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10-24-2003, 08:03 AM

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Yes, but photography needs to be marketed too.. trust me, I'm a photographer, internationally published in the mainstream world. I had to market my stuff to get that far, you know. :P

So my image lacks marketing?

Why do you say that? It's too boring? I know older men's taste -- and they do not like busy, flashy stuff... Older men do not shop at the Foot Locker for shoes -- look at what older men wear -- very plain designs, muted colors, nothing too flashy. You have to know the audience if you're doing marketing -- my design appeals to a mature audience that enjoys the glamour niche... My design is WAY more glamourous than any of the other designs, especially from a MAN's standpoint -- and that's who we are selling to...
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10-24-2003, 08:03 AM

Sharky Hamlet is very good, works pretty much on schedule and has good Flash skills. Hamlet u should talk to Sharky though Hamlet does pretty good on his own but sometimes a steady gig is better than running your own shop.

Nice rendering of a Bentley theFly, what software did you use to create it?

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10-24-2003, 08:05 AM

Originally posted by TheFLY

So my image lacks marketing?

Why do you say that? It's too boring? I know older men's taste -- and they do not like busy, flashy stuff... Older men do not shop at the Foot Locker for shoes -- look at what older men wear -- very plain designs, muted colors, nothing too flashy. You have to know the audience if you're doing marketing -- my design appeals to a mature audience that enjoys the glamour niche... My design is WAY more glamourous than any of the other designs, especially from a MAN's standpoint -- and that's who we are selling to...

Way more than mine? You won't even comment on mine. Come on you ripped everyone else, now tell me why my 1 hour design sucks, because I don't even think my work is that good.

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10-24-2003, 08:05 AM

Originally posted by TheFLY

So my image lacks marketing?

Why do you say that? It's too boring? I know older men's taste -- and they do not like busy, flashy stuff... Older men do not shop at the Foot Locker for shoes -- look at what older men wear -- very plain designs, muted colors, nothing too flashy. You have to know the audience if you're doing marketing -- my design appeals to a mature audience that enjoys the glamour niche... My design is WAY more glamourous than any of the other designs, especially from a MAN's standpoint -- and that's who we are selling to...

I never said your image lacked marketing, I simply said you're very busy tearing apart other people's ARTWORK when the idea here is to MARKET NERIAH.. correct? Why not take a look at some of the most successful sites in the babe niche and find out what makes them sell.. Then come back and yell at me all youlike :P

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10-24-2003, 08:07 AM

The fact is that none of these designers have ever marketed to this niche -- and I have for years...

Her top affiliates are or were the same top affiliates for Oliver Klozov... just like I was when I sent traffic to Oliver! Hahaha
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10-24-2003, 08:13 AM

Still avoiding my questions, I thought you of all people would step up Fly. For the record of the group, I'm the only one that's not a designer, I know how to design, I do so for myself alone otherwise I do many other things but design is not really one of them.

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10-24-2003, 08:13 AM

Originally posted by Mutt
Sharky Hamlet is very good, works pretty much on schedule and has good Flash skills. Hamlet u should talk to Sharky though Hamlet does pretty good on his own but sometimes a steady gig is better than running your own shop.

Nice rendering of a Bentley theFly, what software did you use to create it?

It's not 3D, it's a real photo.
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10-24-2003, 08:13 AM

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10-24-2003, 08:13 AM

Originally posted by ideasign

I doubt Neriah left you out because you're Russian. i'd hire you if i had a site that needed some elegance and style.

i was talking to another designer about your design Danil, he thought the apple was a heavily photoshopped photograph. Is it?

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10-24-2003, 08:15 AM

Originally posted by TheFLY
The fact is that none of these designers have ever marketed to this niche -- and I have for years...

Her top affiliates are or were the same top affiliates for Oliver Klozov... just like I was when I sent traffic to Oliver! Hahaha

None eh? *wink*

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10-24-2003, 08:19 AM

Originally posted by Digipimp

Way more than mine? You won't even comment on mine. Come on you ripped everyone else, now tell me why my 1 hour design sucks, because I don't even think my work is that good.

Looks too oldschool... welcome to 2000+
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10-24-2003, 08:22 AM

Hi Neriah!
Well.. here's the order I would pic:

1. AVION
2. HAMLET
3. HARVEY
4. KATSUKI

I'm sorry, but not dissapointed that I was not included in this 7 names list 'cause they all look great!

