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  • DomBuyer
    Confirmed User
    • Sep 2002
    • 2595

    #1

    Why most domain sellers are on crack

    Sample discussion today with one of the biggest players in the biz' about him selling me one of his best names:

    ME: "Do you really want to get out of this name?"

    HIM: "I don't want to sell but I would sell for over a million.

    In this market I wouldn't even suggest that.

    ive made millions with the domain though since 1998 when i got it."

    Now that is a perfectly reasonable response: He wants a million for it, but knows it's not smart for a buyer to pay that in the current climate.

    But for all the rest of you that are demanding 2-5 years revenue:

    Get a fucking clue! There are so many challenges right now in adult that the actual long-term worth of ANY name is totally questionable.

    Obviously I buy because I am (cautiously) optimistic, and there's always money to be made, but long term optimism is TOTALLY out the window, and type-in domains are very much a short-term proposition at this point. Between credit card company policies and gov't crackdowns on certain domain names, I ain't paying longer than a year or two max.

    I totally understand if you own a name and are prepared to take your chances, and aren't gonna' be conned out of your name for a song, but you gotta' realize how it looks from the other side, which is damned motherfuckin' uncertain.

    The dirty little secret of this business is that it's runnin' scared right now and bettin' on the right horse is risky business. And all the bravado bullshit I see on this board doesn't hide the fact that this business is going to get twistered again and again, making "certainty" very "uncertain". Traditional business metrics will not apply....sorry.

    Acacia, DOJ, etc, etc? Just the beginning. Screw your three year's revenue. Get out now and pour your money into something more stable, like.....REAL ESTATE.

    So get off the crack pipe and let's meet half way between "certain" and "uncertain" and make a deal.

  • Troels
    Confirmed User
    • May 2002
    • 1035

    #2
    Why on earth would people sell for less than 2 years profit?
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    If a buyer is typein-counting don't go under 2 years.
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    • Monk
      Confirmed User
      • Jan 2003
      • 631

      #3
      Cry me a river.

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      • BVF
        Black Vagina Finder
        • Jan 2002
        • 13975

        #4
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        • KRL
          Entrepreneur
          • Oct 2002
          • 31429

          #5
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          • Monk
            Confirmed User
            • Jan 2003
            • 631

            #6
            Originally posted by DomBuyer
            Between credit card company policies and gov't crackdowns on certain domain names, I ain't paying longer than a year or two max.

            Did something major happen between your last thread that caused you to drop a year off what you are willing to pay?

            "Lately, given the difficult time adult is going through, we tend to pay 1-3 years revenue, but this is just a rough guide."

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            • iroc409
              Confirmed User
              • Jan 2003
              • 4728

              #7
              i had a discussion through email a while back with an ebay seller who was asking $10 million for a domain. no development of the domain name or any traffic whatsoever.

              he was anticipating someone could easily make 1 million $1 transactions from the site. probably realistically several years' worth of work, and that's even if the site could be made popular. lol, it was interesting, i don't think he ever got anyone to buy the domain.

              it wasn't a bad domain name, i just think he was a little high-shooting. i think i'll email him and see if he ever did sale the name.
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              • iroc409
                Confirmed User
                • Jan 2003
                • 4728

                #8
                erp... 10 million $1 transactions.
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                • DomBuyer
                  Confirmed User
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 2595

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Monk



                  Did something major happen between your last thread that caused you to drop a year off what you are willing to pay?

                  "Lately, given the difficult time adult is going through, we tend to pay 1-3 years revenue, but this is just a rough guide."
                  There are some names I would pay three years for, but they are exceptions. Usually they are names less controversial or contentious, so less risk. Or the niches are growing ones..etc. etc.

                  Plus, I buy mainstream and as well as adult, and mainstream names have much less risk so the payout is higher.

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                  • tempra
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2001
                    • 295

                    #10
                    I wonder how long will Adult Industry will keep going as there are lots of free stuff every where and they are really good..
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                    • Theo
                      HAL 9000
                      • May 2001
                      • 34515

                      #11
                      2 years sounds normal

                      most of the time i contacted someone to buy a domain i got responses $50k-200k for domains that barely get any type-in traffic.

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                      • lightswitch
                        Confirmed User
                        • Feb 2001
                        • 870

                        #12
                        Domains should be looked @ like realestate. I have bought a few domains for a few grand, & expect to sell them @ that price or more down the time line. Hmmm makes me think has anyone ever seen a domain name be rented out?

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                        • brand0n
                          been very busy
                          • Nov 2002
                          • 26983

                          #13
                          how much for this domain

                          thisthreadsucksass.org ?
                          want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

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                          • Wizzo
                            2011 GFY Hall of Fame!
                            • Nov 2000
                            • 15224

                            #14
                            Originally posted by lightswitch
                            Hmmm makes me think has anyone ever seen a domain name be rented out?

                            Yea, I've seen it a few times...
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                            • BRISK
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 12240

                              #15
                              Originally posted by lightswitch
                              Domains should be looked @ like realestate.
                              Will Rogers once said, "Buy land, they're not making any more of it."

                              The same is true with domains. They tried adding the .info, .biz, and .ws, but they're a joke compared to .com

                              .com owns all
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                              • Theo
                                HAL 9000
                                • May 2001
                                • 34515

                                #16
                                i have seen leasing option, but with unrealistic prices

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                                • skillfull
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Apr 2003
                                  • 4716

                                  #17
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