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  • RightHandMan
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    • Jul 2003
    • 1694

    #1

    Legal Documents...Model Release/Photographer release

    Im Having trouble drafting my new model release forms and photographer release forms for the upcoming summer season...do any of you know where i can get a few templates for them or the actual forms?

    And what do you guys do about legal representation?

    I just want to make sure all my bases are covered before i get into all this...
  • AaronM
    GFY Royality ;)
    • Oct 2001
    • 46923

    #2
    Originally posted by RightHandMan
    I just want to make sure all my bases are covered before i get into all this...
    Then quit being a cheap fuck and hire a lawyer.

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    • RightHandMan
      Confirmed User
      • Jul 2003
      • 1694

      #3
      Originally posted by AaronM
      Then quit being a cheap fuck and hire a lawyer.
      Not to step on your toes there fella, but thats what im looking to do, im looking to get information, that is all, i want to be able to understand this shit...

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      • AaronM
        GFY Royality ;)
        • Oct 2001
        • 46923

        #4
        Originally posted by RightHandMan
        Not to step on your toes there fella, but thats what im looking to do, im looking to get information, that is all, i want to be able to understand this shit...
        Then quit being a cheap fuck and hire a lawyer.

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        • RightHandMan
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2003
          • 1694

          #5
          If I had the money to pay a lawyer $1000 bucks an hour to draw up something i could do just as well myself, i wouldnt be talking to you right now...step on

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          • AaronM
            GFY Royality ;)
            • Oct 2001
            • 46923

            #6
            Originally posted by RightHandMan
            If I had the money to pay a lawyer $1000 bucks an hour to draw up something i could do just as well myself, i wouldnt be talking to you right now...step on
            If you could do it just as well yourself then you would not be asking about it here.

            If you can not afford an attorney then you clearly can not afford to be in this business.

            Quit being a cheap fuck and hire a lawyer.

            If you like...I will email some info to you on a great attorney who can help you with this for far less than $1000 per hour.

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            • RightHandMan
              Confirmed User
              • Jul 2003
              • 1694

              #7
              Aaron, you talk shit to me, then you help me...must be the GFY way...

              my e-mail is [email protected]

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              • LadyMischief
                Orgasms N Such!
                • Sep 2002
                • 18135

                #8
                Originally posted by AaronM
                Then quit being a cheap fuck and hire a lawyer.

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                • Lifer
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                  • Feb 2004
                  • 871

                  #9
                  Originally posted by LadyMischief
                  Not

                  This forum is not very helpful... just a bunch of big dicks trying to prove themselves day after day.

                  You really have to wade through the shit just to get a decent answer. Pretty sad.

                  Of course, had you posted some boobs, and said you needed to document their release, these corn balls would have dragged their balls a half mile over broken glass just to get their count up.

                  Go figure...
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                  • AaronM
                    GFY Royality ;)
                    • Oct 2001
                    • 46923

                    #10
                    Originally posted by RightHandMan
                    Aaron, you talk shit to me, then you help me...must be the GFY way...

                    my e-mail is [email protected]
                    I didn't talk shit......I posted hard info.

                    Quit being a pussy.

                    Email is on it's way.

                    Originally posted by Lifer
                    Not

                    This forum is not very helpful... just a bunch of big dicks trying to prove themselves day after day.

                    You really have to wade through the shit just to get a decent answer. Pretty sad.

                    Of course, had you posted some boobs, and said you needed to document their release, these corn balls would have dragged their balls a half mile over broken glass just to get their count up.

                    Go figure...
                    Pay attention to the board name. How about if you go post on hugsandkisses.com instead?

                    Fucking tool.

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                    • LadyMischief
                      Orgasms N Such!
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 18135

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Lifer
                      Not

                      This forum is not very helpful... just a bunch of big dicks trying to prove themselves day after day.

                      You really have to wade through the shit just to get a decent answer. Pretty sad.

                      Of course, had you posted some boobs, and said you needed to document their release, these corn balls would have dragged their balls a half mile over broken glass just to get their count up.