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10-24-2003, 08:28 AM

Originally posted by TheFLY

Looks too oldschool... welcome to 2000+

I guess if that's all you've got to say then I don't have anything to worry about really. To call it old school isn't ripping me at all, took me a few minutes to pull together and it's hardly finished or polished so it's all good.

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10-24-2003, 08:34 AM

Originally posted by avion
but hey man you didnt comment our design what do we need to improve/change?

I did... back on page one:

"Avion's has lots of impact. Strong overall design and the enter text is well sized and well placed. The only question I would raise is whether it is a good thing for your name to be overshadowed by the Playmate reference to the extent that it is."
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10-24-2003, 08:38 AM

Originally posted by Digipimp

I guess if that's all you've got to say then I don't have anything to worry about really. To call it old school isn't ripping me at all, took me a few minutes to pull together and it's hardly finished or polished so it's all good.

I'm not sure how your gaphic would be used for marketing purposes...
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10-24-2003, 08:48 AM

I think I'm getting flack because I left out all the marketing text...

You can add some disclaimer shit about being 18+ at the bottom in html out of the way of the design...

If this is for the first page of the tour -- the "ENTER" should be the only thing they see... Most tours have "GUEST, MEMBERS, and JOIN" -- it's obvious the site is about Neriah Davis -- and just the fact that I don't talk about her being a Playmate or a supermodel tells the surfer that:

A) You should know who the fuck she is already.
B) She doesn't need a introduction because you can see for yourself from her pic and my design that she's a superstar... A picture is worth 1000 words. If you had a Yacht like that, who would be on it? Skanks?
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10-24-2003, 08:54 AM

Originally posted by Mutt

I doubt Neriah left you out because you're Russian. i'd hire you if i had a site that needed some elegance and style.

i was talking to another designer about your design Danil, he thought the apple was a heavily photoshopped photograph. Is it?

of course i think it is because i am russian, imho.

yes, the apple and all site it is photoshop work, only logo 'Neriah Davis' i made in Illustrator.

i have been appreciate it if you find me something work, or Matt if you know people who's need designer on full-time period who find hire someone to work via internet it's bee a good too.

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10-24-2003, 09:04 AM

IMHO the

GUEST, MEMBERS, JOIN tradition is just RETARDED!!!!!

A) Why would you join without seeing the whole tour -- if you are going to pay $ for a site about Neriah, don't you think you would be a big enough fan to at least look at the whole tour? DUH! Join link on the first page I think it dumb.

B) Why would members need a link on the front page? Maybe they forgot to bookmark the members area? That doesn't seem like an important problem to me -- the #1 priority of a site is to make initial sales -- if a guy is not going to rebill because he forgot to bookmark the login page/members area he's retarded...

So what's left for marketing here on the first page? Some stupid text about Neriah's beauty? "Behold the majesty of Neriah's curves, yadda yadda" -- no shit Sherlock... who buys that bullshit?

If you're going to have text, have Neriah write it -- a personal intoduction from Neriah herself -- not some graphic designer pretending to be an inspired literary poet genius... One of these designs even had a grammar error...

If you're going to add text about "10,000 pics" I can understand -- all that info can be on the second page of the tour or added to the HTML out of the way -- the first page is going to define the image of the site and load quickly...

IF my design is so bad -- where's the criticism? So far all I've got was that it looks "flat" -- well that's a fucking compliment considering I used all 6 elements of depth including atmospheric distance and still managed Hoffman flatness through my shape integration... Guess what, art is flat, and so is your screen... and making a 3D image look flat creates a dynamic interplay that is really pleasing to look at...

Do I have to move to Japan where good design is really appreciated? I'm surrounded by retards.
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10-24-2003, 09:10 AM

Originally posted by ideasign

of course i think it is because i am russian, imho.

yes, the apple and all site it is photoshop work, only logo 'Neriah Davis' i made in Illustrator.

i have been appreciate it if you find me something work, or Matt if you know people who's need designer on full-time period who find hire someone to work via internet it's bee a good too.

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Danil talk to Sharky at AAAAdultDesign, show him your stuff, you do nice mainstream type work and I know that's part of Sharky's business. I think Sharky's email is [email protected].

