Fuck Spamcop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by SpammersShouldBeKilled
Sorry to say, but I'm definately not Julian, although I do live in Seattle (and I even look like him too, but I'm still not him) I'm well known around the anit-spam groups as a rabid spam hunter.
If you think Julian's SpamCop is bad, you haven't seen how deep I take spam investigations. I'll go right down to tax and property information, arrest recordss, phone numbers, Corporation registration, you name it, I'll dig it up. If a spammer hasn't crossed thier T's and dotted thier I's, I'll nail them to the wall with thier webhosts, ISP, attorney General, and State Secretary. And if you think I can't find out what ISP someone is using to check thier "[email protected]" email address, you've got another thing coming....email me and find out. The address tied to this board is [email protected].
WARNING: THIS EMAIL ADDRESS WILL BE CLOSELY MONITORED. AND UNATHORISED DISTRIBUTION OF IT WILL RESULT IN IMMEDATE LEGAL ACTION. SUBMIT IT TO SPAM-GENERATORS, AND YOU WILL BE FOUND.


Maybe...just maybe...spamcop might cause problems for "legitimate" mailers...but ya know what? It's thier own goddamn fault for getting into the mailing business in the first place. I can't tell you how many spams I've received that come from "legit" places like EQUIFAX (oh yeah, did you know Exquifax is connected to LOTS of spam generators? I've collected almost 48,000 Equifax related spams in the last year)
...anyways, back to the point of "legit" mailers...there is no such thing. Period.

SpammersShouldBeKilled
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Make Spam a Capitol Crime. Support the Death Penalty.
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Originally posted by calm


Thanks for the e-mail, it's now on every FFA list in the world.

Your scare tactics are pathetic.

Mailing can be a completely legitimate business. I've never sent a message to someone who didn't submit their own e-mail, confirm, and click again to confirm. Believe it or not there are opt out links that are truly opt out.

But I digress. You're over the edge man.

Originally posted by skillfull
antis should all burn in hell, getting a motherfucking life and be usefull for the society, not worthless piece of crap
for the anti-spammer from Seattle
a big GFY!

Originally posted by SpammersShouldBeKilled
Yeah, ya think so ya little punk Ralsky-loving piece of shit?
People like you are the one's who are stupid, clogging the internet with your fecal matter, lagging and crashing mail servers around the world, causing loss of business to legitimate places and generally making people's lives miserable. People like you who buy products sold through spam make it worse for the rest of us. How big is your dick these days?
Why don't you do us all a favour and stick the barrel in your own mouth, before one of us get's fed up enough to do it ourselves.

Originally posted by swank


Obviously your not the smartest of the bunch.

Originally posted by SpammersShouldBeKilled


No, obviously you're about as sharp as a marble.
Learn to spell, rebel without a clue. You remind me of the Nigerian 419 scams I get every day.

Originally posted by SpammersShouldBeKilled
Sorry to say, but I'm definately not Julian, although I do live in Seattle (and I even look like him too, but I'm still not him) I'm well known around the anit-spam groups as a rabid spam hunter.
If you think Julian's SpamCop is bad, you haven't seen how deep I take spam investigations. I'll go right down to tax and property information, arrest recordss, phone numbers, Corporation registration, you name it, I'll dig it up. If a spammer hasn't crossed thier T's and dotted thier I's, I'll nail them to the wall with thier webhosts, ISP, attorney General, and State Secretary. And if you think I can't find out what ISP someone is using to check thier "[email protected]" email address, you've got another thing coming....email me and find out. The address tied to this board is [email protected].
WARNING: THIS EMAIL ADDRESS WILL BE CLOSELY MONITORED. AND UNATHORISED DISTRIBUTION OF IT WILL RESULT IN IMMEDATE LEGAL ACTION. SUBMIT IT TO SPAM-GENERATORS, AND YOU WILL BE FOUND.


Maybe...just maybe...spamcop might cause problems for "legitimate" mailers...but ya know what? It's thier own goddamn fault for getting into the mailing business in the first place. I can't tell you how many spams I've received that come from "legit" places like EQUIFAX (oh yeah, did you know Exquifax is connected to LOTS of spam generators? I've collected almost 48,000 Equifax related spams in the last year)
...anyways, back to the point of "legit" mailers...there is no such thing. Period.

SpammersShouldBeKilled
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Make Spam a Capitol Crime. Support the Death Penalty.
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Originally posted by SpammersShouldBeKilled
And if you think I can't find out what ISP someone is using to check thier "[email protected]" email address, you've got another thing coming....email me and find out. The address tied to this board is [email protected].

Originally posted by SpammersShouldBeKilled


I'll be looking into www.mypetiteteen.com and it's affiliates soon. I assume you're connected with them? Why else would you have thier URL in your Sig line?
No slef-respecting non-spammer would ever say thing like this.
I assume you might be Francis? C'mon...Francis? [email protected]? Issat you?

Originally posted by swank


Well holy shit ace your a pretty talented kookie, takes a whole lot of skill to whois a domain and do a little searching.

