Lets speculate on what (if any) effect its going to have on us as a whole 
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Originally posted by DarkJedi
what deadline ?
to turn in your signed contract in blood promising your eternal soul to eternal damnation if you get even a single chargeback within any 365 day period.SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR.
Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.
Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.Comment
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yes, a deadline for what?Obey the CowgodComment
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hey. no more tcg banner?Originally posted by DarkJedi
what deadline ?SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR.
Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.
Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.Comment
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The deadline where you have to have a charge back ratio of X % otherwise you lose your rebilling privellages.Comment
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And all the BS compliance stuff they want from us in addition to the %age crap.Comment
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Originally posted by pamphage
hey. no more tcg banner?
never had itComment
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We're going to see some shit hit the fan before January, you can count on that.
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what's visa?
the revolution is coming.Comment
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You can lose your entire billing privileges not just the rebills.Originally posted by Stud Money
The deadline where you have to have a charge back ratio of X % otherwise you lose your rebilling privellages.
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yeah. you're fucked stud money.
i overheard visa talking about you.. and it wasnt pretty.
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Haha yeah i heard them talking about you too hooper ;)Originally posted by Hooper
yeah. you're fucked stud money.
i overheard visa talking about you.. and it wasnt pretty.
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BTW, your sigs to big - BOTH of them
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It all depends on enforcement, and what the rules may really be..But yah expect some big trouble before January.Originally posted by SinEmpire
We're going to see some shit hit the fan before January, you can count on that.
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VISA will enforce the new 1% rule, they have been very strict on enforcement with 2.5% for the last year.Originally posted by Shoplifter
It all depends on enforcement, and what the rules may really be..But yah expect some big trouble before January.
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Is anyone here knows how exactly this rule related to AVS? I.e. do you think that AVS will be affected as well?Obey the CowgodComment
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Traditional AVS sites are not allowed under VISA HRIPSP rules, if you have one up you should be prepared to make drastic changes in order to become compliant with the VISA rules.Originally posted by cyberxxx
Is anyone here knows how exactly this rule related to AVS? I.e. do you think that AVS will be affected as well?
The "compliant avs" will also be subject to the 1%.
All adult sites/Sponsored Merchants under 5967 are subject to the 1% rule.
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These changes are not essential and required for just a few systems only (such as CyberAge etc). So this is not a problem.Originally posted by Epoch
Traditional AVS sites are not allowed under VISA HRIPSP rules, if you have one up you should be prepared to make drastic changes in order to become compliant with the VISA rules.But how exactly this rule will affect the AVS? Will it be aplied to the age verification systems in whole, or will it be applied to EACH particular AVS site?The "compliant avs" will also be subject to the 1%. All adult sites/Sponsored Merchants under 5967 are subject to the 1% rule. Clay EPOCHObey the CowgodComment
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Ummm... in layman's language, what does that mean for operations such as Adult Check, Cyberage etc?Originally posted by Epoch
Traditional AVS sites are not allowed under VISA HRIPSP rules, if you have one up you should be prepared to make drastic changes in order to become compliant with the VISA rules.
The "compliant avs" will also be subject to the 1%.
All adult sites/Sponsored Merchants under 5967 are subject to the 1% rule.
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time will tell
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Any site which sells / grants access to urls which are not registered with VISA is considered non-compliant with VISA HRIPSP rules. AVS sites which have not gone through and registered EVERY webmaster and url belonging to their AVS is non-compliant (they are considered a non-registered HRIPSP).Originally posted by cyberxxx
But how exactly this rule will affect the AVS? Will it be aplied to the age verification systems in whole, or will it be applied to EACH particular AVS site?
If your sites belong to an AVS which has registered your urls then you will be monitored seperately just like all the other webmasters.
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It means they either have to change the way content is delivered ie all content comes from their own registered domains.Originally posted by jayeff
Ummm... in layman's language, what does that mean for operations such as Adult Check, Cyberage etc?
