I was eating dinner, I do not sit on gfy 24/7 sorry;-)
Each of us draw the line where we feel comfortable. I have no problem with our site, or the images contained on it. All of our websites have been approved by our legal council.
Our "school" girl site, the girls look 21, not even 18, lol. Not going to split hairs here. The images speak for themselves.
The would you let your daughter do porn question kinda bothers me and here's why. I have two girls and I hope to hell they never even have their picture taken for Playboy let alone end up on some porn site. BUT, I make my living working in a business that relys on girls and women letting us take their pictures naked and having sex. Does that make Lensman and me and the rest of you that wouldn't want your daughters doing porn hypocrites?
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BTW Lens, that site has been up for 2 years, you are a bit slow to point it out;-) I will continue to hammer Steve, sorry. I know you guys are tight and party togather. The Attorney General of Michigan did not think my models could be under 18...........
Originally posted by The Hammer The would you let your daughter do porn question kinda bothers me and here's why. I have two girls and I hope to hell they never even have their picture taken for Playboy let alone end up on some porn site. BUT, I make my living working in a business that relys on girls and women letting us take their pictures naked and having sex. Does that make Lensman and me and the rest of you that wouldn't want your daughters doing porn hypocrites?
i would think so. But I really don't think any father in his right mind would think so. Does that comput?
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$10 programs are too early, and will not and have not make a splash. I said it when they were released, once again I am right.
The word "young". Do not even get me started, you are grasping at straws here Lens for your helpless friend. I would be you I can find that word in tours of just about every program. I have no plans to remove it.
BTW, we have over 100 websites, I own the company, and I am responsible in the end for everything. I have no problem with that. We had a teen site in 1998, way back. There were images on that tour (legal 18+), that I would no longer even think of using.
Originally posted by BradShaw IOur "school" girl site, the girls look 21, not even 18, lol. Not going to split hairs here. The images speak for themselves.
Originally posted by BradShaw
Our "school" girl site, the girls look 21, not even 18, lol. Not going to split hairs here. The images speak for themselves.
Hypocrisy and playahatin at it's finest.....Who gives a flying fuck if the girl looks 21 or 18?....The term "school girl" implies girls 18 and BELOW...When a girl is 21, you call her a "coed".......
Just admit it and be a man...Jesus, I wish more people had the fucking balls to admit something....I have no apologies for my actions and neither should you....
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my two cents, theres a bit of a difference between a blurb of text on a cookie cutter paysite with girls that dont look young, and building ones whole business on a foundation of a girl that is 18 and looks 16.
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Anyone who follows my posts KNOWS I don't just endorse people at random. If I can slam someone I do, and i don't really hesitate for ANYONE in that regard - from newbie to fantasyman or lensman.
Steve Jones (lightspeed) is a man that I have a LOT of respect for. He gives back to the webmaster community more than most companies 10X his size and is a GENUINE person who wears his heart on his sleve. I personally know many of his top affiliates and they ALL say his programs ROCK. I am HONORED to refer to him and the people of his crew as FRIENDs and I only humbully hope they think of me the same way.
As for the child porn shit that brad is talking about - it's all BULLSHIT. The law says 18 - and Steve has nothing but girls that are 18+ on his sites. He portrays them as such too, as some 18 year olds ARE still in high school - so some sets are of that nature. If he were to portray them as in elementry school I'd have a problem but Steve DOESN'T do that. I see NOTHING wrong with his business practices or how he shows his models. Lightspeed is a FIRST class operation.
Now for Brad Shaw, I've never met the man but I can say that I see that he shows a lot of hate. It's a horrible way to live and I truly feel sorry for Brad.
A great man died in Winnipeg (my city) the other day - Issy Asper, age 71. A world class billionaire, Isy had a saying. If you want money give it away. He donated MILLIONS to different charities in Winnipeg and against the advise of his acohahahahaants he often did it before he was financially ready to do it. Why? - because although Issy didn't use these exact terms Issy did believe in something like KARMA. He felt that everything he did would come back to him, and it did 10,000X over. So Issy would give millions and then go make his business deals and make Billions.
