                                                            wake up ...
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                                                            sexeducation,

                                                            I've said it before and I'll say it again. Your statement above is 100% false. I can't speak for everyone as I have not seen copies of other executed licenses, but I do know what we signed.

                                                            The license that Hustler and Vivid signed did not ask for affiliate information, nor are we required to provide affiliate information at any time for sales reporting or for any other reason.

                                                            Why would they need affiliate information to check sales information? They charge on gross sales, so all they need are general sales reports and/or tax returns.

                                                            Acacia clearly got a webmaster list from somewhere, but it was not something that was required from all licensees. At least it wasn't required from us.

                                                            This doesn't address the issue of how webmaster information DID get out, but we really don't need more mis-information floating around to add to the confusion and speculation.

                                                            My point here is that just because a sponsor settled does NOT mean they are giving up affiliate information. My guess is that the majority of companies who settled were not required or asked for affiliate info.
                                                            Ken


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                                                              • crockett
                                                                in a van by the river
                                                                • May 2003
                                                                • 76818
                                                                #216
                                                                Originally posted by oracle


                                                                ironic... lier lier your pants on fire...
                                                                oh man I got a laugh out of this thred after all but that's soo wrong..


                                                                I do know 100% that my info came from Matrix there is no if's about it.. Now the only question is was it given up willingly or not .. and what will Matrix's response be.
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                                                                  • crockett
                                                                    in a van by the river
                                                                    • May 2003
                                                                    • 76818
                                                                    #217
                                                                    just something to think about for those that sign up and those that are thinking of it.


                                                                    Acacia may take 2% of your profits, but where did the 98% of what you have left come from? Don't bite the hand that feeds you.
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                                                                      • corvette
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Oct 2001
                                                                        • 7880
                                                                        #218
                                                                        Originally posted by rayzor
                                                                        now the ONLY company i know that formats my company name with Llc is ccbill.. i know everyone must have signed up with ccbill before in their life.. can anyone verify their name formatting with ccbill?
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                                                                          • brand0n
                                                                            been very busy
                                                                            • Nov 2002
                                                                            • 26983
                                                                            #219
                                                                            this sucks balls, matrix has the best content
                                                                            want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

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                                                                              • homegrownmof
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                                • 408
                                                                                #220
                                                                                Originally posted by Ken

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                                                                                The license that Hustler and Vivid signed did not ask for affiliate information, nor are we required to provide affiliate information at any time for sales reporting or for any other reason.

                                                                                Why would they need affiliate information to check sales information? They charge on gross sales, so all they need are general sales reports and/or tax returns.

                                                                                Why would Acacia just accept a "general sales report"?

                                                                                I believe they have an audit provision in their agreement. That pretty much says they can crawl up your ass if they want to.

                                                                                I think it's pretty naive to think they'll just say "Ok people, time for your general sales reports! Fax 'em in!"

                                                                                As for tax returns, what if one has offshore companies that don't necessarily pay US taxes?

                                                                                I hope you have it in writing that Acacia hereby agrees to accept whatever sales report you give them.

                                                                                In my opinion they seem to have an ability to say one thing and do another.
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                                                                                  • Ken
                                                                                    Make more with us.
                                                                                    • Sep 2001
                                                                                    • 562
                                                                                    #221
                                                                                    Originally posted by homegrownmof



                                                                                    Why would Acacia just accept a "general sales report"?

                                                                                    I believe they have an audit provision in their agreement. That pretty much says they can crawl up your ass if they want to.

                                                                                    I think it's pretty naive to think they'll just say "Ok people, time for your general sales reports! Fax 'em in!"

                                                                                    As for tax returns, what if one has offshore companies that don't necessarily pay US taxes?

                                                                                    I hope you have it in writing that Acacia hereby agrees to accept whatever sales report you give them.

                                                                                    In my opinion they seem to have an ability to say one thing and do another.
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                                                                                    First of all, I'm not sure which agreement you're talking about, but I'm pretty sure it's not the one we signed I doubt any two Acacia agreements are worded exactly the same.

                                                                                    All of our corps are US based and do file US tax returns. In fact, Hustler has regular audits done by a big 5 accounting firm and has for a long time. I think that would more than get the job done

                                                                                    Also, I really don't understand how anyone would use affiliate information to tie into sales reports? We do MAJOR business that does not come from affiliates so affiliate sales data would only give them a part of the equation anyway. I would say that most major programs are in a similar situation.

