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  • rowan
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Mar 2002
    • 17393

    #1

    If you're promoting sweet18girls.com (cash4partners.com) through ccbill, read this

    Pick a hosted gal, click through to the site and try to join... there's no ccbill. Apparently their account has been closed. From what I can work out this happened up to 6 days ago, I haven't seen any notification from them, so until now I have been sending traffic as per usual.

    ccbill will still count the clicks, but you'll never get any sales so your ratio will just get worse and worse.
  • juicylinks
    So Fucking Banned
    • Apr 2001
    • 122992

    #2
    uh oh

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    • chowda
      Confirmed User
      • Jun 2003
      • 9527

      #3
      Originally posted by juicylinks
      uh oh
      speghetti-o's
      Someone finds you...
      2007

      PS: Nationalnet is the best host I've ever had. And i tried alot of them.

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      • eroswebmaster
        March 1st, 2003
        • Jul 2001
        • 20295

        #4
        Originally posted by rowan


        ccbill will still count the clicks, but you'll never get any sales so your ratio will just get worse and worse.
        Haha still worried about the ratio.
        For rent - ICQ 127-027-910
        Click here for more details

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        • HarlotCash Dyker
          Confirmed User
          • Sep 2003
          • 1828

          #5
          So use our hosted galleries or daily gallery links -
          You will get paid on time (65% or $30 joins)
          And ccbill aren't likely to switch us off as our cb ratio is 0.02% which is currently being matched by very few programmes - Why? We produce 100% our own content.
          Our members get several hundred high res top quality images every day.
          There isn't one upsell in any of our members area -
          We, in short, give what our members crave for, and plenty of it.
          !!!Harlot Cash<<>>Harlot Cash<<>>Harlot Cash<<>>Harlot Cash!!!

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          • justsexxx
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Aug 2001
            • 13723

            #6
            Originally posted by HarlotCash Dyker
            So use our hosted galleries or daily gallery links -
            You will get paid on time (65% or $30 joins)
            And ccbill aren't likely to switch us off as our cb ratio is 0.02% which is currently being matched by very few programmes - Why? We produce 100% our own content.
            Our members get several hundred high res top quality images every day.
            There isn't one upsell in any of our members area -
            We, in short, give what our members crave for, and plenty of it.
            Uhm, you have a teen site?
            Questions?

            ICQ: 125184542

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            • rowan
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Mar 2002
              • 17393

              #7
              Originally posted by eroswebmaster


              Haha still worried about the ratio.
              Normally it's not the ratio I use to decide what's working and what is not, but in this case it gives me a rough idea of how many sales I've missed out on.

              Ratio over the past 6 days (since the sales stopped) - 0:3064

              Ratio in the previous week - 1:326


              I've emailed them asking for an explanation, it will be interesting to see what they say. It really pisses me off that sponsors continue to accept traffic when they know that affiliates cannot be credited for it.

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              • justsexxx
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Aug 2001
                • 13723

                #8
                Originally posted by rowan


                Normally it's not the ratio I use to decide what's working and what is not, but in this case it gives me a rough idea of how many sales I've missed out on.

                Ratio over the past 6 days (since the sales stopped) - 0:3064

                Ratio in the previous week - 1:326

                1:326 is not bad with TGP traffic!
                Questions?

                ICQ: 125184542

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                • evildick

                  #9
                  Here's the join page:

                  http://www.sweet18girls.com/tour03/eng/join.php?bill=cb

                  Can you say shave-o-matic?

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                  • bugout
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jun 2002
                    • 540

                    #10
                    hehehe

                    try to pay by online check:

                    To all our clients, friends, enemies and Webmasters

                    What happend to others in this industry in the past happend to us today. What we think is an unfortunate example from Visa, we have been advised that our bank was instructed today to terminate our processing in order to avoid threatened fees in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.

                    Starting as of 1700 hours GMT time on 8th September 2003, we can not accept any more transactions for your website but the user management will be alive until the expiration of the last user subscription.

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                    • justsexxx
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Aug 2001
                      • 13723

                      #11
                      Originally posted by bugout
                      hehehe

                      try to pay by online check:

                      To all our clients, friends, enemies and Webmasters

                      What happend to others in this industry in the past happend to us today. What we think is an unfortunate example from Visa, we have been advised that our bank was instructed today to terminate our processing in order to avoid threatened fees in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.

