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  • Houca
    Registered User
    • Apr 2003
    • 73

    #1

    how to avoid shaving ?

    are there tips to avoid to be shaved ?

    trying the program of course but what else ?

    I have tested a very big us sponsor
    and no credit into my stats...
  • JamesK
    hi
    • Jun 2002
    • 16731

    #2
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    • klik
      Confirmed User
      • Nov 2001
      • 5092

      #3

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      • WiredGuy
        Pounding Googlebot
        • Aug 2002
        • 34515

        #4
        Originally posted by klik
        I play with Google.

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        • Markit
          Confirmed User
          • Oct 2003
          • 1305

          #5
          Originally posted by Houca
          are there tips to avoid to be shaved ?

          trying the program of course but what else ?

          I have tested a very big us sponsor
          and no credit into my stats...
          run your paysite

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          • peewee
            Confirmed User
            • Oct 2003
            • 451

            #6



            let it grow
            Last edited by peewee; 10-25-2003, 02:57 AM.
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            • JamesK
              hi
              • Jun 2002
              • 16731

              #7
              Originally posted by peewee


              let it grow
              nice red x
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              • Houca
                Registered User
                • Apr 2003
                • 73

                #8
                Originally posted by Markit

                run your paysite
                nice answer

                anything else ?

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                • Furious_Female
                  Confirmed User
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 8187

                  #9
                  Use wax
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                  • peewee
                    Confirmed User
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 451

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Wildcard


                    nice red x
                    better now?
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                    • JamesK
                      hi
                      • Jun 2002
                      • 16731

                      #11
                      Originally posted by peewee


                      better now?
                      ah yes it's a hairy cat
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                      • KRL
                        Entrepreneur
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 31429

                        #12
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                        • BritishTwinks
                          Confirmed User
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 357

                          #13
                          Erm... how about counting the number of hits you send them and then comparing that figure to the stats they give you? If the figures are more than 10% +/- you can be pretty sure you need a new sponsor. Simple really.

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                          • Houca
                            Registered User
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 73

                            #14
                            yes cashaddict, but If I was sponsor and wanna shave my partners
                            I'll do like this :

                            no change counter for hits raws (same as partner counter)
                            just change sign ups counter... hehe

                            what is the probability for the partner is testing the program ?
                            just look at their technical specs (lang,ip,cookies...)

                            if probability is under 10% then "shave it dude"

                            I mean webmasters should have a special "bot" for testing program for everybody...

                            sponsor A : reliability 87% on 54 tests
                            sponsor B : reliability 55% on 29 tests
                            etc...

                            to be possible webmasters members have to pay a little
                            by example : 10$ a month

                            if 500 webmasters pay, then the "bot" can track for 5000$ a month with a lot of sponsors...

                            do you follow me ?


                            (sorry for my english)

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                            • JamesK
                              hi
                              • Jun 2002
                              • 16731

                              #15
                              very confusing
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                              • brand0n
                                been very busy
                                • Nov 2002
                                • 26983

                                #16
                                how to avoid shaving by brand0n:

                                dont go into the bathroom

                                never lather anything

                                avoid all shape objects

                                go for the gizzly adams look

                                shoot for beardlocks


                                if you are talking about shaving in the adult biz, get used to it.. everyone fuckin shaves
                                want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

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                                • Houca
                                  Registered User
                                  • Apr 2003
                                  • 73

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Wildcard
                                  very confusing
                                  sure, I know, but reality is crazy, isn't it ?

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                                  • Furious_Male
                                    Doing the grind since 99
                                    • Oct 2003
                                    • 16884

                                    #18
                                    Age old question and getting a serious answer here will be hard because there is simply no way around it but there are a few things you can do.

                                    As already mentioned start your own paysite. If thats not feasible test different sponsors. You need to have a decent amount of traffic to know who is shaving you the worst, and you need to give it some time. Natural fluctations do occur so you can't jump ship right away.

                                    After you get a good baseline and know about what your traffic should convert you will have an easier time finding out whos shaving the least. The general consensus is stick with the sponsor thats giving you the biggest check. It makes perfect sense but I still get pissed off myself thinking that check could be so much bigger.

                                    Remember if you dont like your current sponsor don't send them any more traffic. Try emailing them first. Most will look at your site and try to help you.

                                    I redirect my traffic once or twice a week when I am not happy with the results. If you move your traffic around to several sponsors and get the same results maybe your traffic is shit.

                                    So many factors. It takes time.
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                                    • Goatse
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Sep 2003
                                      • 2086

                                      #19
                                      Don't sign up with ARS.

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                                      • brand0n
                                        been very busy
                                        • Nov 2002
                                        • 26983

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Goatse
                                        Don't sign up with ARS.
                                        do you have any proof what so ever.. anything.. that ARS shaves?
                                        want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

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                                        • LadyMischief
                                          Orgasms N Such!
                                          • Sep 2002
                                          • 18135

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Houca
                                          are there tips to avoid to be shaved ?

                                          trying the program of course but what else ?

                                          I have tested a very big us sponsor
                                          and no credit into my stats...
                                          Don't buy a razor.

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                                          [email protected]

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                                          • Furious_Male
                                            Doing the grind since 99
                                            • Oct 2003
                                            • 16884

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by brand0n
                                            do you have any proof what so ever.. anything.. that ARS shaves?
                                            Of course he doesn't but no one ever has any proof other then "my conversions suck". We can all speculate but unless you work for the back end of these companies you can never say for sure.

                                            Of course there was that one incident where the admin area was posted here on GFY and you could see the shave stats

                                            Not cool to throw out sponsor names though.
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                                            • JamesK
                                              hi
                                              • Jun 2002
                                              • 16731

                                              #23
                                              my muscles are lowland
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                                              • dirtysouth
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jul 2003
                                                • 2613

                                                #24
                                                I think its funny that whenever I post here in a "my ratio with xxx sponsor is shit" thread, I get 3-5 sign-ups almost instantly with said sponsor.
                                                no sig

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                                                • Halcyon
                                                  Spread The Pink!
                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                  • 8609

                                                  #25
                                                  Shaving is like Mexican Killer Bees- not a real threat, but the issue resurfaces every time its a slow news day.

                                                  However, ClickTruth is one option. It is still in a beta period with 3 sponsors submitting to the auditing and a few others implementing the back end scripts right now, but http://www.clicktruth.com is working towards giving us some peace of mind.

                                                  You might ask your program if they would be willing to be audited by a third party.
                                                  HAL on TEDx:

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                                                  • JamesK
                                                    hi
                                                    • Jun 2002
                                                    • 16731

                                                    #26
                                                    Queentie
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                                                    • Houca
                                                      Registered User
                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                      • 73

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Wildcard
                                                      Queentie
                                                      ???

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                                                      • richard123
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Mar 2001
                                                        • 491

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Houca
                                                        are there tips to avoid to be shaved ?
                                                        Stay away from clickcash/ifriends/webpower

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                                                        • brand0n
                                                          been very busy
                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                          • 26983

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by klik
                                                          lmao
                                                          want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

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