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BREAKING NEWS: New Patent for Exit-Console Traffic Approved... another Acacia?

10-09-2003, 01:31 PM

PATENT NO: US 6,389,458 by a company called Idea Flood has been approved! This patent covers the exit console idea that has been used and developed on the internet for years. We need to ban together and be strong against the threats that patents like this bring!

And guess what.. they are puting the patent up for sell! This is reality.. this is not scare tactics

What other patents do they have pending? See a partial list below or goto their website :

20020169829
Method, apparatus and system for directing access to content on a computer network

20020023135
Addressee-defined mail addressing system and method

20020022999
Method and apparatus for providing audio advertisements in a computer network

20020019800
Method and apparatus for transacting divisible property

20020019771
Method and apparatus for providing internet advertising service
20010056383 Method and apparatus for managing ownership of virtual property

20010056371
System and method for aggregating information over a wide area network
20010034657
Method and apparatus for conducting domain name service

20010001863
Method, apparatus and system for directing access to content on a computer network

20030009533
Distributed computing by carrier-hosted agent

20020103915
Method and system for operating a network server to discourage inappropriate use

20020095482
Method and apparatus for verifying the identity of individuals
20020091825 Method and apparatus for improving bandwidth efficiency in a computer network

20020089960
Method for verifying geographical location of wide area network users

20020087429
Method and apparatus for securing delivery of goods

20020083070
Method and system for operating a network server to discourage inappropriate use

20020082926
Method and system for transacting with network traffic

20020073335
System and method for serving content over a wide area network

20020059370
Method and apparatus for delivering content via information retrieval devices

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10-09-2003, 01:32 PM

no need to fear, Hustler and CE will save the day

Ever notice that pretty much everything added to the Constitution after the original was a mistake.
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10-09-2003, 01:34 PM

Originally posted by rooster
no need to fear, Hustler and CE will save the day

I think it's time we stick together and save ourselves. There are national nurses associations, teamsters etc. The adult industry can do it as well

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10-09-2003, 01:35 PM

We are on it.

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10-09-2003, 01:37 PM

Originally posted by Far-L
We are on it.

How are you on it? What are you doing?

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10-09-2003, 01:38 PM

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10-09-2003, 01:45 PM

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10-09-2003, 01:50 PM

I'm about to patent this:

Process for removing compressed images from an information storage device

Deleting jpg's and .gif's is now MINE! MUAHAHAHA!

I'll be nice to all of you, though. I only want 1/10th of 1% of your gross revenues.

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10-09-2003, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by FATPad
I'm about to patent this:

Process for removing compressed images from an information storage device

Deleting jpg's and .gif's is now MINE! MUAHAHAHA!

I'll be nice to all of you, though. I only want 1/10th of 1% of your gross revenues.

Thanks for being so kind!

What are your feelings about this patent and the pending patents they have?

Do you feel concerned at all that your should take steps and protect yourself?

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10-09-2003, 01:54 PM

They owe me 80,000 stock options

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10-09-2003, 01:55 PM

It's the frickin' prick from XPics. If the US government and patent office doesn't wake the fuck up and stop this nonsense allowing completely ridiculous patents by cockholsters like Acacia and Shuster the Internet is doomed. It's sad that it's already gone this far. I wish brain cancer on Shuster and all those who are in cahoots with Acacia. In fact I am going to take a little time out now and pray for cancer to strike their children as well.

Not kidding either, what these people plan to do is harm alot of people and families who depend on the Internet. There seems to be alot of small and mid sized webmasters who don't understand what's begun.

I'm not anti-patent, if there was some inventor or company out there who created digital video, storing it, distributing it then all of us should have to pay a license.

I can sit here right now and project what the Internet will look like and patent a thousand possible concepts and processes. I can't program my way out of a paper bad, neither can Acacia or this fuckwit Shuster. Somebody in government has to see this is insanity.

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10-09-2003, 01:56 PM

Good fucking luck....I just patented the patent on patenting ideas.
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10-09-2003, 01:57 PM

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10-09-2003, 01:58 PM

When Far-L said "we are on it", what he meant to say was:

The board of directors of the IMPA has already begun work addressing this patent. We are speaking with our legal counsel to see what measures can be taken proactively regarding this patent.

