Samesex marriage ban'USA'

God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.

Marriage = Christian,the church hates fags and lesbos,jesus and god too,so why the fuck do you want to marry?!

Gays and lesbos are more annoying than jews who think that everything is anti jewish.

i have nothing against lesbian & gay but i dont like the idea of same sex marriage

did he now? Who's to say Buda didn't make or Allah.. So you saying god didn't make the neighborers male dog, from across the street that's always trying to hump the other male dogs?

I'm not gay and I could care less if two chicks or two dudes want to get married.. Why is it any of my business what they do, dose it affect me? No. When people stop worrying what everyone else dose and worry about themselves, this world will be a better place.

There is nothing wrong with same-sex marriages.
It is two people who love each other, why should it matter what sex they are.
I believe they should be allowed to do it.

Im gay and I cant say I am for it.... but some people seem to think it is what will make them happy so maybe they should

Equal benefits is good enough for me

some churches think it's okay and fly with it?

we have had so many adds running in local papers lately on this topic from traditional families and same with schools

AI think our government should really have a hard lok at thi seeing we have a fairly new guy runniung canada Paul Martin
billionaire and seems to jive with bushes ideas and ethics..

I think everyone out there has some close family member is swinging the other way be it a distant family tie.. I do have one that came clean alittle while back it's a shame they live this way and most of them are living in fear.. but I don't go for this marriage thing and having children being grown up in this enviroment as well is warped! I hope bush bans this fast!.. NO

you can be gay dude/dudet/ all you want I don't care..
it's the marriage thing thats being fucked around with and the churches shouldn't be involved is my biggest point..

dragging the religion into it is a no,no,..

next anyone else.. want give there 2cents on what they think
about our society being broken down and running amuck..

again it's adam & eve not adam & fuckin steve..

As for same-sex marriages undermining the sanctity of marriage-
Read this:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,120017,00.html

Heterosexuals have done a mighty-fine job of ruining the sanctity of marriage all by themselves.

What we're talking about here is people who pay taxes and work to take care of other people who may not be like them. How can you deny these people the same federal rights? Perhaps as protest-and since they don't get the same benefits-they should not pay taxes at all!

Let us not forget that when Mark Bingham rushed the cockpit on 9-11 to save how many lives-he wasn't a gay man that day. He was an American.

Maybe you'd feel differently standing in a field in Pennsylvania.

Bush is crying about gay adults getting married to each other?

Maybe he should worry about the fucked up war he started or the economy instead.

Too bad the election isn't sooner!

I don't see what the big deal is.
All these people, including some people very close to me, have a problem with same sex marriage.
I just ask them one thing...HOW DOES IT DIRECTLY AFFECT YOU?!?!?!

They are brainwashed by the right wing and the media to hate other people who are different. Like when people used to hate blacks.

Even black people were on tv today saying (basically) "fuck that shit" in regards to gay marriage.. and were "insulted" by the comparisons being made.

the real question is...

what church will shave jives signups from all that targeted gay marriage traffic he is sending them

I think the socalled brainwashing is coming from the gayway thing? there trying to think there's nothing wrong with it

long term there is.. morally there's a break down in society
if they want to fuck around and be weird and have sex go for it..

there's a certain class of fetish stuff going on here.. and the gay/lezbo/ population don't see this but I for one do.

my opinion

next anyone else..

Well I have tried to work out what u are trying to say and I think u are anti gay marriage....

Strange how people that hold this sort of extreme view on the subject are like Jive here

Obviously as thick as pig shit

As I'm sure you all know, Bush is pushing for a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage. This annoys me, but not for the reasons everyone else seems to be posting about.


First off, amending the constitution is the responsibility of the legislator, not the executive. Whether this amendment or that amendment should be passed is NOT an issue that should be taken up in a presidential race.

But that?s really just a minor point. I don?t care if he?s demanding legislation or an amendment to the constitution. It?s the fact that gay marriage is being made into 'the important' issue.

It's not. In the overall scheme of things it really is irrelevant.

Yes, same sex-couples should be able to marry. But really, does it really matter what it's called?