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10-24-2003, 09:15 AM

My design is the most completely thought out design on the list...

PROVE ME WRONG FUCKERS. I spend days looking at this thing -- you can spend a long time looking at mine... Did you see how I added the reflection of the laptop on the floor! That's no simple trick... I totally transformed the original photograph while keeping the original photographer's lighting and playing off the colors he used... the gold, black, white and kept the overcast blue... -- there's a complete VISION to my design... it has conceptual depth, compositional depth, it's bold and elegant, crisp and masculine... and it's MONEY.

MONEY MONEY MONEY damnit my design is worth way more than $200 shit this belongs in the Guggenheim.
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10-24-2003, 09:18 AM

This is exactly why I hate graphic design... too many kiddies in the pool. Either swim for the Olympics or get the fuck out of the water.

I'm not designing for retards -- I'm designing for Neriah fucking Davis. All these designers can go back to masturbating in Kai's Power Tools -- fuck you all -- back to my oils!!!!!!!!
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10-24-2003, 09:20 AM

Nobody can out-class me -- as Britney says, "I'm a real class act!"
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10-24-2003, 09:23 AM

Damn FLY bro can I say for the first time you're being a whiney bitch. Just let it be instead of trying to front your shit about what you and bla bla bla, who gives a fuck bro. I sent in a design for Neriah because I like her, not because I cared about the money, I don't sell my designs and haven't ever tried, I don't design for anyone but myself and I have no comments on everyone elses designs. I whipped something up in about an hour to give her something else to consider and another flavor. There are changes to be made to every design so far, that will be done once she gets the one she likes the most. Mine is a splash as was asked for and not a tour, splash being the very first thing you see then enter to the tour.

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10-24-2003, 09:24 AM

Thanks to Teri Wells, the courts say you can call yourself a "Playmate"

But a few of those will get you a trip to court.

The bunny logo is an absolute registered trademak, and they will sue you for using it.

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10-24-2003, 09:24 AM

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James Bond meets Paul Cezanne:

<img src="http://www.neriah.com/customer_extranet/neriah/images/boards/contest/Fly.jpg">

Clarity of vision... Look how I made the yacht into a white wing... Do you see the opposition of the pointing of her foot/leg and how it opposes the pointing on the same level as the yacht?

Do you see how I aligned the "N" with her leg perfectly? Do you see how the Yacht aligns with the "D" in Davis? Do you see how the text aligns with the horizon? Do you see how the Bently windows connect to the composition of the landscape's horizontal flow? Holy shit! That's art baby.
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10-24-2003, 09:26 AM

Notice how the windows of the boat match the horizon line!

Notice how her toe tip touches the edge of the image on the left, how the laptop touches the edge of the image on the right... Look at how her hand responds to the shape of the letter "A" and how it flows down her arm!
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10-24-2003, 09:30 AM

Do you see how I sensually violated the horizon with the tips of the text? Don't you see my brilliant use of complimentary colors and how I added that into the hood of the Bentley? So much so that someone thought it was rendered especially for this purpose! Hahaha... And what about my use of scale and distance and space? Do you see how I weaved text elements into the composition, fucking with your sense of space and flatness?
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10-24-2003, 09:32 AM

Next time you go to NYC -- look for Picasso and Paul Cezanne and really spend some time looking at that shit... God save your damned souls.
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10-24-2003, 09:34 AM

This one looks super

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10-24-2003, 09:35 AM

Nobody on here will ever in their lifetime get to my level on color theory... simultaneous contrast, value alignments -- all tricks deployed through my excellent sense... my cultured taste.
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10-24-2003, 09:37 AM

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This one looks super

How old are you? Do you watch cartoons?
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10-24-2003, 09:48 AM

Well... um... ok.

Someone must have hacked TheFLY's GFY account or something. Because he's calling all these designs childish when he's the one acting juvenile. Surely a real designer wouldn't act this bratty, so it must be a hacker at work, right?
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10-24-2003, 09:50 AM

Originally posted by tootie
Well... um... ok.

Someone must have hacked TheFLY's GFY account or something. Because he's calling all these designs childish when he's the one acting juvenile. Surely a real designer wouldn't act this bratty, so it must be a hacker at work, right?