In my opinion, a ridiculous joke of a patent.

Is everyone starting to get the message? Are you starting to see why we need your support in our fight to invalidate the Acacia patents? Do you see how the other vultures are already lining up?

More info on this as it becomes available.
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10-09-2003, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by Squirtit

Thanks for being so kind!

What are your feelings about this patent and the pending patents they have?

Do you feel concerned at all that your should take steps and protect yourself?

I think this shit is imbecilic.

I think it's akin to doing something like patenting the transport of cucumbers via truck when automobiles and then trucks first came out. I didn't build the road, the truck, or the equipment to load the truck, nor did I grow the cucumbers, but I am somehow now in possession of the sole right to transport cucumbers via trucks.

All I can do is hope that someone in the patent office wakes the fuck up and stops this stupidity.

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10-09-2003, 02:02 PM

We are looking for the prior art and want to see if the patents are valid.

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10-09-2003, 02:02 PM

Originally posted by JMM
Is everyone starting to get the message? Are you starting to see why we need your support in our fight to invalidate the Acacia patents? Do you see how the other vultures are already lining up?

More info on this as it becomes available.

The whole poing of this thread

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10-09-2003, 02:03 PM

interesting

i bet they have a patent for spam as well
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10-09-2003, 02:04 PM

Originally posted by Squirtit

The whole poing of this thread

Sometimes you have to state the obvious.

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10-09-2003, 02:05 PM

I wish brain cancer on Shuster and all those who are in cahoots with Acacia. In fact I am going to take a little time out now and pray for cancer to strike their children as well.

A bit harsh?

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10-09-2003, 02:05 PM

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....All I can do is hope that someone in the patent office wakes the fuck up and stops this stupidity.

I agree.. something has to change with the patent office.

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10-09-2003, 02:06 PM

I remember when xpics started the popup shit, made me alot of money
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10-09-2003, 02:06 PM

Originally posted by Squirtit

I agree.. something has to change with the patent office.

Until then, I will continue on with my deleting jpg's patent.

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10-09-2003, 02:07 PM

Originally posted by Mutt
It's the frickin' prick from XPics. .....

What do you mean?

I can imagine what the internet will look like.. .NOTHING everything will be to expensive to exist .. except for, of course, the HUGE corporations which will then dominate. No room for much individual business if this keeps up.

Remember.. this is only the stuff we KNOW about... not to mention things going on behind the scenes and yet to be released or litigated upon.

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10-09-2003, 02:08 PM

Until then, I will continue on with my deleting jpg's patent.

i registred that allready! you owe me!

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10-09-2003, 02:09 PM

Originally posted by Johny Traffic

A bit harsh?

These people are doing the wrong thing. They have to be stopped. It's not right to take advantage of others like this.. whether they are in the adult business or not.

Just because it's "theoretically" legal to do what they're doing, doesn't mean it should be done.

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10-09-2003, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by Johny Traffic

A bit harsh?

nope - i know lots of really fine people, family included who've had/have cancer. It's not nice. I wish it on bad people. I enjoy when bad things happen to bad people. Give me a momentary feeling that there is justice in the world, of course it's an illusion but i'll take it.

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10-09-2003, 02:13 PM

Now i really understand why lawyers get paid so much from 2 fucking words exit popup they made so many pages of bs
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10-09-2003, 02:16 PM

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Now i really understand why lawyers get paid so much from 2 fucking words exit popup they made so many pages of bs

Amazing isn't it?

Truly amazing how we as an industry innovate and create only to have someone else document the process and be given rights to it. Makes you wonder what the world of "innovation" has come to?

You create for free and I document and have rights to what you did? Doesn't seem fair to me. It's not logical and companies like this are attacking us and our livelihood.

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10-09-2003, 02:22 PM

Originally posted by Mutt

Somebody in government has to see this is insanity.

There has long been talks on the Hill about patent reform, the problem is that it is talk, and we are waiting for the walk.

Patent abuse cases are more recently popping up, replacing business plans and products with portfolios of patents.

