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10-27-2003, 10:18 AM

probably won't do much, but why not call ralph's or albertsons, let them know you will be shopping there if they let their employees go back to work. the first one to let their people back to work will be where i shop from here on out.

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remember, their employees aren't on strike - the stores locked them out from work.

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10-27-2003, 10:19 AM

Locked out for what?

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10-27-2003, 10:22 AM

because the stores are afraid they might strike

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10-27-2003, 10:25 AM

Calling the store won't help for shit. I talked to the manager and the strikers when I went to Albertsons two weeks ago. The dispute isn't with the employees and the store really, it's with the whole union and their health care packages.

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10-27-2003, 10:26 AM

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10-27-2003, 10:27 AM

Originally posted by clubsexy
Calling the store won't help for shit. I talked to the manager and the strikers when I went to Albertsons two weeks ago. The dispute isn't with the employees and the store really, it's with the whole union and their health care packages.

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10-27-2003, 10:28 AM

clubsexy, the union said they'd only strike at one store chain - vons. ralphs and albertsons locked their employees out just in case... see my link above.

anyway, ralphs and albertsons management - not store managers - could have those people back at work if they chose. according to what i have read, this is really hurting our economy nationwide :-(

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10-27-2003, 10:29 AM

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10-27-2003, 10:29 AM

Fuck the unions. They had their time and place, but those days are largely over. Who thinks companies should be forced to pay some middle-aged lady who moves like molasses $25/hour plus full benefits? Shop at Trader Joes, Costco, or at least Stater Bros (who aren't having labor disputes).

I have seen strikers yell at working mothers trying to buy milk for their kids. Fuck'em.

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10-27-2003, 10:30 AM

the food stores being closed for awhile is a good thing.

you Californians are too fat anyway.

it was those thunder thighs rubbing together that started all those fires!
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10-27-2003, 10:30 AM

Originally posted by hottoddy
Fuck the unions. They had their time and place, but those days are largely over. Who thinks companies should be forced to pay some middle-aged lady who moves like molasses $25/hour plus full benefits? Shop at Trader Joes, Costco, or at least Stater Bros (who aren't having labor disputes).

I have seen strikers yell at working mothers trying to buy milk for their kids. Fuck'em.

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10-27-2003, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by basschick
clubsexy, the union said they'd only strike at one store chain - vons. ralphs and albertsons locked their employees out just in case... see my link above.

anyway, ralphs and albertsons management - not store managers - could have those people back at work if they chose. according to what i have read, this is really hurting our economy nationwide :-(

Nationwide? I don't think so. You Californians think that if something affects you, the rest of the world must be feeling your pain as well. The truth is that nobody outside of California really cares.
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10-27-2003, 10:55 AM

would any of you scab out and work there for 20 an hr?
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10-27-2003, 10:56 AM

Grocery checkers are lucky to be paid as much as they are. $17/hour for unskilled labor?

There was a time when these people needed to have the ability to type fast on those 10-key cash registers. But now all they do is scan merchandise. A retarded monkey could do that job.

They don't even need to do any customer service. When was the last time you couldn't find something at the grocery store and a helpful employee asked if you needed assistance? Well, it happened to me once: during the first week of the strike, a "scab" asked me if I needed help immediately upon me entering the store.

I'm staying with Ralphs. They offer double coupons, they print out $5 off coupons every time I shop there, and last week they were giving away free eggs. They also were selling 30 packs of beer for $9.99.
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10-27-2003, 11:36 AM

I've been shopping at gelson's.. but I don't think the strikers will win, they are too easily replaceable...

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10-27-2003, 12:53 PM

I got a sheet from Albertsons that showed how much they make on average and its about $60k a year. This is more then alot of people earn here that work a real job with a college degree.

Fuck um, I tell the people in the store everytime I shop that they should just fire them all and keep you guys.

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10-27-2003, 12:56 PM

The cashiers there make $17/hour?

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10-27-2003, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by 4Pics
I got a sheet from Albertsons that showed how much they make on average and its about $60k a year. This is more then alot of people earn here that work a real job with a college degree.

Fuck um, I tell the people in the store everytime I shop that they should just fire them all and keep you guys.

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Yeah, they make way more than $17/hour like posted above. Maybe that's a starting cashier's salary. They also earn that average $60K working a max of 35 hours a week - anything more is overtime. You can make just as much, and more at non-union grocery stores, but you have to bust your ass and prove yourself. Union grocery is like socialism, there's no reward for doing a better job than your co-workers.

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10-27-2003, 12:59 PM

Are you guy serious? Cashiers making $50k/year and more?

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10-27-2003, 01:01 PM

Stores in this part of CA are not under the unions thumb. Still pay competitive wages and well who friggen cares. Hell the albertsons up here closed awhile ago. Could not compete with the other stores on a quality level.

