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10-09-2003, 03:01 PM

Once again my ass was in a sling but I know somehow...some way, I'll get out of the situation with hardly a scratch....

First...I got a nice plea on my domestic violence case from 1st degree to 4th degree "menacing" , where I can get it expunged within a year...I gotta pay 180 in fines and court costs..no probation..

And now with a year and a half of bullshit, where she was about to order a psychological evalution of me, where it would have cost thousands of dollars, and the trial set for Jan 16 with my wife getting nothing more than two hours on supervised visitation, my wife FINALLY came to her senses and was willing to cut a deal....The kids will live in her state for nine months and in my state for three...I'll get mostly all of the holidays and here's the best part...I'll be paying NO CHILD SUPPORT! NO SPOUSAL SUPPORT! NO "HALF" OF MY BUSINESS! There will be no courts in my finances and I can go back to laying low in the background..So instead of facing a grip in child support, I can spend it driving to her state every other week and renting a little spot up there so that I can find a few bitches up there for the site....The beef between me and her and her mama is finished and I'm welcome to come around the kids and her family in her state...And we get joint custody so there is no one person who is the "custodial" parent! So I can still claim them for all kinds of benefits!!!

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10-09-2003, 03:02 PM

You beat her?

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10-09-2003, 03:03 PM

That's great news.

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10-09-2003, 03:04 PM

Why is child support bad?

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10-09-2003, 03:06 PM

pay child support you fucker!
not because you have to, but because you want to!
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10-09-2003, 03:06 PM

Some things should be private business.
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10-09-2003, 03:08 PM

The kids will live in her state for nine months and in my state for three

here's the best part...I'll be paying NO CHILD SUPPORT!

And we get joint custody so there is no one person who is the "custodial" parent! So I can still claim them for all kinds of benefits!!!

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10-09-2003, 03:08 PM

Why do men see paying child support in a negative light?

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10-09-2003, 03:13 PM

In some relationships you pay the support and she spends it all on clothes, getting her hair done, going to the gym, etc., and then you still have to fork out the money to buy the kids the stuff they need.

Before you crucify him, consider the fact that things sometimes work out better when you can spend the money directly on the kids instead of giving it to the mother first.
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10-09-2003, 03:17 PM

Originally posted by evildick
In some relationships you pay the support and she spends it all on clothes, getting her hair done, going to the gym, etc., and then you still have to fork out the money to buy the kids the stuff they need.

Before you crucify him, consider the fact that things sometimes work out better when you can spend the money directly on the kids instead of giving it to the mother first.

exactly....instead of paying 1,200 a month in support to a bitter woman...now I get to save that money and spend it on getting a separate crib in her state...If I was paying support along with only getting once a week on the phone and every other weekend, I wouldn't be able to go there and have a healthy relationship...Now the woman isn't bitter, I can spend my money on all of them...We just went to swensons today and she's sitting here wearing the Pornkings t-shirt and we're about to order pizza....So there is a God...

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10-09-2003, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by evildick
In some relationships you pay the support and she spends it all on clothes, getting her hair done, going to the gym, etc., and then you still have to fork out the money to buy the kids the stuff they need.

Before you crucify him, consider the fact that things sometimes work out better when you can spend the money directly on the kids instead of giving it to the mother first.

my thoughts exactly.. in alot of cases involving child support, you're basically paying for her expenses and not the kid.
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10-09-2003, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by BVF
Once again my ass was in a sling but I know somehow...some way, I'll get out of the situation with hardly a scratch....

First...I got a nice plea on my domestic violence case from 1st degree to 4th degree "menacing" , where I can get it expunged within a year...I gotta pay 180 in fines and court costs..no probation..

And now with a year and a half of bullshit, where she was about to order a psychological evalution of me, where it would have cost thousands of dollars, and the trial set for Jan 16 with my wife getting nothing more than two hours on supervised visitation, my wife FINALLY came to her senses and was willing to cut a deal....The kids will live in her state for nine months and in my state for three...I'll get mostly all of the holidays and here's the best part...I'll be paying NO CHILD SUPPORT! NO SPOUSAL SUPPORT! NO "HALF" OF MY BUSINESS! There will be no courts in my finances and I can go back to laying low in the background..So instead of facing a grip in child support, I can spend it driving to her state every other week and renting a little spot up there so that I can find a few bitches up there for the site....The beef between me and her and her mama is finished and I'm welcome to come around the kids and her family in her state...And we get joint custody so there is no one person who is the "custodial" parent! So I can still claim them for all kinds of benefits!!!

