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09-29-2003, 05:08 PM

Wow sixnine.. you too?

I'm suprised.. i guess you never really know who supports female assault videos either.

I havent had a drop. This is a long long long standing vendetta against somebody who i believe is a bad person. Nice.. sure.. gregarious.. doubtful.. well medicated? last time i checked....

But actions speak louder than words. You might claim that all the videos you advertise have girls who are legal. Of course you probably know you'd never have to show those unless they were subpoaened... so i guess it's a numbers game.

Just be carefull.. whoever shows their support for this shit is i PROMISE showing their support for the solicitation of underage girls.

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09-29-2003, 05:13 PM

BVF... why is it ok for you to approach underage girls? Sure maybe it's legal..

Non nude teen sites are officially LEGAL too... but you'd be hard pressed to find anybody making a dime in this biz who will come out and say that they support soliciting underage girls.

When you met that 16 year old did you do things like tell her how hot she'd be when she was older? Did you propose that when she was 18 you'd shoot her?

It may just be my opinion.. but you admitted that you approached her when she was 16 with the intention of getting her into a video.. i think that makes you a sick fuck.

Where do you draw the line?? 16? 15? 14? 13? 12? How about approaching 10 year olds at the mall and messaging them? How bout telling them how porno is ok and that as soon as they're 18 you'll make them famous?

Obviously you were drooling and staring at her at 16... so that in my mind means that you had the brains to restrain yourself from pulling your dick or your camera out around her... but morally i dont see a difference.

Maybe i'm becoming cynical in my young age.

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09-29-2003, 05:16 PM

Originally posted by Hooper

It may just be my opinion.. but you admitted that you approached her when she was 16 with the intention of getting her into a video.. i think that makes you a sick fuck.

Now you can't even read...nowhere did I say that I approached her with the intention of doing a video...I know that for a fact because I didn't even have the inkling to do video until this past April...Before that, I was doing pics..

And everything I do is LEGAL....I can dance on the line all I want...as long as I don't CROSS the line, i'll still be sitting here in my recliner chair and not in jail for CP.

And if it's sick to you, so be it...I really don't give a fuck how you feel about it....Hooper has never made me a dime...

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09-29-2003, 05:17 PM

I know Keev somewhat, which is to say I met him once and I know him by reputation. I've never heard a bad word about him.

I know Eric pretty well. I've been to his house in Cali, hung out with him at shows, and talked business with him for hours on end. Eric doesn't have a bad bone in his body.

I don't know George at all. From what I do know is he's been in business for a long time and never had any trouble.

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09-29-2003, 05:17 PM

BTW.. Eric's comment about 2257 doesnt mean squat. You only need 2257 info for girls who performed sexually explicit acts.

And GASP.. SHOCK.. who's doing the processing???? CCbill... I thought they got out of the non-nude teen market.

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09-29-2003, 05:19 PM

Thanks Rochard, you are good people.... hung out with you and many others at conventions you know me and my reputation...

I was shocked when this shit hit the fan between some old bad blood between george and hooper, I just wanted to watch my bears playthe packers tonight and a marketing fucking nightmare can i please just watch the game before i die of a heart attack at the age of 25

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09-29-2003, 05:19 PM

I really don't give a fuck how you feel about it

Just remember... i'd be the most liberal in a "jury of your peers"... and if think it's sick??? you're probably fucked.

photos.. video.. who cares.

I'll say this.. I dont know eric either and i'm certainly not saying anything about him... he's an innocent casualty who has been told what he needed to be told to run tnv i guess.

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09-29-2003, 05:21 PM

Originally posted by Hooper

Just remember... i'd be the most liberal in a "jury of your peers"... and if think it's sick??? you're probably fucked.

photos.. video.. who cares.

I'll say this.. I dont know eric either and i'm certainly not saying anything about him... he's an innocent casualty who has been told what he needed to be told to run tnv i guess.

Will somebody please create an "I don't give a fuck" smiley?

If you have a problem, call whoever you need to and report me...I know for a fact that I'll STILL be here when you're through...

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09-29-2003, 05:22 PM

buh-bye.

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09-29-2003, 05:22 PM

ok i have a question. don't mean to step on anybodies toes. your site looks really good. but how does a site with 1 main site announce a site and all of these people jump and want to sign up? i think people's minds are warped by this "reality" content. it does not help conversion if you have reality content. i would like to see any proof of this.. your minds are all told it converts better and it doesn't! porn is porn! maybe a site like college fuck fest, and that is just because you can't find party content anywhere like that. for sites like this it does not matter! the user will give 2 shits about the girl being only in their site, if the girl is hot inside of your members area he is going to like it regardless, im just talking. so can somebody tell me why this happens
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09-29-2003, 05:25 PM

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09-29-2003, 05:25 PM

Jesus, Hooper!