                      Go figure...
                      Really? I don't know about that... Actually, what Aaron said was correct, if you're going to shoot content and you don't have the money to get yourself a lawyer to go over your documents, you shouldn't be fucking shooting content. Why? Because when you fuck up, it makes it harder for those in the industry who ARE doing things the right way. Content can be a risky gig as it is... when people cheap out and figure it will all slide, they are making MY job harder, Aaron's job harder, and all the other content shooters/sellers who are willing to put out the bucks to protect their own asses. All it takes is ONE fuckup to put us ALL under the scope.

                      Do you not get that?? It doesn't just apply to content either. If you are IN THIS INDUSTRY WHATSOEVER and don't have a lawyer, you are just asking for fucking trouble.

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                      • AaronM
                        GFY Royality ;)
                        • Oct 2001
                        • 46923

                        #12
                        Originally posted by RightHandMan
                        Aaron, you talk shit to me, then you help me...must be the GFY way...

                        my e-mail is [email protected]
                        Yahoo?

                        Christ.

                        [email protected]

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                        • Lifer
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                          • Feb 2004
                          • 871

                          #13
                          Yeah! My tool in your ass cum wipe
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                          • RightHandMan
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                            • Jul 2003
                            • 1694

                            #14
                            Originally posted by AaronM
                            Yahoo?

                            Christ.

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                            Pop 3 server is down...my host sucks monkey nutz

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                            • AaronM
                              GFY Royality ;)
                              • Oct 2001
                              • 46923

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Lifer
                              Yeah! My tool in your ass cum wipe
                              Ah...You bring such a convincing arguement to the table too.

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                              • LadyMischief
                                Orgasms N Such!
                                • Sep 2002
                                • 18135

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Lifer
                                Yeah! My tool in your ass cum wipe
                                Wow! That was so profound and intelligent.. A true gem and a worthy contribution to a business discussion. Man, are you for hire? I want you on my team!

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                                • Lifer
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                                  • Feb 2004
                                  • 871

                                  #17
                                  Drama everywhere.

                                  If you have your shit together, it doesn't matter that that other guy did. If he wants to cheap out... it's his ass.

                                  I think one of the objectives of this board is to help.

                                  And the tone makes the music.

                                  So if that ass wipe wants to give wise ass answers fuck'em.

                                  I might not be profound or intelligent... but if a person asked for help... or even asked me to do it before he really tried to find the answer on his own, I would either ignore the post... or tell him in a nice way what the proper course of action is.

                                  I would say he is a cheap MF... even if I thought it.

                                  What do you defend that ass for? It wasn't your biz?
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                                  • AaronM
                                    GFY Royality ;)
                                    • Oct 2001
                                    • 46923

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Lifer
                                    Drama everywhere.

                                    If you have your shit together, it doesn't matter that that other guy did. If he wants to cheap out... it's his ass.

                                    I think one of the objectives of this board is to help.

                                    And the tone makes the music.

                                    So if that ass wipe wants to give wise ass answers fuck'em.

                                    I might not be profound or intelligent... but if a person asked for help... or even asked me to do it before he really tried to find the answer on his own, I would either ignore the post... or tell him in a nice way what the proper course of action is.

                                    I would say he is a cheap MF... even if I thought it.

                                    What do you defend that ass for? It wasn't your biz?
                                    I emailed him the info he was looking for.

                                    WTF have you done to help the situation?

                                    Oh yeah...Nothing.

                                    Keep running your mouth...Tool.

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                                    • LadyMischief
                                      Orgasms N Such!
                                      • Sep 2002
                                      • 18135

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Lifer
                                      Drama everywhere.

                                      If you have your shit together, it doesn't matter that that other guy did. If he wants to cheap out... it's his ass.

                                      I think one of the objectives of this board is to help.

                                      And the tone makes the music.

                                      So if that ass wipe wants to give wise ass answers fuck'em.

                                      I might not be profound or intelligent... but if a person asked for help... or even asked me to do it before he really tried to find the answer on his own, I would either ignore the post... or tell him in a nice way what the proper course of action is.

                                      I would say he is a cheap MF... even if I thought it.

                                      What do you defend that ass for? It wasn't your biz?
                                      Did you read nothing I wrote? ONE guy gets his ass busted, and it puts us all in a bad light.. Apparently you need to find a new business too, or you need to learn reading comprehension.

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                                      • Lifer
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Feb 2004
                                        • 871

                                        #20
                                        Piss off Lady.