                                                                                    I can't speak for others, but we are very careful with audit rights in ANY agreement we sign and Acacia will not be looking at our affiliate info for the purpose of an audit or for any other reason.

                                                                                    What you're saying might apply to others (I don't know), but it doesn't apply to us for all of the reasons I stated above.
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                                                                                      • Ken
                                                                                        Make more with us.
                                                                                        • Sep 2001
                                                                                        • 562
                                                                                        #222
                                                                                        I think it's pretty naive to think they'll just say "Ok people, time for your general sales reports! Fax 'em in!"
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                                                                                        Based on that same logic, if they did ask for affiliate data, would they just let us fax ithose reports in?

                                                                                        At some point, they have to believe that the data being provided is true. For us, Tax Returns will more than prove that. They won't need any further detail to collect their fees.

                                                                                        I just think there is enough fear and confusion out there right now and I'm trying to make a point that just because a sponsor or content provider settles does not automatically mean they are required to give up affiliate info, etc.
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                                                                                          • XSV
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Sep 2001
                                                                                            • 1214
                                                                                            #223
                                                                                            If you were Acacia would you go after the webmaster/affiliate list from one of the big sponsors or would you go after the webmaster list from one of the top content providers that sells primarily to paysite owners that make a lot more money as a group?

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                                                                                              • CamJack
                                                                                                Old School Webmaster
                                                                                                • Sep 2003
                                                                                                • 1334
                                                                                                #224
                                                                                                Karma is a bitch isn't it Norman?
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                                                                                                  • Dravyk
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                                                                    • 1202
                                                                                                    #225
                                                                                                    Matrix's silence is deafening.
                                                                                                    All Of 'Em

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                                                                                                      • nuclei
                                                                                                        old school fart
                                                                                                        • May 2001
                                                                                                        • 1015
                                                                                                        #226
                                                                                                        NLB remember me calling you guys to get my womans account approved for her very first adult site, a dating site? lets just say that our packet came to her. She is not signed up under her married name ANYWHERE but you guys. and only with you because she used yer content to make her site design mate.
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                                                                                                          • Mr.Fiction
                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                            • Feb 2002
                                                                                                            • 9484
                                                                                                            #227
                                                                                                            Originally posted by crockett

                                                                                                            Acacia may take 2% of your profits
                                                                                                            It's been posted that they want 2% of your entire income, not profits. For some companies, that might be more than 100% of their profits.
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                                                                                                              • crockett
                                                                                                                in a van by the river
                                                                                                                • May 2003
                                                                                                                • 76818
                                                                                                                #228
                                                                                                                Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


                                                                                                                It's been posted that they want 2% of your entire income, not profits. For some companies, that might be more than 100% of their profits.
                                                                                                                yea mybad I know that too ok edit::


                                                                                                                2% of your gross income



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                                                                                                                  • BlueDesignStudios
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                                                                                                                    • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                    • 9492
                                                                                                                    #229
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by crockett


                                                                                                                    yea mybad I know that too ok edit::


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                                                                                                                      • SureFire
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                                                                                                                        • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                        • 4398
                                                                                                                        #230
                                                                                                                        Bump!

                                                                                                                        I am aware of the fires in area and I hope all is well, but ?

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                                                                                                                          • siccmade
                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                            • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                            • 1641
                                                                                                                            #231
                                                                                                                            I'm sure Norman has a computer at home he can reply with, no?
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                                                                                                                              • Giorgio_Xo
                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                • 4263
                                                                                                                                #232
                                                                                                                                If it is any help, I signed up fo access at Matrix on 09-25-2003. I did not buy anything. If Acacia aquired the list from Matrix, it occurred after that date. I am still of the belief that Acacia pooled names from several lists.
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                                                                                                                                  • SureFire
                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                    • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                    • 4398
                                                                                                                                    #233
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
                                                                                                                                    If it is any help, I signed up fo access at Matrix on 09-25-2003. I did not buy anything. If Acacia aquired the list from Matrix, it occurred after that date. I am still of the belief that Acacia pooled names from several lists.
                                                                                                                                    It seems so, but why cant MC post a reassuring post ?

