Acacia Letter Update - 10/23/2003 8:58Pm EST

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  • PimpMeNot
    Confirmed User
    • Sep 2003
    • 342

    #1

    Acacia Letter Update - 10/23/2003 8:58Pm EST

    I have seen several post from Matrix content on this board claiming that they did not divulge their customer database. Now hear this.

    I got off the phone with Acacia a little while ago, they told me that I was infringing on their patent with 2 of my websites, one of the two domain names does not belong to me anymore, I let it drop and did not renew it, the other one is a plain TGP.

    1st point: Those are the exact 2 domains that I listed on Matrix content as licence's domains.

    2nd point: Acacia told me that even if you link to a sponsor, and even if that sponsor has paid the licence fee; YOU HAVE TO PAY ACACIA AS WELL!!! If you link to a sponsor that has not settled with them, then they told me that they will sue you for, hear this: "PATENT INFRINGEMENT FACILITATION"
    yes
  • gin
    Confirmed User
    • Sep 2003
    • 672

    #2
    double jepordy, they cannot do that, would get thrown out of a court room , i would fight this if you are just the affiliate

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    • doober
      Confirmed User
      • Jul 2003
      • 6984

      #3
      sounds like they are double dipping from ass to mouth

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      • Sly_RJ
        Live Hard - Die Hard
        • Feb 2002
        • 17042

        #4
        Originally posted by PimpMeNot

        2nd point: Acacia told me that even if you link to a sponsor, and even if that sponsor has paid the licence fee; YOU HAVE TO PAY ACACIA AS WELL!!!
        Sweet! Double dipping in action!
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        • DerekT
          Confirmed User
          • Jun 2001
          • 112

          #5
          I think that the sponsors and content providers that are providing affiliate information are really shooting themselves in the foot. They will loose all the trust of the webmaster community and ultimately, will loose most of their business.

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          • gin
            Confirmed User
            • Sep 2003
            • 672

            #6
            if the sponsor has already paid their 2% they cannot get another 2% from some one working there, that is a total of 4% not 2% and im sure if alot of sponsors knew all of their affiliates would be fucked with they would defend them?, because they are basically the boss of a business, but who knows

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            • SomeCreep
              :glugglug
              • Mar 2003
              • 26118

              #7
              Please... those are some lame ass scare tactics. Tell them to go fuck themselves, see what they do.

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              • Mr.Fiction
                Confirmed User
                • Feb 2002
                • 9484

                #8
                Originally posted by PimpMeNot


                I got off the phone with Acacia a little while ago, they told me that I was infringing on their patent with 2 of my websites, one of the two domain names does not belong to me anymore, I let it drop and did not renew it, the other one is a plain TGP.

                1st point: Those are the exact 2 domains that I listed on Matrix content as licence's domains.
                Matrix again.
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                • PimpMeNot
                  Confirmed User
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 342

                  #9
                  Originally posted by SomeCreep
                  Please... those are some lame ass scare tactics. Tell them to go fuck themselves, see what they do.
                  That is what comes to my mind, but this is America, if someone sues you. then you must defend yourself. For anyboy that has an iota of intelligence and technical knowlege, this Acacia patent bullshit is frivolous and outrageaous, but how do you know that the judge that will hear you knows anything about this kind of matter??? A damn patent & technology firm charges an arm and a leg to represent you, so they're betting on the fact that most people will pay to not be bothered. What's next? The patent on hyperlink?
                  yes

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                  • BRISK
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 12240

                    #10
                    Originally posted by PimpMeNot
                    2nd point: Acacia told me that even if you link to a sponsor, and even if that sponsor has paid the licence fee; YOU HAVE TO PAY ACACIA AS WELL!!!
                    Didn't Hustler and Vivid say in their joint statement that anyone who promotes them is safe from Acacia?
                    I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
                    I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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                    • Sly_RJ
                      Live Hard - Die Hard
                      • Feb 2002
                      • 17042

                      #11
                      Originally posted by PimpMeNot

                      The patent on hyperlink?
                      That's already been tried. And failed.
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                      • GFED
                        Confirmed User
                        • May 2002
                        • 8121