Those are extremely serious charges. I hope you can back them up, because if they are false, and I were these guys, I would sue your ass immediately.

How about showing some proof instead of just running your mouth. If you are correct, you should be able to back up your claims. Nobody in their right mind wants to deal with underage girls.
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09-29-2003, 05:27 PM

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He was soliciting that girl when she was 17. I know for a fact. He had her at sex parties when she was 17. That's a fact.

Deny it.

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09-29-2003, 05:30 PM

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Jesus, Hooper!

Those are extremely serious charges. I hope you can back them up, because if they are false, and I were these guys, I would sue your ass immediately.

How about showing some proof instead of just running your mouth. If you are correct, you should be able to back up your claims. Nobody in their right mind wants to deal with underage girls.

Very well said.........Hooper if you can't back up all you accusations, then you should shut your trap.....But if you can back up your words, the tnv and keev are fucked??........The balls in your court now

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09-29-2003, 05:34 PM

I like 17 yr old girls
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09-29-2003, 05:35 PM

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09-29-2003, 05:36 PM

Hooper - this is pointless to go back and forth. There are no underage girls on our site period. It is slander to make false statements about a company without proof.

Please bring forward your evidence.

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09-29-2003, 05:37 PM

Sorry, i dont maintain records of which underage girls he brought to porn studios and which ones he brought to to sex parties. That's his job i guess.. is that 2256 or something?

I'm suprised that i dont see the "CF" series on the video list anymore.. CF stands for "Chloroform"... photos and videos of drugging girls.

I'll say this.. you've been warned.

You go ahead and do biz with whomever you like.
It's your decision.
I can only relay to you my experience and understanding of TNV.. and if i had to, in a court of law, i'd testify.

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09-29-2003, 05:41 PM

It is slander to make false statements about a company without proof.

Negatory Goose.

It's slander to make false statements.

I can say whatever I want... I dont have to prove it... and i GUARANTEE you dont want what i know to be in discovery... but hell.. go ahead, sue me. I'm sure you're dying to end up in a texas court room explaining your knock out videos and how they were "almost 18" when you started bringing em around.

I hear judges in the bible belt are real sympathetic to your cause.

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09-29-2003, 05:42 PM

Originally posted by Hooper
Sorry, i dont maintain records of which underage girls he brought to porn studios and which ones he brought to to sex parties. That's his job i guess.. is that 2256 or something?

I'm suprised that i dont see the "CF" series on the video list anymore.. CF stands for "Chloroform"... photos and videos of drugging girls.

I'll say this.. you've been warned.

You go ahead and do biz with whomever you like.
It's your decision.
I can only relay to you my experience and understanding of TNV.. and if i had to, in a court of law, i'd testify.

So basically you shot off you mouth (in regards to a VERY SERIOUS subject) tried to tarnish a company and it's owners, and promoters, and you have no proof other than your big mouth????.....man you are a true low life scumbag, and should be sued to the fullest. .....

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09-29-2003, 05:44 PM

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He was soliciting that girl when she was 17. I know for a fact. He had her at sex parties when she was 17. That's a fact.

Deny it.

a FACT uh?

yo fucking post a proof, saying it'S a fact doesn'T mean it is. how you know that? Goerge told you? post your discussion or STFU.

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09-29-2003, 05:46 PM

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When did you stop sleeping with underage girls Bruno Dickman?

My girlfriend is 5 years older than me and I have been with her for a couple years now... so you can grab your pack of beer, turn on the TV and have a great evening man.

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09-29-2003, 05:53 PM

What do you consider to be "Proof" dingleberries?

If it needed to be dragged out in a court of law i could get employees to testify to what she was doing before the official "shoots".

If it really needed to be dragged out we could whip out the cf video series that we still have hidden away in a vault.

Just ask tnv why ALL of the videos arent for sale on their site?

Eric may be the new owner of the company... and my guess is that til now he didnt even know the full history of George, Kirk & Alicia. (Damn alicia was a sweetheart though)

You can call *me* a scumbag all you want.. but i sleep at night. if you do then good for you.

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09-29-2003, 05:56 PM

Eric.. dig through the party videos if you have them all.