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                                                                                                                                      • jaYMan
                                                                                                                                        peace&profit,
                                                                                                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                        • 4885
                                                                                                                                        #234
                                                                                                                                        Its not an old list... its a new one. Got me a brand new Matrix account before I left for Vancovuer. Mispelled our company name on accident. Came home from Vancouver, got a letter adressed to a mispelled company name.

                                                                                                                                        All the proof I need. Fuck Matrix.

                                                                                                                                        Seems Meatman may be poking into something on the Acacia front...
                                                                                                                                        http://www.netpond.com/threaded/show...&threadid=7141
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                                                                                                                                          • lil2rich4u2
                                                                                                                                            ICQ: 175171926
                                                                                                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                            • 11046
                                                                                                                                            #235
                                                                                                                                            http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=191211

                                                                                                                                            SOLID proof .... FUCK matrixcontent!!!
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                                                                                                                                              • el_greco
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                                                                                                                                                • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                                • 352
                                                                                                                                                #236
                                                                                                                                                It's been a while, but I'll add my . I know that the acacia assholes got my info from a matrix database because being new in the industry, the only movies I've ever bought/licensed were through MC.

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                                                                                                                                                  • grumpy
                                                                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                    • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                    • 9870
                                                                                                                                                    #237
                                                                                                                                                    where is the reply from nlb. Its wednesday now and still nothing.
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                                                                                                                                                      • KaLi
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                                                                                                                                                        • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                                        • 4371
                                                                                                                                                        #238
                                                                                                                                                        Its been proved imo

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                                                                                                                                                          • NLB
                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                            • May 2002
                                                                                                                                                            • 225
                                                                                                                                                            #239
                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
                                                                                                                                                            http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=191211

                                                                                                                                                            SOLID proof .... FUCK matrixcontent!!!
                                                                                                                                                            First of all I would like to apologize for not being available. We were forced to evacuate our office due to the fires in California. First of all lil2rich4u2, I'll let your reputation back your accusations. We track all actions by user on the site. Why did you change info? I remember talking to you before. Oh yeah, it was because I caught you infringing my content! I could have shut you down, but instead gave you a warning. This will be my final post and statement on this board. We were not hacked. We did not give our list over. We have gone over every line of our logs. We have never sold our data and never will. The only other entity that has access to our database is our DMCA department. It will come out in discovery, and I truly believe that the people slandering my company will do so no matter how I try to convince them of the truth. At that time, and it will come, I have several cases of slander and defamation to file on all you people with "100%" proof. Payback is a bitch on wheels! The funny thing is the few people have called to prove themselves could not do so. Not one of my accusers on this board called. I don't believe Acaicia would use a list not obtained through proper channels, they would have too much to loose. Just like we would have to much to loose if we gave it over. So everyone who has supported us thank you very much, which includes the people fighting the fight and the IMPA. To my accusers GO FUCK YOURSELF. Again if you think you have real proof that can stand up in court I'm always available via the phone.
                                                                                                                                                            Thanks,

                                                                                                                                                            Norman Bentley
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                                                                                                                                                              • [SJ]
                                                                                                                                                                Registered User
                                                                                                                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                                • 179
                                                                                                                                                                #240
                                                                                                                                                                Yup MC is the only place I used a Company name.. and it was on my letter.. They sold out...

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                                                                                                                                                                  • Holly
                                                                                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                                    • 10017
                                                                                                                                                                    #241

                                                                                                                                                                    This thread's about to get jiggy ]:-}}
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                                                                                                                                                                      • X37375787
                                                                                                                                                                        #242
                                                                                                                                                                        lil2rich yet got another kick in the balls. nice one. once scam artist, alway... ya know the drill.

                                                                                                                                                                        Whatever, let's face it. Matrix has the best content around, and therefore I will keep on buying from them.

                                                                                                                                                                        Acacia can lick ma balls.