                        #12
                        https://www.flow.page/savethechildren

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                        • icedemon
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 1022

                          #13
                          Originally posted by PimpMeNot

                          The patent on hyperlink?
                          Originally posted by Sly_RJ

                          That's already been tried. And failed.
                          That's what I was going to say. Someone with a patent on hyperlinks was thinking of sueing everybody with a website and lost in the first court case.
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                          • JSA Matt
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 5464

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


                            Matrix again.
                            Exactly. Everyone I have talked to is pointing their fingers at Matrix Content. Of course, they deny it and call me a liar but why would they let the cat out of the bag? That's bad business on their end.

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                            • GFED
                              Confirmed User
                              • May 2002
                              • 8121

                              #15
                              Originally posted by PimpMeNot
                              2nd point: Acacia told me that even if you link to a sponsor, and even if that sponsor has paid the licence fee; YOU HAVE TO PAY ACACIA AS WELL!!! If you link to a sponsor that has not settled with them, then they told me that they will sue you for, hear this: "PATENT INFRINGEMENT FACILITATION"


                              +++
                              https://www.flow.page/savethechildren

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                              • rooster
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 2384

                                #16
                                On oprano someone said they are pretty sure they got info from CE too.
                                Ever notice that pretty much everything added to the Constitution after the original was a mistake.

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                                • The Truth Hurts
                                  Zph7YXfjMhg
                                  • Nov 2002
                                  • 15762

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by JSA Matt


                                  Exactly. Everyone I have talked to is pointing their fingers at Matrix Content. Of course, they deny it and call me a liar but why would they let the cat out of the bag? That's bad business on their end.
                                  Matrix has my address info wrong,
                                  and I got the letter today all the same.

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                                  • voodooman
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Apr 2003
                                    • 801

                                    #18
                                    Our content guy got a letter, and he is just an employee, but
                                    its his name on the contact for Matrix.

                                    Proof enough for me.

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                                    • webair
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Feb 2002
                                      • 8531

                                      #19
                                      I'd like to hear matrix comments on this

                                      get the popcorn out

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                                      • voodooman
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Apr 2003
                                        • 801

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by webair
                                        I'd like to hear matrix comments on this

                                        get the popcorn out

                                        http://www.impai.org
                                        Good Luck.

                                        Im sure their attorneys have told them to say
                                        nothing.

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                                        • LadyMischief
                                          Orgasms N Such!
                                          • Sep 2002
                                          • 18135

                                          #21
                                          Yeah, and they said they wouldn't dip into the income stream more than once.. The fucking idiots.. what the hell do they think this is!? They have NO idea how badly they are screwing themselves.

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                                          • Serge_Oprano
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Feb 2002
                                            • 9820

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by The Truth Hurts


                                            Matrix has my address info wrong,
                                            and I got the letter today all the same.
                                            because Serge is watching you
                                            ;-)))

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                                            • GFED
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • May 2002
                                              • 8121

                                              #23
                                              .
                                              https://www.flow.page/savethechildren

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                                              • GFED
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • May 2002
                                                • 8121

                                                #24
                                                .
                                                https://www.flow.page/savethechildren

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                                                • GFED
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • May 2002
                                                  • 8121

                                                  #25
                                                  .
                                                  https://www.flow.page/savethechildren

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                                                  • Ron
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Feb 2002
                                                    • 408

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by BRISK


                                                    Didn't Hustler and Vivid say in their joint statement that anyone who promotes them is safe from Acacia?
                                                    you mean this:

                                                    http://www.avnonline.com/issues/2003...100703_1.shtml
                                                    Ron

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                                                    • daddynastee
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                      • 310

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by doober
                                                      sounds like they are double dipping from ass to mouth

                                                      LOL!!!!!!!!!!

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                                                      • caspuh
                                                        Registered User
                                                        • Oct 2003
                                                        • 56

                                                        #28
                                                        when it's all said and done remember who tried to fuck you running. will you support them when acacia is all dried up and they say "business is business".

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