                                        And I had emailed him with a zip already...

                                        Where is that guy anyway... I guess he left us to duke it out.

                                        Why don't you two go make out somewhere?
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                                        • RightHandMan
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                                          • Jul 2003
                                          • 1694

                                          #21
                                          im here

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                                          • RightHandMan
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jul 2003
                                            • 1694

                                            #22
                                            im here...i just dont feel like getting into a pissmatch...i came looking for info. This thread turned out to be a piss match, dont want to be a part of it

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                                            • AaronM
                                              GFY Royality ;)
                                              • Oct 2001
                                              • 46923

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Lifer
                                              Piss off Lady.

                                              And I had emailed him with a zip already...

                                              Where is that guy anyway... I guess he left us to duke it out.

                                              Why don't you two go make out somewhere?

                                              Yeah...A zip file that most likely contains legal info from Germany...I'm sure that will be helpful.

                                              Tool.

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                                              • LadyMischief
                                                Orgasms N Such!
                                                • Sep 2002
                                                • 18135

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by RightHandMan
                                                im here...i just dont feel like getting into a pissmatch...i came looking for info. This thread turned out to be a piss match, dont want to be a part of it
                                                That's cool.. at least you get it.. Too bad idiotstick there doesn't have a clue.

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                                                • Lifer
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                                                  • Feb 2004
                                                  • 871

                                                  #25
                                                  Here is a lady (?) from Hickville who sells shitty content telling me I don't get it.

                                                  You don't know me.

                                                  It's not your business.

                                                  I didn't say Aaron was wrong, I said his attitude sucks.

                                                  And that's true.

                                                  Speaking of sucking... your profile says promote eating people... so do me.

                                                  Shampoo boy... get a life. Weiner

                                                  I'm US by the way
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                                                  • Lifer
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                                                    • Feb 2004
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                                                    #26
                                                    RightHandMan... did you get the zip?
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                                                    • ModelPerfect
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                                                      • Nov 2003
                                                      • 2862

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Lifer
                                                      Drama everywhere.

                                                      If you have your shit together, it doesn't matter that that other guy did. If he wants to cheap out... it's his ass.

                                                      I think one of the objectives of this board is to help.

                                                      And the tone makes the music.

                                                      So if that ass wipe wants to give wise ass answers fuck'em.

                                                      I might not be profound or intelligent... but if a person asked for help... or even asked me to do it before he really tried to find the answer on his own, I would either ignore the post... or tell him in a nice way what the proper course of action is.

                                                      I would say he is a cheap MF... even if I thought it.

                                                      What do you defend that ass for? It wasn't your biz?
                                                      The best advice anyone on or off this board could give on this issue is "get a lawyer". This is too important an issue to go about half-assed and trusting people's advice who's credentials or legal knowledge you have no way of verfifying. Sure, AaronM could have been nicer about it, but like he said, this is GFY and you have to learn quick to have tougher skin around here. My advice is: don't trust a board for legal advice...talk to an actual lawyer.
                                                      Logan
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                                                      • Shoehorn!
                                                        Die With Your Boots On
                                                        • Oct 2003
                                                        • 22872

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by AaronM

                                                        Pay attention to the board name. How about if you go post on hugsandkisses.com instead?

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                                                        • Lifer
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                                                          • Feb 2004
                                                          • 871

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by ModelPerfect
                                                          The best advice anyone on or off this board could give on this issue is "get a lawyer". This is too important an issue to go about half-assed and trusting people's advice who's credentials or legal knowledge you have no way of verfifying. Sure, AaronM could have been nicer about it, but like he said, this is GFY and you have to learn quick to have tougher skin around here. My advice is: don't trust a board for legal advice...talk to an actual lawyer.
                                                          Thank you...

                                                          I checked your site.

                                                          You got some nice content. Like your spash too.

                                                          I'll need some stuff in a couple weeks... will look at what you have. I was really surprised, cuz I had never seen your site before.

                                                          Who did your design work?
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                                                          • ModelPerfect
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                                                            • Nov 2003
                                                            • 2862

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Lifer
                                                            Thank you...

                                                            I checked your site.

                                                            You got some nice content. Like your spash too.