Do you get off on being a pale faced assgoblin that trolls about the net looking for shit to start? "Support the Death Penalty"? Hmm, so lets get this straight, you make death threats and you attack websites via dos'ing, joe jobbing, hacking etc and this justifies it all? For people that are trying so hard to fight the so called problem its funny at what illegal extents they will go to do so.

Originally posted by SpammersShouldBeKilled


Sorry to say, my research goes far deeper than just WHOIS searches. We're talking tax records, arrest records, property records, and such.

And I'm also sory, but you're confused. Joe Jobbing is something that spammers do to a person they're upset with.
JOE JOB: To use someone's email address as a return address when sending spam, ensuring that all bounces and angry replies will be sent to them.
Again, something that spammers do, and yes, I have been JoeJobbed on several occasions. And yes, I have won my lawsuits against them.

Also sorry, but serious anti-spam groups do not resort to illegal activies such as DOSing or hacking spamvertised websites. However, it is well known that SPEWS.org was recently DOSed out of existance..read: http://www.msnbc.com/news/959094.asp?cp1=1

So now tell me, who resorts to illegal activities?


JimmyReject, if any of them wishes to "take me on" I'd love to. I enjoy it.

Originally posted by twistyneck
Quit your crying you little bitch and face the fact that you've been owned by spamcop. I bet if you ask real nice you can get some extra hours at McDonald's to make up for it.

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
har har you are so stupid its not even funny

Originally posted by Punk`d


so much time wasted

Originally posted by Aussie Rebel
Fuck Spammers!!! I report 'em everyday of the week.
Spammers on here say just hit delete, Well why the fuck should I when I didn't opt in to there shit in the first place, and if I have to waste my time deleteing 100's and 100's of emails a day I figure fuck it I'll spend my time reporting them instead and since I started doing that my spam box has dropped heaps.
Spamcop Rules Spam may never be wiped out but fuck it I'll do my best to put a dint in the dirty fuckers pockets

Originally posted by SpammersShouldBeKilled


When I'm awareded $500 for every peice of spam from someone I am able to track down, trust me, that is not time wasted.

In the last 2 months, I've collected 354 Alan Ralsky Spams, 124 Eddy Marin Spams, 53 Ronnie Scelson Spams, 87 "Dima Mizhen's", and a slew of other stuff that I'm, sorting out.

Just counting the ones I know who are responsible for, that totals....

$177,000 from Ralsky
$62,000 from Marin
$26,500 from Scelson
$43,500 from "Mizhen", who's being investigated deeper, because we don't know if the name is legit.

That totals $308,500 for a little bit of detective work...it's very worth it.

You obviously haven't seen this:
King COunty Judge Awards $250,000
That's right here...in my backyard.

Now tell me, how is my time wasted?

Originally posted by SleazyDream


i don't often agree with you - but i AGREE 100% on this one.


lets make it as DIFFICULT as POSSIBLE for these spammers.

next we need to go after these damn scripts that add popups and hijackering stuff to people's computers.

Originally posted by Aussie Rebel


I have been adding links to free spyware removal programs on my sites so my surfers can get rid of the spyware that has been illegally put on there machines and I also put a link to spamcop so they can learn how to report spam, I think if enough HONEST webmasters start adding links to spamcop and spyware removal programs it might start to educate the surfer and show them that there is something they can do about it .

This morning I showed my wife how to use spamcop so now she can report all the spam I get which free's my time up

Originally posted by skillfull
this guy is full of shit :P
how to sue someone when spamming is legal ?
but making death threat isnt, im thinking about sueing you for the death threat, we will we see if you can make some investigation when you will be beggin some change in the street

Originally posted by ronbotx


You need a ride aboard the "clue train " since you are not full of shit, just plain stupid like your spamming buddies. Although there are no strong federal laws in regards to spam, there are numerous state anti-spam laws that have some bite. Some of the more notable are in Washington, Virginia, and California. I live in Texas and a new anti-spam took effect here as of 09/01/03. (http://www.spamlaws.com/state/tx.html)
The other guy quoted this URL http://www.internetnews.com/IAR/article.php/3075271 , which you might try reading if you can. Basically as a result of the Washington anti-spam law an anti-spammer won a $250,000 judgement against some dirtbag bulkers in Ohio.

On the international front , some recent anti UCE laws have instituted in UK and Italy. There even is some movement in China , but I'm still not holding my breadth on that one.

Here is a some information on various antispam laws... http://www.spamlaws.com/. Please do some research before talking about things you know nothing about.

Originally posted by skillfull


Distribution of unsolicited promotional and product information, in print form or over electronic networks is not illegal nor is it regulated in Canada. In the same way, advertising, except in the Canadian broadcasting system, is generally not federally regulated. There are, however, specific provisions in various laws dealing with such things as tobacco advertising or misleading advertising in the Competition Act. Spam is also considered a form of expression and, as such, any attempt by the government to control it, regardless of the means, would have to be consistent with section 2 of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Internet service providers are subject to the same laws and regulations as most other businesses and there are no special rules for the Internet service industry. Unlike the telephone companies, ISPs are generally not subject to regulation under the Telecommunications Act because they are not considered to be facilities-based common carriers.

http://e-com.ic.gc.ca/english/strat/spam.html

who dont know what he is talking about ?

