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10-11-2003, 06:53 PM

Hey, have any of you paid Acacia for apparently violating their patents?

I'm still trying to figure out what it is that they claim to have patent on.

If I offer audio/vidoes on linux server to customer without any type of streaming, then Acacia has nothing on me from what I understand.

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10-11-2003, 06:56 PM

Im not violating their patents...
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10-11-2003, 06:56 PM

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10-11-2003, 06:57 PM

Originally posted by tonkagunner

If I offer audio/vidoes on linux server to customer without any type of streaming, then Acacia has nothing on me from what I understand.

using an Apache http server to allow people to download an audio or video file is what they claim their patent to mean.

learn more at http://www.FightThePatent.com

Just by what you wrote, i would say that you would be considered to infringing on their patents.

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10-11-2003, 06:58 PM

also read through this thread:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...1&pagenumber=1

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10-11-2003, 07:08 PM

very interesting. It seems that lots of crazy ideas for patents are getting approved. I heard one company patented peanut butter & jelly sandwhiches without crust. And someone patented name your price online also.

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10-11-2003, 08:36 PM

No.. and I won't be paying a bunch of retards marinated in legal bullshit whether any court orders it or not - fuck their supposed patents!

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10-11-2003, 09:30 PM

Originally posted by FightThisPatent

using an Apache http server to allow people to download an audio or video file is what they claim their patent to mean.

learn more at http://www.FightThePatent.com

Just by what you wrote, i would say that you would be considered to infringing on their patents.

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Apache http server...

what if you use windows server
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10-12-2003, 05:30 AM

Originally posted by MrPheer

Apache http server...

what if you use windows server

i am sure the unix-heads would want you to pay double....

(i run IIS servers for the last 5 years).

Any kind of HTTP server or FTP server would assist in the delivery of an audio or video file, therefore infringing on Acacia's claims.

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10-12-2003, 05:35 AM

Sponsors and Content Producers, I am creating an email for you to present my observations about your issues with Acacia's patent (ie. licensing). While I can't give you a definitive answer to do or don't license it, I can give you some things to consider when making your personal and professional decision.

I have had several already contact me, and I feel it is good informaiton to share in email, rather than posting.

I will be starting a campaign this week to contact all Content Producers and Sponsors... if you want to get on the list faster to receive my thoughts on these issues, email me at:

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10-12-2003, 05:37 AM

Originally posted by tonkagunner

I'm still trying to figure out what it is that they claim to have patent on.

They own the patent on being gay

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10-12-2003, 07:18 AM

Originally posted by Webby
No.. and I won't be paying a bunch of retards marinated in legal bullshit whether any court orders it or not - fuck their supposed patents!

Injunction junction what's your malfunction.
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10-12-2003, 10:02 AM

Anyone heard of patents being overturned or invalidated?

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10-12-2003, 10:06 AM

yes, acacias other big patent on the vchip stuff got shot down. but they act like they won.

Ever notice that pretty much everything added to the Constitution after the original was a mistake.
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10-12-2003, 10:07 AM

And where are all of these dodgy patents coming from?
Europe? Asia?
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I ask you - How the fuck can you even patent a word like playboy that was in common use in the OED long before Hefner even went to school?
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10-12-2003, 11:16 AM

NO

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10-12-2003, 11:40 AM

Originally posted by rooster
yes, acacias other big patent on the vchip stuff got shot down. but they act like they won.

This is because they managed to get most big companies (we mean BIG here) to settle with sweetheart licenses. Much like they are doing now with hustler/vivid.
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10-12-2003, 12:39 PM

goBigtime:

Injunction junction what's your malfunction.

Injunction??

Na, no hope in hell of any injuction. "We" don't recognized any court that may possibly grant an injunction - we just observe the laws where we are based and the one thing any court here won't listen to is Acacia's "claims" :-)

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10-12-2003, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by tonkagunner
Anyone heard of patents being overturned or invalidated?

