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  • Holly
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jun 2003
    • 10017

    #51
    Originally posted by Squirtit
    Holly I'd seriously take anything he has to say with a grain of salt
    It doesn't have to be for him, then. That's why I said "not for one person". I've actually been meaning to start a thread about that subject. If people who are knowledgeable already know, it would save me a lot of time and hassle trying to get partner accounts at a bunch of places that I don't have a snowball's chance in hell of making a sale. If I say "it's not worth it", I know someone will come along and tell me there's TONS of money for gay sites on mainly straight tgps.

    Someone throw me a bone and help me out here.
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    • fun2cboys
      Confirmed User
      • Jul 2003
      • 643

      #52
      Some of the best gay traffic that I have ever gotten has been from surfing through gay yahoo groups and gay msn groups and just throwing my url out there...that was before a lot of the groups were moderated though ;-(
      Every exit is an entrance to somewhere else.....

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      • Bladewire
        StraightBro
        • Aug 2003
        • 56220

        #53
        Originally posted by Holly

        It doesn't have to be for him, then. That's why I said "not for one person". I've actually been meaning to start a thread about that subject. If people who are knowledgeable already know, it would save me a lot of time and hassle trying to get partner accounts at a bunch of places that I don't have a snowball's chance in hell of making a sale. If I say "it's not worth it", I know someone will come along and tell me there's TONS of money for gay sites on mainly straight tgps.

        Someone throw me a bone and help me out here.
        ok.. even though you dogged me in your last post I'll give you a chance. Don't forget to thank me....

        Straight TGP advertise MMF content


        Skype: CallTomNow

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        • Holly
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Jun 2003
          • 10017

          #54
          Originally posted by Squirtit


          Boy you sure read a lot into what I said! You are the new Ynot moderator for the Gay section right?
          What the fuck are you talking about? I wasn't reading anything into your post, cause I wasn't even commenting on your post. I was commenting on Stud Money's post, but now that I've re-read it, I may have misunderstood him.

          I'm one of the few people who asked a legitimate fucking question in this thread. What are you getting pissy with me, for?
          War National Damn Champions Eagle

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          • Stud Money
            So Fucking Banned
            • Sep 2003
            • 3214

            #55
            Originally posted by Squirtit


            ok.. even though you dogged me in your last post I'll give you a chance. Don't forget to thank me....

            Straight TGP advertise MMF content
            So you are saying that gay men like to see women on porn sites?

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            • Bladewire
              StraightBro
              • Aug 2003
              • 56220

              #56
              Originally posted by Holly

              It doesn't have to be for him, then. That's why I said "not for one person". I've actually been meaning to start a thread about that subject. If people who are knowledgeable already know, it would save me a lot of time and hassle trying to get partner accounts at a bunch of places that I don't have a snowball's chance in hell of making a sale. If I say "it's not worth it", I know someone will come along and tell me there's TONS of money for gay sites on mainly straight tgps.

              Someone throw me a bone and help me out here.
              Then on the MMF site link to the solo stuff.. then from solo to gay hardcore


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              • Bladewire
                StraightBro
                • Aug 2003
                • 56220

                #57
                Originally posted by Stud Money


                So you are saying that gay men like to see women on porn sites?
                Dude you have absolutely no clue.. I hate being rude to people on here but you're just out to make me look bad for some reason and I don't want to get into it with you. I'm out to make money here not play turf games


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                • Stud Money
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 3214

                  #58
                  You don't know where I'm coming from to make such a comment... unless you the type of straight webmaster that is ripping off Gay subscribers ( which is what I'm against ) and just in the Gay community to make a quick buck.. if that's where you're coming from your "help" is no good.
                  No i dont know where you are coming from so far as where your site is currently at developmentally. Is it a new site, an old site, how much content do you have, do you have an affiliate program etc?