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                                                                                                                                                                          • LadyMischief
                                                                                                                                                                            Orgasms N Such!
                                                                                                                                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                                                            • 18135
                                                                                                                                                                            #243
                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by NLB


                                                                                                                                                                            First of all I would like to apologize for not being available. We were forced to evacuate our office due to the fires in California. First of all lil2rich4u2, I'll let your reputation back your accusations. We track all actions by user on the site. Why did you change info? I remember talking to you before. Oh yeah, it was because I caught you infringing my content! I could have shut you down, but instead gave you a warning. This will be my final post and statement on this board. We were not hacked. We did not give our list over. We have gone over every line of our logs. We have never sold our data and never will. The only other entity that has access to our database is our DMCA department. It will come out in discovery, and I truly believe that the people slandering my company will do so no matter how I try to convince them of the truth. At that time, and it will come, I have several cases of slander and defamation to file on all you people with "100%" proof. Payback is a bitch on wheels! The funny thing is the few people have called to prove themselves could not do so. Not one of my accusers on this board called. I don't believe Acaicia would use a list not obtained through proper channels, they would have too much to loose. Just like we would have to much to loose if we gave it over. So everyone who has supported us thank you very much, which includes the people fighting the fight and the IMPA. To my accusers GO FUCK YOURSELF. Again if you think you have real proof that can stand up in court I'm always available via the phone.
                                                                                                                                                                            Glad to see you showed up Norm. I think you had a legitimate excuse to be absent.. those fires are very serious.

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                                                                                                                                                                              • KRL
                                                                                                                                                                                Entrepreneur
                                                                                                                                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                • 31429
                                                                                                                                                                                #244
                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by NLB


                                                                                                                                                                                First of all I would like to apologize for not being available. We were forced to evacuate our office due to the fires in California. First of all lil2rich4u2, I'll let your reputation back your accusations. We track all actions by user on the site. Why did you change info? I remember talking to you before. Oh yeah, it was because I caught you infringing my content! I could have shut you down, but instead gave you a warning. This will be my final post and statement on this board. We were not hacked. We did not give our list over. We have gone over every line of our logs. We have never sold our data and never will. The only other entity that has access to our database is our DMCA department. It will come out in discovery, and I truly believe that the people slandering my company will do so no matter how I try to convince them of the truth. At that time, and it will come, I have several cases of slander and defamation to file on all you people with "100%" proof. Payback is a bitch on wheels! The funny thing is the few people have called to prove themselves could not do so. Not one of my accusers on this board called. I don't believe Acaicia would use a list not obtained through proper channels, they would have too much to loose. Just like we would have to much to loose if we gave it over. So everyone who has supported us thank you very much, which includes the people fighting the fight and the IMPA. To my accusers GO FUCK YOURSELF. Again if you think you have real proof that can stand up in court I'm always available via the phone.

                                                                                                                                                                                Norm,

                                                                                                                                                                                In consideration of how everyone feels right now about Acacia and all the posts linking the recent letters to Matrix, however they were obtained, this post you just made throwing such intense attitude at everyone here who are pissed off as hell since many of them are being wrongfully accused of infringing on bullshit when they've done nothing at all, is only going to create more animosity towards your company.

                                                                                                                                                                                If I were you I would take a way different approach on this matter and try to make peace with the people who have done business with you and not war.

                                                                                                                                                                                Just my 2 cents.
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • lil2rich4u2
                                                                                                                                                                                    ICQ: 175171926
                                                                                                                                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 11046
                                                                                                                                                                                    #245
                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by NLB


                                                                                                                                                                                    First of all I would like to apologize for not being available. We were forced to evacuate our office due to the fires in California. First of all lil2rich4u2, I'll let your reputation back your accusations. We track all actions by user on the site. Why did you change info? I remember talking to you before. Oh yeah, it was because I caught you infringing my content! I could have shut you down, but instead gave you a warning. This will be my final post and statement on this board. We were not hacked. We did not give our list over. We have gone over every line of our logs. We have never sold our data and never will. The only other entity that has access to our database is our DMCA department. It will come out in discovery, and I truly believe that the people slandering my company will do so no matter how I try to convince them of the truth. At that time, and it will come, I have several cases of slander and defamation to file on all you people with "100%" proof. Payback is a bitch on wheels! The funny thing is the few people have called to prove themselves could not do so. Not one of my accusers on this board called. I don't believe Acaicia would use a list not obtained through proper channels, they would have too much to loose. Just like we would have to much to loose if we gave it over. So everyone who has supported us thank you very much, which includes the people fighting the fight and the IMPA. To my accusers GO FUCK YOURSELF. Again if you think you have real proof that can stand up in court I'm always available via the phone.
                                                                                                                                                                                    what the fuck?

                                                                                                                                                                                    post proof or shut your fucking trap asshole ... making up shit lies about me or anyone else will not save your dumbass now.

                                                                                                                                                                                    my rep? how about the hundreds of others posting about you?