I saw a stat somewhere that said that companies sueing to inforce their patent win 48% of the time....

probably what happens is prior art turns up and the claims get invalidated......

so it comes down to the same probability of winning in court as it is with a toss of coin...... given that as the beginning odds and the fact that prior art does exist...i say the odds are looking really good for the defendants to win.

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10-12-2003, 02:58 PM

Originally posted by rooster
yes, acacias other big patent on the vchip stuff got shot down. but they act like they won.

yup, patent got slammed.. but that was before they collected like $27M+ in licensing fees.. so these guys know the drill, already perfected it with the V-Chip, so they are executing the same plan... looks like it is working on the big boys.. but not working on the smaller guys who are taking a stand.

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10-12-2003, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by Oracle Porn
Im not violating their patents...

Me neither
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10-12-2003, 03:05 PM

Originally posted by WiredGuy

Me neither
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One webmaster thought he wasn't violating acacia's patent claims either because he didn't have any video on his website, but had links to a video gallery that he licensed or linked to for free.

I had to inform him that according to Acacia, he is a contributory infringer, and that they could go after him....

So if you don't link to any websites that have audio or video AND you don't have any audio or video on your website (this includes flash and director files), then you may be in the clear.

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10-12-2003, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by FightThisPatent
One webmaster thought he wasn't violating acacia's patent claims either because he didn't have any video on his website, but had links to a video gallery that he licensed or linked to for free.

I link only to sponsors and most of those sponsors have settled. I am more than confident I am in compliance but I do agree on fighting this patent.

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10-12-2003, 06:27 PM

Originally posted by WiredGuy
I link only to sponsors and most of those sponsors have settled. I am more than confident I am in compliance but I do agree on fighting this patent.

You operate out of Canada, no? How are you out of compliance to begin with?
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10-12-2003, 06:32 PM

Originally posted by Suckitbitch
You operate out of Canada, no? How are you out of compliance to begin with?

I do not have or link to any online videos (or pics for that matter). I run an SEO company and simply redirect traffic from SE's to sponsors. Additionally, most of those sponsors have settled with Acacia. For these reasons, I have belief I am in compliance. But like I said, I do want this patent overturned.

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10-13-2003, 10:29 PM

Great thread title ...
awesome ...

If you have paid Acacia what exactly does their monthly sales report form look like?

Show me what I will be required to report....
if I choose to have video again?
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10-13-2003, 10:46 PM

sexeducation:

Show me what I will be required to report....
if I choose to have video again?

What video would that be??? I got copies of all the other child porn on your website, but missed the video.

Can you let me have a copy please and I'll forward it on to the same place I sent your website??

BTW.. Was this another stolen video like the rest of the images or did you actually pay for this child porn???

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10-13-2003, 10:54 PM

Originally posted by WiredGuy

I link only to sponsors and most of those sponsors have settled. I am more than confident I am in compliance but I do agree on fighting this patent.

WG

This was posted on another board and is relevent.

Originally posted by
Well like I said just think long and hard because the more money they make the more money Acacia gets from them. Which means that they have more money to pay their attorneys.

Very true, even if they make you more money, you could be just shooting yourself in the foot.

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10-13-2003, 10:58 PM

Also somewhere else but again a very good point.

You know I find it a real shame that the companies that are signing with Acacia still have affiliates promoting them. I also find it a shame that when it is all said and done they will be minus a few thousand dollars but will still be a company. The people that are choosing to fight the patent are willing to risk no longer having a business "if" Acacia should win. Think about that for a minute. The companies that are signing on the bottom line are probably hoping that Acacia does win because guess what, it will virtually eliminate all their competition due to the exhorbitant back royalties and interest paid.

Is there any way to find out who is investing in Acacia? Is there a public list of stockholders anywhere. I would be curious as to who in our sector is helping these pricks bankroll their fight. They only had 19k in license fees collected for the 2nd quarter of 2003. That's not enough to pay their attorneys for a week. So, something tells me they are receiving financial support elsewhere. Either that or their attornies are working free..

What will be interesting is to see how much Hustler, Vivid and Wicked are paying. Just see what the next quarters revenus is.

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