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10-09-2003, 03:19 PM

Originally posted by BVF
Once again my ass was in a sling but I know somehow...some way, I'll get out of the situation with hardly a scratch....

First...I got a nice plea on my domestic violence case from 1st degree to 4th degree "menacing" , where I can get it expunged within a year...I gotta pay 180 in fines and court costs..no probation..

And now with a year and a half of bullshit, where she was about to order a psychological evalution of me, where it would have cost thousands of dollars, and the trial set for Jan 16 with my wife getting nothing more than two hours on supervised visitation, my wife FINALLY came to her senses and was willing to cut a deal....The kids will live in her state for nine months and in my state for three...I'll get mostly all of the holidays and here's the best part...I'll be paying NO CHILD SUPPORT! NO SPOUSAL SUPPORT! NO "HALF" OF MY BUSINESS! There will be no courts in my finances and I can go back to laying low in the background..So instead of facing a grip in child support, I can spend it driving to her state every other week and renting a little spot up there so that I can find a few bitches up there for the site....The beef between me and her and her mama is finished and I'm welcome to come around the kids and her family in her state...And we get joint custody so there is no one person who is the "custodial" parent! So I can still claim them for all kinds of benefits!!!

The Lord is good!

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I can't believe people like you come on here and post shit about how lucky you are because you get to SCREW over your KIDS!!!
And that You get them as a TAX right off!!!
Your kids arent a Benifit MAn!!! They arent a Financial tool They are Liveing flesh!!!!
And when you say you are going to drive up to her state.... You didnt even say I can save the $$ to drive up and rent a little place for me and the kids to play for the few days I am up there!!
YOu said!! I cqan rent a place so I can film more fucking porn instead of spending time with my kids!!!!

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10-09-2003, 03:19 PM

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Why do men see paying child support in a negative light?

Would you like to have a kid with me, let me have him/her and pay me $600 a month for the next 18 years?
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10-09-2003, 03:25 PM

Fuck child support, get a job you lazy bitch.
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10-09-2003, 03:28 PM

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Would you like to have a kid with me, let me have him/her and pay me $600 a month for the next 18 years?

If you don't wanna pay for your kids. Keep your dick in your pants.
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10-09-2003, 03:30 PM

Let this serve as a lesson to all.

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10-09-2003, 03:31 PM

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If you don't wanna pay for your kids. Keep your dick in your pants.

Just as a women should keep her legs closed if she doesnt want to pay for her kids.
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10-09-2003, 03:32 PM

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Would you like to have a kid with me, let me have him/her and pay me $600 a month for the next 18 years?

that's going on the assumption he only nets $500/month right ??

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10-09-2003, 03:33 PM

There's a different between being a dead-beat dad not paying child support, and an active father not paying child support. BVF seems like the latter to me.

You people are crazy. The guy has SPLIT CUSTODY of his kids. That means each parent is responsible for the kids equally. Why should someone in a SPLIT CUSTODY situation have to pay for EVERYTHING?

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10-09-2003, 03:33 PM

Originally posted by ThunderBalls

Just as a women should keep her legs closed if she doesnt want to pay for her kids.

I think it's a little different when people are married and think they're going to be together until death do us part. They don't PLAN on getting a divorce and having to worry about child support. I guess everyone should just have a contingency plan as soon as they pop the question.. just in case

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10-09-2003, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
There's a different between being a dead-beat dad not paying child support, and an active father not paying child support. BVF seems like the latter to me.

You people are crazy. The guy has SPLIT CUSTODY of his kids. That means each parent is responsible for the kids equally. Why should someone in a SPLIT CUSTODY situation have to pay for EVERYTHING?

Yes.. if he's sharing the custody, if he's taking an active part, he likely doesn't need to pay it, because he's going to provide for anything the children need and more ANYWAYS...

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10-09-2003, 03:34 PM

My mom works for child support, more than 70% of the time, the kids aren't seeing any of the money, or even worse the other parent figures they can live off child support alone so they don't get real jobs and the kids suffer living in poverty. If the dad is willing to spend the time and money on his kids without the government forcing him to, i think it will ultimately benefit the kids more than child support.
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10-09-2003, 03:34 PM

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she's sitting here wearing the Pornkings t-shirt ...

you let your kid wear a pornkings tshirt? no offense to pornkings but i think she should be wearing a pokemon shirt or something... not a porn tshirt.

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10-09-2003, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by ThunderBalls

Just as a women should keep her legs closed if she doesnt want to pay for her kids.

I agree. It's a two way road.