People out there who hate gays are going to go on hating gays, and teaching their kids to hate gays. People who are gay are going to go on being gay. If the amendment is passed there will be some laws allowing for civil unions that are treated in the same way as marriage for all intents and purposes. Or there won't, either way sometime within the next 20 years there will be some kind of political backlash and gays will be allowed to marry. Many people will be unhappy about this, but they will get used to it and life will go on.

Yes, I realize that people are going to need to put time and money towards this cause. And they will, there are plenty of them right now who are spending precious energy on this cause. Some of them are on my friends list. But this is really just a special interest issue; it should not determine whether or not a particular politician gets elected.

It takes two sides to argue. The liberal anti-bush lobby is spending precious time and energy trying to argue some philosophical point about whether the government should recognize civil unions, and if so, what they should be called.

Let me repeat, people are wasting a hideous amount of time and effort arguing over something that is basically irrelevant.

Not only are they arguing over something that is irrelevant, they picking a battle that they cannot win.

Sadly most people in this country see plenty of reasons why gays should not be allowed to marry. And it's possible for our fearless leader to galvanize support for his campaign by rallying those people behind him on this 'moral' issue. The fact that liberals are falling for the bait lets him minimize other issues where he doesn?t look so great, like the economy, or the occupation of Iraq, or environmental policies, or any of the other areas where Bush has been doing a less than stellar job.

If you just want to vent, fine. Rant all you like about how marriage is love, how evil Bush is, and how we would all be better off if he was replaced by a peanut butter sandwich. If that makes you feel better go for it, you aren?t hurting anyone.

But if you actually want to convince anyone who isn?t already voting for the ?anyone but Bush? ticket you are wasting your time. There are plenty of reasons why Bush should not be re-elected, but opposing gay marriage is not in the top 10. Gay marriage isn?t something you can ?convince? someone else of your opinion on. Either they agree with you or they don?t. Telling them that 'marriage is love' isn?t going to change their opinion. On the other hand, bringing up that the Union of Concerned Scientists Say Administration Distorts Facts actually DOES give you something to talk about that might change some minds. Or bring up that the Pentagon now considers the threat of global warming to "vastly eclipses that of terrorism".

There are plenty of ways we can criticize Bush in which he can?t do anything but make excuses. Why, then, are so many people wasting so much time and energy attacking him in an area where he might have a leg to stand on.

EDIT: stolen from here.

anyone program that you stem from are surely *globalfrauds.*
and your probably one of these payed monkeys from these useless programs to avoid right? who ever you are.

anyways back to the topic..

NEXT..

"I haven't visited a pig farm lately"

NO I just look at the future and we have to look and see where it's heading logically and it isn't "one big gay party" thats for sure.

sorry but your breaking down the moral fiber of society in North America.. this is why you don't live here..

and most gay/lesbos/ don't live a happy peaceful life..
nor a long one either.. sorry you don't like my opinion but I don't like the society being pushed/tricked/ into excepting this low end way of life.. GO BUSH..!

who cares, if it makes people happy, and doesnt fuck with my shit, it's all good.

Are you pissed or stoned?

Or are you really this stupid?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by nathan_f
who cares, if it makes people happy, and doesnt fuck with my shit, it's all good. [/QUOTE


I just agree with it being just okay with canadians and if it's rejected by the USA then canada will have another chance to stamp it out and not loose clean image we once loved get rid of the trashy ideas and get back on track this crap is like a virus and needs to be dealt with swiftly..

actually educated and lookin out for the future
andthis virus it's just not there it's a fad and will pass..

"and most gay/lesbos/ don't live a happy peaceful life.. "

And why do you think that is?

Take a few minutes to think about it..........

Thats the funniest line I have seen today......

Educated in what?

And what does that 2nd line even mean, what language are you trying to speak?

I say let them have what they want.

Who is it really hurting if two men or two women get married to each other.

They are people too. How many years did it take for black people to stop ridding on the back of the bus. Its just a matter of time until they get their own rights, just like the black people.
thats my opinion and my

seeing your upset and gay lets give the others to say there piece
you've told us your story and opinion relax we understand your different and all out gay.. thats your problem..


NEXT anyone else got some stuff htey want to share.

most black people aren't trying to be gay? there trying to be normal and have families with children and there children make children.. and I'm called grandpa not who's that freak..


next.