                  Ill give you as much advice as you want but you need to let me have some information to be able to help you first

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                  • Stud Money
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 3214

                    #59
                    Originally posted by Squirtit


                    I don't doubt it .. your advice on here has been marginal at best
                    Hence why you are asking for advice no doubt ;)

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                    • Bladewire
                      StraightBro
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 56220

                      #60
                      Originally posted by Holly

                      What the fuck are you talking about? I wasn't reading anything into your post, cause I wasn't even commenting on your post. I was commenting on Stud Money's post, but now that I've re-read it, I may have misunderstood him.

                      I'm one of the few people who asked a legitimate fucking question in this thread. What are you getting pissy with me, for?
                      Read my previous posts 3 hours sleep.. long day and shitt from StudMoney = pissy


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                      • Stud Money
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 3214

                        #61
                        Originally posted by Holly
                        Okay- not so much a question for any one person.

                        Do you think it's worth the time and/or profitable to submit gay gallys to primarily straight tgps? I know most of them have a "gay" category, but are there really enough sales there to bother with it? Do any of the gay guys here remember surfing straight tgps? I know the "closeted, in denial" guys would be good targets, but are those the only ones you're gonna get?

                        And does the size of the straight tgp matter? In other words, it's worth it for the top big guys, but don't fool with the smaller/mid sized ones?

                        Enlighten me.
                        Holly,

                        Yes i think it is a worthwhile task submitting gay galleries to straight TGP's that have a category for them.

                        Ultimately, you need to get traffic to make money and, finding new traffic sources is something that every webmaster must do on a regular basis.

                        That said however, if, after submitting your galleries to these straight TGP's for one or two weeks you are not noticing an increase in additional traffic then you should try to find alternate sources once again, whether they be alternative straight TGP's with gay categorys or, 100% gay TGP's.

                        Incidently Dawgy has juts launched a new site which you might like to submit to im sure he will drop the URL for you in this thread.

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                        • Bladewire
                          StraightBro
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 56220

                          #62
                          Originally posted by Stud Money


                          Hence why you are asking for advice no doubt ;)
                          StudMoney there is nothing wrong with one testing anothers knowledge and seeing where you were coming from.

                          I wanted to see if you were pushing something , or what your angle was. I've been in business for 3 years online and just coming to this community and am testing the waters.


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                          • Stud Money
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 3214

                            #63
                            Originally posted by Adorno


                            He has only been doing this a year. It would be like taking advice from any other newb.

                            Just because he eats cock, does not mean he can sell it.

                            Nearly every major gay traffic source out there, and most of the best converting gay sites on the market, are run by breeders.
                            Whether they are run by gay or straight webmasters has nothing to do with it, the ONLY consideration any webmaster looking to market adult materials to gay surfers should be whether the traffic they are getting for the work is profitable whether that is on a gay tgp or a straight tgp with a gay category

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                            • Bladewire
                              StraightBro
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 56220

                              #64
                              Originally posted by Stud Money


                              Holly,

                              Yes i think it is a worthwhile task submitting gay galleries to straight TGP's that have a category for them.

                              Ultimately, you need to get traffic to make money and, finding new traffic sources is something that every webmaster must do on a regular basis.

                              That said however, if, after submitting your galleries to these straight TGP's for one or two weeks you are not noticing an increase in additional traffic then you should try to find alternate sources once again, whether they be alternative straight TGP's with gay categorys or, 100% gay TGP's.

                              Incidently Dawgy has juts launched a new site which you might like to submit to im sure he will drop the URL for you in this thread.
                              Marginal advice... give her some good stuff on the public board like I just did! Come on man!


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                              • Dawgy
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jul 2001
                                • 5856

                                #65
                                Originally posted by Stud Money
                                Whether they are run by gay or straight webmasters has nothing to do with it, the ONLY consideration any webmaster looking to market adult materials to gay surfers should be whether the traffic they are getting for the work is profitable whether that is on a gay tgp or a straight tgp with a gay category
                                so, quality is irrelevant? typical 'fuck the surfer' attitude? youre saying that is best?
                                the revolution is coming.

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                                • Stud Money
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Sep 2003
                                  • 3214

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by Holly

                                  So where does that leave female webmasters? I'm not into women sexually, so I shouldn't push "straight" sites, and I'm not into gay guys sexually, so I shouldn't push "gay" sites? So I'm only qualified for "women's porn", basically?