I'm waiting for these faggot artists to step up to the plate and defend their work. Unless they stole all their ideas from Photoshop tutorial books at Barnes and Noble

I've been doing graphics since before Photoshop was even released! Let's see the competition speak up.
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10-24-2003, 09:51 AM

that one is pretty darn good, but id replace that sunflower with a graphic that says 'PLAYBOY PLAMATE 199x" or something

Ever notice that pretty much everything added to the Constitution after the original was a mistake.
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10-24-2003, 09:52 AM

All I see is wack designs... Zero innovation with the exception of the Russian design and the Geometry anomaly about tied with me in last place...
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10-24-2003, 09:54 AM

What is your target market?

18 year old kids or 30+ buyers?

There is a difference in what each is going to like.
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10-24-2003, 09:55 AM

lol fly you're too funny man, i do like yours because it has a bunch of shit that every male should like (nice car, huge yacht, hot women) but i don't think it fits here unfortuanately. my vote goes to one by hamlet we'll call it "the cartoon"....

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10-24-2003, 09:57 AM

I bet Madcappa thought it would be funny if a NAS logo got into Neriah's website... RACIST!
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10-24-2003, 10:02 AM

NAS: "Q: True, do you think that racism only exists on one side of the equation or coin?

A: Yeah, they all do. "
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10-24-2003, 10:05 AM

Madcappa -- you're a hater...

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Nice idea to put a NaS tattoo in whitey's website
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10-24-2003, 10:06 AM

Originally posted by TheFLY

I'm waiting for these faggot artists to step up to the plate and defend their work. Unless they stole all their ideas from Photoshop tutorial books at Barnes and Noble

I've been doing graphics since before Photoshop was even released! Let's see the competition speak up.

Well the "f" remark was a little out of line.

As for the remark about stealing their ideas out of Photoshop books, (in my best Scotty voice) who's to say one of them didn't write the damned thing? (Sorry, bad Star Trek reference, there, LOL!)

How about a little critique of your work, then?

I think the color of the sky is a little dull. It looks overcast and hazy, not a cheerful thing to see on a day out on the yacht. It looks like it's about to rain, and that would spoil a lovely day on the water. The sky is also too close to the colors in the yacht itself so the yacht almost tends to blend in with the background. Subtlety can be good, but in this case, it's TOO subtle.

The pale blue stroke you used around the text was okay for the white text, but it makes the word Neriah look blurry, almost dirty. For a design that seems meant to capture the interest of wealthy, sophisticated gentlemen, I would expect crisp, clean text, not a gaussian nightmare. The goldenrod and the light blue also neither compliment each other nor contrast in a way that is appealing.

Overall the design is appropriate. I see where you were going. But it lacks interest and visual stimulation and it doesn't seem to be as well thought out as you claim it to be.

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10-24-2003, 10:06 AM

Why does it matter which ones we like best? Put a few of them up and see which ones convert. Often times the ugliest piece of shit makes the most sales.

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10-24-2003, 10:06 AM

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Madcappa -- you're a hater...

<img src="http://mohan2m.8m.com/nas/iam.jpg">

Nice idea to put a NaS tattoo in whitey's website

I have to admit the NaS logo looks a lot like the letters "N.D." -- maybe that's where you got the idea
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10-24-2003, 10:09 AM

Originally posted by tootie

Well the "f" remark was a little out of line.

It's pretty much common knowledge that gay men are stylish and not creative.
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10-24-2003, 10:16 AM

Originally posted by TheFLY

It's pretty much common knowledge that gay men are stylish and not creative.

???

Gay artists: DaVinci, Michelangelo, Marcel Duchamp, Andy Worhol, Francis Bacon, Robert Mapplethorpe, Botticelli, Donatello... shall I go on? Are you calling these famous artists "stylish and not creative"?

I thought you knew a little something about art.

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10-24-2003, 10:20 AM

Originally posted by NetRodent
Why does it matter which ones we like best? Put a few of them up and see which ones convert.

right! second that...

sorry, that was me with the nick of my designer...

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10-24-2003, 10:21 AM

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10-24-2003, 10:25 AM

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10-24-2003, 10:25 AM

Originally posted by Mutt

Danil talk to Sharky at AAAAdultDesign, show him your stuff, you do nice mainstream type work and I know that's part of Sharky's business. I think Sharky's email is [email protected].

thanks Mutt i write him now.

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10-24-2003, 10:28 AM

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