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  • Libertine
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    • May 2002
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    #51
    I'm not a vegetarian, but I have been for several years. All the stuff about humans needing meat is bullshit. You can very easily replace all essentials with milk, eggs, cheese and nuts. (no, milk is not bad for you, despite what the peta-pussies say)

    Benefits of being a vegetarian? You'll lose 10-20 pounds, have more energy, and have a better complexion. The main disadvantage is that if you're a vegetarian, building lots of muscle is very hard. Then again, you probably aren't a bodybuilder, right?

    What you should NOT do is become a vegan (no milk/eggs/cheese either). It is close to impossible to create a healthy vegan diet.
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    • jollyperv
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      • Nov 2001
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      #52
      Don't do it....you'll get fat, while depleting your body of certain key nutrients...just because Albert Einstein said it was cool doesn't make it right.

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      • Zoe_Zoebaboe
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        #53
        Originally posted by baddog


        come on Zoe, you are smarter than that. Certainly you know that the people making the film to show how animals are treated inhumanely are only going to edit it to try and prove their point.

        I bet if I was given 30 minutes with a video cam, I could make it look like you were madly in love with me

        Haha, cute.

        As I said, im not doing this in an act to "Save the Animals", though I have my own opinions about it.

        I have an aunt that works for PETA, and you read a lot of stuff. Weird stuff, man.
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        • freeadultcontent
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          #54
          Originally posted by Zoe_Zoebaboe



          Ok, im doing this for myself. First of all, you dont need to eat mean to stay healthy. Milk isnt good for you either. Now a days everything is bacially genetically encanced and processed, so I dont see why eating a more natural diet is bad.
          Like I said its your choice, do what you wish and best of luck with your choices.

          Not gunna touch the milk comment. Will let you know that I eat primarly un-enhanced foods. Hormone, anti-biotic free, naturally fed animals and animal products. Most processing it undergoes is pasturization. It is an option that is available and easy to come by.

          Nothing wrong with a more natural diet, hell if I cared more about other people I would wish more people did go on a more natural diet. Natural does mean omnivore though and not herbivore. Cutting out chemicals, steroids, anti-biotics, enhanced feeds, man made ingrediants, sure that is more natural.

          Cutting out meats and dairy, while still chomping down on geneticly enhanced veggies, many of which are drenched in chemical fertalizers, pesticides, or imported from parts unknown does not translate into more natural though.

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          • Zoe_Zoebaboe
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            #55
            Originally posted by punkworld
            I'm not a vegetarian, but I have been for several years. All the stuff about humans needing meat is bullshit. You can very easily replace all essentials with milk, eggs, cheese and nuts. (no, milk is not bad for you, despite what the peta-pussies say)


            What you should NOT do is become a vegan (no milk/eggs/cheese either). It is close to impossible to create a healthy vegan diet.
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            • Sly_RJ
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              • Feb 2002
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              #56
              Zoe is going veggie? Better eat enough so you keep that sexy body!

              I can't eat/drink dairy products and it drives me crazy. Haven't had the pleasure of eating ice cream in 7 years. I've tried the little pills you can take before eating dairy, but they didn't help at all. What's strange is I've had tests done and the results said I'm fine, yet eating dairy products still makes me sick. I can handle small amounts of cheese though as long as it's mixed in with something. Example: pizza.
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              • Zoe_Zoebaboe
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                #57
                Originally posted by freeadultcontent


                Like I said its your choice, do what you wish and best of luck with your choices.


                Cutting out meats and dairy, while still chomping down on geneticly enhanced veggies, many of which are drenched in chemical fertalizers, pesticides, or imported from parts unknown does not translate into more natural though.

                Thank you for your imput, I do appreciate it. Theres no harm in trying for myself, you know?

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                • Zoe_Zoebaboe
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Sly_RJ
                  Zoe is going veggie? Better eat enough so you keep that sexy body!

                  I can't eat/drink dairy products and it drives me crazy. Haven't had the pleasure of eating ice cream in 7 years. I've tried the little pills you can take before eating dairy, but they didn't help at all. What's strange is I've had tests done and the results said I'm fine, yet eating dairy products still makes me sick. I can handle small amounts of cheese though as long as it's mixed in with something. Example: pizza.
                  haha, thanks :P


                  Have you tried other types of milk? Goat milk?
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                  • Katlicious72
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Sly_RJ
                    Zoe is going veggie? Better eat enough so you keep that sexy body!