                                  IMO, that's a load of bull. Straight guys/girls can do gay sites, and gay guys/girls can do straight sites. As long as you're willing to take the time to do them right and learn about the area you're focusing on, I can't see the big deal.
                                  Holly,

                                  That was a comment directed to squirtit after his comments on the YNOT board stating that straight webmasters, in effect shouldnt market to gay adult surfers.

                                  Ultimately, whether you are straight, gay, bisexual or martian, the only thing you should be concerned with when making any type of site is whether the method of building you are using is making you money, regardless of the niche in which you are working.

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                                  • Bladewire
                                    StraightBro
                                    • Aug 2003
                                    • 56220

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by Stud Money


                                    Whether they are run by gay or straight webmasters has nothing to do with it, the ONLY consideration any webmaster looking to market adult materials to gay surfers should be whether the traffic they are getting for the work is profitable whether that is on a gay tgp or a straight tgp with a gay category
                                    I agree with you. But people out to take advantage of the Gay market.. whether Gay or Straight is not good. You have to been in it because you like it.. you will make money that way. ... just like having a job you like.. easier to succeed.


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                                    • Bladewire
                                      StraightBro
                                      • Aug 2003
                                      • 56220

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by Stud Money


                                      Holly,

                                      That was a comment directed to squirtit after his comments on the YNOT board stating that straight webmasters, in effect shouldnt market to gay adult surfers.

                                      Ultimately, whether you are straight, gay, bisexual or martian, the only thing you should be concerned with when making any type of site is whether the method of building you are using is making you money, regardless of the niche in which you are working.
                                      Why are you attacking me? I've already said where I stand on that issue... why are you saying this? What have I done to you?


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                                      • Stud Money
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Sep 2003
                                        • 3214

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by Dawgy

                                        so, quality is irrelevant? typical 'fuck the surfer' attitude? youre saying that is best?
                                        No i am saying that the only thing we should be concerned about to run our businesses is whether the traffic is converting our sponsors or not period.

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                                        • Adorno
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Sep 2003
                                          • 303

                                          #70
                                          this kid needs medicine

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                                          • Dawgy
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jul 2001
                                            • 5856

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by Stud Money
                                            No i am saying that the only thing we should be concerned about to run our businesses is whether the traffic is converting our sponsors or not period.
                                            ok, makes sense.

                                            however if i continually push surfers to sites that suck ass, eventually they wont trust me, and wont join anything i give them....

                                            have u ever joined a gay site from a large mainstream program? i guarantee if u did, u would think twice before joining any other site again, ever.
                                            the revolution is coming.

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                                            • Stud Money
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Sep 2003
                                              • 3214

                                              #72
                                              As this thrad appears to have turned into a bashing session by certain people im not going to make any more replies, if anyone needs any more help on Gay Market issues feel free to email [email protected] or head over to Gay Wide Webmasters and ask on the forums there.

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                                              • Bladewire
                                                StraightBro
                                                • Aug 2003
                                                • 56220

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by Dawgy

                                                so, quality is irrelevant? typical 'fuck the surfer' attitude? youre saying that is best?
                                                You're paying attention.. that's good!


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                                                • Dawgy
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                  • 5856

                                                  #74
                                                  heated debate is not the same as bashing, relax dood
                                                  the revolution is coming.

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                                                  • fun2cboys
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                    • 643

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by Dawgy

                                                    ok, makes sense.

                                                    however if i continually push surfers to sites that suck ass, eventually they wont trust me, and wont join anything i give them....

                                                    have u ever joined a gay site from a large mainstream program? i guarantee if u did, u would think twice before joining any other site again, ever.
                                                    I TOTALLY AGREE

                                                    I think that when you start sacrificing quality for qantity that eventually the quality wont matter anymore because the quantity will be gone
                                                    Last edited by fun2cboys; 10-14-2003, 08:09 PM.
                                                    Every exit is an entrance to somewhere else.....

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                                                    • Bladewire
                                                      StraightBro
                                                      • Aug 2003
                                                      • 56220

                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by Dawgy

                                                      ok, makes sense.