OMG.....

It doesn't affect me directly but that doesn't mean I agree with it.

edit: Nevermind. I was going to, but it's too easy. No satisfaction outta this one.

I think they should be allowed personally.

My point behind that is people are so conformed to what their state / country tells them what is wrong or right. People are people be it they are black, red, yellow, gay, disabled. People have rights to do what they wish.

And what is your definition of as you state "normal"
To them being gay or lesbian is normal. And they can raise children just as well as any herto married couple, its being done now.

I'm just asking what you webmasters generally
think that is all? post it..


I just started this thread to read about what others have to say
and no I don't agree about samesex stuff they can practice it and pertend it;s right but it doesn't leave the home.


next..

yeah! your right, we have to respect them, but getting involve into marriage, on my opinion God created women to become submissive to men, and men have the rule over men but not to become rough to them but to thake care of them. It would be confuse if two individual involve have the same gender.

And I have a feeling your easily confused.............

that sums it up

YES, if this happens then there will less women in the world being produced and far less choices for all men.. seeing the children in numbers will drop off over time. and then the schools will close down and etc.. the chain of events will be huge on a long term scale.. if there less couples in the world having children what do you think is going to happen other than test tube grown babes?
we want to keep things natural in the world..
this is another no,no.. but another topic.


next. whats your opinion on this. ?

Race-mixing was considered equally unnatural, and was equally unpopular, but ultimately it will be an issue of civil liberties. The outcome will be the same; government cannot give benefits to some and deny the same benefits to others based on race or sex.

If it is your opinion that 'marriage' is a religious thing, then the government never should have endorsed it to begin with. The government and religion must remain seperate.

IMO we should have had 'secular civil unions' (recognized by the government) and 'religious marriages' (recognized by the church) for all committing couples of all orientations; with only the secular union granting special legal rights, and leave the religious 'marriage' ceremonial bs optional.

But too late now, the government decided to call their status-granting "marriage" too. So religionists will have to deal with it. In the law of this country, liberty superceeds religion.

People have been getting 'married' since before any religion that exists today was invented. There have been a lot of wacky versions of marriage a lot worse than two socially-equal people of the same-sex marrying for love. At its core, the purpose of marriage is to make previously unrelated people a family, and the familys people choose to form are personal and private.

What a friggin OxyMoron!

Well fuck! If a couple of black people on tv said "fuck that shit" in regards to gay marriage..then it has to be wrong!!

Gawd..what a moron!

I lean on your last verse family "making families" and children are involved and innocence of children perhaps are broken..

not some guy in drag wearing a wedding dress thinking it's cool to be gay and married.. like I said it's a FAD and will subside in time.. (there all doing monkey see monkey do) there all saying lets have a gay wedding and a big party after words thats all.
It's the cool thing for them too do now..
or they just die off some how.. ?

whats your word on this..

next.

The ignorance of the religious right is shown by what they say and how they say it. It's amazing that when pressed for ONE concrete thing that would be WRONG about gay marriage, they can never come up with anything.

You get terms like this: "there is.. morally there's a break down in society" What the fuck are you talking about dood? WHAT morals? Whose morals?? What break down specifically takes place..and who in society is affected and HOW?

You have nothing..nothing..but worn out slogans that were big back in the 50's & 60's about black people.

god didnt make anything.

christians scare me more than homos.

shove that god up your homophobic ass.

the blacks, inthe 50's/60's it was the white/black thing giong around the old KKK shit.. not the gay/lebzo shit flying..

it was a difference only in colour not beliefs in religions..
the black people inhole are more religous then whites actually percap in the USA.. where talking about samesex marriage..

not about black people or asians or any other race.. were talking morals and were slowly loosing them..


anyone else..

Ok..you can't be serious..you have to be totally joking about this crap. If not, then you have entered the world of "theking" & "sexped" oblivious to the REAL world that exists around them.

Less women..less children..test tubes..all brought about by gay marriage...

Keep posting Jive! You prove the religious right are as inane as the Ku Klux Klan and other extremists!

the day and ages changed so much from early beliefs, i believe if people love each other, why not marry who cares about the genders, heck half of "what is looked upon as normal marriages" dont even last.

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