BOTH should pay for the kids. If one of them don't wanna pay for the kids, he/she is just a fucking loser.
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10-09-2003, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by beemk

you let your kid wear a pornkings tshirt? no offense to pornkings but i think she should be wearing a pokemon shirt or something... not a porn tshirt.

I think he ment his ex.
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10-09-2003, 03:39 PM

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I agree. It's a two way road.

BOTH should pay for the kids. If one of them don't wanna pay for the kids, he/she is just a fucking loser.

I've seen too many women sit and give their child support money to their new boyfriends, snort it, smoke it, or drink it away. Child support sure as shit doesn't ensure anything for a child. Active parenting from BOTH parents, even when seperated, does

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10-09-2003, 03:40 PM

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10-09-2003, 03:42 PM

Originally posted by LadyMischief

I think it's a little different when people are married and think they're going to be together until death do us part. They don't PLAN on getting a divorce and having to worry about child support. I guess everyone should just have a contingency plan as soon as they pop the question.. just in case

I agree but the point I was trying to make is for some reason people have the assumption that when things don't work out the guy automatically should be the one to pay for everything and then some.

I have my kid 4 days a week and some people have a problem with the fact that I don't pay child support because my income is ten times what my ex makes. Women also have a responsibility, fortunately courts are starting to realize that.
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10-09-2003, 03:42 PM

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10-09-2003, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by ThunderBalls

I agree but the point I was trying to make is for some reason people have the assumption that when things don't work out the guy automatically should be the one to pay for everything and then some.

I have my kid 4 days a week and some people have a problem with the fact that I don't pay child support because my income is ten times what my ex makes. Women also have a responsibility, fortunately courts are starting to realize that.

Yep I have a friend who shares custody and time with his son and doesn't pay either.. He and his ex share the cost equally for medical things, etc etc.. I think it works out great.. Women SHOULD have some responsibility too, however, one must consider her situation. It's NOT always easier for a woman to take 4 kids say and put them into daycare.. Sometimes it's so expensive it completely negates all reason for going out to get a job, because daycare costs more than she could make.. In those kinds of cases, it's hard to point fingers..

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10-09-2003, 03:48 PM

Originally posted by LadyMischief

Yep I have a friend who shares custody and time with his son and doesn't pay either.. He and his ex share the cost equally for medical things, etc etc.. I think it works out great.. Women SHOULD have some responsibility too, however, one must consider her situation. It's NOT always easier for a woman to take 4 kids say and put them into daycare.. Sometimes it's so expensive it completely negates all reason for going out to get a job, because daycare costs more than she could make.. In those kinds of cases, it's hard to point fingers..

True. But if you have 4 kids and get divorced you're fucked whether you're male or female
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10-09-2003, 03:48 PM

Originally posted by THE WISEMAN

Yes you are right the Lord is good!!!
And you are a piece of shit worthless fuck!!!
I can't believe people like you come on here and post shit about how lucky you are because you get to SCREW over your KIDS!!!
And that You get them as a TAX right off!!!
Your kids arent a Benifit MAn!!! They arent a Financial tool They are Liveing flesh!!!!
And when you say you are going to drive up to her state.... You didnt even say I can save the $$ to drive up and rent a little place for me and the kids to play for the few days I am up there!!
YOu said!! I cqan rent a place so I can film more fucking porn instead of spending time with my kids!!!!

Fuck YOU PRICK!!!!
I hope your kids grow up to hate you and realize what a Fuck you are!!!

How the fuck do you think the kids got taken care of so far? It's because I willingly open up my wallet...And I will continue to willingly open my wallet...IF you're trying to say that I can't take care of my children unless I have child support charging me an exorbitant amount of money, then you're a fucking fool...

get a life man...I don't have to rent a place for my kids to play at because in my original post, the beef is squashed between me and her family so I will be able to come around them and to their houses at my choosing..that means thanksgiving dinners, chillin out, etc....so I don't need a place for them to play at...

You didn't read my post at all...you read a few lines and had an aneurism....I love my children and i've been fighting for them for a year and a half...I've had them on my own for the past three months and it ripped me up to know that they will be gone...but now the bitterness is ended, I can spend time on them...

Don't get mad at me because YOU'RE getting reamed by the system....Quit playahatin on someone who made it up out of the shit...

and my EX is wearing the pornkings shirt...not my child..man some of you need to focus on reading comprehension..

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10-09-2003, 03:51 PM

Originally posted by LadyMischief

I've seen too many women sit and give their child support money to their new boyfriends, snort it, smoke it, or drink it away. Child support sure as shit doesn't ensure anything for a child. Active parenting from BOTH parents, even when seperated, does

one of my very close friends had a situation like that. the bitch was using all the money on drugs and bullshit. she wasn't working. the kids didn't even have clean fucking clothes, and barely any food. and they were raping him to support her drug habit.

she finally crossed the line 1 too many times i guess (they let her get away with ANYTHING, including several neglect charges). he finally got his kids.

i was VERY pleased about that.