                                                      however if i continually push surfers to sites that suck ass, eventually they wont trust me, and wont join anything i give them....

                                                      have u ever joined a gay site from a large mainstream program? i guarantee if u did, u would think twice before joining any other site again, ever.
                                                      You're right.. this is a common mistake made in Gay marketing on a mass scale. They just don't get it ( I'm not saying StudMoney necessarily because I know nothing about him )

                                                      The suck ass are called "feeder sites " Dawgy.. they are usuallly shitt and cheap.. they are used to "upsell" surfers to a better quality pay site. Unfortunately when the surfer is ripped off like this.. they thing twice before joining another site. It's not a good practice. Feeder sites can be done well and successfull.. and make the surfer happy.


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                                                      • Holly
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Jun 2003
                                                        • 10017

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by Squirtit


                                                        ok.. even though you dogged me in your last post I'll give you a chance. Don't forget to thank me....

                                                        Straight TGP advertise MMF content
                                                        okay- edited.

                                                        I just told you to fuck off about 10 different ways, and had a picture linked for your "thank-you", went to take a phone call, and luckily I hit preview and saw your latest post about the sleep thing, before I hit submit.

                                                        This has spun out of control. I have a feeling I've stepped into the middle of shit that started way before this thread. Between this, fight the patent, and the pedo king, I can't handle any more personal board drama today.

                                                        I just wanted to know if anyone had an opinion on whether it's worth my time to submit to straight tgps, based on their experience. I'm going to search through my cabinets for alcohol, now.
                                                        War National Damn Champions Eagle

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                                                        • Bladewire
                                                          StraightBro
                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                          • 56220

                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by Holly

                                                          okay- edited.

                                                          I just told you to fuck off about 10 different ways, and had a picture linked for your "thank-you", went to take a phone call, and luckily I hit preview and saw your latest post about the sleep thing, before I hit submit.

                                                          This has spun out of control. I have a feeling I've stepped into the middle of shit that started way before this thread. Between this, fight the patent, and the pedo king, I can't handle any more personal board drama today.

                                                          I just wanted to know if anyone had an opinion on whether it's worth my time to submit to straight tgps, based on their experience. I'm going to search through my cabinets for alcohol, now.
                                                          Holly I just gave you GOLD advice.. refresh the thread and read my posts to you


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                                                          • Holly
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                            • 10017

                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by Squirtit


                                                            Holly I just gave you GOLD advice.. refresh the thread and read my posts to you
                                                            Yes, I saw that, and it does make sense. All my sites are gay as 3 dollar bills and I've never really had any interest in bi stuff or MMF, so I've never thought about using it to filter to my gay content. I was just thinking about submitting purely gay galleries.

                                                            I do get good traffic from gay tgps, I just wasn't sure if it would be the same from the straight ones. I'll have to round up some MMF content and try it. Thanks for the tip.
                                                            War National Damn Champions Eagle

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                                                            • DrewKole
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                              • 5193

                                                              #80
                                                              Who are you to give advise? Being gay doesn't mean you know shit about promoting it. =)

                                                              And, by the feeble attempts at lies you've passed on here, I'd say thats the damned fucking truth.

                                                              Get a life Lee and crew.

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                                                              • HunkyLuke
                                                                Virgin by request ;)
                                                                • Feb 2002
                                                                • 1924

                                                                #81
                                                                Holly, YES!!! submit your gay sites to straight tgps with gay categories. The main reasons:
                                                                - do a search in any S.E. for some gay terms and see who comes up, its usually a mix of gay and straight sites.
                                                                - MMF is a niche that attracts gay/straight/bi people. If they are searching for MMF on a tgp, they will likely also check out gay sites.
                                                                - tgp surfers that are not out of the closet go to straight tgp sites
                                                                - loads of women like checking out gay porn and they usually go to straight tgp sites. Its amazing how many women sign up for gay pay sites too.
                                                                - surfers interested in gay galleries that click to you from a straight tgp have less gay tgps to check out thus giving you less competition for the sale!

