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  • AdultWebGraphics
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2001
    • 980

    #1

    I got my Acacia letter today

    What sucks is I have only signed up to 3 programs in 4 years and out of the 3 only 1 of them has the address that it was sent to and that was Matrix content.
  • brand0n
    been very busy
    • Nov 2002
    • 26983

    #2
    never good
    want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

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    • Reak
      So Fucking Banned
      • Mar 2003
      • 17920

      #3
      you at USA or EU ?

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      • juicylinks
        So Fucking Banned
        • Apr 2001
        • 122992

        #4
        Dont worry about it man, till you get a certified letter or served

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        • AdultWebGraphics
          Confirmed User
          • Oct 2001
          • 980

          #5
          USA

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          • AdultWebGraphics
            Confirmed User
            • Oct 2001
            • 980

            #6
            I wonder if they even look at who they are sending them to. I am a designer, I dont stream shit off my site haha

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            • Reak
              So Fucking Banned
              • Mar 2003
              • 17920

              #7
              Originally posted by AdultWebGraphics
              USA
              Guilty

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              • juicylinks
                So Fucking Banned
                • Apr 2001
                • 122992

                #8
                Originally posted by Reak


                Guilty

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                • Rochard
                  Jägermeister Test Pilot
                  • Dec 2001
                  • 75764

                  #9
                  Welcome to the club.

                  It doesn't seem to matter if you have streaming videos on your site or not, they'll still send it to you. It seems what they are doing is nailing everyone in the industry hoping you won't be able to fight a lawsuit and thinking you'll give in without a fight.
                  Herschel Savage
                  Brooklyn, NY

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                  • juicylinks
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Apr 2001
                    • 122992

                    #10
                    Originally posted by RocHard
                    Welcome to the club.

                    It doesn't seem to matter if you have streaming videos on your site or not, they'll still send it to you. It seems what they are doing is nailing everyone in the industry hoping you won't be able to fight a lawsuit and thinking you'll give in without a fight.
                    Exactly

                    I wish I had like a few million lieing around and I would use it for a staff of cock sucking lawyers whose job was to file lawsuit after lawsuit after Acacia.

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                    • lakeview
                      Confirmed User
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 247

                      #11
                      do your letters even give any domains that you're supposedly violating their patents on, or a dollar amount you owe or anything?

                      or are the letters just really general and they expect you to call them?

                      I saw amp's and his was just general since he doesn't even have any sites.

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                      • AdultWebGraphics
                        Confirmed User
                        • Oct 2001
                        • 980

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Reak


                        Guilty

                        damn, i knew it

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                        • AdultWebGraphics
                          Confirmed User
                          • Oct 2001
                          • 980

                          #13
                          It's just a general letter.

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                          • mr rick
                            Confirmed User
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 104

                            #14
                            no letter yet, but my address on file matrix is wrong. I used mailbox express (never my home address) until I recently moved and haven't used my new address except for ccbill and a few sponsors. my old mailbox express box just shreds or returns anything coming there.

                            Best to rent a mail box for dealing in this industry.

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                            • Stud Money
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 3214

                              #15
                              Originally posted by AdultWebGraphics
                              It's just a general letter.
                              No, you mean, Its just a letter legally it isnt worth the paper it is written on, pretty much like the patent itself

                              Oh we still havent recieved any letters from these asshats

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                              • AdultWebGraphics
                                Confirmed User
                                • Oct 2001
                                • 980

                                #16
                                it was sent to my PO box, I never ever use my home addy for stuff like that.

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                                • Ray@TastyDollars
                                  • May 2002
                                  • 6797

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by juicylinks
                                  Dont worry about it man, till you get a certified letter or served
                                  VERY TRUE!

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                                  • KRL
                                    Entrepreneur
                                    • Oct 2002
                                    • 31429

                                    #18


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                                    • juicylinks
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Apr 2001
                                      • 122992

                                      #19
                                      @ KRL

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                                      • Mike AI
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jan 2001
                                        • 3624

                                        #20
                                        Juicy, you got a letter from Acacia and were pissed, you were pissed with many of the people who settled, yet you have TCG in your sig.

                                        Last I checked TCG was one of the early companies who settled with Acacia?

                                        What is the deal? Can the guido be bought for a few bucks?

                                        I have noticed a lot of Sig Whores with TCG in their sigs making posts AGAINST Acacia, and those who settled, or "sold out".