Steve is the porn world's equivalant of Isy Asper. Brad should take a lesson from that as Steve's examples are something to look up to, and aspire to.
My guess is that Brad's hatred towards lightspeed probally stems from Brad attempting a knockoff of some of lightspeeds programs that didn't work and now he's bitter about it and lashing out.
Steve - don't listen to this bitter asshole Brad. I truly believe you are a great man with an even greater destiny ahead of you. I simply feel sorry for Brad as his hatred has clouded his vision and he doesn't see the big picture.
Given the choice of a roll model, I publically state that I aspire to be more like Steve Jones.
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Understand one thing about me. I can handle the heat. I understand if you sling shit, you better be able to handle it. I can. and I am not going anywhere.
My point has never been about text, my point with Lightspeed was that the girls are dressed to look YOUNG. To appear younger than the actually are, in my opinion. It is their business model.
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Originally posted by BradShaw Understand one thing about me. I can handle the heat. I understand if you sling shit, you better be able to handle it. I can. and I am not going anywhere.
My point has never been about text, my point with Lightspeed was that the girls are dressed to look YOUNG. To appear younger than the actually are, in my opinion. It is their business model.
ok, then lets work this through and see if you're full of shit or not.
I say you are.
what does an 18 year old look and dress like?
What does a 16 year old look and dress like?
what are the differences?
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I have never accused Steve Jones of child porn, that's a HUGE jump. I have accused him of poor judgment, not child porn. I have accused him of catering to pedophiles in my opinion.
BTW, I do not want people to look up to me, I could care a less. I state my opinion, for the sake of being one of the few straight shooters in this business whose wallet has not forsaken his mouth.
Lens thought he had a real bomb here, looks like the bomb squad has showed up. Lens, I tried to look at your sites, but many of your urls were jacked and went to the lez $10 tour, may want to check that out.
$10 programs are too early, and will not and have not make a splash. I said it when they were released, once again I am right.
I disagree. $10 porn is right on time. Those "changes" you were taking about in your interview make $10 programs a necessity! Our program isnt making a splash, its flooding!
lmao.. wow i forgot this site was in our repertoire of sites..... too bad it never converted worth a shit.. must be the 25 year olds in costume .. glad we never built our entire business model on this... I would be back at the Wendy's window
Originally posted by BradShaw I have never accused Steve Jones of child porn, that's a HUGE jump. I have accused him of poor judgment, not child porn. I have accused him of catering to pedophiles in my opinion.
to be correct, I never assused Brad of saying Steve commited child porn, my EXACT words were ' the child porn shit that brad is talking about"
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ok, then lets work this through and see if you're full of shit or not.
I say you are.
what does an 18 year old look and dress like?
What does a 16 year old look and dress like?
what are the differences?
Sleazy, I am not going to split hairs. This accomplishes nothing.I have my opinion of Steve's business model. We are not talking 18 looking like 17 here............ I think many of you here need to either hire a lawyer, or speak to a lawyer who deals in this business. They would explain to you, that images of 19 year old girls who are dressed to look 15 is not wise.
I disagree. $10 porn is right on time. Those "changes" you were taking about in your interview make $10 programs a necessity! Our program isnt making a splash, its flooding!
I judge whats hot or not by whats in my spam box. Do not think I have seen a spam for a $10 site. Mailers are the smartest SOB's at making $ and converting sites........They mail what makes the most $.
Originally posted by gregtx lmao.. wow i forgot this site was in our repertoire of sites..... too bad it never converted worth a shit.. must be the 25 year olds in costume .. glad we never built our entire business model on this... I would be back at the Wendy's window
Greg, do I still look 18? Think I could market ChatRoom Romeo to Catholic Priests?
I judge whats hot or not by whats in my spam box. Do not think I have seen a spam for a $10 site. Mailers are the smartest SOB's at making $ and converting sites........They mail what makes the most $.
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