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10-24-2003, 04:24 PM

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It WILL make a difference. These are techniques that ALL the great masters have used for THOUSANDS of years... Just because you don't NOTICE it doesn't mean that it's not IMPORTANT... I'm not pulling this out of my ass -- you people are just clueless -- like I said -- probably you got a hacked copy of Photoshop off Yahoo and went through some tutorials at the bookstore

If you're going to be a graphic designer -- at least learn the fundamentals of art...

Why bother to even learn anything -- let's just be stupid and uneducated...

I spent several years at the Alberta College of Art and Design.. trust me I am far from uneducated.. Art is nice, but art doesn't neccessarily sell anything That's what Design and marketing do. Entirely different animals.

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10-24-2003, 04:25 PM

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10-24-2003, 04:28 PM

Hamlet or Avion.

Hamlet's design gives the impression of a very high quality website.
Probably perfect for surfers who are into the babe niche.

Avion's will probably attract your average Joe more because the picture is hot and has a raunchy feeling to it. That was the one that got my attention initially.

If you have a webmaster program I would pick both Hamlet's and Avion's and have two tours to suit different traffic sources.

People who click on TheFly's splash will be expecting an AVSGold login form on the next page...

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And sexsearch.com profit from it.
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10-24-2003, 04:29 PM

Originally posted by TheFLY

Finally some fucking truth... Yes, I agree that my idea of what is sexy eludes most of you nimrods... I should write a book on it to give you people some education.

The problem is all your education and your idea of sexy is obviously NOT what the general population agrees on.. And those are the people that are surfing with their dicks in one hand and credit cards in the other.. Unless you plan on educating all the net's surfers on the finer points of what is art, I doubt they will give a flying fuck as long as they get off :P

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10-24-2003, 04:29 PM

Originally posted by Troels
Hamlet or Avion.

Hamlet's design gives the impression of a very high quality website.
Probably perfect for surfers who are into the babe niche.

Avion's will probably attract your average Joe more because the picture is hot and has a raunchy feeling to it. That was the one that got my attention initially.

If you have a webmaster program I would pick both Hamlet's and Avion's and have two tours to suit different traffic sources.

People who click on TheFly's splash will be expecting an AVSGold login form on the next page...

Yeah it's a tough pick.. I absolutely love Hamlet's stuff though

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10-24-2003, 04:30 PM

get that tour fixed up and I'll send ya tons of sweet sweet babe traffic.
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10-24-2003, 04:58 PM

Originally posted by Troels
People who click on TheFly's splash will be expecting an AVSGold login form on the next page...

Hehe maybe that's a good idea.
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10-24-2003, 04:59 PM

Originally posted by LadyMischief

The problem is all your education and your idea of sexy is obviously NOT what the general population agrees on.. And those are the people that are surfing with their dicks in one hand and credit cards in the other.. Unless you plan on educating all the net's surfers on the finer points of what is art, I doubt they will give a flying fuck as long as they get off :P

I'll sell the info to women to give to their boyfriends.
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10-24-2003, 04:59 PM

yes Fly, it is a lower case 'd' , as is the 'n' .

the font is called Decadentia.

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10-24-2003, 05:05 PM

Fuck the general population -- I'll never stoop to your level.
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10-24-2003, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by Madcapa
yes Fly, it is a lower case 'd' , as is the 'n' .

the font is called Decadentia.

Looks more like an "S"
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#262

10-24-2003, 05:09 PM

That would be a great font if you could find the letters in that mess... This would be a good font for the Lord of the Rings!

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10-24-2003, 05:11 PM

Originally posted by TheFLY
Fuck the general population -- I'll never stoop to your level.

You are being a very sore loser, dear

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10-24-2003, 05:13 PM

Back in my day we did all our own fonts by hand...
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10-24-2003, 05:14 PM

Originally posted by LadyMischief

You are being a very sore loser, dear

Your mom is still sore from last night.
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10-24-2003, 05:18 PM

ummmm yea, ok.
it's a pretty standard calligraphic typeface.

relax man.
i'm sensing alot of negativity coming from your general area.

"Back in my day we did all our own fonts by hand... "
of course you did.
it shows in your design submission.

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10-24-2003, 05:23 PM

Originally posted by TheFLY

Your mom is still sore from last night.

LOL WTF man?!

GROW THE FUCK UP

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10-24-2003, 05:25 PM

1. Hamlet
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10-24-2003, 05:25 PM

Nice design Digipimp!

I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

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#270

10-24-2003, 05:55 PM

Originally posted by TheFLY

Another idiot trying to appeal to the "average surfer".