The founder of PriceLine brought some illumination to this new direction with the 300+ patents he has, including his claim to fame of the name-your-price patent.

The problem is not that the USPTO is being fooled, it's that what they validated as a patent and what a patent holder INTERPRETS their patent to mean are two different things.

Sometimes the USPTO goofs up majorly, like granting the patent to swinging sideways on a swing ( http://www.fighthepatent.com/v2/SwingPatent.html - which got invaldiated by themselves when the news hit last year).

It comes down to a court system to decide if a patent infringement claim is legit.. which takes mucho dinero.

My efforts with FightThePatent.com and now with Fight The Patent Foundation is to say that private individuals and businesses can step in where the government is slow to react.

Channel your frustrations into something positive... support FTPF and IMPA. We are both looking to stop patent abuse.

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10-09-2003, 02:23 PM

A QUOTE FROM THE IDEA FLOOD WEBSITE:

"Ideaflood, Inc., an intellectual property holding corporation, today announced plans to begin looking for a buyer for its Patent No. U.S. 6,389,458, covering exit traffic on the Internet. The patent has been described as one of the most widely infringed patents ever issued by the U.S. Patent & Trademark Office.

Parties ranging from well-known Fortune 500 corporations to small online retailers generate an estimated $1.85 billion in combined revenues in 2002 by using methods covered by Ideaflood?s exit traffic patent. "

Notice how excited they are that their patent is one of the most widely infringed upon? Can you believe that this is a "selling" point for a patent holder?

Isn't this a little suspicious to you guys? We are ALL sitting ducks. Stick together or go out of business.

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10-09-2003, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by Johny Traffic

i registred that allready! you owe me!

Be sure that the owners of a patent that claims ownership to the JPEG file format doesn't require you to license their patent

http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-945735.html

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10-09-2003, 02:26 PM

Originally posted by FightThisPatent

There has long been talks on the Hill about patent reform, the problem is that it is talk, and we are waiting for the walk.

Patent abuse cases are more recently popping up, replacing business plans and products with portfolios of patents.

The founder of PriceLine brought some illumination to this new direction with the 300+ patents he has, including his claim to fame of the name-your-price patent.

The problem is not that the USPTO is being fooled, it's that what they validated as a patent and what a patent holder INTERPRETS their patent to mean are two different things.

Sometimes the USPTO goofs up majorly, like granting the patent to swinging sideways on a swing ( http://www.fighthepatent.com/v2/SwingPatent.html - which got invaldiated by themselves when the news hit last year).

It comes down to a court system to decide if a patent infringement claim is legit.. which takes mucho dinero.

My efforts with FightThePatent.com and now with Fight The Patent Foundation is to say that private individuals and businesses can step in where the government is slow to react.

Channel your frustrations into something positive... support FTPF and IMPA. We are both looking to stop patent abuse.

Fight the Patent!

By supporting FightThePatent and IMPA what EXACTLY are you guys doing?

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10-09-2003, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by Squirtit

Notice how excited they are that their patent is one of the most widely infringed upon?

I think Acacia would have to disagree with them... THEIR patent is more widely "infringed" then any kind of popup/exit traffic (not based on pageviews, but on number of websites that utilize the alleged patent claim).

Maybe Guiness Book of World Records should be alerted...

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10-09-2003, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by FightThisPatent

Be sure that the owners of a patent that claims ownership to the JPEG file format doesn't require you to license their patent

http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-945735.html

Fight the Patent!

The process to remove compressed image files from a permanent information storage device is mine, and has nothing to do with the actual jpeg format. :P

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10-09-2003, 02:29 PM

The problem we are facing is, a bunch of old fashioned, out of the loop judges on the Supreme court benches that have no idea what a modem even is, much less anything about the internet and how it should be regulated. Things are going to get much worse before they ever get better... The next 25 years are going to be ugly for the internet entrepreneur. Ultimately, the internet is the WORLD WIDE WEB and what is illegal here might not be illegal there.

Hang on to your thoughts people... because what you think today, could be obsolete tomorrow.

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10-09-2003, 02:29 PM

You want prior art? Robin Nixon built it, Timon figured out how to turn it into money.