I understand how unions work, father was in one for a long time, same with other relatives ect. Truth is they caused more harm than good in todays times. The fee's were insane, the compensation for walk outs, strikes, ect. would make most people homeless in a month and they could care less. Not to mention the union never wants to cut its own costs.

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10-27-2003, 01:03 PM

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10-27-2003, 01:07 PM

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The cashiers there make $17/hour?

No way, not even store managers.

Where did you get this number? I have friends working as store clerks, $11-$12 at most.

Don't make up rumors.

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10-27-2003, 01:45 PM

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No way, not even store managers.

Where did you get this number? I have friends working as store clerks, $11-$12 at most.

Don't make up rumors.

I'm not making up shit. I'm asking because of what I read 2 posts above me.

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10-27-2003, 07:58 PM

the ones with massive years of experience - and i'm talking a lot more than 10 years - can make UP TO $17 something an hour. they start around $11 per hour.

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10-27-2003, 08:04 PM

Originally posted by hyatla

No way, not even store managers.

Where did you get this number? I have friends working as store clerks, $11-$12 at most.

Don't make up rumors.

Id suggest removing your head from your ass. 3 years there gets you 11-12hr. 15yrs gets 40-50k for scanning corn flakes all day.

Unions are just a form of organized crime. No business owner wants them. Nobody forces stupid poeple to have kids so why on gods earth should someone else have to pick up the tab to raise them.

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10-27-2003, 08:06 PM

Actually their on strike! My old roommate took a job at Ralphs while the workers are on strike and he's making $18/hr as a cashier! Not bad?

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10-27-2003, 08:07 PM

Originally posted by sumphatpimp
the food stores being closed for awhile is a good thing.

you Californians are too fat anyway.

it was those thunder thighs rubbing together that started all those fires!

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10-27-2003, 08:11 PM

Originally posted by basschick
the ones with massive years of experience - and i'm talking a lot more than 10 years - can make UP TO $17 something an hour. they start around $11 per hour.

Yeah, maybe at Wallmart and K-Mart. Shit, I was making like $12 as a stocker over 15 years ago at Ralphs. Union grocery cashiers make great money after they've been there for a few years.

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10-27-2003, 08:30 PM

UNDER THE NEW PLAN ? WITH NO MAJOR MEDICAL TRAGEDIES
A single worker, with PPO coverage, would see his or her out-of-pocket increase from $234 per year to $1,480 ? up $1,260!
That same worker, if he or she is in the HMO plan would see his or her costs increase from $54 to $1,200 per year ? up $1,146!

A worker who has a family and participates in the PPO plan would see out of picket costs go from approximately $640 to $4,095 ? an increase of $3,455 per year. That same worker whose family participates in the HMO plan see his or her out of pocket costs increase from $90 to $3,685 per year ? up $3,595!

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i'm sorry ... if my skills demanded i work at the grocery store, i'd be happy for insurance for 100 / mo. It sucks health care costs so much, but one trip to the doc for broken bone up will cost you more than 1200 .... to get full benifits for a job that doesn't take much skill is lucky (more to the point in so cal which has an abundance of labor). Some unions do good these days ... others only want more members and thoes members to re-bill ... sound like a familiar business model?

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If you don't like your job, you don't strike, you just go in every day and do it half-assed .... its the american way!
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10-27-2003, 08:42 PM

If you are over 25yrs old and you dont have a real job you should be fixed. That would solve this whole problem in the first place.

A reasonable person with good decision making skills does not have kids or attempt to raise a family until they are economically suited to do so.

Theres places out there that actually PAY these idiots to take birth control. That is one initiative that actually ends up saving everyone alot of money.

ohhhh.... Mr. Ralph Ive worked my heart out for you for the past 5 years of my pathetic life

STFU and get a new job if you dont like it. I shouldnt be forced to have to support your family. you're scanning groceries.....Bitch, and you didnt see me having kids when I was making 10 an hour.
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10-27-2003, 08:42 PM

Originally posted by XXcrowXX

UNDER THE NEW PLAN ? WITH NO MAJOR MEDICAL TRAGEDIES
A single worker, with PPO coverage, would see his or her out-of-pocket increase from $234 per year to $1,480 ? up $1,260!
That same worker, if he or she is in the HMO plan would see his or her costs increase from $54 to $1,200 per year ? up $1,146!

A worker who has a family and participates in the PPO plan would see out of picket costs go from approximately $640 to $4,095 ? an increase of $3,455 per year. That same worker whose family participates in the HMO plan see his or her out of pocket costs increase from $90 to $3,685 per year ? up $3,595!