You'll find videos of "April" well before she was 18.

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09-29-2003, 05:58 PM

Chloroform series? Yeah that was a series George shot for fans that were in to it. It was always done in a fun way. In fact the last video in that series is titled "Women against Chloroform" featuring a support group for women who had been chloroformed. It was a whacky fantasy series that had some loyal fans but is now discontinued. It was always done in a fun way. I am not into it but one man's erotica is another man's belly laugh.

I will repeat. We have all the necessary forms dating back to our first video.

Now back to Monday Night Football.

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09-29-2003, 06:01 PM

The Party Videos? I was told April was at TNV-E2 but did not participate because she was not yet 18. A guy named ROB recruited her for a completely different site. TNV-E2 has no nudity. It is not a sex video. It is 6 or 7 girls in lingerie. AND YES THEY ARE OVER 18. AND NO APRIL WAS NOT IN THAT VIDEO.

I wasn't there but I capped it for the paysite. She is definitely not on it.

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09-29-2003, 06:09 PM

I was told April was at TNV-E2 but did not participate because she was not yet 18.

so then i was telling the truth when i said that she was recruited under age and brought to sex parties?

This is only page 2 folks. And that's the first girl i brought up. And she may not be in the edited footage (fuck if i know)... but i watched 20 pedophiles filming her. We'll subpoena all those customers to the stand. I bet they'd be thrilled.

That party maybe not illegal... but fuckin immoral in every way.

The real suprise eric is probably not something you want me to air on this forum. I've just shared the gossipy stuff.

You SURE you own the rights to those videos? Might wanna contact me.

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09-29-2003, 06:13 PM

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but i watched 20 pedophiles filming her. We'll subpoena all those customers to the stand. I bet they'd be thrilled.

That party maybe not illegal... but fuckin immoral in every way.

So what did you do? Take another sip from your bacardi coke?
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09-29-2003, 06:17 PM

Nope. I left as fast as i could and told him to get the fuck outta our studio or i'd have him arrested.

Never heard from tnv again til today.

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09-29-2003, 06:18 PM

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09-29-2003, 06:18 PM

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Nope. I left as fast as i could and told him to get the fuck outta our studio or i'd have him arrested.

Never heard from tnv again til today.

Ok, that makes sense.
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09-29-2003, 06:23 PM

This is not spam. This is just to give you an idea of what Hooper calls a sex party. This is the most revealing shot from the video TNV-E2.

I shrunk it in half so it wouldn't bloat the thread.

This was a party so that members could meet and hang out with the actual tnv models. Pretty cool if you ask me. Some models went to back rooms with guys for private photo sessions. There was no sex. These guys were not pedophiles. They were just guys who liked upskirt and panty shots of 18-20 year old girls.

You are looking at Courtney, Alicia, Hannah, and possibly Elaine's butt. Do they look like the type of girls that will have sex with you in the back room??

If only...

This is about as innocent as the adult industry gets.

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09-29-2003, 06:25 PM

Originally posted by TNVGirls
This is not spam. This is just to give you an idea of what Hooper calls a sex party. This is the most revealing shot from the video TNV-E2.

I shrunk it in half so it wouldn't bloat the thread.

This was a party so that members could meet and hang out with the actual tnv models. Pretty cool if you ask me. Some models went to back rooms with guys for private photo sessions. There was no sex. These guys were not pedophiles. They were just guys who liked upskirt and panty shots of 18-20 year old girls.

You are looking at Courtney, Alicia, Hannah, and possibly Elaine's butt. Do they look like the type of girls that will have sex with you in the back room??

If only...

This is about as innocent as the adult industry gets.

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09-29-2003, 06:29 PM

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09-29-2003, 06:30 PM

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Call me overly moral but yes, if you had old guys watching a 17 year old girl do that kind of shit in lingere, I would brand them pedophiles.
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09-29-2003, 06:36 PM

Anyways.. i've spoken with Eric.. he was not around during the time at which these things were happening.

My animosity towards george remains strong, my disgust with his market and the entire cf series is undeterred... but... eric seems like a nice guy so i'm going to stop making his life difficult.

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09-29-2003, 06:49 PM

Gogobar - can you please let me get back to mnf?

All those girls were over 18. The girl who showed up was not in the video because she was not yet 18.

Is that clear?

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09-29-2003, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by TNVGirls
Gogobar - can you please let me get back to mnf?

All those girls were over 18. The girl who showed up was not in the video because she was not yet 18.

Is that clear?

TNVEric.