Originally posted by skillfull


Distribution of unsolicited promotional and product information, in print form or over electronic networks is not illegal nor is it regulated in Canada. .....
who dont know what he is talking about ?

Originally posted by ZakAttack
and just how are you getting this money? Is this monopoly money or something in some little game you guys play? Who is going to pay you 500 bux per spam message?

Originally posted by skillfull
....but making death threat isnt, im thinking about sueing you for the death threat, we will we see if you can make some investigation when you will be beggin some change in the street

Originally posted by jimmyf
Won't be very long, if you live in USA and are a spammers you'll be doing time. The Govt. will take every thing you own 2 in fines.

Originally posted by ronbotx
Skillful:

You said SPAM was not illegal without qualification. I indicated specific examples of laws in the US where UCE is illegal. Many nations concur with this opinion. Dumping unwanted crap in my mailbox is NOT free expression

Apparently Canadian spam laws are same the as their immigration laws. You transmit and accept electronic trash from everyone and also allow anyone (terrorists included) into your country without any identification. I'm sure Al-Qaeda appreciates the easy access.

Originally posted by Aussie Rebel


I have been adding links to free spyware removal programs on my sites so my surfers can get rid of the spyware that has been illegally put on there machines and I also put a link to spamcop so they can learn how to report spam, I think if enough HONEST webmasters start adding links to spamcop and spyware removal programs it might start to educate the surfer and show them that there is something they can do about it .

This morning I showed my wife how to use spamcop so now she can report all the spam I get which free's my time up

I don't believe you are in it to, "do what's right", or to, "stop the spam problem". What's the matter here, is business just not paying well? Needing a way to come up with a second income? I believe you are going about your "sue happy" ways because you are trying to make money off our worlds spam problem. With all that you've said its pretty clear you are trying to make money here, which is absolutely ridiculous and makes you no better than spammers themselves. Its pretty much like the idiots who tried to benefit off selling certain items when the 9/11 attack happened, they were trying to benefit for their own good off others losses and problems. http://www.indianaspam.com ? You are not a true "anti spammer" as they are in this to stop the problem, not benefit from it..


You are complaining about receiving some junk CYBER mail, yet you fail to realize in how many other ways we see/receive spam on a daily basis.. Do also realize how much of a roll email advertising plays in our society? You'd be surprised at how many major business and GOV corporations have their hands in these so called spam operations. You complain about how much money this costs you.. Strange.. I didn't know sitting at a pc and taking a minute to delete some emails put a big whole in your pocket.. According to your posts here you say you are suing for spam emails that you have received.. Once again the emails are not costing you money so its obvious you are just trying to make money off a big problem here and your not trying to help fix it.. I could understand if your servers were compromised and used as open relays to send mail, your email address was used as a from address, someone illegally accessed your servers and used them to transmit email, someone rooted you machines and setup proxy servers on them.. But that is clearly not the case here..


Do you watch where you post and submit your email addresses? Have you know the most common mistake incompetent surfers make is the mistake of not reading the fine print, TOU, AUP, etc that is on many forms, adds, paperwork, etc that you fill out and submit, whether it be online or offline.. These are forms where bulk mailers get opt-in and double opt-in emails both of which are 100% legal to send and is what the majority of legit mailers purchase and use. If you have even submitted your email once to any site there's a very great chance that you will receive ads and offers from companies. These companies can then sell their optin database to other companies and so fourth meaning.. yes you could "legally" receive alot of different email advertisements from different companies whether your like it or not. At this point and time you would have to opt-out of every one of these ads and hope that your email wasn't sold to any other companies or you will be doing it over and over until you have caught up with them. Yes this really gets annoying, but its legal and you have to accept this if you don't care to read every bit of information when submitting your information.


You are taking on alot of big companies here and I highly doubt you will succeed in your $ motivated sue mission. Why don't you come and express your feelings and goals with everyone on NANAE?

To the people out there that are really trying to solve the spam problem, keep up your work. To the people like this arrogant @sshole, you aren't helping the problem any at all and you are no better than a spammer himself..


You both have the same goal in common.. "making money from pissing off others."

Originally posted by SpammersShouldBeKilled
I make $780/hr. If it takes me 2 seconds to delete a spam, I've just lost about 42 cents worth of my time. THAT FUCKING ADDS UP when you get 500 spams a day. And no, I've never signed up for shit

Originally posted by Aussie Rebel


I have been adding links to free spyware removal programs on my sites so my surfers can get rid of the spyware that has been illegally put on there machines and I also put a link to spamcop so they can learn how to report spam, I think if enough HONEST webmasters start adding links to spamcop and spyware removal programs it might start to educate the surfer and show them that there is something they can do about it .

This morning I showed my wife how to use spamcop so now she can report all the spam I get which free's my time up

Originally posted by sexyclicks


you forgot a decimal: $7.80 an hour

Originally posted by sexyclicks


you forgot a decimal: $7.80 an hour

Originally posted by skrowyenom
spamcops = haters

Originally posted by skrowyenom
spamcops = haters