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i'm sorry ... if my skills demanded i work at the grocery store, i'd be happy for insurance for 100 / mo. It sucks health care costs so much, but one trip to the doc for broken bone up will cost you more than 1200 .... to get full benifits for a job that doesn't take much skill is lucky (more to the point in so cal which has an abundance of labor). Some unions do good these days ... others only want more members and thoes members to re-bill ... sound like a familiar business model?

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Yeah seriously, fuck them. $100 a month for health insurance is NOTHING. I pay over $400 a month for Empire Blue Cross/Blue Shield for a single person plan, plus copays on visits and prescriptions. If any of these people are making $30-50k a year... hell, even $20k a year, they can more than afford that.

People that aren't self employeed and used to abusing their company's health insurance plans, have no idea how worse off they could be. I know people that take jobs, just FOR the great benefits. I'd love to get coverage for $100 bucks or so a month, regardless of how much I make... $100 a month for your health is $3.33 a day.

Strikers in this day in age don't seem to realize that they can be replaced and I think they SHOULD be. They go on strike for what THEY believe in, but fuck the customers they are effecting.

When I moved 3 years ago, Verizon was on strike for fuckin weeks and fucked up my entire business for a long time, because I couldn't even get anyone on the phone, much less get service. Strikers

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10-27-2003, 08:46 PM

Some of you people have no foresight, know what makes a economy strong? Middle class low to no skill folks making a decent living is the backbone of this country. When we were more of a industrial nation it was those people who got paid a good wage,that bought the homes,cars and caused the growth of the suburbs. They keep fucking those people and you lose your middle class and they are the spenders. This one of the reasons this economy is not really recovering, too many people out there that are the working poor. Also people with families making 40k a year cant afford $400 a month for insurance .

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10-27-2003, 09:05 PM

fuck economy and all that BS.
bottom line:
these people are over payed, and underworked. a high school kid WOULD check the grocerys for minimum wage all day long. but these idiots are getting $25-30 an hour and still complaining. fuck them and the horse they rode in on. i shop at stores where the employees got locked out with PRIDE! they dont deserve shit. fire all them fucks and hire someone who appreciates the job they are offered...

people should only make as much money as skill their job takes. i can understand electricians or something like that striking, they actually have a union of skilled workers. but come on people; these people work registers, bag grocerys, stock shevles and fetch shopping carts...

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10-27-2003, 09:22 PM

Originally posted by tony404
Some of you people have no foresight, know what makes a economy strong? Middle class low to no skill folks making a decent living is the backbone of this country. When we were more of a industrial nation it was those people who got paid a good wage,that bought the homes,cars and caused the growth of the suburbs. They keep fucking those people and you lose your middle class and they are the spenders. This one of the reasons this economy is not really recovering, too many people out there that are the working poor.

no...

an economy grows and expands when more higher paying jobs are created. Job creation is directly correlated with a companies profitability. Running a profitable business means being able to expand by hiring people that produce more than they are payed.

This union bullshit only drives up the cost of the neccessities in life. Food, healthcare, automobiles, etc. When you buy an american product produced at a unionized factory you are getting gouged as you are basically paying a MASSIVE tax so an over-payed and under-worked union employee can twiddle their cock all day, fully assured that he will always make enough to support his family. And if not, he can always go hug his little union teddy bear. Less jobs are created, everyone loses and the cost of doing business in the USA is raised.

Raising the cost of healthcare on these people is a business decision, an equation of profitability. If employess are costing more than they produce you should be able to fire their sorry asses and hire someone who can do the same job at a better rate with more productivity. More productivity at a cheaper rate = higher profits = more jobs created = a competive and robust job market = more $$$ for everyone.
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10-27-2003, 09:23 PM

I work at Vons so kiss my ass

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10-27-2003, 09:25 PM

Originally posted by Hawkeye
Grocery checkers are lucky to be paid as much as they are. $17/hour for unskilled labor?

There was a time when these people needed to have the ability to type fast on those 10-key cash registers. But now all they do is scan merchandise. A retarded monkey could do that job.

They don't even need to do any customer service. When was the last time you couldn't find something at the grocery store and a helpful employee asked if you needed assistance? Well, it happened to me once: during the first week of the strike, a "scab" asked me if I needed help immediately upon me entering the store.

I'm staying with Ralphs. They offer double coupons, they print out $5 off coupons every time I shop there, and last week they were giving away free eggs. They also were selling 30 packs of beer for $9.99.

You have no idea how hard it is to be a worker at Vons. Especially a checker. Dont go making statements you cannot prove or know nothing of.

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10-27-2003, 09:27 PM

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Yeah seriously, fuck them. $100 a month for health insurance is NOTHING. I pay over $400 a month for Empire Blue Cross/Blue Shield for a single person plan, plus copays on visits and prescriptions. If any of these people are making $30-50k a year... hell, even $20k a year, they can more than afford that.