Our first video of April is titled " SV-18 Introducing April - Welcome to 18". The title basically speaks for itself.

Are you trying to start shit with me now?

You asked, I answered, I didn't attack you.

Whether the girl was in the video or not is not the point. Do you condone it as long as it's not tapped?
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09-29-2003, 07:26 PM

I support Keev because I like him and he's BP4L...

Hooper I think your heart is in the right place, and maybe you think you are doing the "right" thing -- but I don't think you see the bigger picture and maybe you're attacking the wrong people.

It may seen wrong to you and me to be scouting models before they turn 18 -- that's really not going to change -- not in this industry and not in any industry. How many kids <18 have smoked cigarettes, drank alcohol, had sex, smoked weed, etc. etc. by the time these girls are 18 most likely they've been through a hell of a lot -- and it's not unlikely for many girls to have been sexually abused, living with no parental guidance, no money, and on and on... It's a fucked up world we live in, and unfortunately some of these fucked-in-the-head girls get involved with porn after they turn 18... Sure, some of them are very intelligent and mature and some of them are stupid and immature... but as far as I know girls <18 are free to talk to and associate with whoever they like -- and it happens every day out in public at malls and coffee shops and any number of places and it's perfectly legal and there's nothing anyone can do about it.

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09-29-2003, 07:41 PM

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Highschools everywhere lock your doors, parents everywhere watch out... cause SICK FUCKS LIKE HIM ARE RECRUITING UNDERAGE GIRLS!
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09-29-2003, 07:45 PM

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09-29-2003, 07:50 PM

Hooper - whoever your accusing you saying that he met 17 year olds and told them that as soon as they will be 18 he will shoot them for porn site? right?
if so there is nothing wrong with it...get over it...

If he got underage models on his site (THE WERE SHOT WHILE THEY WERE UNDER THE AGE OF 18) report him to ASACP!

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09-29-2003, 07:56 PM

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Hooper - whoever your accusing you saying that he met 17 year olds and told them that as soon as they will be 18 he will shoot them for porn site? right?
if so there is nothing wrong with it...get over it...

If he got underage models on his site (THE WERE SHOT WHILE THEY WERE UNDER THE AGE OF 18) report him to ASACP!

case closed!

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09-29-2003, 08:06 PM

I'm sorry. didnt realize i was on your nutsac.

As i posted, and i'm not going to get into details. I spoke with eric.. and the current TNV is not the same company or people that it was a few years ago.

Accordingly i dont feel the need to "rain fire upon them" ;-))

But if you are soliciting underage girls.. i hope you end up in jail for something... even if it's not for that!

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09-29-2003, 08:07 PM

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I'm sorry. didnt realize i was on your nutsac.

As i posted, and i'm not going to get into details. I spoke with eric.. and the current TNV is not the same company or people that it was a few years ago.

Accordingly i dont feel the need to "rain fire upon them" ;-))

But if you are soliciting underage girls.. i hope you end up in jail for something... even if it's not for that!

and that bad shit you're wishing on people will come back to you...karma is a bitch....

what kind of pussy would wish for someone to go to jail for "something"?

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09-29-2003, 08:28 PM

me. someday my daughter will be 16. and if a pornographer was just waiting for her to turn i'd have to basically kill him.

one thing you'll learn about this biz BVF is that everybody has their own lines they draw in the sand and everybody draws those lines in different places.

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09-29-2003, 08:43 PM

So can I vent my rage yet? Been caught in the middle of a bunch of OLD shit before my time and honestly say for about 3 hours I wanted to rip some peoples heads off! I sure as hell feel like my head was, at the expense of others... but since everything is now settled and understood. Let me make it clear, I am with hooper on his position. If any such misconduct was going on i wouldn't be with TNV! With that said and after my MNF break maybe i should try announcing it next week.... lol

Hooper pls stay off my threads

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09-29-2003, 10:16 PM

Originally posted by Keev
So can I vent my rage yet? Been caught in the middle of a bunch of OLD shit before my time and honestly say for about 3 hours I wanted to rip some peoples heads off! I sure as hell feel like my head was, at the expense of others... but since everything is now settled and understood. Let me make it clear, I am with hooper on his position. If any such misconduct was going on i wouldn't be with TNV! With that said and after my MNF break maybe i should try announcing it next week.... lol

Hooper pls stay off my threads

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09-29-2003, 10:23 PM

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09-29-2003, 10:43 PM

Site looks good Keev. Sounds like you learned something new today, hehe
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