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  • SlickCash Sarah
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2004
    • 2055

    #51
    Originally posted by Azure Sales
    Come on AaronM -

    KK, me, Kathi, Peaches, CJ, Sloan, Faye, Lee, Jenna, Aly, Tina, Sarah, Carol, Mary, Karen etc

    The list marches on most of us have been in the business for over 5 years.... some of us for 10 years + We have been doing business not just being eye candy from the beginning. Are you saying that you have never done a successful business deal with any one of us?


    KK - epassporte before that CCbill
    Kathi - National Net
    Peaches - Weg and WTS
    Faye - Cybernet Expo
    Aly - Python
    Tina - Video Secrets

    Enough of a resume?
    Lets talk reality......
    Its very true babe. We are women seirous about sales..not just eye candy. Tell these people who are saying "ban women" to F*** off. They obviosly have no idea what they are talking about.

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    • emmanuelle
      Confirmed User
      • Mar 2003
      • 3662

      #52
      Originally posted by AaronM


      Most programs hire attractive females over less attractive ones. This is done for a reason.

      That's reality for you.

      AaronM it saddens me to think that you would use a woman's attractiveness against her.
      Yeah, some programs do hire women just for the eye candy factor, but who is responsible for that? The man that hired her, that's who- he thinks so little of his customers that he believes their business practices can be swayed by a pair of tits. Shame!

      There are plenty of hardworking & successful women in this industry, who manage to succeed regardless of their aesthetic 'value'. Not all of the women in the business work for others either. Some of us actually do the hiring

      As one of these successful women, I have no time for bimbos, nor the people who try to thrust them upon me. Don't you guys DARE try to lump all women in this industry together. We work harder, smarter, with more ethics and less bullshit.
      Last edited by emmanuelle; 05-12-2004, 08:38 AM.

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      • Peaches
        Old broad
        • Oct 2002
        • 13933

        #53
        Originally posted by tony404
        Thank you when you work for a single owner company everyone job at the end of the day is selling .
        LOL, true

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        • tony299
          lurker
          • Aug 2002
          • 57021

          #54
          Originally posted by Azure Sales
          Are you referring to my game face or the point when I was done dealing with the wanna be's
          Your game face is to look miserable. What sales books did you read ? lol I wanted to introduce ourselves but was afraid you would bite my head off. I learned in business you treat everyone nice because today's nobody is tomorrow's somebody.

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          • sherie
            Confirmed User
            • Feb 2002
            • 7020

            #55
            Originally posted by emmanuelle
            AaronM it saddens me to think that you would use a woman's attractiveness against her.
            Yeah, some programs do hire women just for the eye candy factor, but who is responsible for that? The man that hired her, that's who- he thinks so little of his customers that he believes their business practices can be swayed by a pair of tits. Shame!

            There are plenty of hardworking & successful women in this industry, who manage to succeed regardless of their aesthetic 'value'. Not all of the women in the business work for others either. Some of us actually do the hiring

            As one of these successful women, I have no time for bimbos, nor the people who try to thrust them upon me. Don't you guys DARE try to lump all women in this industry together. We work harder, smarter, with more ethics and less bullshit.
            Very well said. (although, I don't think he meant to group all of us together)

            I also was looking for you on my ICQ but you have disappeared. We are doing another party this summer and seeing how the Montreal show is postponed we will be doing it again in Toronto =) We enjoyed having you the last time and would like to have you again!
            Last edited by sherie; 05-12-2004, 08:41 AM.
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            • AAnnAArchy
              Registered User
              • Aug 2002
              • 53

              #56
              Maybe the first guy who mentioned "no girls" was talking about the girls hired to climb all over each other and sign autographs.

              My complaint about Internext is that I'm tired of companies promoting programs that aren't even ready. When I get the information and I'm ready to promote, I want the program to actually exist. I live in Las Vegas, so when I find something at the convention that I like, I want to be able to drive back home and work on it that day. I don't go the parties, as I have no desire to get drunk with anyone. This is all about business for me.

              Signed,

              A Girl

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              • emmanuelle
                Confirmed User
                • Mar 2003
                • 3662

                #57
                Sure- I'd love to sponsor again too

                64614011


                see boys- sometimes the girls control the checkbook!

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                • AaronM
                  GFY Royality ;)
                  • Oct 2001
                  • 46923

                  #58
                  Originally posted by Azure Sales
                  Come on AaronM -

                  KK, me, Kathi, Peaches, CJ, Sloan, Faye, Lee, Jenna, Aly, Tina, Sarah, Carol, Mary, Karen etc

                  The list marches on most of us have been in the business for over 5 years.... some of us for 10 years + We have been doing business not just being eye candy from the beginning. Are you saying that you have never done a successful business deal with any one of us?


                  KK - epassporte before that CCbill
                  Kathi - National Net
                  Peaches - Weg and WTS
                  Faye - Cybernet Expo
                  Aly - Python
                  Tina - Video Secrets

                  Enough of a resume?
                  Lets talk reality......

                  People are shallow. You have been in this business for 5 years and I don't have a fucking clue who you are so perhaps I am just as shallow as the next guy. It's human nature for the attractive people's names and faces to stick with you. I may know you but I don't know you by the screen name you are posting under.