Only an idiot would NOT appeal to the average surfer.... which according to your words is 99.99% of them.

It's clear why you transformed theFly.net into a "webmaster product" site. You obviously were not happy as your success selling porn to "average surfers" so you figured you'd try your hand selling a get rich quick scheme to webmasters.

Pathetic.

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10-24-2003, 05:57 PM

Just look at your past work.... http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.thefly.net/

If my sites looked like your crap I would also pull a 180 and try to appeal to webmasters.

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10-24-2003, 05:58 PM

Neriah, my apologies for these remarks in your thread - but the outright ignorance/arrogance that theFly has shown is ridiculous.

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#273

10-24-2003, 05:59 PM

Originally posted by Pornwolf
Nice design Digipimp!

Thanks bro, I guess it's alright since I had to whip it up together in a real hurry.

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#274

10-24-2003, 06:00 PM

Originally posted by TheFLY

Hehe maybe that's a good idea.

I already called you out on this, except in less friendly words.

Or did you miss my original post?

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#275

10-24-2003, 11:46 PM

All I see is ass design work. You can sell to horny idiots, but I still wipe my ass with your design bullshit -- and you know that's the truth.

Get a fucking education.
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#276

10-24-2003, 11:52 PM

The "winner" Hamlet is still using immature elements and he won't sell shit over my design...

Like I said twice already -- this design will appeal to the Voltron/Image comics generation -- not a mature audience. Plus the fucker stole the sunflowers elements from another design... that's just sad.

Honestly I think the Kadzuki design is pretty good but really there is no content -- he took two pics and grayscaled them with some lines to divide them and a cheesy filter for some "style" wow how exciting... I'm so turned on by this design...

As for Madcappa -- please... Looks like this guy just discovered Photoshop... It's obvious you have no clue about design -- period. Download all the fonts you want -- you still have no taste and no education.
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10-24-2003, 11:53 PM

She is not going to fuck any of you.

Pussy and computer geek competition do not mix.
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10-24-2003, 11:55 PM

The only intelligent design on here is mine... talk about AVS all you want -- my design will out-sell any of these other bullshit designs guaranteed.
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10-24-2003, 11:57 PM

Originally posted by sharpie908
She is not going to fuck any of you.

Pussy and computer geek competition do not mix.

She's married you idiot... That doesn't change the fact that she's the hottest model with a website on the internet...
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10-24-2003, 11:58 PM

Originally posted by TheFLY

She's married you idiot... That doesn't change the fact that she's the hottest model with a website on the internet...

She looks like every single other carbon copy blonde bimbo. Congrats to her for conforming to the "I wanna be Pam Anderson" look so well.
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10-25-2003, 12:00 AM

Originally posted by sharpie908

She looks like every single other carbon copy blonde bimbo. Congrats to her for conforming to the "I wanna be Pam Anderson" look so well.

Join the "average surfer" club...

You're a fucking idiot.
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10-25-2003, 12:01 AM

She isnt going to fuck you.
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10-25-2003, 12:02 AM

Originally posted by TheFLY
The only intelligent design on here is mine... talk about AVS all you want -- my design will out-sell any of these other bullshit designs guaranteed.

Get over it man, your design sucks just like your attitude.

I don't know what you mean when you say the design only appeals to "Voltron/Image comics generation" because i'm sure as hell not part of that generation and Hamlets design is by far, the best of the bunch.

Get over yourself, asswipe.
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10-25-2003, 12:04 AM

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10-25-2003, 12:09 AM

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10-25-2003, 12:57 AM

Originally posted by TheFLY

IF my design is so bad -- where's the criticism? So far all I've got was that it looks "flat" -- well that's a fucking compliment considering I used all 6 elements of depth including atmospheric distance and still managed Hoffman flatness through my shape integration... Guess what, art is flat, and so is your screen... and making a 3D image look flat creates a dynamic interplay that is really pleasing to look at...

It looks flat because of the flat pastel colours you've used.
The primary colour scheme lacks the excitement fucking a playboy model on a yacht should convey. Even the loafer and pastel wearing golfers it's targetted at can use a little splash of colour when pussy is involved and just because your screen is flat doesn't mean the imagery on it has to be.

The image of neriah you've used isn't that great compared to the others.

the position of the bently is frustrating, the visual weight of the page is lopsided and it's showing enough to distract from the rest of the design, but not enough of itself to be of gratification.
Given the \/\ line used to balance and direct the eye goes as much to the bentley as it does to the start button this is innapropriate. And is shown by the size, contrast and bolding that the "start" area has had to endure to help compensate it. Although the effort to do so is well noted.