Or
They need to register all of their webmasters and urls and pay the fees.
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InterestingOriginally posted by Epoch
Any site which sells / grants access to urls which are not registered with VISA is considered non-compliant with VISA HRIPSP rules.
Therefore, would it not be prudent to assume that sites such as Google, Yahoo etc, are not allowed to bill using Visa, afterall, they 'grant access' to sites (of an adult nature) not registered with Visa Intl.Comment
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Originally posted by Hooper
yeah. you're fucked stud money.
i overheard visa talking about you.. and it wasnt pretty.
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Nothing quite like getting around the sig rules.
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See your usernameOriginally posted by uranidiot
Nothing quite like getting around the sig rules.
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I hope I don't have to pay sexkey for my sites....Since sexkey uses CCbill and I'm already registered with CCbill, I hope I'm granted an exception...I sure shouldn't have to pay twice..Comment
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I wonder if they are selling prechecks..LOLOriginally posted by Stud Money
Interesting
Therefore, would it not be prudent to assume that sites such as Google, Yahoo etc, are not allowed to bill using Visa, afterall, they 'grant access' to sites (of an adult nature) not registered with Visa Intl.
dude they don't charge for access
plus they aren't considered high risk
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So you're saying you agree with breaking the sig rules?Originally posted by Stud Money
See your username
Wouldn't you say that's a little presumptious of you, considering you're a guest on Lenman's board?
Well??Comment
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Once again, see your usernameOriginally posted by uranidiot
So you're saying you agree with breaking the sig rules?
Wouldn't you say that's a little presumptious of you, considering you're a guest on Lenman's board?
Well??
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This is my perdiction..
Sites offering cheap trials and then converting to $40+ dollars a month, will suffer.
So trials may begin to wither. Sames goes for sites offering 1$ and rolling over to $40 etc..
Sites without good content, or that dont deliver what they promiss, will suffer.
So, Basically what will happen is.. All the BS sites will suffer, and the good sites, with good content will survive..
But wait... If less people are offering trials, or lets say NO one offers trials.. then people will be promoting regular monthly fees..
So what does this have to do with gallery conversions? Well.. TGP traffic converts much better with trial signups or cheap signups.. SO.. what will happen?
All TGPS will begin to only show thumbnails and no large pictures, therefore people will be more inclined to pay more for a monthly membership...
Ok.. Hey.. It could happen..
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My point was, visa vie your response above:Originally posted by Epoch
I wonder if they are selling prechecks..LOL
dude they don't charge for access
plus they aren't considered high risk
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That Google, Yahoo etc GRANT ACCESS (albeit free access) to adult/high risk sites. Does this open the potential up for companies such as Google etc being charged these fees based on what could potentially happen with the current AVS business model in the immediate future?Any site which sells / grants access to urls which are not registered with VISA is considered non-compliant with VISA HRIPSP rulesComment
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That's not an answer Lee.Originally posted by Stud Money
Once again, see your username
The question was - do you believe in breaking the sig rules?
Do you think that's a clever thing to do, considering you're a guest on Lenman's board?
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No, because being able to access the sites from the SE is not dependent on someone entering their VISA credit card.number.Originally posted by Stud Money
That Google, Yahoo etc GRANT ACCESS (albeit free access) to adult/high risk sites. Does this open the potential up for companies such as Google etc being charged these fees based on what could potentially happen with the current AVS business model in the immediate future?
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Neither was it for one or more of the AVS sites that recently closed/changed their TOS.Originally posted by Epoch
No, because being able to access the sites from the SE is not dependent on someone entering their VISA credit card.number.
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I agree that delivering what you promise is a key to avoid chargebacks.
But you never know when you are going to get a chargeback. Some tools are
needed to fight backSIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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Are you referring to the rumored .5% threshold or the cancellation of rebilling for porn sites?Originally posted by SinEmpire
We're going to see some shit hit the fan before January, you can count on that.
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