                  If people do not have their looks to go by then they must rely on other traits.

                  7 of the 15 people on that list I can not match a face and/or company to their names.

                  Politically right or wrong...It is fact.

                  I just met Sarah from Slickcash and Erin from AEBN for the first time. Both of them are cute and I will not soon forget them.

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                  • sherie
                    Confirmed User
                    • Feb 2002
                    • 7020

                    #59
                    Originally posted by emmanuelle
                    Sure- I'd love to sponsor again too

                    64614011


                    see boys- sometimes the girls control the checkbook!
                    Wonderful, it's a date. I had you in my ICQ already under your ICQ user name. ;)
                    AIM sherierocks
                    ICQ 127-296-286
                    Skype traffichor

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                    • AaronM
                      GFY Royality ;)
                      • Oct 2001
                      • 46923

                      #60
                      Originally posted by emmanuelle
                      AaronM it saddens me to think that you would use a woman's attractiveness against her.
                      How dare you suggest that I am doing any such thing.

                      If you can not accept reality for what it is then go ahead and pull the wool a bit further over your eyes.

                      I NEVER said that I agree with these practices...I simply said that these things are done.

                      I could post ICQ logs all day long from various companies who have come to me and asked if I knew of any good looking ladies who were looking for rep jobs. I happen to have a very good friend who has been passed up because her look is more alternative than the next.

                      Don't come into this thread and judge me for posting reality. I am short, fat, bald, and ugly but I still know how to market myself and my businesses. I know reality.

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                      • emmanuelle
                        Confirmed User
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 3662

                        #61
                        Originally posted by sherie
                        Wonderful, it's a date. I had you in my ICQ already under your ICQ user name. ;)

                        End of June would be perfect if you're asking. I'm coming down to shoot Prideweek anyway.

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                        • emmanuelle
                          Confirmed User
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 3662

                          #62
                          Originally posted by AaronM

                          I NEVER said that I agree with these practices...I simply said that these things are done.

                          My post wasnt entirely directed specifically at you- I apologize for that.

                          It really is frustrating to constantly be presumed to be an airhead, or worse- content. I cant tell you how many of the 'professional' male webmasters ask for pics within minutes of an icq introduction. We must constantly double check everything that we do & say, lest our credibility be undermined by a skirt that's a little too short.

                          Bimbos SHOULD be banned from the shows, not because they are stupid, but because they make the men stupid. As is the essence of this business, men are easily manipulated.

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                          • Joesho
                            want to get in shape
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 12329

                            #63
                            I met several good people at this show, and I think that these smaller shows do a decent job of WEEDing out the bullshit. like you say, going to shows is not cheap, and if it is done solely as an entertainment pourpous and that is the only desired goal . then by attending these shows you are wasting time and money (both yours, and the sponsors, and the person whom you may be talking with that is there to do some biz)

                            with that said, I agree that shows do have some people there that could care less about doing any business at all. they are just there for the free booze, and hoping to see some upskirts, that they can take pics of to make them selves look bigger than they really are. Hoewever most of these people are discovered in time anyway.
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                            • kmanrox
                              aka K-Man
                              • Oct 2001
                              • 29295

                              #64
                              I've been going to these things since before 99% of you even know the adult internet existed. With that said my outlook on any adult webmaster gathering is to go there, party like a motherfucker, be cool to people, feel out other people (see if they are cool, skeezy, bullshitters, shittalkers, etc)...


                              WHEN YOU GET BACK FROM THE CONVENTION you will know who is cool to do biz with and who you think are schmucks... You will usually know this after looking someone in the eye, or seeing their true colors.

                              It's all about AFTER the convention... Nobody wants to solidify big deals when they're all coked up in a stripclub, wait till they're back at home in work mode. Leave a good impression with them and they'll remember who you are.
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                              • Xenophage
                                Registered User
                                • Oct 2001
                                • 12122

                                #65
                                Originally posted by SquirtingCarly
                                You did tell me that and I appreciated you being straight up.......
                                But, I was introducing myself and you cut me off before I had a chance to ask about your site and maybe using it in my members area.
                                Yes I am sorry I was a bit of an ass !
                                I appologize for my brevity, and will strive to be more open to meeting new people.

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                                • CuriousToyBoy2
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Apr 2004
                                  • 707

                                  #66
                                  Dayum.

                                  This thread sure took a different path from where it started..



                                  I just read the whole thing..

                                  Can someone pass me a valium.

                                  I have a headache...

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                                  • Angie
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Sep 2002
                                    • 460

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by emmanuelle
                                    It really is frustrating to constantly be presumed to be an airhead, or worse- content. I cant tell you how many of the 'professional' male webmasters ask for pics within minutes of an icq introduction. We must constantly double check everything that we do & say, lest our credibility be undermined by a skirt that's a little too short.