                    I can't eat/drink dairy products and it drives me crazy. Haven't had the pleasure of eating ice cream in 7 years. I've tried the little pills you can take before eating dairy, but they didn't help at all. What's strange is I've had tests done and the results said I'm fine, yet eating dairy products still makes me sick. I can handle small amounts of cheese though as long as it's mixed in with something. Example: pizza.
                    Yeah the first time I ate icecream and had hershey's squirts in like 10 min after eating, I knew there was a problem
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                    • Sly_RJ
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by punkworld


                      What you should NOT do is become a vegan (no milk/eggs/cheese either). It is close to impossible to create a healthy vegan diet.
                      Word of advice, NEVER go to dinner with a vegan. It will be the most horrible dinner you've ever experienced. They can't eat anything, so you get to watch the waiter run back and forth between your table and the kitchen. Super!
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                      • Zoe_Zoebaboe
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                        #61
                        Originally posted by Sly_RJ

                        Word of advice, NEVER go to dinner with a vegan. It will be the most horrible dinner you've ever experienced. They can't eat anything, so you get to watch the waiter run back and forth between your table and the kitchen. Super!

                        Yeah, I think Vegan is going a bit too far.
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                        • Sly_RJ
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                          #62
                          Originally posted by Zoe_Zoebaboe


                          haha, thanks :P


                          Have you tried other types of milk? Goat milk?
                          Been thinking about soy, I'm skeptical of the taste though, haha. Maybe I'll try soon. I don't miss milk at all, I'm a soda junkie. But heavy cheese meals and ice cream I do miss.
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                          • Libertine
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                            • May 2002
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                            #63
                            Originally posted by Zoe_Zoebaboe


                            http://www.notmilk.com/
                            It's on the internet so it must be true!
                            I would have thought you were smarter than that...
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                            • Zoe_Zoebaboe
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                              #64
                              Originally posted by Sly_RJ

                              Been thinking about soy, I'm skeptical of the taste though, haha. Maybe I'll try soon. I don't miss milk at all, I'm a soda junkie. But heavy cheese meals and ice cream I do miss.
                              Chocolate soy rocks! Strawberry too :D
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                              • jollyperv
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                                #65
                                Originally posted by punkworld


                                It's on the internet so it must be true!
                                I would have thought you were smarter than that...
                                Yup, that crap on that site has got to be some of the most ridiculous shit I've ever read.

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                                • Zoe_Zoebaboe
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                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by punkworld


                                  It's on the internet so it must be true!
                                  I would have thought you were smarter than that...
                                  its not just that, come on.

                                  Theres a lot of people out there *myself included* where milk is painful to drink. I dont see any problems drinking an alternative, or taking supplements to substitute.
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                                  • freeadultcontent
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                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by Zoe_Zoebaboe



                                    Thank you for your imput, I do appreciate it. Theres no harm in trying for myself, you know?

                                    Yup, try. You said advice so it seemed like good place for opinions.

                                    By the way I am not a meat with every meal or every day person. I take food pretty seriously, its one of my few passions in life.

                                    I would look to a lowering intake personally, removing fish as a last resort. For ideas and recipies, just look to certain asian, and regional indian cookbooks for inspiration.

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                                    • freeadultcontent
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                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by Sly_RJ

                                      Been thinking about soy, I'm skeptical of the taste though, haha. Maybe I'll try soon. I don't miss milk at all, I'm a soda junkie. But heavy cheese meals and ice cream I do miss.
                                      Sly try a few non cow cheeses and see if it still causes problems.

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                                      • baddog
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                                        • Apr 2001
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                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by Zoe_Zoebaboe


                                        No worries, its cool.

                                        Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

                                        At the next Internext, if you guys see me seriously ill, you can laugh in my face and say " I told you so!"

                                        Deal?
                                        trust me, the last thing I would want to do is see or hear that you were seriously ill, for any reason, and I for one would never say "I told you so."

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                                        • Katlicious72
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                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by freeadultcontent


                                          Sly try a few non cow cheeses and see if it still causes problems.
                                          I like soycheese. My fave thing to do with soycheese is make a grilled soycheese. Yummy
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                                          • baddog
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                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by Zoe_Zoebaboe



                                            Haha, cute.

                                            As I said, im not doing this in an act to "Save the Animals", though I have my own opinions about it.

                                            I have an aunt that works for PETA, and you read a lot of stuff. Weird stuff, man.
                                            PETA - people eating tiny animals?

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                                            • Katlicious72
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                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by baddog


                                              PETA - people eating tiny animals?
                                              Baddog dayummmm
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                                              • baddog
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                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by Katlicious72


                                                Yeah the first time I ate icecream and had hershey's squirts in like 10 min after eating, I knew there was a problem
                                                pics?

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                                                • NetRodent
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                                                  #74
                                                  Are you going to stop using leather products as well?
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                                                  • Libertine
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                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by Zoe_Zoebaboe


                                                    its not just that, come on.

                                                    Theres a lot of people out there *myself included* where milk is painful to drink. I dont see any problems drinking an alternative, or taking supplements to substitute.
                                                    Lactose-intolerant people should indeed not drink milk, and if you're not of western european descent it probably isn't too good an idea to drink it either.