                                                                After you submit your sites, check your traffic after about a week or so, you will see loads of hits from those straight tgps (not as many as a straight gallery, but still valuable visits!)

                                                                Hope that helps!

                                                                Cheers,

                                                                Luke

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                                                                • Bladewire
                                                                  StraightBro
                                                                  • Aug 2003
                                                                  • 56220

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by DrewKole
                                                                  Who are you to give advise? Being gay doesn't mean you know shit about promoting it. =)

                                                                  And, by the feeble attempts at lies you've passed on here, I'd say thats the damned fucking truth.

                                                                  Get a life Lee and crew.
                                                                  A high post count doesn't give you authority or knowledge my friend. You need to drop the negative vibe and contribute something possitive here. You're not helping anyone.


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                                                                  • Bladewire
                                                                    StraightBro
                                                                    • Aug 2003
                                                                    • 56220

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by chilihost
                                                                    Holly, YES!!! submit your gay sites to straight tgps with gay categories. The main reasons:
                                                                    - do a search in any S.E. for some gay terms and see who comes up, its usually a mix of gay and straight sites.
                                                                    - MMF is a niche that attracts gay/straight/bi people. If they are searching for MMF on a tgp, they will likely also check out gay sites.
                                                                    - tgp surfers that are not out of the closet go to straight tgp sites
                                                                    - loads of women like checking out gay porn and they usually go to straight tgp sites. Its amazing how many women sign up for gay pay sites too.
                                                                    - surfers interested in gay galleries that click to you from a straight tgp have less gay tgps to check out thus giving you less competition for the sale!

                                                                    After you submit your sites, check your traffic after about a week or so, you will see loads of hits from those straight tgps (not as many as a straight gallery, but still valuable visits!)

                                                                    Hope that helps!

                                                                    Cheers,

                                                                    Luke


                                                                    The MMF to GAY is the transition Holly. You can go right from straight to Gay but for BEST results go straight MMF to Gay.


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                                                                    • Holly
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                      • 10017

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by Squirtit




                                                                      The MMF to GAY is the transition Holly. You can go right from straight to Gay but for BEST results go straight MMF to Gay.
                                                                      Thanks. Those are all good answers/reasons. I do see a lot of straight recips on the galleries that are listed on the gay tgps I submit to. I figured they must be benefiting from it, but sometimes I think they just load them up in their submitters and fire away. It's painfully obvious that some of them are from straight webmasters. I also love it when I see stuff like:
                                                                      www.big-titty-whores.com/whores/big-tits/gay-dick-suckers.html

                                                                      Those and 25 year old twinks with black hair all over them, are my favorites.
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                                                                      • DrewKole
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                                        • 5193

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by Squirtit


                                                                        A high post count doesn't give you authority or knowledge my friend. You need to drop the negative vibe and contribute something possitive here. You're not helping anyone.
                                                                        No thanks. =) And believe me, I'm one of the priveledged few that actually know what they're talking about. This is his Q & A session, I'll be the one with the negative vibe...

                                                                        You be the newbie who is trying to get off foodstamps.

                                                                        Cheers.

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                                                                        • Holly
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                                          • 10017

                                                                          #86
                                                                          Sooooooo much drama in this thread.

                                                                          War National Damn Champions Eagle

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                                                                          • Centurion
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Dec 2002
                                                                            • 6033

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by Stud Money


                                                                            Non what so ever, i havent worked for a company who has been marketing gay adult sites on the web for the last 8 years just as i dont help with the sites at Stud Money and just as i dont help out on http://www.gaywidewebmasters.com

                                                                            I also havent been taught by Gary-Alan for the last 12 months who doesnt happen to be affectionatly dubbed by his peers as the 'Gay Guru'.
                                                                            You've certainly been the eager beaver (whoops..sorry about that) over the past couple of weeks. Threads going everywhere. If I didnt' know better..would have thought you're trying to drum up business or something!

                                                                            So Gary-Alan is the "Gay Guru" eh? I must have missed the coronation ceremony.