                                    Bimbos SHOULD be banned from the shows, not because they are stupid, but because they make the men stupid. As is the essence of this business, men are easily manipulated.
                                    Amen

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                                    • baddog
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Apr 2001
                                      • 107089

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by tony404
                                      What billing companiies are you talking about? What large hosting companies are you talking about? I am curious
                                      me too

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                                      • Xenophage
                                        Registered User
                                        • Oct 2001
                                        • 12122

                                        #69
                                        quote:
                                        --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                        Originally posted by SquirtingCarly
                                        You did tell me that and I appreciated you being straight up.......
                                        But, I was introducing myself and you cut me off before I had a chance to ask about your site and maybe using it in my members area.
                                        --------------------------------------------------------------------------------


                                        Also when I told ya I was not interested you did not continue to push and push and ask for traffic and so forth. The one thing that bumms me out more than anythign at shows is people who come up to you try to sell ya something and you say no does not work for me then they say send me traffic. And i say give me money and they look at you like your nuts. A lot of people think you should give them free traffic to help them get started in the BIZ.

                                        I thank you for not being one of those pushy people
                                        And now I am gonna go look at your site and see if we can do some biz together.

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                                        • homegrownmof
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Oct 2002
                                          • 408

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by Azure Sales
                                          Fuck off Hydro

                                          Maybe you don't pay attention but women run this industry....
                                          Almost every major affiliate program is run by women, same for billing companies, hosting companies, etc.


                                          Reality is only restrained by preception

                                          You must still be drunk and stoned from the Atlanta event.

                                          You think those women "run" those companies?

                                          Nothing against the women in this industry but your perception of who really runs the large affiliate programs, hosting cos, billing co.s is far from reality.
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                                          • baddog
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Apr 2001
                                            • 107089

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by Azure Sales
                                            Come on AaronM -

                                            KK, me, Kathi, Peaches, CJ, Sloan, Faye, Lee, Jenna, Aly, Tina, Sarah, Carol, Mary, Karen etc

                                            The list marches on most of us have been in the business for over 5 years.... some of us for 10 years + We have been doing business not just being eye candy from the beginning. Are you saying that you have never done a successful business deal with any one of us?


                                            KK - epassporte before that CCbill
                                            Kathi - National Net
                                            Peaches - Weg and WTS
                                            Faye - Cybernet Expo
                                            Aly - Python
                                            Tina - Video Secrets

                                            Enough of a resume?
                                            Lets talk reality......
                                            and that means they "run the company?" Work for, and run are two different things

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                                            • sherie
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Feb 2002
                                              • 7020

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by emmanuelle
                                              End of June would be perfect if you're asking. I'm coming down to shoot Prideweek anyway.
                                              Well we can get together that week as well. However, I was thinking along the lines of the 10th weekend, the same weekend the show was scheduled for as there are plenty of people still interested in coming for that weekend =)
                                              AIM sherierocks
                                              ICQ 127-296-286
                                              Skype traffichor

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                                              • Azure Sex Kitten
                                                Registered User
                                                • Apr 2004
                                                • 26

                                                #73
                                                Hi gang~

                                                After reading the rhetoric here about women running vs. owning, blah blah blah, how about we stop takeing this so seriously. We look at SEX and peddle SEX all day...helllllllloooooooooo..male female, happy, sad, intimidated, not intimidated...blah blah blah...
                                                Society is what it is and accpeting the business practices of the boys club needs to be done. We can be beautiful and freindly, and actually get work done. Aaron, i extend my hand and introduce myself...Jodi "sex Kitten" from Azure....nice to meet you and now I will make sure at the next event I will actually have a conversation/drink/etc.....

                                                :::peace::::

                                                Cant we all just get along?????
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                                                • tony299
                                                  lurker
                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                  • 57021

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by Azure Sex Kitten
                                                  Hi gang~

                                                  After reading the rhetoric here about women running vs. owning, blah blah blah, how about we stop takeing this so seriously. We look at SEX and peddle SEX all day...helllllllloooooooooo..male female, happy, sad, intimidated, not intimidated...blah blah blah...
                                                  Society is what it is and accpeting the business practices of the boys club needs to be done. We can be beautiful and freindly, and actually get work done. Aaron, i extend my hand and introduce myself...Jodi "sex Kitten" from Azure....nice to meet you and now I will make sure at the next event I will actually have a conversation/drink/etc.....

                                                  :::peace::::

                                                  Cant we all just get along?????
                                                  Thats funny when someone who works with you started the rhetoric. I wish we had met you but I was afraid of your coworker lol.

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                                                  • Techie Media
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                    • 3092

                                                    #75
                                                    Aaron, good thread you started bro. First let me say it was great seeing you again. You and I don't do biz together yet have no problems being friends, sharing knowledge and having good meals together without any of the fake lies and BS that goes on with many people like you stated in this thread. Anyway, I'll keep on reading, and you always know where to find me when and if you ever need me, (friends will always be there for friends).


                                                    sales [AT] techiemedia.com

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                                                    • tony299
                                                      lurker
                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                      • 57021

                                                      #76
                                                      I have been thinking , the way the business is set up encourages bs . People dont use their real names and dont want anyone to know them . I was talking to someone reccomended asking for id on everyone thru the door at conventions and they said alot of people wont like that , they would have to let people know who they really are. Until the business grows up like real names and phone numbers I think the bullshit will be the norm.

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