                                                    However, milk in itself doesn't have to be bad. It provides many of the nutrients you can also find in meat, and thus it can be a great replacement. Also, if you're a bodybuilder, it's a great mass-building food

                                                    The problem with supplements is that the body simply isn't as good at absorbing them as it is at absorbing vitamins and minerals contained in actual food. While supplements can help, they can't really replace.
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                                                    • baddog
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                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by Sly_RJ

                                                      Word of advice, NEVER go to dinner with a vegan. It will be the most horrible dinner you've ever experienced. They can't eat anything, so you get to watch the waiter run back and forth between your table and the kitchen. Super!
                                                      never could understand vegans that own pets, and how they won't eat a hamburger, but have no problem poking out the eyes of a potato, or splitting open a head of lettuce

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                                                      • Zoe_Zoebaboe
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                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by NetRodent
                                                        Are you going to stop using leather products as well?

                                                        haha!
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                                                        • Katlicious72
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                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by baddog


                                                          pics?
                                                          Oh lord baddog cmon now man! That's just nasty
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                                                          • Zoe_Zoebaboe
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                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by punkworld


                                                            Lactose-intolerant people should indeed not drink milk, and if you're not of western european descent it probably isn't too good an idea to drink it either.

                                                            However, milk in itself doesn't have to be bad. It provides many of the nutrients you can also find in meat, and thus it can be a great replacement. Also, if you're a bodybuilder, it's a great mass-building food

                                                            The problem with supplements is that the body simply isn't as good at absorbing them as it is at absorbing vitamins and minerals contained in actual food. While supplements can help, they can't really replace.

                                                            Thanks for the imput. Though im not fond of cow milk, goats milk is tolerable

                                                            Maybe its because I own them :D
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                                                            • baddog
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                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by Katlicious72


                                                              Oh lord baddog cmon now man! That's just nasty
                                                              hey, you were the one that brought in the visual

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                                                              • Sly_RJ
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                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by punkworld



                                                                The problem with supplements is that the body simply isn't as good at absorbing them as it is at absorbing vitamins and minerals contained in actual food. While supplements can help, they can't really replace.
                                                                So very true. The body needs those vitamins along with other vitamins, etc to work properly. A lot of people think a little pill is always the answer.
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                                                                • freeadultcontent
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                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by Katlicious72


                                                                  I like soycheese. My fave thing to do with soycheese is make a grilled soycheese. Yummy
                                                                  I was meaning something more along the lines of goats milk cheese, yak, buffallo ect.

                                                                  Curious since we hit on more natural and all.

                                                                  Real mozzarella cheese ingrediants: buffallo milk, cheese culture (left over cheese water), rennet, salt, water.

                                                                  Soy mozzarella cheese (tofutti brand): water, partially hydrogenated soybean oil, tofu, soy protein, carrageenan, maltodextrin, vinegar, cornstarch, calcium phosphate, potato flakes, salt, potassium phosphate, adipic acid, soy lecithin, natural flavors, natural colors.

                                                                  Umm am I missing something?
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                                                                  • smsvid
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                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by Zoe_Zoebaboe
                                                                    Hey guys, ive decided to go Vegetarian, at least till Thanksgiving. It'll give me 2 months to try it out, and if I can work with it, theres plenty of good reasons to become one.

                                                                    Does anyone know of any good recipies/stores to get vegetarian food?

                                                                    Thanks for any imput
                                                                    Yes, i know many good websites.
                                                                    My girlfriend is a vegetarian. Also, i am a vegan.

                                                                    I dont eat anything from animals at all, for example, milk.

                                                                    Eat lots of fruit, you can never get to much of that.
                                                                    Also remember to eat many meals aday.

                                                                    That will also help if you have a weightproblem!
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                                                                    • sweet7
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                                                                      #84
                                                                      Steak is still a vegetable right?

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                                                                      • triumph
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                                                                        #85
                                                                        suck a dick

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                                                                        • NetRodent
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                                                                          #86
                                                                          Originally posted by NetRodent
                                                                          Are you going to stop using leather products as well?
                                                                          Originally posted by Zoe_Zoebaboe

                                                                          haha!
                                                                          My question wasn't intended as a joke. You mentioned that one of the reasons you were going vegitarian was because of the animal cruelty issues. A lot of the vegitarians I know still wear leather shoes, belts and jackets. The leather industry is just as cruel as the food industry.
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                                                                          • freeadultcontent
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                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by sweet7
                                                                            Steak is still a vegetable right?

                                                                            Technically it is processed grain

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                                                                            • GigaChris
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                                                                              #88
                                                                              Dont do it meat is good!
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                                                                              • Katlicious72
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                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by freeadultcontent


                                                                                I was meaning something more along the lines of goats milk cheese, yak, buffallo ect.