Schuster's not got a leg to stand on.
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10-09-2003, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by FATPad
The process to remove compressed image files from a permanent information storage device is mine, and has nothing to do with the actual jpeg format. :P

welll how do you know a file is a JPEG file? you going to take the word of the computer use that uses the .jpg extension?

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10-09-2003, 02:30 PM

Idea Floods...These are the guys who own web1000 freehost and xxx.com
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10-09-2003, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by Furious_Female
The problem we are facing is, a bunch of old fashioned, out of the loop judges on the Supreme court benches that have no idea what a modem even is, much less anything about the internet and how it should be regulated. Things are going to get much worse before they ever get better... The next 25 years are going to be ugly for the internet entrepreneur. Ultimately, the internet is the WORLD WIDE WEB and what is illegal here might not be illegal there.

Hang on to your thoughts people... because what you think today, could be obsolete tomorrow.

'

I totally agree with you. The judges seem to be blindsided by technology and don't realize the injustice they are causing by letting these people get away with what they are doing!

I hope things get better before they get worse..but I fear you might be right. Hang on people ... it's gonna be a bumpy ride!

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10-09-2003, 02:37 PM

Originally posted by FightThisPatent

I think Acacia would have to disagree with them... THEIR patent is more widely "infringed" then any kind of popup/exit traffic (not based on pageviews, but on number of websites that utilize the alleged patent claim).

Maybe Guiness Book of World Records should be alerted...

Fight the Patent!

I think Acacia might buy the idea flood patent.. what do you think?

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10-09-2003, 02:38 PM

Originally posted by Kimmykim
You want prior art? Robin Nixon built it, Timon figured out how to turn it into money.

Schuster's not got a leg to stand on.

We have to prove these things.. know of any concrete proof of this? It would really help the fight. Let's work on this together.

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10-09-2003, 02:39 PM

Originally posted by MetaformX
Idea Floods...These are the guys who own web1000 freehost and xxx.com

Are you serious? Show me the proof.. this is VERY interesting

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10-09-2003, 02:43 PM

Originally posted by Squirtit

Are you serious? Show me the proof.. this is VERY interesting

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10-09-2003, 02:44 PM

I hear rumors that FM Ron Levi is involved in this, or trying to be. Not to mention he is working at locking down or buying other patents. He will use these in a vindictive way against this industry in which he had such a harsh fall from grace. You heard it here first. This is no joke.

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10-09-2003, 02:45 PM

good think i dont use exit consoles :-D

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10-09-2003, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by Squirtit

We have to prove these things.. know of any concrete proof of this? It would really help the fight. Let's work on this together.

Try the way back web machine thingy
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10-09-2003, 02:47 PM

Originally posted by MetaformX

Ideafloods is owned by Global reach Inc.
Web1000 is owned by Global reach Inc.
xxx.com is owned by web1000

What do you think we should do about this connection?

Should we voice our opinion and call these people to task?

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10-09-2003, 02:48 PM

Originally posted by Squirtit

By supporting FightThePatent and IMPA what EXACTLY are you guys doing?

What FTPF is planning to do is that if the 250K pledge goal is reached, then i will form a 501c3 non-profit organization and then turn the pledges into donations.

The money collected will be used to continue the work to bring awareness over patent abuse cases, to find prior art, to provide expert witnesses to defendants in litigation, and to petition the USPTO directly to invalidate patents based on prior art. I will go to mainstream companies like Apple, Real, Yahoo, Sony, AOL, etc to raise additional money in executing on FTPF's charter.

If you feel frustrated at these patent infringement stories, take action by supporting FTPF in the pledge drive.

FTPF and IMPA do have an overlap in the area of patents. IMPA has a much bigger mission of looking after all issues that affect webmaster's business.

FTPF is narrowly focused on patents.

http://www.fightthepatent.com/go is an article that i wrote that explains the altruistic and novel approach i am taking with the Foundation.

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10-09-2003, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by FATPad
I think it's akin to doing something like patenting the transport of cucumbers ......

As stupid as this may sound, it is possible to patent the idea. If nobody has not done it before, the patent will be granted, simple as that, any idea with a practical application can be patented.

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