The bentley bleeds to the bottom of the page without as much care as it needed - just truncated in the middle of a black front bumper - though effort has been made to line the highlights from the top of the bumper up with the bottom of the screen it's out of proportion with the black space left by the same element on the left and doesn't give the proper form of the car.

Given that the focal point of the page is neriah's face the fact that the word neriah is almost body colour and flat could almost be forgiven. Almost.

The playboy logo SHOULD have been used. Never overestimate the surfer. Without it she could just be eyecandy for a rich boy's toy's expo.

I am in two minds of the "bling" aspect. It's not contemporary and fairly muted which can either be good or bad depending on the tastes of the surfers.

Many problems with this design could be resolved by increasing the canvas area to that of the other designs and focussing a lot more on imagery of neriah, so that the playboy toys are still integrated, but the surfer doesn't feel like he's busting a nut over a yacht instead of a girl implied on a yacht.
It's hard trying to do as much with less. Also as noted sales copy wouldn't go astray either.

The design isn't technically bad at all, but it also lacks the finishing and refinement that could have been used instead of just relying on the imagery of rich things to convey it.

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10-25-2003, 01:16 AM

TheFly, 5 whole pages now you are trying to convince 20 webmasters your design is the best. You asked again why is not the best and I already told you:

Your design sells everything else than Neriah.
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10-25-2003, 01:20 AM

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10-25-2003, 01:30 AM

What about mine, since I was a late entry and I don't normally design for others? Does mine deserve to be in there, It's a quick one hour workup of what could be but it needs refined which would be done if Neriah likes it. I'm not in the poll so I can't get votes.

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10-25-2003, 01:34 AM

Originally posted by SomeCreep
they're all winners

excluding thefly's one
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10-25-2003, 01:37 AM

Originally posted by avion

excluding thefly's one
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10-25-2003, 01:37 AM

Originally posted by Digipimp
What about mine, since I was a late entry and I don't normally design for others? Does mine deserve to be in there, It's a quick one hour workup of what could be but it needs refined which would be done if Neriah likes it. I'm not in the poll so I can't get votes.

yours is cool! write Neriah to include it
or she could start another poll amongst her site members - it will give her more valuable oppinions...
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10-25-2003, 01:46 AM

Originally posted by TheFLY
The only intelligent design on here is mine... talk about AVS all you want -- my design will out-sell any of these other bullshit designs guaranteed.

Your design will not outsell shit.

Good luck with your finger painting, b/c you obviously suck at porn.

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10-25-2003, 02:27 AM

Originally posted by kush2

Your design will not outsell shit.

Good luck with your finger painting, b/c you obviously suck at porn.
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10-25-2003, 03:04 AM

Does this look better with a gaussian blur on the background compared to the other one?

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10-25-2003, 04:32 AM

Originally posted by TheFLY

I already know the general public doesn't appreciate most of my art -- because they're INGORANT

Yea.
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10-25-2003, 05:29 AM

"Honestly I think the Kadzuki design is pretty good but really there is no content -- he took two pics and grayscaled them with some lines to divide them and a cheesy filter for some "style" wow how exciting... I'm so turned on by this design...

As for Madcappa -- please... Looks like this guy just discovered Photoshop... It's obvious you have no clue about design -- period. Download all the fonts you want -- you still have no taste and no education."

i was gonna hold..i really wasn't gonna say anything...i STILL don't want to stoop to your level FLY, but fuck...

first off FLY - correct spelling.
it's Katsuki (who is female) and Madcapa (just one p)

second - it really surprises me how intense you're getting over this whole deal - you yourself admitted that you haven't produced graphic design since 1995 so how do you expect your meager digital skills to match up to those who have been producing digital design day in day out for the last 4-5 years?. just chill the fuck out.

nobody here is claiming to be anything they aren't. being a comp and not a paid job, i highly doubt anyone spent over 45 minutes on the design anyways.
i'm not gonna pick apart your design, there's no need - it speaks for itself. granted, you're entitled to your opinion on everyone elses submissions and i respect that, but remember - it's just your opinion.

you may be a damn good webmaster, and a top notch painter/artist but get your hand off your dick, keep your kindergarten insults to yourself and come back down to earth - bottom line is, you're an egotistical artschool ass who can't produce quality digital design - otherwise YOU would have the votes.

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10-25-2003, 06:38 AM

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#299

10-25-2003, 06:42 AM

Originally posted by TheFLY
The only intelligent design on here is mine... talk about AVS all you want -- my design will out-sell any of these other bullshit designs guaranteed.

Intelligent design? That doesn't sell shit all. And no offense, but if your designs are so shit hot, how come you aren't rich by now? :P

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10-25-2003, 06:42 AM

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