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10-09-2003, 03:52 PM

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True. But if you have 4 kids and get divorced you're fucked whether you're male or female

Unfortunately shit does happen though. I've seen it happen to some good people over time

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10-09-2003, 03:55 PM

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one of my very close friends had a situation like that. the bitch was using all the money on drugs and bullshit. she wasn't working. the kids didn't even have clean fucking clothes, and barely any food. and they were raping him to support her drug habit.

she finally crossed the line 1 too many times i guess (they let her get away with ANYTHING, including several neglect charges). he finally got his kids.

i was VERY pleased about that.

good news man

Yep.. I'm not one of those foolish women who always sides with the woman. I think every situation needs to have decisions made based on the circumstances at the time. Sure, some people say the kids should be with the mother, but some women are just really fuckign shitty mothers, just like some guys are shitty fathers. It doesn't favor one sex or another. Children need, love, patience, attention, nurturing, encouragement, and a lot of care. I feel the kids belong wherever they are getting what they need. They should always be the primary concern, but in so many nasty breakups and seperations they get used as pawns and people stop thinking about what's best for them. It's sad.

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10-09-2003, 03:57 PM

Originally posted by LadyMischief
Active parenting from BOTH parents, even when seperated, does

I can't agree more. What I objected against was in his first post it didn't sound like he gave a fuck about the kids.

So instead of facing a grip in child support, I can spend it driving to her state every other week and renting a little spot up there so that I can find a few bitches up there for the site

Sure doesn't sound very responsible to me.
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10-09-2003, 04:03 PM

You'd better pray that she doesn't go to her county for assistance... they WILL come for YOU.

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10-09-2003, 04:05 PM

Originally posted by evildick
In some relationships you pay the support and she spends it all on clothes, getting her hair done, going to the gym, etc., and then you still have to fork out the money to buy the kids the stuff they need.

Before you crucify him, consider the fact that things sometimes work out better when you can spend the money directly on the kids instead of giving it to the mother first.

Yes in a perfect world.

I am not questioning BVF's ability or desire to support his children...however I do question the court's ability to make that decision for any parent.

There are standard practices for a reason, and history has shown that on both sides of the fence, father and mother there have been dead beat parents, I just don't think the court's should take chances on allowing any parent to decide for themselves what, if, or when they should pay anything.

Without there being a court ordered minimum, this leaves it wide open for abuse.

But once again, I am not judging BVF's situation, just the entire process to begin with.

Also just wanted to point out the courts should enforce laws , and court orders on the books regarding child support.

My brother in law is well over $30K in arrears for his child support.

He has NEVER been to jail for this ever. Even though they claim that this will happen if a parent does not follow the court orders and pay.

Fucker is so pathetic he can't even call them on their birthdays. Hell if you can't pay cash...pay some fucking attention.

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10-09-2003, 04:05 PM

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Sure doesn't sound very responsible to me.

oh how we omit to make a faulty point...you could have cut and pasted the VERY NEXT SENTENCE but you didn't...hmmmm.

The beef between me and her and her mama is finished and I'm welcome to come around the kids and her family in her state.

and gemini, you know not what you talk about...poor thang

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10-09-2003, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by BVF

and gemini, you know not what you talk about...poor thang

Well in some states...Texas for one, Colorado is another don't know about NY...if the managing conservator i.e. the parent who maintains a majority of the possession of the kids signs up for any type of assistance, the States go after the other parent to help pay.

Not saying this applies to you, but it does happen and Gemini just may be thinking of a case like this.

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10-09-2003, 04:17 PM

I know a d*mned sight more than you do about it BVF. We're in the third court battle with her (ex's) county since 1996. Oh yeah, we were assured it wouldn't happen by the attorney that handled the divorce for the hubby and the attorney was up in his ex's county 3 months later for the very first battle.

I don't foam at the mouth like some do here about such things.

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10-09-2003, 04:24 PM

Congrats man , glad it worked out for you.

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10-09-2003, 04:24 PM

Originally posted by BVF

oh how we omit to make a faulty point...you could have cut and pasted the VERY NEXT SENTENCE but you didn't...hmmmm.