                                                                                Curious since we hit on more natural and all.

                                                                                Real mozzarella cheese ingrediants: buffallo milk, cheese culture (left over cheese water), rennet, salt, water.

                                                                                Soy mozzarella cheese (tofutti brand): water, partially hydrogenated soybean oil, tofu, soy protein, carrageenan, maltodextrin, vinegar, cornstarch, calcium phosphate, potato flakes, salt, potassium phosphate, adipic acid, soy lecithin, natural flavors, natural colors.

                                                                                Umm am I missing something?
                                                                                Another visual for y'all. If I was to eat a bunch of what you just mentioned (goat cheese) I'd fart so much I'd boost myself a few hundred yards. So no cant' do it.
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                                                                                • Zoe_Zoebaboe
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                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by NetRodent


                                                                                  My question wasn't intended as a joke. You mentioned that one of the reasons you were going vegitarian was because of the animal cruelty issues. A lot of the vegitarians I know still wear leather shoes, belts and jackets. The leather industry is just as cruel as the food industry.
                                                                                  Ok, my reference to that wasnt in activism, merely saying that there will be one less cow/chicken/fish dead because I ate it.

                                                                                  I dont wear leather, and all my toys are animal-free. :D
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                                                                                  • rooster
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                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    alot of vegetarians are like some mac users who think they are on some higher level of consciousness.


                                                                                    I look at things in a simple way.

                                                                                    Breakfast: a healty ceral and some juice
                                                                                    Lunch: lean cold cuts on whole wheat bread and some carrots
                                                                                    Dinner: boneless, skinless chicken breast and some vegetables

                                                                                    cut out: fast food, soda, excessive amounts of sweets, burgers, pizza, fries, chip.

                                                                                    drink alot of water

                                                                                    get hour of cardio a day


                                                                                    there, i just solved millions of peoples weight problems
                                                                                    Ever notice that pretty much everything added to the Constitution after the original was a mistake.

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                                                                                    • Katlicious72
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                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Originally posted by triumph
                                                                                      suck a dick
                                                                                      Mmmmm gladly
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                                                                                      • Zoe_Zoebaboe
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                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Originally posted by Katlicious72


                                                                                        Another visual for y'all. If I was to eat a bunch of what you just mentioned (goat cheese) I'd fart so much I'd boost myself a few hundred yards. So no cant' do it.
                                                                                        Haha, I just fell out of my chair.

                                                                                        Thanks, I needed that :P
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                                                                                        • Katlicious72
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                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Originally posted by Zoe_Zoebaboe


                                                                                          Haha, I just fell out of my chair.

                                                                                          Thanks, I needed that :P
                                                                                          No problem heheheh
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                                                                                          • Rinaldo
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                                                                                            Zoe why cut out fish...? I can see the Unethical treatment of animals part ... I personally could care less about them... but I see how somepeople may... but FiSH? how is a fish treated unethically? Their fish... I dont get it... Also my sister was so repulsed that my father and I used to hunt deer and rabbit and what else there was... that she became a vegetarian... she was sick probably 15times that summer... It will fuk with your system so much... good luck withit

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                                                                                            • Zoe_Zoebaboe
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                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Originally posted by Rinaldo
                                                                                              Zoe why cut out fish...? I can see the Unethical treatment of animals part ... I personally could care less about them... but I see how somepeople may... but FiSH? how is a fish treated unethically? Their fish... I dont get it... Also my sister was so repulsed that my father and I used to hunt deer and rabbit and what else there was... that she became a vegetarian... she was sick probably 15times that summer... It will fuk with your system so much... good luck withit
                                                                                              As I said, im gonna try it out.
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                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Originally posted by Zoe_Zoebaboe
                                                                                                Hey guys, ive decided to go Vegetarian, at least till Thanksgiving. It'll give me 2 months to try it out, and if I can work with it, theres plenty of good reasons to become one.

                                                                                                Does anyone know of any good recipies/stores to get vegetarian food?

                                                                                                Thanks for any imput
                                                                                                good reasons?

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                                                                                                • baddog
                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                                                                  • 107089

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Rinaldo
                                                                                                  Zoe why cut out fish...?
                                                                                                  I actually saw an interview with some vegetarian boy scout that was campaigning on behalf of fish, saying they suufered great pain being caught with sharp hooks and then suffocating when taken out of water.

                                                                                                  some parents children

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                                                                                                  • rip raster
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Apr 2001
                                                                                                    • 2851

                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    Go to the butcher and get yourself a nice big fat juicy steak and stop talking all this nonsence.



                                                                                                    Rip

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                                                                                                    • Underlive
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                                                      • 216

                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      Advice : Listen '' Infected Mushroom - Converting Vegetarians - 11 - Converting ''

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