What do you guys think is better: Partnership or Per Signup??

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  • tranza
    ICQ: 197-556-237
    • Jun 2003
    • 57559
    #1

    What do you guys think is better: Partnership or Per Signup??

    What do you guys think is better: getting payed per signup (flat rate) or partnership programs??

    Would like to hear some answer from affiliates and program owners, in which case do I make more money ??
    I'm just a newbie.
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    • Stud Money
      So Fucking Banned
      • Sep 2003
      • 3214
      #2
      You should use both types of program as a compliment to each other.

      The signups offer a quick hit of $$$ however, as everyone knows the industry has ups and downs and that is where recurring programs come into play, affording you long term revenues to supplement the times when signup programs do not seem to be working for you

      BTW, SEE SIG

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        • natas
          Confirmed User
          • Mar 2002
          • 3377
          #3
          Originally posted by Stud Money
          You should use both types of program as a compliment to each other.
          definately what he said

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            • Tipsy
              Confirmed User
              • Jul 2001
              • 6989
              #4
              It's been said - both. Dpepends on a lot of factors not least of which is site quality. There is no right or wrong answer. Instead do a little work and see what makes you the most money as it's the only way to find out.
              Ignorance is never bliss.

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                • JasonB
                  Confirmed User
                  • Nov 2001
                  • 1183
                  #5
                  Depends on the site. If the site is good & can retain, you'll make way more with recurring. ....problem is, it takes a few months to figure that out.

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                    • SomeCreep
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                      • Mar 2003
                      • 26118
                      #6
                      all depends

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                        • Libertine
                          sex dwarf
                          • May 2002
                          • 17860
                          #7
                          I like partnerships. Since I always pre-check sites I'm gonna promote, and only promote high quality sites, average income per signup for me is a lot more than any per-signup program pays
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                            • cath
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 268
                              #8
                              I agree with those above who recommend a mix of per-signup and recurring ... the only caveat I'd add is that you should make sure in particular that your recurring sponsors are reputable, since you will be relying on their staying in business over the long haul.
                              ...

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                                • SinEmpire
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Nov 2001
                                  • 9813
                                  #9
                                  Just remember... money is money is money...

                                  In theory what is supposed to happen is PPS factors the payout by assuming the risk and gives you all your money up front. Recurring pays you the same or perhaps a little more over a longer period of time.

                                  In theory PPS would be your best bet if being shaved wasn't a concern. I'm not saying that all programs shave... but what I am saying is that there isn't any reason for a rev-share program to shave because it is risk adverse while theoretically a PPS site is risky which would tempt a program owner to shave. And don't kid yourself, there are huge affiliate programs that rely on shaving to be profitable.

                                  In the end... you need to make a decision by evaluating what you're depositing. However, I recommend that all affiliates get to know their sponsors, make character judgements and ultimately send traffic to the people that they like and trust.

                                  Cheers,

                                  Brad
                                  President at MojoHost | brad at mojohost dot com | Skype MojoHostBrad
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                                    • kenny
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Mar 2002
                                      • 7245
                                      #10
                                      In the long run partnership works out better I think.

                                      pps you may get more right away. But some of those partnership signups can bring you $250 over a period of time.
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                                        • laura
                                          Registered User
                                          • May 2002
                                          • 945
                                          #11
                                          i am not trying to threadjack, but a lot of very good points were made in this thread the other day


                                          http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...0&pagenumber=1


                                          lightspeed had some great stuff to say

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                                            • Zebra
                                              Banned from Kimmy's couch
                                              • Oct 2001
                                              • 5091
                                              #12
                                              What do you think is better?
                                              Black or White?
                                              Chocolate or Vanilla?
                                              Even or Odd?
                                              Up or Down?

                                              It depends on the situation and one answer does not fit every question.
                                              Old School

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                                                • kenny
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                  • 7245
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by laura
                                                  i am not trying to threadjack, but a lot of very good points were made in this thread the other day


                                                  http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...0&pagenumber=1


                                                  lightspeed had some great stuff to say
                                                  Lightspeed is one of the better partnership programs. Over a period of time a partnership program like LS will exceed a pps program income wise. IMHO
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                                                    • beemk
                                                      CLICK HERE
                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                      • 20829
                                                      #14
                                                      i think revshare if the program is good and can keep the members. i've promoted some revshare that in the long run, only generated between 10 and 20 dollars for a signup on average.
                                                      I host with Vacares

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                                                        • Ray@TastyDollars
                                                          www.TastyDollars.com
                                                          • May 2002
                                                          • 6797
                                                          #15
                                                          Per sign up rocks for the first 1-2 weeks. They they see your bringing to many sign ups so they start to shave you. How do you know? Easy..week 1 and 2 you'll do 1:100 to 1:300, bringing in 5-10 sales a day, depending on how much TGP traffic you got. After that period you'll see your ratios gradully rise to 1:500 then 1:1000. Thats when you should change sponsor and go with recurring.