                                        I found it pretty ironic.....

                                        What is your take on this?


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                                        • SleazyDream
                                          I'm here for SPORT
                                          • Jul 2001
                                          • 41470

                                          #21
                                          didn't sex.com try and sue everyone (before garry had it back) for use of the word 'sex' in their url a while back?

                                          same stupid kind of idea.............
                                          This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                          Now read without the word dog.

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                                          • Serge_Oprano
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Feb 2002
                                            • 9820

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Mike AI

                                            I found it pretty ironic.....

                                            What is your take on this?
                                            My take on this is that you are WRO(NG,
                                            this is GFY and this is NOT Ironic...
                                            this is MORONIC!
                                            ;-)))

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                                            • SleazyDream
                                              I'm here for SPORT
                                              • Jul 2001
                                              • 41470

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Mike AI
                                              Juicy, you got a letter from Acacia and were pissed, you were pissed with many of the people who settled, yet you have TCG in your sig.

                                              Last I checked TCG was one of the early companies who settled with Acacia?

                                              What is the deal? Can the guido be bought for a few bucks?

                                              I have noticed a lot of Sig Whores with TCG in their sigs making posts AGAINST Acacia, and those who settled, or "sold out".

                                              I found it pretty ironic.....

                                              What is your take on this?
                                              OWNED
                                              This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                              Now read without the word dog.

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                                              • juicylinks
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • Apr 2001
                                                • 122992

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Mike AI
                                                Juicy, you got a letter from Acacia and were pissed, you were pissed with many of the people who settled, yet you have TCG in your sig.

                                                Last I checked TCG was one of the early companies who settled with Acacia?

                                                What is the deal? Can the guido be bought for a few bucks?

                                                I have noticed a lot of Sig Whores with TCG in their sigs making posts AGAINST Acacia, and those who settled, or "sold out".

                                                I found it pretty ironic.....

                                                What is your take on this?
                                                Yeah i was pissed, but tbh till i get served I am not going to let it bother me.

                                                If they want to settle thats there choice, only thing that bothered me is affliate info being sent to Acacia.

                                                I mean tbh honest its more than a few bucks at least my deal with them. Now if TCG sent my info to Acacia and said here go get the guido then that a differnet story.

                                                See i was posting alot even way before the sig buyout started.
                                                Now i still post the same amount and possibly less. Hypocritcal ,,, I guess I cant deny it , and you brought up a good point

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                                                • Mike AI
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                  • 3624

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by juicylinks


                                                  Yeah i was pissed, but tbh till i get served I am not going to let it bother me.

                                                  If they want to settle thats there choice, only thing that bothered me is affliate info being sent to Acacia.

                                                  I mean tbh honest its more than a few bucks at least my deal with them. Now if TCG sent my info to Acacia and said here go get the guido then that a differnet story.

                                                  See i was posting alot even way before the sig buyout started.
                                                  Now i still post the same amount and possibly less. Hypocritcal ,,, I guess I cant deny it , and you brought up a good point


                                                  Well at least you are honest, and did not try to play it off or call names. It has been interesting to see how some companies who settled with Acacia seemed to be getting hit hard on the boards (Hulster), while others seem to be getting a free pass ( TCG).

                                                  I was just trying to figure out why this was happening. Was it because TCG is paying posters for their Sig's thus people do not want to piss them off? OR could there be some type of agenda by others to slander certain companies?

                                                  I do not know the anwers, I was just playing devil's advocate.


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                                                  • juicylinks
                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                    • Apr 2001
                                                    • 122992

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Mike AI




                                                    Well at least you are honest, and did not try to play it off or call names. It has been interesting to see how some companies who settled with Acacia seemed to be getting hit hard on the boards (Hulster), while others seem to be getting a free pass ( TCG).

                                                    I was just trying to figure out why this was happening. Was it because TCG is paying posters for their Sig's thus people do not want to piss them off? OR could there be some type of agenda by others to slander certain companies?

                                                    I do not know the anwers, I was just playing devil's advocate.
                                                    Mike,

                                                    You know how GFY is drama starts , people jump on the badnwagon and shit and 5 minutes later a companies name is blasted.

                                                    When i got my letter, it was addressed in a certain way, and based on my own findings I know how they got it. Now if the db was stolen, hacked and so on who really knows.

                                                    Second for example , TCG if they were the com that gave them my info , then you can bet i wouldnt be flying there sig.