The beef between me and her and her mama is finished and I'm welcome to come around the kids and her family in her state.

and gemini, you know not what you talk about...poor thang

You are welcome to come around the kids and her family. That's great, it's not very many families that can have it like that after a divorce.
But the way you said it made you sound like a complete ass, to me at least.
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10-09-2003, 04:41 PM

I was married, had 2 kids, and divorced before I was 19. I never got a fucking penny from my ex-husband, and my kids were never supported by welfare. I worked and went to school (thank god for my parents and sisters who babysat). We always lived in our own apartment, had a decent car, food, clothes, etc. I didn't need their worthless father, and I didn't need welfare.

I good friend of mine was divorced a couple of years ago. He had to pay $1000 child support (1 kid) and $700 spousal support per month. Of course, she quit working the minute he said he wanted a divorce. She hasn't worked since, living in the 3-bdrm house with inground pool she was awarded, with the CS and SS covering her expenses. She's a drunk, and he recently was awarded custody of their kid. Her check went from $1700 per month to $700 and she's raising hell with him, "how am I supposed to live???". The bitch needs to get a job.
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10-09-2003, 04:46 PM

Some things should just never ever be posted on a place like GFY.
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10-09-2003, 04:50 PM

I so happy to hear that you plan to have a positive and active part in your childrens' lives. More fathers should be like that!

When I hear a man celebrating the fact that he doesn't have to pay child support, I tend to get my knickers in a twist. I grew up with one of those fathers who was bitter about paying child support because it 'just went to that bitch' (my mom). My mom wasn't some coked up alcoholic party chick either. She worked 40 hours a week in a shitty grocery store to support us all on her own.

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10-09-2003, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by Adorno
Fuck child support, get a job you lazy bitch.

why should a child suffer because 2 people cant get along? i 100% believe that both parents should have to pay child support if they divorce. i dont care if the child(ren) live with the mother or not, each parent should put a percentage of their net salary every month into an account for their child(ren) that can only be used for that childs(rens) needs (ie, medical, clothing, food, etc...)

no one and i mean no one should be excluded from support and
as a "parent", you should WANT to pay for your child even if you will never see him/her for if that is the only thing that you can do, it makes you a better person then not.

if you are smart enough to fuck around, then somewhere you have to pay the consequences whether it be an abortion or support for the next 18-23 years.

on a not so positive note, she can bring you (bvf) into court whenever she wants just to be even more spiteful then she has already been. it sucks and it's not fair and the laws really need to be re-worked, but that is the way it is for now so dont be surprised. court documents in cases like this are not solid and i have seen it a few times with a few male friends of mine. the laws are in the woman's favor even if they arent suppose to be.

if anything, i hope your kids come out of this with minimal injury.

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10-09-2003, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by BVF
Once again my ass was in a sling but I know somehow...some way, I'll get out of the situation with hardly a scratch....

First...I got a nice plea on my domestic violence case from 1st degree to 4th degree "menacing" , where I can get it expunged within a year...I gotta pay 180 in fines and court costs..no probation..

And now with a year and a half of bullshit, where she was about to order a psychological evalution of me, where it would have cost thousands of dollars, and the trial set for Jan 16 with my wife getting nothing more than two hours on supervised visitation, my wife FINALLY came to her senses and was willing to cut a deal....The kids will live in her state for nine months and in my state for three...I'll get mostly all of the holidays and here's the best part...I'll be paying NO CHILD SUPPORT! NO SPOUSAL SUPPORT! NO "HALF" OF MY BUSINESS! There will be no courts in my finances and I can go back to laying low in the background..So instead of facing a grip in child support, I can spend it driving to her state every other week and renting a little spot up there so that I can find a few bitches up there for the site....The beef between me and her and her mama is finished and I'm welcome to come around the kids and her family in her state...And we get joint custody so there is no one person who is the "custodial" parent! So I can still claim them for all kinds of benefits!!!

The Lord is good!

Selling out and saving money concerning your kids and the Lord is Good? Feel sorry for you children.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=183353 (yesterday)

"...She ignored the video I showed her of my wife being passed out and intoxicated with my daughter present and ..."

You have been ranting about what a bad mother she is on this bb for a while. I actually thought you were a stand up father but instead you post that saving money is more important than the welfare of your children.
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10-09-2003, 05:08 PM

Once again, I hope maybe they will adopt my idea for a new child support system.

Many states now use 'debit cards' for welfare recipients. Since one of the main gripes between parents when child support is paid is that none of it ever gets to the kids...why not make it so that the support is paid into an account that the parent (who receives the payment) can only access by using a 'debit card'. Then monthly an accounting of purchases can be sent to both parents. The paying parent can actually see what their money is going toward and if there's any question of the money being misused they can go to court with statements in hand.

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