                                                                                                                                                                                    i didnt post an accusation, i posted PROOF ... and i NEVER changed my information ... EVER

                                                                                                                                                                                    show proof like i have, or shut the fuck up

                                                                                                                                                                                    i have NEVER violated you or your content, you are making shit up.
                                                                                                                                                                                    HEY!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • X37375787
                                                                                                                                                                                        #246
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by NLB


                                                                                                                                                                                        It will come out in discovery, and I truly believe that the people slandering my company will do so no matter how I try to convince them of the truth. At that time, and it will come, I have several cases of slander and defamation to file on all you people with "100%" proof. Payback is a bitch on wheels!

                                                                                                                                                                                        That is just plain retarded. Yeah, feed more fuel into the fire, piss off more of your customers until you can close down your content store.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          • jaYMan
                                                                                                                                                                                            peace&profit,
                                                                                                                                                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 4885
                                                                                                                                                                                            #247
                                                                                                                                                                                            I have several cases of slander and defamation to file on all you people with "100%" proof. Payback is a bitch on wheels!


                                                                                                                                                                                            Dude, 100% proof in my mind that that info came from your site.

                                                                                                                                                                                            Whether its you, your host, your staff, don't care... it came from your end.

                                                                                                                                                                                            Sue me.


                                                                                                                                                                                            It's my personal opinion that anyone that would make money off of webmasters then do this to them deserves everything they get.
                                                                                                                                                                                            peace&profit,
                                                                                                                                                                                            jaYMan

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Headless
                                                                                                                                                                                                Registered User
                                                                                                                                                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 26727
                                                                                                                                                                                                #248
                                                                                                                                                                                                Its gettin hot in here........ so take off all your cloths...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Mr.Fiction
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • 9484
                                                                                                                                                                                                    #249
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by NLB


                                                                                                                                                                                                    First of all I would like to apologize for not being available. We were forced to evacuate our office due to the fires in California. First of all lil2rich4u2, I'll let your reputation back your accusations. We track all actions by user on the site. Why did you change info? I remember talking to you before. Oh yeah, it was because I caught you infringing my content! I could have shut you down, but instead gave you a warning. This will be my final post and statement on this board. We were not hacked. We did not give our list over. We have gone over every line of our logs. We have never sold our data and never will. The only other entity that has access to our database is our DMCA department. It will come out in discovery, and I truly believe that the people slandering my company will do so no matter how I try to convince them of the truth. At that time, and it will come, I have several cases of slander and defamation to file on all you people with "100%" proof. Payback is a bitch on wheels! The funny thing is the few people have called to prove themselves could not do so. Not one of my accusers on this board called. I don't believe Acaicia would use a list not obtained through proper channels, they would have too much to loose. Just like we would have to much to loose if we gave it over. So everyone who has supported us thank you very much, which includes the people fighting the fight and the IMPA. To my accusers GO FUCK YOURSELF. Again if you think you have real proof that can stand up in court I'm always available via the phone.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    I have no idea if your database was used, but by your post it looks like you don't care what your own customers think or how your company might have damaged their business.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    These are not just people attacking you, these are your customers. Do you understand that?

                                                                                                                                                                                                    If your database was stolen, you may have cost people hundreds of thousands of dollars and you come here and slam them? Some of these people may go out of business because of the possible actions of someone at your company. Do you even care?

                                                                                                                                                                                                    You should be doing nothing less than compiling information from your customers and filing a lawsuit against Acacia. Anything less than that and you're just making excuses.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Instead of threatening to sue Acacia, you are threatening to sue your own customers!

                                                                                                                                                                                                    I almost never make serious posts on this board, but this is one of the most fucked up things I've seen here.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Instead of trying to solve a problem, you attack your own customers.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Unbelievable fuck up.
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Don't be lazy, protect free speech: ACLU | Free Speech Coalition | EFF | IMPA

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • KRL
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Entrepreneur
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • 31429
                                                                                                                                                                                                        #250
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Just a note Norm.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Printed falsehoods are libel not slander. However the information has to be false if you want to start suing people here for libel. The overwhelming evidence thus far presented would lead one to conclusively believe the source is indeed your company. No one knows positively how our personal info was acquired by Acacia via this alleged Matrix connection. That remains a mystery.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        So is there anything you can show everyone that will indicate it came from someone else besides your company?
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