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                                                                            • Centurion
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                              • 6033

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by Squirtit


                                                                              I don't doubt it .. your advice on here has been marginal at best
                                                                              MEOW! HISS HISS! (OR is that HIS HIS!)

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                                                                              • Centurion
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Dec 2002
                                                                                • 6033

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by Adorno



                                                                                Nearly every major gay traffic source out there, and most of the best converting gay sites on the market, are run by breeders.
                                                                                Well you just showed your total lack of knowledge about the gay market on the net! So VERY not true!

                                                                                And *I* do know..I've been in the gay market working it big time since 1996.

                                                                                Where do you come up with your conclusion from?

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                                                                                • Centurion
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                                  • 6033

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by Dawgy
                                                                                  heated debate is not the same as bashing, relax dood
                                                                                  Dang I got here too late. Rare to find good gay drama on here! (outside of lil2rich's posts of course! grin)

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                                                                                  • Centurion
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Dec 2002
                                                                                    • 6033

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Originally posted by chilihost
                                                                                    Holly, YES!!! submit your gay sites to straight tgps with gay categories. After you submit your sites, check your traffic after about a week or so, you will see loads of hits from those straight tgps (not as many as a straight gallery, but still valuable visits!)

                                                                                    Hope that helps!

                                                                                    Cheers,

                                                                                    Luke
                                                                                    Luke? LUKE? OMG!!! It *IS* you! The long lost man in my life is back!

                                                                                    I was wrong..you were right..can we make up and be..well, be what we were before?

                                                                                    You know there will never be another person in my life like you!

                                                                                    (Comeon..pretend it interests you..keep the drama alive! )

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                                                                                    • Dawgy
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                                      • 5856

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      centurion can u hit me up as well icq 1148977
                                                                                      the revolution is coming.

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                                                                                      • Bladewire
                                                                                        StraightBro
                                                                                        • Aug 2003
                                                                                        • 56220

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Originally posted by Holly
                                                                                        Sooooooo much drama in this thread.

                                                                                        Yeah unfortunately there are some that find it difficult to do business on the net without starting a "pissing" contest or "I know more then you do" attitude.

                                                                                        I'm here to help. Try what I told you and you'll see the results. Pretty basic. If you have difficulty or further questions feel free and ICQ me.


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                                                                                        • teomaxxx
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • May 2003
                                                                                          • 2737

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          i need to buy hight traffic spots from some gay TGPs.can you recommed some? Thanks.

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                                                                                          • Bladewire
                                                                                            StraightBro
                                                                                            • Aug 2003
                                                                                            • 56220

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Originally posted by Centurion


                                                                                            Luke? LUKE? OMG!!! It *IS* you! The long lost man in my life is back!

                                                                                            I was wrong..you were right..can we make up and be..well, be what we were before?

                                                                                            You know there will never be another person in my life like you!

                                                                                            (Comeon..pretend it interests you..keep the drama alive! )
                                                                                            And tonight at Comedy Central we have the GFY Band ...


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                                                                                            • vapewiz
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                                                              • 1530

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              And my question is:

                                                                                              If GA Media is making so much bank how come they don't pay programmers and designers?

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                                                                                              • Libertine
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                                                                                                • May 2002
                                                                                                • 17860

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Originally posted by Centurion


                                                                                                Well you just showed your total lack of knowledge about the gay market on the net! So VERY not true!

                                                                                                And *I* do know..I've been in the gay market working it big time since 1996.

                                                                                                Where do you come up with your conclusion from?
                                                                                                Not sure, but I remember reading somewhere that he owned a bunch of rather succesful gay sites, and has for quite a few years already.
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                                                                                                • nuvolenji
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                                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                                  • 118

                                                                                                  #98
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                                                                                                  • vapewiz
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                                                                                                    • Nov 2002
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                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    Originally posted by nuvolenji
                                                                                                    can you please send me a list of big gay tgps?
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                                                                                                    • woj
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                                                                                                      • Jul 2002
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                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      Originally posted by cutetwink
                                                                                                      And my question is:

                                                                                                      If GA Media is making so much bank how come they don't pay programmers and designers?
                                                                                                      great question, I was wondering that myself.
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