                                                          Or maybe its just me

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                                                            • kenny
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                              • 7245
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Ray
                                                              Per sign up rocks for the first 1-2 weeks. They they see your bringing to many sign ups so they start to shave you. How do you know? Easy..week 1 and 2 you'll do 1:100 to 1:300, bringing in 5-10 sales a day, depending on how much TGP traffic you got. After that period you'll see your ratios gradully rise to 1:500 then 1:1000. Thats when you should change sponsor and go with recurring.

                                                              Or maybe its just me

                                                              Oh no.. I have pps programs that bring those ratios a year after I joined. For example there is a site converting 1:150 with TGP traffic at the rate of $35 pps in my line up. Has been for 3 months.

                                                              partnership is something I notice several months after I start pushing them. People with more traffic can probably tell alot sooner.

                                                              Dealing internet porn is like my constructive hobby.
                                                              Last edited by kenny; 09-27-2003, 08:37 PM.
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                                                                • Ic3m4nZ
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Aug 2003
                                                                  • 6285
                                                                  #17
                                                                  If you are on a sponsor that have sites that update the content at least 2 times per month take partnership so you'll have more $$ with recurring ..

                                                                  and if they never update and their sites sucks then take per signup..

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                                                                    • spooky181
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                      • 2951
                                                                      #18
                                                                      I know with the extreme uniqueness of my site, plus the plentifull amount of content, that my affiliates are better off with partnership. My site has only been going for a year but already I have many members that have been with me for the whole time. if the site you are promoting has a niche that is not saturated and has plenty of content then go for partnership, you will make far more money in the long run.

                                                                      Spooky

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                                                                        • Matt_WildCash
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                                          • 1699
                                                                          #19
                                                                          If you have a unique site, updated everyday with a absolute KILLER members area you can make more money with Recurring. Recurring sucks for sites with small members area or lack of updates and memberships that cost $40 just don't recur like $24.95 memberships.

                                                                          Per signups can be good, but really a lot shave to stay in business. The big boys sites probably recur at about 1/10 per signup a month, stay away from big boys recurring programs they have no idea on recurring, they base their business around per signup and so try to suck as much money out of a signup as possible as fast as possible.

                                                                          Try the New XMovies.com and make more $$$ with your Traffic

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                                                                            • Kevin2
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                              • 1429
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by JasonB
                                                                              Depends on the site. If the site is good & can retain, you'll make way more with recurring. ....problem is, it takes a few months to figure that out.
                                                                              Yup I agree

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                                                                                • GTS Mark
                                                                                  Vrume Mark
                                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                                  • 20912
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by SinEmpire
                                                                                  Just remember... money is money is money...

                                                                                  In theory what is supposed to happen is PPS factors the payout by assuming the risk and gives you all your money up front. Recurring pays you the same or perhaps a little more over a longer period of time.

                                                                                  In theory PPS would be your best bet if being shaved wasn't a concern. I'm not saying that all programs shave... but what I am saying is that there isn't any reason for a rev-share program to shave because it is risk adverse while theoretically a PPS site is risky which would tempt a program owner to shave. And don't kid yourself, there are huge affiliate programs that rely on shaving to be profitable.

                                                                                  In the end... you need to make a decision by evaluating what you're depositing. However, I recommend that all affiliates get to know their sponsors, make character judgements and ultimately send traffic to the people that they like and trust.

                                                                                  Cheers,

                                                                                  Brad
                                                                                  Excellent response

                                                                                  DH

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                                                                                    • Resolute
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                                      • 1143
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      As our members stick like glue !! because we have regular updates, extensive members content, great customer service but most of all - 100% Original Content !!

                                                                                      We have found the best model to be partnership !

                                                                                      The only things we shave..... are our boys
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                                                                                        • berg.the.red
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                                                          • 596
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          after taking it in the shorts from GloBIll and a few comments from some program owners here: per sign up. take the money and run. somebody who pays weekly. and no minimum payout is even better. while recurring is nice in some instances, i also know how much i HAVEN'T made on partner programs because the surfer didn't convert to a recurring. if i had gone per sign up --i would have had that thirty-something per surfer ...
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