                                                            I'll need some stuff in a couple weeks... will look at what you have. I was really surprised, cuz I had never seen your site before.

                                                            Who did your design work?
                                                            Digifan from www.dreamdesigns4u.com did the splash, and I did the rest. Digifan's awesome and treats people right. You can email her at: digifan [at] dreamdesigns4u.com
                                                            Logan
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                                                            • hitinface
                                                              Registered User
                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                              • 67

                                                              #31
                                                              Get a lawyer but you can at least download the forms at www.adultsitelaw.com. I would download it and then have a lawyer review it..

                                                              hitinface
                                                              Always try to hit harder than you are hit.

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                                                              • ModelPerfect
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Nov 2003
                                                                • 2862

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by hitinface
                                                                Get a lawyer but you can at least download the forms at www.adultsitelaw.com. I would download it and then have a lawyer review it..

                                                                hitinface
                                                                Out of curiosity, where did those forms come from, and what qualifications does the author(s) have?
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                                                                • pussyluver
                                                                  Clueless OleMan
                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                  • 11009

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by LadyMischief
                                                                  Really? I don't know about that... Actually, what Aaron said was correct, if you're going to shoot content and you don't have the money to get yourself a lawyer to go over your documents, you shouldn't be fucking shooting content. Why? Because when you fuck up, it makes it harder for those in the industry who ARE doing things the right way. Content can be a risky gig as it is... when people cheap out and figure it will all slide, they are making MY job harder, Aaron's job harder, and all the other content shooters/sellers who are willing to put out the bucks to protect their own asses. All it takes is ONE fuckup to put us ALL under the scope.

                                                                  Do you not get that?? It doesn't just apply to content either. If you are IN THIS INDUSTRY WHATSOEVER and don't have a lawyer, you are just asking for fucking trouble.
                                                                  I don't need to make enemies on the board, but Christ you ?pros? are acting like shitheads with their collective asses in the sand! ??when you fuck up, it makes it harder for those in the industry who ARE doing things the right way?. If you think there aren?t thousands of would be pornographers shooting and posting with out benefit of a contract let alone a lawyer, then you?re blinder than I thought. Perhaps a stroll through Yahoo might enlighten you a bit.

                                                                  Point being, these people are going to shoot that porn whether you mouth off or not. So helping them along which at least one of you did do is the smart thing. Did ya have to whip his sorry ass along the way too? Oh yeah, it?s the GFY way.

                                                                  While we?re at it, what did you think, every successful webmaster started out with a drawer full of cash and a law firm on retainer? Right!!!
                                                                  Last edited by pussyluver; 05-31-2004, 07:20 PM.

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                                                                  • LadyMischief
                                                                    Orgasms N Such!
                                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                                    • 18135

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by ModelPerfect
                                                                    Out of curiosity, where did those forms come from, and what qualifications does the author(s) have?
                                                                    That and the fact that some specifics of laws will vary from state to state, unless they are written locally and with local laws in mind, they could miss very important elements of protection for all parties involved. Touchy stuff.

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                                                                    • LadyMischief
                                                                      Orgasms N Such!
                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                      • 18135

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Lifer
                                                                      Here is a lady (?) from Hickville who sells shitty content telling me I don't get it.

                                                                      You don't know me.

                                                                      It's not your business.

                                                                      I didn't say Aaron was wrong, I said his attitude sucks.

                                                                      And that's true.

                                                                      Speaking of sucking... your profile says promote eating people... so do me.

                                                                      Shampoo boy... get a life. Weiner

                                                                      I'm US by the way
                                                                      Yep, apparently you got it all figured out. You haven't even seen my site, have you? Dumbass/

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                                                                      • pussyluver
                                                                        Clueless OleMan
                                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                                        • 11009

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Just curious LadyMischief, I looked at your site and did a peak at your meta tags. I did see a PIC tag. Did your lawyers advise you to leave that out?

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                                                                        • pussyluver
                                                                          Clueless OleMan
                                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                                          • 11009

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by pussyluver
                                                                          Just curious LadyMischief, I looked at your site and did a peak at your meta tags. I did see a PIC tag. Did your lawyers advise you to leave that out?
                                                                          BTW, that was a question, not a flame.