People that aren't self employeed and used to abusing their company's health insurance plans, have no idea how worse off they could be. I know people that take jobs, just FOR the great benefits. I'd love to get coverage for $100 bucks or so a month, regardless of how much I make... $100 a month for your health is $3.33 a day.

Strikers in this day in age don't seem to realize that they can be replaced and I think they SHOULD be. They go on strike for what THEY believe in, but fuck the customers they are effecting.

When I moved 3 years ago, Verizon was on strike for fuckin weeks and fucked up my entire business for a long time, because I couldn't even get anyone on the phone, much less get service. Strikers

Scab and proud.

We are not only striking for healthcare. Thats just the main thing that our union is pointing out. Theres a bunch of things we are striking for... but imho I would rather have this retarted shit end.. You dont understand we cant go back to work, if we take one step into the store, we get a big ass fine.

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10-27-2003, 09:30 PM

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no...

an economy grows and expands when more higher paying jobs are created. Job creation is directly correlated with a companies profitability. Running a profitable business means being able to expand by hiring people that produce more than they are payed.

This union bullshit only drives up the cost of the neccessities in life. Food, healthcare, automobiles, etc. When you buy an american product produced at a unionized factory you are getting gouged as you are basically paying a MASSIVE tax so an over-payed and under-worked union employee can twiddle their cock all day, fully assured that he will always make enough to support his family. And if not, he can always go hug his little union teddy bear. Less jobs are created, everyone loses and the cost of doing business in the USA is raised.

Raising the cost of healthcare on these people is a business decision, an equation of profitability. If employess are costing more than they produce you should be able to fire their sorry asses and hire someone who can do the same job at a better rate with more productivity. More productivity at a cheaper rate = higher profits = more jobs created = a competive and robust job market = more $$$ for everyone.

That is the myth they want you to believe which is so untrue, 30 yrs ago CEO's made 25 x what the avg worker made , now they make 500x. Dont you read the papers there are no higher paying jobs, they are now hiring MBA's out of India for 10 k a year. They want you to believe if the business is profitable it helps the economy and it doesnt if they keep lowering wages and using people overseas. Economies grow from one thing when people spend money, if there less to spend money the economy cant grow.
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10-27-2003, 09:39 PM

Originally posted by KaLi

We are not only striking for healthcare. Thats just the main thing that our union is pointing out. Theres a bunch of things we are striking for... but imho I would rather have this retarted shit end.. You dont understand we cant go back to work, if we take one step into the store, we get a big ass fine.

Sorry I thought this was an adult webmaster board, I didn't realize there were so many grocery store workers that hang out here. Healthcare plus all the other demands you guys are striking for, is not fair to the customers or to the stores that can't even afford to pay minimum wage to high school kids, much less meet unrealistic demands of career grocery baggers. Give me a fuckin break.

Walmart starts their non-management employees at minimum wage. Sure they might be a little crippled or white trash-ish but they do the same damn job that people getting 3-4 times more than them get. Lets make all the businesses in the US start paying people unrealistic wages for jobs that you don't need skills to qualify for... talk about affecting the economy, that would surely bring it to it's knees.

People working these jobs make a lot less than "upper class" white collar jobs, but they also pay a lot less taxes AND get refunds.

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10-27-2003, 09:43 PM

I'm actually enjoying grocery shopping again. The replacement workers at the Hollywood Ralphs are happy to be there and a hell of a lot more pleasant than the regular workers.

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10-27-2003, 09:44 PM

LOL, I honestly could care less for Vons. Its just a part time thing to do something on the side. Dont mistake me for something else

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10-27-2003, 09:45 PM

Yay! my moms a stupid bitch. look at the values she is teaching me! Just like my woobie I can have a security blanket for the rest of my sorry ass life and never learn how to earn!
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10-27-2003, 09:48 PM

Originally posted by PM2

Yay! my moms a stupid bitch. look at the values she is teaching me! Just like my woobie I can have a security blanket for the rest of my sorry ass life and never learn how to earn!

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10-27-2003, 09:53 PM

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You have no idea how hard it is to be a worker at Vons. Especially a checker. Dont go making statements you cannot prove or know nothing of.

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10-27-2003, 09:59 PM

Originally posted by KaLi

You have no idea how hard it is to be a worker at Vons. Especially a checker. Dont go making statements you cannot prove or know nothing of.

i was a checker at a grocery store. its monkey work.
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10-27-2003, 09:59 PM

Originally posted by iroc409

lol

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10-28-2003, 02:50 AM

I totally support the right to strike so I am not saying anything specific about this situation but everytime I hear the story I am reminded of the episode of The Simpsons when the bag boys go on strike.
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10-28-2003, 02:57 AM

i'd be nice to these people. i bet most of you guys have no idea what goes on in grocery stores deli & meatmarkets behind the scenes. hahaha I would not want to piss them off.

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