                                                    If a company wants to settle its their choice, their business,
                                                    Now if they are gonna rat out 1000's of webmasters to get a better deal and save their but thats completely different situaltion

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                                                    • Flow
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                      • 518

                                                      #27
                                                      Three points here....

                                                      1) Not sure why anybody would come to a public forum and make an announcement that they recieved their acacia letter. Why the hell would they want to go through the hassle of getting these letters certified when the people they are going after publicly confess they have recieved these letters. Screw the second and third notice - go right for court.


                                                      2) Even if the patent is eventualy invalidated, we are talking several years for that process to happen. Chances are pretty good that Acacia will make a pretty penny off of their claim before then. The patent may actually expire (I think it does in like 7 years) before it is invalidated. It is not going to happen over night despite the amount of prior art that is or is not found. More and more companies will continue to sign agreements with Acacia which will make their bank roll grow.

                                                      3) On a positive note, Flash Cash said recently they have like 20k webmasters promoting their sites so I have to believe there is more than 50-70k adult webmasters out there around the world. How many years is it going to take to take all of these "affliate" webmasters to court and win judgements against them? We are talking some serious time. First they have to decided which ones will net them the most money in the long run. and go after them first and I would bet they will go after the huge sponsor systems and AVS in court before they even think about going after those that promote them.


                                                      My point = none, just pointing out some stuff I have been thinking about lately.


                                                      Flow

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                                                      • Adultnet
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Sep 2003
                                                        • 8713

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by AdultWebGraphics
                                                        I wonder if they even look at who they are sending them to. I am a designer, I dont stream shit off my site haha
                                                        fun
                                                        Last edited by Adultnet; 10-27-2003, 09:01 AM.


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                                                        • Webattorney
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                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                          • 30

                                                          #29
                                                          Just published an article on the Acacia issues:

                                                          http://www.adultindustryupdate.com/a...%20ARTICLE.pdf
                                                          Lawrence G. Walters, Esq.
                                                          www.FirstAmendment.com
                                                          Walters Law Group

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                                                          • Choker
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Apr 2001
                                                            • 9024

                                                            #30
                                                            1) Not sure why anybody would come to a public forum and make an announcement that they recieved their acacia letter. Why the hell would they want to go through the hassle of getting these letters certified when the people they are going after publicly confess they have recieved these letters. Screw the second and third notice - go right for court.
                                                            The letter is not a notice of lawsuit. I would think a notice of lawsuit has to be serverd, not just mailed. But who knows. As the letter reads that I got it is not a court document, so the scenario you oultine above is not applicable at all.
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                                                            • Choker
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                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                              • 9024

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Webattorney
                                                              Just published an article on the Acacia issues:

                                                              http://www.adultindustryupdate.com/a...%20ARTICLE.pdf
                                                              I'm waiting on calls from my family law attorney and am trying to get a call in to you as soon as possible. BTW why in PDF? Does anyone have this in text file?
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                                                              • Webattorney
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                                                                • Feb 2003
                                                                • 30

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Choker

                                                                I'm waiting on calls from my family law attorney and am trying to get a call in to you as soon as possible. BTW why in PDF? Does anyone have this in text file?
                                                                Give me an email addy and I'll send it to you in what ever form you want. Adobe is to protect the articles from being altered. Yes, that happens. Talk to you soon.
                                                                Lawrence G. Walters, Esq.
                                                                www.FirstAmendment.com
                                                                Walters Law Group

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                                                                • $hurik
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                  • 853

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by AdultWebGraphics
                                                                  What sucks is I have only signed up to 3 programs in 4 years and out of the 3 only 1 of them has the address that it was sent to and that was Matrix content.

                                                                  Same here.

                                                                  Got my letter today : ) I think Matrixcontent sells personal info to 3rd party.

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                                                                  • Choker
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Apr 2001
                                                                    • 9024

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Webattorney


                                                                    Give me an email addy and I'll send it to you in what ever form you want. Adobe is to protect the articles from being altered. Yes, that happens. Talk to you soon.
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                                                                    • SetTheWorldonFire
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                                                                      • Feb 2002
                                                                      • 7444

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by KRL


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                                                                      • WiredGuy
                                                                        Pounding Googlebot
                                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                                        • 34517

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by juicylinks
                                                                        Dont worry about it man, till you get a certified letter or served
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