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                                                                          • LadyMischief
                                                                            Orgasms N Such!
                                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                                            • 18135

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by pussyluver
                                                                            Just curious LadyMischief, I looked at your site and did a peak at your meta tags. I did see a PIC tag. Did your lawyers advise you to leave that out?
                                                                            ? Hit me up on icq I am not sure what you mean? Last I heard my Lawyers didn't do html, just law :P

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                                                                            • AMADude
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Apr 2004
                                                                              • 3875

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by RightHandMan


                                                                              I just want to make sure all my bases are covered before i get into all this...
                                                                              All your base are belong to us.
                                                                              No sig, just here to fuck around.

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                                                                              • pussyluver
                                                                                Clueless OleMan
                                                                                • Mar 2003
                                                                                • 11009

                                                                                #40
                                                                                For those that may be new and not know ? a PIC tag can identify you as an adult content site and help protect children from seeing what many parents prefer they don?t.. Many law firms don?t know jack about HTML it would appear and might miss this. I am not an attorney, but I think it is of moral value to include the info on your site and to list with an organization like ICRA. Could you use it as some protection in court??? Don?t know. Would it be an open admission to something??? That?s why you hire an attorney, one that knows his/her stuff. Assuming you have the cash. Until then, wing it and use resources available online.

                                                                                Got to believe 95%+ of those on GFY know about this. If you don?t, take a look at:
                                                                                icra.org

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                                                                                • pussyluver
                                                                                  Clueless OleMan
                                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                                  • 11009

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by pussyluver
                                                                                  Just curious LadyMischief, I looked at your site and did a peak at your meta tags. I did see a PIC tag. Did your lawyers advise you to leave that out?
                                                                                  That should read didn't see

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                                                                                  • steffie
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • May 2002
                                                                                    • 2422

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    My Attorney only charged $ 250.00 for a one page model release. He is familiar with them. Call around a bit, look for Media Attornies they normally have Model release forms already and won't charge much
                                                                                    Partying since '96 and not going anywhere Anna's Dorm

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                                                                                    • pussyluver
                                                                                      Clueless OleMan
                                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                                      • 11009

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by steffie
                                                                                      My Attorney only charged $ 250.00 for a one page model release. He is familiar with them. Call around a bit, look for Media Attornies they normally have Model release forms already and won't charge much
                                                                                      Thanks. Live in a midwest city. Chances are the attorney is going to advise "don't do that"!

                                                                                      Many firms of value or size won't touch it here.

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                                                                                      • JohnW
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                                                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                                                        • 642

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        1st rule of operating a content production business: Consult a lawyer and get your paper work in order before snapping any pics of shooting any video.

                                                                                        2nd rule of operating a content production business: DON'T consult anyone on GFY for anything other than finding out if the majority of these pudknockers would "hit" any of your models...

                                                                                        ;)

                                                                                        J.

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                                                                                        • Jimmy Lifestyles
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                                                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                                                          • 341

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by JohnW

                                                                                          2nd rule of operating a content production business: DON'T consult anyone on GFY for anything other than finding out if the majority of these pudknockers would "hit" any of your models...
                                                                                          .
                                                                                          Yeah, thats all i thought the buard was good for, that and stroking egos.
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                                                                                          • Lifer
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                                                                                            • Feb 2004
                                                                                            • 871

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by LadyMischief
                                                                                            Yep, apparently you got it all figured out. You haven't even seen my site, have you? Dumbass/
                                                                                            Sure... I checked your site out.

                                                                                            That is how I knew you have shitty content.

                                                                                            Is Foxxy #1 you? You know... the fat ugly one?

                                                                                            Great content...
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                                                                                            • Lifer
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                                                                                              • Feb 2004
                                                                                              • 871

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by LadyMischief
                                                                                              Yep, apparently you got it all figured out. You haven't even seen my site, have you? Dumbass/
                                                                                              Here... let me help you out a little.

                                                                                              LadyMischief's premium content:

                                                                                              http://www.jactcontent.com/nav/set/98111274

                                                                                              You be the judge. Pretty HOT HOT HOT!!
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                                                                                              • Mr. Marks
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                                                                                                • Jun 2001
                                                                                                • 7517

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by AaronM
                                                                                                Then quit being a cheap fuck and hire a lawyer.

                                                                                                Best advice you'll ever get!

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