                      Starting as of 1700 hours GMT time on 8th September 2003, we can not accept any more transactions for your website but the user management will be alive until the expiration of the last user subscription.
                      Jeez, when you shave do it good
                      Questions?

                      ICQ: 125184542

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                      • ludwik
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2001
                        • 71

                        #12
                        Originally posted by eroswebmaster


                        Haha still worried about the ratio.





                        hahaha, stupid gfy fuckers...

                        if they don't include your ref code on galleries then ccbill doesnt count hits!!

                        so your ratio is normal, just less hits
                        Last edited by ludwik; 10-13-2003, 07:03 AM.
                        40k tgp: http://www.clickhere4hardcore.com - i'm looking for some quality traffic traders with perm links

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                        • HarlotCash Dyker
                          Confirmed User
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 1828

                          #13
                          Uhm, you have a teen site?
                          Yes - www.kelly-dee.com

                          More coming very soon
                          !!!Harlot Cash<<>>Harlot Cash<<>>Harlot Cash<<>>Harlot Cash!!!

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                          • rowan
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Mar 2002
                            • 17393

                            #14
                            This was their response to another affiliate promoting them....


                            <i>"ccbill terminated our account on Friday with no prior warning and we have also no information about why they have done so. You can contact them directly in case you should not believe me. Right now we are waiting for an explanation on why it has been terminated and if they are willing to reactivate it. You can hit me on ICQ at 210613837 if you want.

                            This is as bad news for us as for you, but at the moment there's nothing we can do about it."</i>


                            Still doesn't change the fact that they didn't notify ccbill affiliates that they were switching processors.

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                            • rowan
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Mar 2002
                              • 17393

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ludwik

                              hahaha, stupid gfy fuckers...

                              if they don't include your ref code on galleries then ccbill doesnt count hits!!

                              so your ratio is normal, just less hits
                              I read this a few times and I still have NFI what you are talking about. How can my ccbill affiliate ratio be normal when by definition there cannot be any signups via ccbill?

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                              • AssFairy
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 674

                                #16
                                F****k

                                I was converting them at about 1:160, 6 days of traffic completely wasted and the thumbnails alone burned up over 3 gigs of bandwidth, oh well
                                I sale lube

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                                • AssFairy
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jun 2003
                                  • 674

                                  #17
                                  Double F****K

                                  I guess we all lose out on the rebills too, this is starting to suck
                                  I sale lube

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                                  • AssFairy
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jun 2003
                                    • 674

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by evildick
                                    Here's the join page:

                                    http://www.sweet18girls.com/tour03/eng/join.php?bill=cb

                                    Can you say shave-o-matic?
                                    Triple F****K

                                    You mean they were "stealing" my surfers for 6 days and making good signups from them, I can take a joke but now I want compensation for their lack of communication or I will never sponsor them again GRRRRRRRRRRRR
                                    I sale lube

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                                    • rowan
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Mar 2002
                                      • 17393

                                      #19
                                      <i>Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:16:39 UT
                                      From: [email protected]
                                      To: ******
                                      Subject: sweet18girls.com news

                                      Dear Affiliate,

                                      we are very sorry to announce that the sweet18girls.com affiliate program has
                                      been closed as of today due to the circumstance that we are no longer using ccbill.com as the processing company for this site.

                                      Please aplolgize for the incovienves this might cause. If you have any questions please feel free to contact us at [email protected]

                                      Thank you very much for your understanding

                                      http://www.cash4partners.com</i>




                                      "... as of today ..." don't they mean as of a week ago, we've been enjoying your free traffic with our new biller?

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                                      • AssFairy
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jun 2003
                                        • 674

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by rowan
                                        <i>

                                        "... as of today ..." don't they mean as of a week ago, we've been enjoying your free traffic with our new biller?
                                        That sux the big one, I don't mind sponsors going belly up but I'm not happy about them "making money" from my surfers and leaving me to foot the bandwidth and hosting bills just because their lazy asses couldn't be bothered to mail me.

                                        If they don't give out fair compensation they will be branded thieves and cheats.
                                        I sale lube

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                                        • xdcdave
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Feb 2003
                                          • 1911

                                          #21
                                          that is such a low fucking move burn in hell, you give all small sponsors a bad name.

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                                          • rowan
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Mar 2002
                                            • 17393

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by AssFairy
                                            Double F****K

                                            I guess we all lose out on the rebills too, this is starting to suck
                                            How long were you promoting them for? I've just realised my first sale was exactly a month ago, which means that I've made only a single $14.97 amount from each signup. Derate the effective rate by 25% because they were not paying for one week out of the four, and you end up with $11.23 per signup.

                                            One thing I am a little concerned about... if they don't handle their existing ccbill customers properly then it's possible they may request a refund or charge back, which will impact on affiliates in the coming months. That $11.23 average signup value could still decrease.

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                                            • pamphage
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jan 2003
                                              • 3569

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by rowan
                                              Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:16:39 UT
                                              From: [email protected]
                                              To: ******
                                              Subject: sweet18girls.com news

                                              Dear Affiliate,

                                              we are very sorry to announce that the sweet18girls.com affiliate program has
                                              been closed as of today due to the circumstance that we are no longer using ccbill.com as the processing company for this site.




                                              but WHY did ccbill close down their site? it looks perfectly reasonable to me.



                                              SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR.
                                              Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.
                                              Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

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                                              • SGS
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Dec 2002
                                                • 5176

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by HarlotCash Dyker


                                                Yes - www.kelly-dee.com

                                                More coming very soon
                                                Good looking site
                                                See sig...

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                                                • AssFairy
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                  • 674

                                                  #25
                                                  Only been promoting them for just over a month, sales were good so I put them on 3 different domains, crap knows how much traffic I sent them over the past 6 days because I started redirecting traffic from other domains to t thumbnail page, one site of the 3 burned up over 3 gigs on the thumbnails so they must have had plenty of my traffic.
                                                  I sale lube

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                                                  • pamphage
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jan 2003
                                                    • 3569

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by SGS


                                                    Good looking site
                                                    she hardly looks teen though. more like 23 or 24
                                                    SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR.
                                                    Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.
                                                    Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

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                                                    • Braincash Fred
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jul 2002
                                                      • 1589

                                                      #27
                                                      Promote www.christineyoung.com instead

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                                                      • pamphage
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jan 2003
                                                        • 3569

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Braincash Fred
                                                        Promote www.christineyoung.com instead

                                                        ok now SHE looks teen
                                                        SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR.
                                                        Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.
                                                        Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

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                                                        • rowan
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • Mar 2002
                                                          • 17393

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by pamphage

                                                          but WHY did ccbill close down their site? it looks perfectly reasonable to me.
                                                          That's what I am wondering. The program isn't old enough to have any major processing compliance issues so it must be something else, perhaps something to do with the content.

                                                          It's a real pity this happened, because they had a shitload of hosted galleries and I was just ramping up my traffic to them after determining that they were going to work well with my site.

                                                          BTW, did anyone else notice that some of the hosted galleries 404'd the last image? Clicking on the last "X" thumb redirected to sweet18girls.com, which meant no affiliate cookie was set... it was quickly fixed when I pointed this out but given this latest fiasco I'm not entirely sure it was accidental.

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                                                          • BrentD
                                                            ZothNET.com
                                                            • May 2003
                                                            • 1426

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Braincash Fred
                                                            Promote www.christineyoung.com instead



                                                            webmaster/affiliate link?
                                                            n/m found it disregard this post
                                                            THIS FORUM SUCKS - RUDE ASS IDIOTS!!!

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                                                            • Braincash Fred
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                              • 1589

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by rowan


                                                              That's what I am wondering. The program isn't old enough to have any major processing compliance issues so it must be something else, perhaps something to do with the content.

                                                              It's a real pity this happened, because they had a shitload of hosted galleries and I was just ramping up my traffic to them after determining that they were going to work well with my site.

                                                              BTW, did anyone else notice that some of the hosted galleries 404'd the last image? Clicking on the last "X" thumb redirected to sweet18girls.com, which meant no affiliate cookie was set... it was quickly fixed when I pointed this out but given this latest fiasco I'm not entirely sure it was accidental.
                                                              Use Christine... we got tones of hosted and she convert like crazy

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                                                              • caspuh
                                                                Registered User
                                                                • Oct 2003
                                                                • 56

                                                                #32
                                                                on kelly-dee "acces" is spelled wrong for the signup image.

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